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And so the Season begins β€’ Sep 06, 2019 03:58 AM

Well to say I was surprised would be an under statement. - -For the 1st time in I can remember - -umm think we have a defense. - - Like Aaron said after the game the lady says well pretty defensive game saying Chicago gave Green Bay Fits - - like Aaron said Chicago's defense is going to give ALOT of teams trouble

Thing is Green Bay got 5 QB sacks and 11 QB hits - -and the huge Int - -Like Aaron said our offense will improve BUT we got a Defense he said. - - I think after watching - -YES we do have a Defense for a change - - just one game -- but I'll take the start , tough place to win against a pretty good football team

And so the Season begins β€’ Sep 05, 2019 11:39 PM

Wonder what happened to Eddie Lacy - -if he would of done a better job with his weight - - who knows - -lost track after he left GB - the guy would flat run you over and had speed. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

And so the Season begins β€’ Sep 05, 2019 09:48 PM

BShark said:

Go bears! ;)

Screw the Bears lol, - na they will probably win - they beter playing at home and with their D

New Hudy! β€’ Sep 05, 2019 09:47 PM

The New Strength Coach can't help the Kings with their on court miseries , that all falls on the Coaching staff - the X'S & O"s he can only help in his area - -I think we will be ok. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

And so the Season begins β€’ Sep 05, 2019 09:45 PM

Well it all starts tonight. - -My Packers vs Da Bears. Had to laugh my next door Neighbor to he had seen a deal that ESPN had done going over the Season and such how teams would do and such. - These idiots had Green Bay going 13-3 during the regular Season -and Going to the Super Bowl LOL

I Love my Packers BUT - -were not seeing it , what are these clowns seeing that we're not. - -Not Concerned about the offensive side with Aaron - - But the defense couldn't stop a runny nose - -well last year anyways - Didn't see squat out of 1st team offense or defense in preseason - -Aaron didn't take ONE snap. - we will see I guess

I have to question some of their moves - -- -not impressed by any means with Kizer but DAM moves letting Jordy go - -and now Let Clay go. I know this the Packers better get their head out their a - - because Aaron only has maybe 5 yrs-6 maybe left he will be done - they have no back up - -they best be getting somebody in and grooming him to be the next QB - -just crazy - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

2020 Recruiting β€’ Sep 05, 2019 07:07 PM

Can't say I care for the way this recruiting has played out now going into this 2nd year - -last minute scrambles and looking that way again this year - - can't land or having trouble closing on the upper crust - and Now we can't even get a visit from the middle of the pack players - -WTH. - - ( Got a feeling some other Coach's doing a good selling job with this NCAA Scandal BS - and possible violations ) either that OR someone on this staff isn't getting the job done on these kids - -either way this is beginning to suck - -and I do mean suck.

New Hudy! β€’ Sep 04, 2019 10:22 PM

Well , can't be all bad that's for sure - -Coming from the Kings - - - being the youngest in the NBA

2020 Recruiting β€’ Sep 04, 2019 02:35 PM

Welp , starting to look like Mady could end up at Michigan State - -# CB'S have been made SINCE his visit here and all 3 go to - - - -Michigan State

Man things have sure swayed the other way we use to have not nearly as much problem having to sweat out who we gonna be able to get - -Now looks like we have trouble even getting players ranked middle of the pack to come - -have to really work our ass off for that - -I DON'T GET IT

Coastal Carolina Chanticleers β€’ Sep 04, 2019 02:17 PM

stoptheflop said:

Jesse Newell has become overly critical of our football program since he started writing for the KC Star. Yes, Jesse it's really easy to write about flaws and mistakes in a struggling program. That's about the same level of journalism as standing on a Florida beach and reporting about the wind and waves. In a recent article Newell dissected and analyzed the two flawed offensive plays in the fourth quarter, all of which were obvious to everyone. Thanks for adding nothing to the discussion, Jesse. Oh yeah, Newell has KU losing to CC. We'll see, hack.

you can't fix stupid lol - - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

