Good recall on Deshawn. He had a good run, but yes, D never made it on to campus to be forced to sit.
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Just between you and me; those numbers don’t give me any more confidence than a US Forest Service budget, or a DOD Pentagon budget.
dylans said:
Billy Preston or Lance Stevenson. Probably Billy
How is Billy doing in the NBA this season? Is he starting? Is he averaging double doubles yet?
I could never tell how good Billy really was.
How high was he drafted?
Kinda lost track of Billy.
JayHawkFanToo said:
jaybate 1.0 said:
I will advocate almost anything that will keep KU from spending more money that could go to KU basketball on KU football! 😀
What exactly would the basketball program do with more money? The program is not only self sufficient but generates a profit. The football program is not only self sufficient but generates a much larger profit than the basketball program. These two programs support all the other sports programs at KU and if you eliminate football you would have also do away with most of the other programs since none is even self sufficient let alone produce a profit.
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You know exactly what it would do. It would win more games. It would increase enrollment revenues by winning more national championships. And it would not piss money away on an eventual costly stadium retrofit.
Come on! Were you born yesterday? 😀
Mount Oread pleasantly victorious.
Balm in Oread!
KU victory centrally located in Michigan!
KU fans under 9 years old experience first road victory in their lives!!!!
KU’s 49ers stop spanking monkeys and get losing monkeys off their backs!!!
CMU fan suicide watch announced!!!
DNC and MSM blame Putin for Central Michigan University loss to KU!!!
John Brennan holds Trump responsible for CMU loss.
Trump officially declares Mount Pleasant a natural disaster area, declares martial law in USA, attacks Syria!
Mass suicides reported in Central Michigan this morning!
KU-CMU announce grudge match next season!
(Note: all fiction. No malice!)
As of Sunday morning, I, jaybate 1.0, do solemnly predict KU will beat CMU!!!!!
Beaty or bust!!!
I will advocate almost anything that will keep KU from spending more money that could go to KU basketball on KU football! 😀
Thx for the numbers and analysis.
The most conspicuous thing about UK under Cal—maybe even beyond how many OADs he signs and gets cleared—is how few rings he has won with so many more OADs than Self has had. Each coach has one ring. But Self has NEVER had remotely as many OADs signed and often cannot get some of those he signs cleared to play.
Maybe the analogy with those UK teams of ‘12 and ‘15 calls attention to an underlying flaw in Cal’s ”system” of starting so very many OADs and TADs.
Maybe Cal’s OAD and TAD laden teams are too poor of 3pt shooting teams to keep from being upset in the Carney, where one off shooting game by UK, or one hot game by an opponent wipes out the OAD/TAD advantage?
Think about it.
Maybe Cal has to have 6-8 of the highest ranked 20 players in the country to even have a prayer of winning a ring, because they just don’t tend to shoot a high enough average from trey-ville?
UW, which upset ARGUABLY one of UK’s two most talented teams UK has had—had great perimeter trey shooters and a footer that could make the trey and pull UK bigs out.
Put another way, maybe it takes 6-8 of the best freshmen in the country to offset mature opponents upsetting you with great 3pt shooting on hot games in the Carney?
Thus two questions arise about this year’s KU team:
a.) does KU have 6-8 of the 20 best freshman; or
b.) does this team have enough maturity and 3 point shooting percentage to offset other mature teams with great trey shooting on an opponent’s hot night?
KU appears to lack sufficient OADs to win the pure talent route.
Alas, KU also seems to lack the combined maturity and 3pt shooting to win the other way.
So: KU should be very good, but have a low probability of avoiding upset.
Would DaSousa be the best KU player ever stopped from playing by NCAA delay, if Self sits him the entire season waiting to hear?
The tide has turned!!!!!
Belleau Wood!
Guadalcanal!
Mt. Pleasant, Michigan!!!!!!!!
Beaty and his Birds broke a 49 game road losing streak!!!!!!!!
Is that 49 correct?
Give him an extension!
It was a decisive win!
At least 5 years!
If he gets another win in pre conference, make it 10 years.
If he goes .500 for the season, then give him tenure to 65!
Is the modest sentence a deal made to get him “to compose” some allegation of perjury by President Trump?
Or is this just an indication of how little was involved in the way of proven violation?
Texas Hawk 10 said:
Girod doesn't have the authority to fire Beaty and Long who does have the authority officially took the job on August 1. Firing Beaty that close to the season means an interim coach for the season. In KU's case, that means most likely Clint Bowen.
Beaty will be fired at some point and won't coach KU in 2019.
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Does Girod have the authority to fire Long, who has the authority to fire Beaty? Or does Long not even have the authority to fire Beaty?
What is the actual chain of command?
Republican majority betrayals of Trump have arguably caused him more problems than Democrats.
Will the outcome be any different than if the Democrats take the House?
....are they self-serving, disingenuous bosses giving Beatty rope to hang himself?
Or is there some other more politically correct explanation?
What might Mueller get Popadopoulos to “compose”, as Dershowitz calls it, with 14 days of jail time?
Maybe he will say Trump and Putin use the same brand of henna rinse? And maybe he will say he heard Trump lie about using henna rinse; that could be the perjury charge that requires no evidence to stick!
Starr got Bill Clinton for lying about a BJ.
Now Mueller might get Trump for fibbing about his hair coloring method, even though Trump denies using Henna rinse!!!
Could Brennan, Rosenstein and Comey go to the FISA Court judge and ask for another year of citizen unmasking regarding NSA intercepts with the term “henna rinse” in them?
Sheesh!
When I was ten and I grabbed a neighbor’s electric fence set up to keep the neighbor’s German short hair inside the fence, and I got jolted off my feet, my dad asked if the fence was still ok?
Times change, I guess.
Is he eligible and how is he looking?
KUSTEVE said:
The real sacrifice are the thousands of Chinese women making .20 an hour, working 80 hours a week in horrible conditions so Nike can pay Kap millions of dollars. The hypocrisy is profound. Just my opinion- you won't change my opinion, and I know I won't change yours.
Frozen rope out. of the Park!!!
You’re not dreaming. I recall it to. Or else we are both streaming. Or this is a simulation. 😀
mayjay said:
@jaybate-1.0 And Deep Space is real. I saw the Ferengi making all types of scams up there. Odo and Jax couldn't do a thing, and they drove Sisko right out of space.
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I am going to miss the apparent secret space fleet legend, when it is let go like an unsuccessful KU football coach, aren’t you?
mayjay said:
@jaybate-1.0 Can't do 2001 again. No one listens to waltz music in movies anymore.
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That’s what they told Stan before they gave him the dark circles around the eyes. He went ahead and used Strauss anyway!!
Waltz rocks!
KUSTEVE said:
All I know is there is an 180 mile long funnel that is turning at 200 mph. Now that is one hell of a wind tunnel, folks.
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Thank heavens it’s not a monolith. Getting hit in the head by a monolith at 200 mph would hurt!!!
Let’s mount an international effort like in 2001: Space Odyssey, and go investigate it now. I bet $20-30 Trillion would cover it!
😀
Military strategists have a rich, varied and occasionally bloody terrestrial history of trying to grab strategically expedient water resources. It’s hard to forget this once I saw the Pont du Gard aqueduct.
Nothing conspiratorial or Sci-fi fantasy here.
In fact, it would appear quite a historical anomaly were TPTB today to refrain from their predecessors 2000 year old water habit, I am sure you would agree.
And that misaccounted for $20-30 Trillion needs to be explained SOME HOW. RIGHT? 😀
I’m not kvetching, or complaining, here. The national debt run up by the private central bank owners is already far beyond US tax payers apparent capacity to service. The Fed apparently e-prints the debt notes out of phase space in split seconds. I can’t think of a better use/abuse of the fiat e-debt capability than cornering the solar system’s handiest water supply for the modest initial cost of some robots and lasers and a few nukes zoomed up to a Saturnian moon by Space X that would likely handily plug and play on the Deep Space network NASA says its been building in earnest the last 10 years or so.
IMHO, science fiction has all been such a silly distraction, even it’s been for predictive programming uses. It keeps many of us from getting on with the straight forward business plan of development and management. I seriously doubt The Office of Net Assesment relies on Sci-fi to decide how to manage the strategic aspects of the solar system, do you?.
There are NO conspiracies of major significance in my opinion regarding management of the solar system. Our Pentagon and our bureaucracies would squish them like bugs over time.