2020 Recruiting β€’ Sep 03, 2019 10:17 PM

starting to look like another odd year in getting involved or leading for recruits -were not leading for anyone at this point. - -Going to be another year where we scramble at the end?

time to give it up β€’ Sep 03, 2019 10:00 PM

time to give some love to our ladies Soccer. - -Showing that our School is more then a ONE horse Pony

They are 4-0-0 - -started the Season unranked , then jumped to 18 th in the Polls and now have jumped up to # 11 in the Nation - - -Great job Ladies keep it up. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

A Bad look β€’ Sep 02, 2019 05:32 PM

Well, gives us a bad look - - - - A KU Linebacker ( Thomas Barrett ) from Cleveland was Arrested at the Hawk around 12:30 Saturday /Sunday Morning. As of Monday no Charges had been filed. Posted bond a couple of hours later - -1,500 bond.

Thing I don't get - - he is scheduled for a Sept 17th hearing court appearance - - -if no charges had been filed - -why the 17th Court appearance?

He was arrested on Suspicion of Contributing to a child's misconduct and displaying or possessing a fictitious or fraudulent ID card.

Was on Big 12's Commissioners Honor roll and the Athletic Directors Honor Roll this past spring - - Mercy

Guy's let's see , try β€’ Sep 02, 2019 05:11 PM

kjayhawks said:

@KUSTEVE We should have for sure. ESPN in their recap pissed me off, they claim ISU was the better team for most of the day. Even tho we were up 16-3 to start the 4th quarter and trailed all of 2 minutes. We were literally 3 plays from it being a 31-10 game. Meanwhile they didnt give WV or Iowa State shit for struggling worse than us.

It's ESPN lol. - -we feel ya buddy - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

2020 Recruiting β€’ Sep 02, 2019 03:08 PM

@KUSTEVE Boy Mady looks solid - -solid build to him - - I can see where they say he can bully his way in the paint

ISU game chat β€’ Sep 01, 2019 02:08 PM

BShark said:

stoptheflop said:

Hey, we've got some terrific receivers; all the other parts, especially the offensive line were pretty poor. I'm looking forward to getting Pooka back and seeing the post-game one improvement that sometimes happens.

I've got mixed feelings about the oline. Pooka will make them look better and it's not like Stanley is doing too much even when he has time. I think overall the line was okay. It will improve as this staff starts getting in their own HS kids.

I have to agree with you BShark - I think overall for the 1st game the O-Line did OK - - -The one thing and I don't know how many fricken times I've said this - happened with the old staff and even now -- Get rid of that dam little flare pass in the flat - -NOT ONCE have I ever seen ANYTHING good come out of that. - Almost every dam time they try running that thing we got thrown for big loss.

Stanly can run some but like has been mentioned by some others I think actually - - Terry Locklin will be our best QB at the present anyways - -a more true Dual threat QB - has some motor to him - - Cater can run some but not like Locklin for sure. - -

It was the 1st game you take the win and improve from here - -last year we would of lost that game - -Pooka will help for sure - -however the O-Line has to be able to provide a hole to run through get that straightened up quick

ISU game chat β€’ Aug 31, 2019 09:45 PM

Think David Lawrence made a pretty accurate statement after KU went down . - -After the game he said - -that's the difference between last years team and then this years team.

Last year after ISU went up late - would of been ballgame. - - Not this year - -said it's all about changing of the environment - -chemistry.

Stanley was far far from perfect today - - Yet got to give him props on that last drive very solid drive - - It's a win and we move forward from here guys - - take the win - -we got ALOT of work to do , BUT, you crawl before you walk - -hopefully we can learn from the mistakes today , enough of them to learn from.