The future is ALWAYS now!!
What happens is what has long been instituted to happen coupled with some faster (or slower) than expected and a few unexpected techno advances.
I don’t see why folks waste time with sci-fi, conspiracies and conspiracy theories, when the important, decisive stuff is all duly instituted and sooner or later quite out in the open, do you?
Why don’t people just read the National Security Act of 1947 and stop making up silly conspiracy theories, or echoing those made up by Intel, about how USA operates? I just don’t get it.
Conspiracy theories, especially those reputedly packaged as big budget movies, appear so largely irrelevant to what happens.
I don’t understand the fascination with sci-fi and conspiracy theories beyond their artistic aesthetic merits. Once you learn their authors, like Art Clarke, had Intel connections, well, who can take them seriously, right?
Reality, when you can clear away some of the disinfo used to obscure some small part of it, is so much more interesting than all this made up rubbish by Intel plants in media and victims half frightened out of their wits by what have you, don’t you agree?
Ah, but I’m preaching to the choir here, aren’t I?
Robots are real. Bill Gates and Warren Buffett and so on say so. I’ve seen them weld car parts for decades now. And Gates and Buffett have no reason to lie...about robots.
The Deep Space network is real. NASA has no reason to lie about it that I can discern.
The handy water under the ice on the Saturnian moon is real. Lots of space scientists have no reason to make it up. It really would be useful in industrial uses of space.
Safely storing defense and financial and infrastructure data and mounting weapons beyond the reach of your terrestrial enemies do likely counter abilities to erase same on earth with EM PULSING and/or explosive destruction. Such data redundancy in Deep space is a real benefit NOW!
Robotic space flight in the solar system is real and feasible now, unlike human space flight, which might never be.
The water resources on the Saturnian moon and the need to control them from terrestrial competitors like Russia, China, Japan, UK, Germany, with emerging space and robotics capabilies; that’s only logical AND common sense.
No need for sci-fi to explain this.
Since there are no Russians, or Chinese, on Saturn to justify sending robots there, sound military strategy dictates sewing the possibility of aliens there to rationalize the enterprise.
The longer this misaccounted for $20-30 Trillion at the Pentagon hangs out there, the more alien legends we are apt to see floated to predictive program its eventual explanation.
Going to protect us from aliens since 1998 with secret expenditures of, oh, say, $20 Trillion could be a great explanation of where the money went. They had to develop space travel and robotics technology to save us from a possible alien threat. Capice?
And besides, sooner or later, the Pentagon does need to send robots and weapons to stake out control of the water on one of the Saturnian moons. If I recall correctly, a moon on Saturn (or is it Jupiter?) has the largest known liquid state oceans under an ice cap in the solar system other than earth. There’s apparently quite a bit of ice here and there in the solar system, but liquid water, in vast quanties, separated only by a thin ice cap, is apparently scarce. Think of it like oil on earth. Oil is ubiquitous on earth. But low sulfur oil in vast quantities at a controllable location near the ocean suitable for low cost refinement and transshipment is relatively rare. So: you grab it when you can. Same with water in our solar system.
Space travel and robotics technologies are proliferating rapidly among Pentagon competitors, like the Shanghai Security Pact countries, plus Japan and the Euro Space Agency. It apparently makes sense to grab that water now with a robotized military force structure. The water and it’s salt will likely be indispensable for any long term robotized industrial activity in space down the road.
KUSTEVE said:
It's pretty obvious that both of you are taking this latest loss really hard. I know when you get your hopes up, a defeat can really be discouraging. Sometimes that pain of losing can get misdirected, and you can end up treating a fellow fan like a dirty leg Missourah fan. So, I want to encourage you both to remember the good time. Not the good time(s)...nope. The good time :
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Actually I haven’t taken the loss hard at all. I have been surprised how much others seemed surprised and pained. As for me, I am little interested in KU football and have for a long time wished KU would withdraw from the sport to avoid brain injury risk to student athletes, at least until the reputed risks are empirically refuted at high confidence levels.
I do agree with you that some other than me have appeared to take the loss hard. Why is quite beyond me.
I am for KU withdrawing from football and finding Coach Beatty a job in athletic administration, if he would like to stay at KU. He seems like a decent person. If KU does not wish to withdraw from football, then it makes sense to me to give him a 5 year extension and let him keep trying to build up the number of scholarship players. Please, no more firing coaches for rebuilding pains.
Finally, arguments that KU needs the money from football have always seemed unsound to me since KU and KU Football are not intended to make profits, just break even. Football is a very expensive sport. The net benefit lost might be quite bearable, but for the dollars going to subsidize minor sports at levels of operation higher than their revenues justify. Obviously the thing to do is to operate the minor sports based on what the state is willing to appropriate, pull out of football, stop exposing 60-90 players to brain damage, and enjoy basketball.
Alas, the main reason for KU fielding a football team appears to be: a.) to stay a viable member of a power 5 conference for the sake of the basketball team; and b.) to keep the PETROSHOECO contract money coming that is tied to football AND hoops. The system appears to.be set up to incentivize perennial losers, like KU, to keep fielding a team in both football and basketball, regardless of the amount of head injury and arthritis risk posed to student athletes.
A tragic situation, but hardly one Coach Beatty deserves to be scapegoated for so some other greedy special interest group can impose their particular pet favorite as the next big losing KU football coach.
Rock Chalk!
BShark said:
No one is surprised. I literally predicted it.
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Please do not reply to my non-replies.
Welcome back!
BShark said:
Please don't reply to my threads in the future.
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As Magritte might have posted, this is not a reply.
BShark said:
I want to believe that JB is a parody account.
Every now and then I link his crazy ramblings elsewhere and most people assume he is some kind of weird forum joke.
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Welcome back!
Dear Sports Posting God,
I am so blessed that I never ever have to reply to @BShark again. Thank you, god. Thank you!!!
Just kidding!
wissox said:
@jaybate-1.0 Come on sir! We can't have expectations for the football team? Like competence? Like win 6 freaking games and play in the Cornflakes bowl? We're an example of America's failed education system because we want success? Getting a little carried away with your analysis methinks!
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Your expectations would cost TPTB nothing, so yes you apparently get to have those.
The system apparently loves your free expectations. It gives them eyeballs, clicks, bets, souvenir/concession sales, and some butts in the seats the first 4-5 games.
You even get to complain. Anything that doesn’t hurt the system is apparently ok.
But if you really want KU to go to the corn cube puff bowl consistently, or join the elite and play for rings, then you have to go work something out with the gumbahs, kiss the hand and make an offering you can fulfill, capice?
Or you can get some bucks up alums and buck the system by spending big money to buy coaches and players.
Based on historical patterns, you will get 2, maybe 3 good seasons...
Then the system apparently retaliates
and back to the bottom KU goes and careers in the KU bureaucracy get damaged.
The bureaucrats appear to get what appears to be going on. No one appears to whistle blow on the system, just on those that appear to violate it and win too big, when they are not part of the plan.
Call it all a hypothesis and ask if the more politically correct “stupidity hypothesis” offered as a supposedly more realistic hypothesis fits better. It doesnt appear to do so to me. There is so much money to be made by getting smart and winning rings that KU alums would long ago have spent the money needed to get smart if it were feasible to just wise up and win consistently without the gumbah’s blessing. Inference: a system appears to obstruct perennial doormats from getting smart and winning consistently.
You board rats disappoint me today. You are acting like naives; like this was NOT supposed to happen.
What kind of idiots have KU football fans become?
Let me recall a real politik explanation of college sports I heard once from a person that did not appear to have been born yesterday. It went like this....
Back in 1955-1975 the adult KU fans he knew understood the deck was stacked and KU would be lucky to have 1-3 good seasons in 25 years.
You went to KU games to picnic (now called tailgating), walk around the beautiful campus in fall colors, be regaled with stories of going to KU in the old days, and complain about how everything was rigged to favor OU, or Nebraska. Americans back then understood the world was Damon Runyonesque; that it was set up to fleece suckers; that the milk of human kindness and compassion, when not curdled, was all that made it tolerable. The guy said that America was different than Europe then, because the fleecing in Europe had all long since been clothed in the drags of theocracy and monarchy; that it was god’s will and the king’s wisdom that created the classes and the unfairness. He said America was still so new that Americans, except for the saps, KNEW it was all a con game. They knew it was all rigged. It’s why they were so good at rigging it and why so many left so many extra crumbs on the table for the saps...because so many Americans had been poor and exploited before they figured out how to rig the games themselves.