Curious to see if he tries McVittie to start next week? - -Maybe he STILL doesn't know who he wants - -yet he said he would play 2 QB's a lot - that's what surprised me more then anything - - - no McVittie all day not ONE snap -they pretty well stuffed our running game after that 1st run by Herbert - -will be good to have Pookie next weekend. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

ISU game chat β€’ Aug 31, 2019 09:35 PM

BShark said:

Stanley is an adventure lol

If Stanley is an adventure - - what does that say about McVittie? - -not a single snap

ISU game chat β€’ Aug 31, 2019 05:45 PM

Texas Hawk 10 said:

Finally a good shot of the crowd. Alumni side looked pretty full, endzone looked pretty empty, couldn't see the student side except the area where the band is. I would guess the crowd is 30,000 or so.

ya they saying right around 30,000 maybe just a hair over

ISU game chat β€’ Aug 31, 2019 05:42 PM

Well- - Coach said he is staying with Carter. - -If Carter is our Starter without McVittie getting a snap - - - Were in trouble based of 1st half - -against an FCS football School. - Sorry.

Devon β€’ Aug 31, 2019 10:21 AM

mayjay said:

@jayballer73 We played UCLA in the consolation game (3rd) in 1974. IIRC, Bill Walton thought it was dumb to have that game, but played enough to make it not a close contest.

you are exactly right. - -I remember listening to it on the radio - - thought I was the only one old enough to even remember listening to that when they still had that lol

Devon β€’ Aug 31, 2019 02:49 AM

KUSTEVE said:

@jayballer73 When I started following KU basketball, Dave Robish was our center. I remember them playing Villanova in the NCAA tournament on tv, and I was really impressed with Dave. I became a KU fan instantly. That was the first KU game I had ever seen.

OK let's go down memory lane- pretty sure I am older - - but anyways - -do you my friend or anybody else remember when they played a game for 3rd in the NCAA tourney? - - I do - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

2020 Recruiting β€’ Aug 30, 2019 09:08 PM

DawsonGarcia ( I would love to get this kid ) - -was at Minnesota last Night - -along with Ty Berry - -I don't think we are going to have much to do with Ty - just don't think we are that big of factor with him.

Saw where Maddy is Splitting his Visit this weekend - -Going to be here at KU this Weekend AND also Memphis this Weekend.

Bryce is at Texas this Weekend, then will visit North Carolina the 6-8th of Sept - - -then - - Okie St the 27 th - 29th of Sept - -KU on Oct 4th ( un-official ) - -Michigan St the 25th-27th of Oct - -even though Texas Tech didn't make his list of - -t final - -they say that Bryce may very well visit Tech

Said they had planned on committing early - -but now up in the air -- ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABYr. - -

2021 Recruiting β€’ Aug 30, 2019 09:04 PM

Kennedy Chandler is another going to visit for late Night this year - - 2021 PG - -visiting Oklahoma on the 28th of September - - Texas , Kentucky - - Duke & Memphis also interested

2020 Recruiting β€’ Aug 30, 2019 09:01 PM

Gethro Muscaden 6'10 Center - -visiting KU on Sept 20th - - - -scheduled for K-State on the 6th of Sept - -and Texas Tech on the 5th of October. - - - UNLV , U Conn , VCU , New Mexico also recruiting him

Devon β€’ Aug 30, 2019 08:47 PM

wissox said:

@jayballer73 Turgeon was already gone by '88. Danny was the point guard, small forward, shooting guard, power forward and center on that team.

LMAO -- ya Danny was whatever he wanted to be - -and nobody would say nothing -- thanks about Turg - -couldn't remember for sure - not by that much though was he? - - who was our Pg then - -I can picture him just can't remember his name. -- ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Devon β€’ Aug 30, 2019 08:44 PM

hawkmoon2020 said:

For the young folks who might not know or remember. Check out the "Miracles" who did a great job supporting Danny!
https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/schools/kansas/1988.html β†—

Boy I sure remember him - - but then again I'm as old as the hills too lol - - - Roger Morningstar old - - Dave Robisch old - - -Bud Stallworth old - Pierre Russell old lmao. - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

NadosπŸŒͺ β€’ Aug 30, 2019 05:27 PM

We got over 5 inches pretty close to where I live - - - Ozawkie

Guy's let's see , try β€’ Aug 30, 2019 05:25 PM

rockchalkwyo said:

I could see attendance going either way. Close to full with everyone stoked about the new team and new coach, or what Farmer said. If I were a betting man, which I'm not, I would say the score will be in the ball park of 44-28. 3 rushing TDs, 1 pass, and 1 special teams (only because @jayballer73 says we have a returner that runs a 4.2 40). And the remainder will be field goals.

can't wait to see what he can do

Guy's let's see , try β€’ Aug 30, 2019 05:25 PM

FarmerJayhawk said:

I'm guessing around 30,000. Holiday weekend and possible weather will keep some away.