They understood the good seasons only happened, when a freak like Sayers came along, or when a group of small pond alumni decided to break all the rules and buy coaches and players the rigged system system would not allow the doormats in sufficient numbers needed to win with to sign. Doing so would produce a few good teams and then TPTB “back east”would either wreck the program by exposing its corruption, or pay the coach handsomely to go to “a better school” and take his ringers with him.
Everyone not living in fairy tales, he said, knew the better schools were rigged winners, or else had been selected to become so, to replace some other rigged winners that had been skimming too much off the top.
They did not like, but they at least understood, that was all the rigged system permitted at Kansas. Kansas had basketball and they understood there were “reasons” why KU Basketball was always at the top, too.
Has the Deep State’s curriculum engineering in public and private education designed to dumb down Americans really worked THIS well?
Does American now equal sap?
KU is apparently getting paid handsomely by the system, as it always has, to maintain a doormat football program for the media-gaming complex that has run college sports, since the 1920s, at least. Reliable losers are as crucial to the media-gaming complex as are reliable winners. They are the marketing and risk management parameters necessary for a stable gaming system. It only works predictably with a normal distribution. There has to be a big middle, too.
Where you reside in the system apparently depends on initial conditions and who along the way you ally with that climbs the ranks of the media-gaming complex and its apparent lackey—the NCAA.
Does no one really get it? Or is EVERYONE a bot, or a click-work, paid shill now?
This appears to be a gaming SYSTEM, not a competitive sport.
It appears to be rigged.
It is apparently a fake sport.
If it weren’t rigged to pay the doormats for being doormats, the bottom third of D1 would have long ago quit engaging in brain damaging 18-23 year old males.
All revenue generating college sports are apparently rigged to one degree, or other. It’s what pays to keep the lights on.
It’s not all bad either, as I recall the old guy telling me.
It is a way to see amazing athletes do amazing things. It’s like a circus. The small town rubes didn’t complain about “the acts” and hustles, when the circus came to town. Fleecing saps was part of the price of getting the circus to come to the small towns at all.
College sports are apparently NOT a way to see door mats transformed into winners based on the hard work of the door mats alone.
Door mats that become long term winners have been selected to become winners to punish another winner that skimmed to much, or because demographic changes could be better exploited by adding a new winner, or a new mid packer there, and moving others down the pecking order.
Texas got too big for its britches in football a few years back and destabilized the system pushing for realignment. It apparently got sent to the middle to show the Texans no one is bigger than the boys “back east.”
KU has gotten what it should have expected when Perk and Mange and some alums rocked the boat.
It appears the circus came to town again.
Enjoy your popcorn and quit acting surprised.
Next.
A fake Urban Meyers T-Shirt:
Urban Says:
“Nothing is better for me than thee.”
Gregory Porter.
Next.
In the future agents will sign kids in 6th grade and only let them work out till they are draft age?
Whatever happened to TRob’s little sister. Did she come to KU yet?
Realizing Nike’s already sell for as much in China as they do in USA, and in time will sell for higher there, and in vastly greater numbers, it hits like ton of chow fun: the politics at just starting in sports!!!!!!!
After skimming his wiki page briefly, my money is on him being controlled opposition.
US intel and the Deep State appear to roll these guys out endlessly on left and right to take up oxygen on the wings. They carefully marginalize legitimate discourse and keep it from attaining a critical mass of consensus whatever their reasons for doing so.
For every apparently controlled Noam Chomsky, there follows an apparently controlled Jordan Peterson on the right.
(Note: I know, I know, I have no certain idea what the guy really is. He may be American Socrates, also, but the life history has that feel. All this and what follows are speculation from the outside looking in to a box that appears pretty opaque to me these days.)
Black Money is apparently spent to foster and grow the divisive issue, media figure and/or group and then a later lackey is rolled out to divide the divisive issue.
The controlled opposition appear often cherry picked young from the “other side”, or so the cliched legend goes. They start out a young idealistic leftie (or rightie) and then learn how fouled up and corrupt the left (or right) ideologies are and move right (or left). Capice? It probably gives them character arc and also makes them feel kind of vulnerable to exposure for having switched. Who knows? You’d have to be an Intel pro to know their techniques.
The managers of the discourse propaganda game have to get a good chuckle each time some of us get sucked in and take 5-10 years to catch on to one of their latest lackeys.
Full Spectrum Dominance Doctrine apparently requires lackeys not only on both ends, but high brow and low brow on the ends—AND in the trusted center. Not just MSM has to be controlled—the wings have to be, too.
Chomskys and Petersons—“controlled brilliants” if you will—are needed to frame the official talking points, for wannabe intellectuals, same as “controlled bombasts”, like Alex Jones, are needed to serve the low brow market.
It’s all about managing the political signals and resulting engineered public opinion in the differen markets.
One of the tells is whether these guys get to stay gainfully employed in the establishment and spout their “controversial” stuff (likely controlled), or they get shit canned (likely uncontrolled).
Another tell is if they are successfully monetizing their dissent, rather than getting sent to the poor house. True dissent is rarely profitable while those one dissents from are in broad control of the levers of power.
Then there are even a few that are apparently full blown professional spooks (maybe Edward Snowden?) that apparently maybe get assigned to go “rogue” and infiltrate and inform for “the other side.”
Even guys widely believed to be true dissenters, like Assange and Norman Finkelstein and some of the internal leakers revealing about American and European media being fully controlled by the CIA/MI5/Mossad since the 1950s have to be viewed somewhat skeptically, unless they get verifiably whacked, or “accidented”, IMHO. There just is great intelligence benefit, and historical precedent, to creating fake defectors given very thorough legends so as to insinuate them into possible spy networks of opponents. Assange, if he were really still alive (seemingly unlikely but possible), and Finkelstein, could be the real deals, but you can’t be sure, so long as they at least appear to be alive . Someone like Snowden seems a likely fake defector, a digital age equivalent to Lee Oswald and reputedly many other fake defectors back in the old fake defector program days when the Soviets sent us fake defectors too. Assange and Finkelstein could turn out to be counterfeits, or real. Unless they are verifiably imprisoned at Leavenworth, or verifiably executed, you can’t say for sure. And it is frankly very tough to verify real imprisonment or execution these days. Remember Osama bin Laden? The guy has reputedly died so many times so many places I have no idea what really became of him, though if I had to bet, I would bet $5 on kidney failure back in 2001, or 2002.
Speaking of controlled opposition, where’s the apparent Infowars lackey, Alex Jones, or whatever legend he goes by, going to pop up next? They appear likely clearing him from their wake, if he were controlled. Maybe he fades away, like Mike “Peak Oil” Rupert. Each of these guys appear iterations of the guys that preceded them. Disinformation in America is a medley of medley relays. Set’em up, use’em, knock’em down. Repeat.
Our private oligarchy’s reputed Deep State controlled media told us all very plainly 9/11 changed everything; that things were never going to be the same. They haven’t been. Take them at their word. On 9/12 Dubya reputedly signed the executive order implementing the FEMA COG, which was only to be implemented in case of war, or other national emergency. It has reputedly never been rescinded 18 years later. We have apparently been in a state of war or some kind of national security emergency ever since. Whatever, this is NOT a conspiracy. They have told us what has been done. They codified it retroactively with the Patriot Acts and Military Commissions Act. The torture prisons operate. We are searched at airports and mapped and listened to. A border wall has been being built under two Presidents now that can both keep others out, and us in. 5 or 10 countries have been knocked over and Iran is reputed to come. Reputed mass murder and weaponized refugee vectors have been resorted to. Millions are dead. Time tested agent provocateur acts of violence and terror appear to occur with official explanations that make little sense and evolve as skepticism and contrary facts arise. Presidents have apparently been selected and destabilized as needed in plain sight by a group the apparently controlled MSM openly refers to as a Deep State. The current reputedly unexpectedly elected President openly and repeatedly says elections are rigged and the news is fake. The Deep State and the MSM apparently openly want him removed and likely jailed. Pedophile rings traditionally used to compromise public officials surface frequently and then recede with out successful prosecution. Candidates guilty of reputedly known major violations go unpunished while lesser offenders are given massive sentences. Feasible 24/7 NSA surveillance of all digitized information flows reputedly occurs. The CIA contracts for $600 Million with Amazon ownership that also owns the WAPO. The current NSA director reputedly even learned very soon when the secret FISA Court was being improperly informed by the FBI about the dirty dossier for god’s sakes. NSA reputedly can look at any intercepts and know if Russia and Trump colluded even without a special prosecutor. The internet has been openly reinstituted to allow the big tech firms to make it hard to find the facts and easier to marginalize and smear dissenters and leakers. Late in the Obama administration the government reputedly authorized itself to use propaganda on the American people for what reason I do not know.