And your Score prediction my friend?

Guy's let's see , try β€’ Aug 30, 2019 03:13 PM

Hey guys anyone wanna try - - have a little fun competition just for smiles?

Might be kind of fun for the year. - - Guessing Home attendance for the game - & then predict your score - -Anybody - -be interesting to see how it turns out - -come on - -follow me - -I'll go 1st.

Indiana St - -vs KU - - -Attendance : - -41,500 - - -Score: - - KU - 34 - - Indiana St - 23 -- ok now Ready? - - -and go - -come on have some fun. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Devon β€’ Aug 30, 2019 03:08 PM

approxinfinity said:

@jayballer73 ok, maybe 58th. That would put him just about 5th favorite on his team.

Ahhh see much better lol - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

2020 Recruiting β€’ Aug 30, 2019 02:30 PM

FarmerJayhawk said:

Hey! I got the 5. Also, Bryce coming for Late Night. https://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/news/bryce-thompson-finalizes-his-school-list-visits-scheduled β†—

I wish I felt more confident with Bryce for us. - - I think we have our work cut out for us with the Oklahoma schools - -- Especially Okie State , even more with them then Lonnie BUT you never know.

Not saying we can't and won't get his commitment but just don't have a solid feel as of yet anyways. Okie State scares me on this one , I think if they get that other kid what - -Cunningham? - -could be trouble for us if that happens with Bryce talk of them being a package at Okie St. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

2020 Recruiting β€’ Aug 30, 2019 02:20 PM

FarmerJayhawk said:

Hey! I got the 5. Also, Bryce coming for Late Night. https://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/news/bryce-thompson-finalizes-his-school-list-visits-scheduled β†—

Nothing like taking a gamble on your choices lmao - -just messin with ya bud - - I was right there with ya. - -- ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Devon β€’ Aug 30, 2019 02:16 PM

approxinfinity said:

@mayjay where is Brady on your list? I think hes about 85th on mine.

LMAO - - -come on now - - show some love . - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Devon β€’ Aug 30, 2019 02:15 PM

KUSTEVE said:

@wissox That's when I realized what a genius Roy Williams was as a coach. He took a marginal talent, taught the guy to seal off his man in the post, and make the easy layup. He became a force on our team. That's some great coaching with that one.

Mark was with Coach Williams? - - I thought he was before that - - -my bad -- ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Devon β€’ Aug 30, 2019 02:14 PM

KUSTEVE said:

Anyone remember Mark Randall?He was really good in his day.

I remember Mark - -he was solid/bigger player - like 6'9 if I remember right

Tell you some others I liked - - I liked the Knight Brothers, - - you remember them? - - Danny and Kelly both. - you remember?

Devon β€’ Aug 30, 2019 02:12 PM

HighEliteMajor said:

Ok, Top Ten non-studs, but great Kansas players -- lunch pail, blue collar, bleed crimson and blue. Here are my top 10: 1) Jeff Graves, 2) Kevin Young, 3) Clint Normore, 4) Nick Bradford, 5) Landon Lucas, 6) Patrick Richey, 7) Conner Teahan, 8 ) Chris Piper, 9) Tyrel Reed, 10) Jamari Traylor. (I love Tarik Black, but just had him one season).

Mercy how time flies. - I'm almost ashamed to admit but - - -I have almost forgot about some of these and these guys I liked also - -just time I reckon - -I guess the one I had forgotten about was Richey - -the kid when he was hot could shoot the rock - real string bean right? - - 6'8 he was out of Kansas City area right?