THERE IS NO CONSPIRACY.
Folks that believe in conspiracy just haven’t been paying very close attention.
Motives may be murky and complicated, but then they usually are.
It’s all above board otherwise, whether you think it’s stupid, or smart, wrong or right.
To borrow Coach Self’s phrase, this is who we are...now.
The goal is clear: national security at any cost.
The result so far appears broadly clear at least: sharply conditioned freedom, oligarchy rule (see President Carter) and fantastic re-concentration of wealth and power in the hands of a small private oligarchy, a trillion dollar mil-int budget, and an internal struggle over which axis of private oligarchy gets to wage war to stop the the Shanghai Security Pact from staying in control of the Trans EurAsian super corridors and starting their own EurAsian central bank. This is euphemized as “the China Pivot.” The MSM reports very selectively, but it doesn’t take a rocket scientists to simply look at what they don’t cover, read a little, and see what they are omitting and sometimes why.
What’s hard for people is the relentless fear mongering and fake news insinuations of wrong doing that never pan out, and the resorting to arrests for unrelated crimes and the inducement of the arrested to “compose” something that contradicts the story of those we put our trust in by vote. This wears an ordinary American down when 5 holding companies coordinate their 90% of MSM outlets to pump out fake news and allegations for a year. Americans probably now have some idea now of how our opponents feel once our mil-int complex commits to destabilizing a foreign country. Destabilization hurts.
But Jesus once said: the rich we will always have with us.
If Jesus were alive today, would he say: the rich and their spooks and controlled opposition we will always have with us?
Jordon Peterson?
Maybe he is real, or maybe he controlled.
Either way...
Be skeptical.
Be very, VERY skeptical.
And be so whether one self identifies as conservative, liberal, or indie.
We ordinary folk need to constantly keep in mind how little we can know for certain in war time, when the well of information is being poisoned with a virtually unlimited budget for whatever reason.
We have to remember that war unearths and exposes many of the long term flaws and power cliques of a nation and especially their corruption of its government, as well as its heroism and virtues and commitment to its values. Disappointment is to be expected but despair is not allowed.
We have to hope and pray those at the top know more about what they are doing than it has appeared they do so far, and at the same time be loyal, skeptical, civil, vigilant and encouraging of whatever republican self-governance continues, so that slowly, fitfully but inexorably competence and insight and representative vision can resume more fully operational than presently appears the case.
I believe America will eventually prevail over its intentionally engineered divisions, and opponents, but economic circumstances and certain elements within the private oligarchy are going to be very problematic, as they were in the Depression and early days of WWII, also.
Nothing is written.
But there is no doubt the sled runners need some wax about now.
Actually they had six.
justanotherfan said:
....I think Grimes will be an improved shooter.... At KU, he will have opportunities where he is the second or third option, or will have plays where the defense is drawn away from him....
KJ, Moore and Dotson are good enough shooters to keep the defense honest. KU doesn't have a Graham or Svi to hold a guy outside at all times, but KU has enough solid shooters to keep the defense from packing it in.
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I am grateful to you for trying to put this issue in a reasonable and reassuring light, but...
OMG! You, whom I trust implicitly at least to try to ring out the fantasy talk and tell it as it is; i.e., without the hype, have done so again and.....alas, you have confirmed my worst fears.
First, Grimes, on a team full of newbies and transfers will be second or third option some of the time 😱.
Second, the team doesn’t have ANYONE like Svi and Devonte that teams have to stretch to guard every possession.😱😱😱
Now think with me a moment here.🤔 💭
No. One. Like. Devonte. Or. Svi.