Another two that I thought about that I would put in a top ten non stud would be: - - - Calvin ( Pony ) Thompson - -And Ronnie Kellogg - -mercy could Ronnie ever shoot the ball dam - -left handed too sweet had such a sweet shot - -Him and Calvin together was nice

Devon β€’ Aug 30, 2019 02:05 PM

wissox said:

Since I became a Jaywhawk in '85. Danny, and then everyone else. I'm not sure if people who didn't watch him day in and day out realize how good of a player he was. At the time people were comparing his skill set with Magic Johnson. Of course Danny didn't have the flair of Magic, but he was every bit as good in college. After the great players of '86 left, Danny carried that team maybe like no other player ever has since Wilt. I'd put Pierce at 2, Chalmers at 3 for his clutch gene, Collison, then Frank, then Kirk, then Simien, then Joel, then Sherron, and oh I guess Brandon Rush last in my top 10. But we've had so many to choose from!

Boy , I'm right there with you for sure about Danny. - Danny was a real pleasure to watch , and as you said he just took that team on his shoulders and carried us to that 88 Championship.

I mean sure the others played important roles that night , but they knew their roles - - I remember Clint Normore hitting that big shot from the top of the key - -But it was all about Danny that night he carried/wiled that team - - remember - - The Announcers I believe Billy Packer -- which by the way was a guy I personally enjoyed as a Color commentator - -but during that Game he kept saying how he didn't think KU wanted to get into a running game with Oklahoma , Remember? - - -50-50 half time score?

Danny was a SPECIAL player " Danny and the Miracles " ok, my memory lapse is kicking in here - -Wasn't Turgeon our PG for that team? -That was another gutsy little kid from Topeka Hayden.

Heard stories about when he went to KU an just walked ino Coach Browns office and said I'm the best PG you got - -gutsy lol - -ahhh those were the days - - -ROCK CHALK ALLD AY LONG BABY

2020 Recruiting β€’ Aug 29, 2019 10:35 PM

Dam I swear to God - - all the Phog has become is one Giant Cluster F - - - . - -these idiots on threads for the most part all they do is trade insults at one another that has NOTHING to do about the thread - -like one said Oh I'm sorry I thought this thread was on 2020 recruiting - - carry on - -Couldn't agree more with him - -I mean come on , at one time you could find some helpful insight - - -not any more - - just sad. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

2020 Recruiting β€’ Aug 29, 2019 10:29 PM

BeddieKU23 said:

@jayballer73

Just a hunch. Visiting his "dream school" on a football weekend should be a good atmosphere and good visit for him. I don't know whether they tried to get him to visit later (like for Late Night) or closer to the signing period so I'm just connecting dots that he might be closer to a decision and if the visit goes well might end in our favor.

Having seen the kid play this past year on TV I wouldn't call him elite at anything. He definitely is in the mold of a Diallo or a Oscar Tschiebwe. He is a bit raw offensively but is active and gets up and down the floor, plays above the rim and can definitely alter and block shots at a very good rate. He's definitely someone Self likes to have on the roster

I was wondering the way they was describing him - -was wonder about the other kid from WV - the shot blocker Konate? - would be nice - -you think he compares to him any at all? - -they talk about how he has a high motor runs all the time curious?

2020 Recruiting β€’ Aug 29, 2019 10:00 PM

FarmerJayhawk said:

Woodrow said:

FarmerJayhawk said:

Woodrow said:

Bryce Thompson is cutting his list of schools tonight at 7 per his Twitter.

KU, UNC, OU, OSU, Michigan St, window dressing, window dressing

You don't think KU has a shot with Thompson?

Oh, I definitely do! Like @jayballer73 said, it's just my guess for his list. I know those 5 will be on it, not sure on the other 2. I think KU, UNC, and Okie Lite are the top 3, not sure on the order. Earlier this summer it looked like it would be KU or UNC and he'd commit before school started, but now it looks like he'll take 5 officials and decide around the early signing period.

ya thanks glad I wasn't wrong lol. -- Agree with you I think it's still gonna be us 3 probably - - really little more worried about Okie St now - I mean not OVERLY worried but still - -also like you said I had been hearing a lot about UNC but yet not as much lately

2020 Recruiting β€’ Aug 29, 2019 04:09 PM

Woodrow said:

FarmerJayhawk said:

Woodrow said:

Bryce Thompson is cutting his list of schools tonight at 7 per his Twitter.

KU, UNC, OU, OSU, Michigan St, window dressing, window dressing

You don't think KU has a shot with Thompson?

I could be wrong but I don't think that is what Farmer was saying - -I could be all wrong but I think that is who he is predicting will be some of his final schools - - -cause I knw Bryce is for sure interested in Okie St - -and is interested in KU - -some say that OU is even leading right now - -I think possibly Farmer is saying these will be final 5

2020 Recruiting β€’ Aug 29, 2019 03:41 PM

Marco said:

jayballer73 said:

Just read -- not 2020 recruit BUT - -read where Grady Dick is going to take a un-official for late night -- - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

I think Dick would be a huge pick up πŸ˜ƒ. But seriously, looks like a baller. Yet another great in-state player that has grown up watching KU. We have got to sign those kinds of players. I'm still not giving up on Ty Berry.

ummmm I see what you are saying here lol - - nice - -hum - got a friend who had the last name of head - -legally got it changed lol - - -just saying and moving on lol - - - -

2020 Recruiting β€’ Aug 29, 2019 03:37 PM

Woodrow said:

Moses Moody cut his list to 7. USC, Michigan, Ohio St., Oregon, Arkansas, Florida, and KU.

https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2020/moses-moody-202543 β†—

He is visiting Ohio State this weekend

2020 Recruiting β€’ Aug 29, 2019 03:27 PM

BeddieKU23 said:

@jayballer73

Have some sneaky feeling we could wrap up his recruitment this weekend. No info, just a hunch with him taking the visit so early. We'll see

I understand what your saying my friend.- - Boy that would be a really nice pick up if we could somehow manage to get him to commit this weekend while he was here huh. - - I hope maybe you have a unknown wisdom like a physic lol - -wish I could have that same hunch- - -we shall see , says he has a great motor running all the time elite rim defender - -I like that. - - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

2020 Recruiting β€’ Aug 28, 2019 08:45 PM

So Mady Sissako will be on Campus this weekend. 6'8 - - 225 pound Center listed Coach Self how football can be a recruiting tool hoping for a good turnout for the game.

Mady said that coming to United States that KU was his dream School. - - Yet doesn't mean anything special just because it was his dream school , says he wants to go where they want him the most and where he fits in.

Mady is considered an Elite Shot Blocker. - A writer after watching Mady at a recent event - -writer for Cats illustrated which is Kentucky writer said - - - Mady was one of the most dynamic shot blockers he has seen. - -calling them Volleyball spikes -- pinning against backboards and such - -Sounds like we could use him for sure - -talked about how he can bully his way to the basket

Ranked # 48 at the present up 31 spots in latest ranking - Already visited BYU - -Colorado - - Michigan State - - UCLA - And plans on working a visit to Memphis

David Glass looking to sale β€’ Aug 28, 2019 01:07 AM

Read the article - -David Glass looking to sale the Royals. - -Sounds like a done deal - -selling for over a Billion.

Looks like it's gonna be John Sherman the current minority own of the Cleveland Indians - -said he would dissolve his ownership in the Indians to take over the Royals.

There you have it Royal fans - - -that's the rest of the story - This is Paul Harvey - - Good Day lol. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

2020 Recruiting β€’ Aug 27, 2019 07:00 PM

BShark said:

http://www2.kusports.com/weblogs/tale-tait/2019/aug/26/recruiting-update-in-state-prospect-grad/ β†—

If anyone would know about the real targets, it's Matt Scott.

Saw all the one's he listed yesterday in his article

2020 Recruiting β€’ Aug 27, 2019 12:58 AM

Just read -- not 2020 recruit BUT - -read where Grady Dick is going to take a un-official for late night -- - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Dicky V β€’ Aug 27, 2019 12:56 AM

wissox said:

@jayballer73 Yeah, the kiss of death! We've had that numerous times unfortunately. But Self has built a team that deserves a ranking like that....we hope.

Hope so - -just got to take them one game at a time - -I think were gonna be fine-- -might even take a lump early - - just never know