Last season, Nova had SIX guys like Devonte and Svi!!!! Hell, two were in the paint!! 🤬
Every second or third year some team has 3-4 like Devonte and Svi. Heck, only a few years back even the bang ball cheese heads had 2-3 outside AND a footer that could pot the triceratops. And it seems Consonants always has 3 trey guns.
And EVERY season it seems like a few teams have at least 2 like Devonte and Svi, right?
So this means this team is trying to win a ring without as good of 3pt shooting (not even talking about Nova grade here, just average Final Four grade shooters), as some other elite teams almost certainly will have, AND in a season when many coaches will be trying to emulate and implement some or as much of Nova’s trey offensive and defensive schemes as possible.
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JayHawkFanToo said:
What makes you think Dotson is a short guard? Every single publication (even KU) lists Dotson as 6’2” the same height as Devonte and Chalmers and taller than RussRob, Sherron, Mason and Tharpe and just an inch short than Tayshawn Taylor, all of the recent PGs at KU. Moore is the same height as Collins, Tharpe and Mason...and no, I am not going by KU measurements, which actually proved to be spot on if you look at the listed height at KU and compare with measurements at the NBA combined in the last few years, I am going by listed measurements in other publications which list height. You are welcome to find a recent publication that lists Dotson shorter than 6’2”; his height in elementary or middle school do not count.
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You already know EXACTLY why. HOWLING!!!!
And Charlie is positively diminutive with historical indexing!! 😂
Next.
jayballer73 said:
@jaybate-1.0 Seems like though we have just recently had a couple of short point guards Well Devonte not that short but seems like Frank and Devonte shot the ball pretty well, just because your short doesn't mean you can't play the game. - Look at Tiny Nate Archibald - - - The Small fry from Kentucky a couple of yrs back , Frank - our POY - were gonna be all right
It means you can be NPOY and be one of the best short guards of the modern era and need help from wings, get contaied against NBA perimeter bodies like Quentin Grimes, and not make the Final Four in the case of Frank Mason, whom I dearly love and respect.
But competitive basketball officiated as it has been in the March Carney means any obvious weaknesses like short players playing shorter as the game wears on get ruthlessly exploited by Nike EST opponents.
War is hell.
Assymetrically officiated Carney ball played against NIKE EST teams stacked with OADs is at least a war game with live rounds.
No prisoners taken.
All weak links broken.
I am already disappointed.
Vick and Grimes relegated to wings by a couple short point guards that Vick and Grimes will have to cover for on defense and shoot for on offense.
Orthodoxy costs will be paid to the end of the season.
Unorthodoxy costs would only have to be paid till January or early February.
But orthodoxy and playing the OADs that keep the OAD spigot open will likely prevail.
And we will likely celebrate another 30+ win season, a title from overwhelming numbers and get shot out of a gym when we have to shorten to 7 against a team with a 6-3 point guard, a 6-6 2, and a stretch 4 as good as Ded, and a 5 that can shoot the trey and pull Doke out to 20 feet.
The thing is: to win a ring, KU’s starting 5 and first two rotation players HAVE to play a scheme that can OVERCOME whistle asymmetry and flat out beat the other 2-3 best Nike EST teams in the country, when they shorten to seven to keep their best guys on the floor 38-40 minutes with the refs no calling the KU OPPONENT back into the game from 20 to 5 remaining and then putting the KU opponent on the FT line the last 5 minutes. This is the recurrent pattern every non Nike EST team faces each March.
So: Self has little choice but to get his most dominant two scorers in position to strike as quickly as possible to avoid passing to get open looks that just allows more no calls.
Any non Nike EST team that runs the stuff down the stretch against any TOP 3 Nike EST team is playing into the structural asymmetry apparently imposed on such games.
My point here is this:you don’t want to run offense all season and run 8-9 man rotations that rely on point guards passing to get Grimes, or Ded, the ball, because the no calls stop that cold in March.
You also don’t want to waist your time with Grimes and Ded driving for short treys, because those COMPLETELY disappear in March.
The 7 man rotation and the 40-50% trey and the carry them up on your back dunk are the only way on offense for a non Nike EST team to have ANY chance in a Final Four these days.
I’d rather invest in Grimes at PG now instead of having to shift over to in March.
Besides, even if Grimes plays 2, he will effectively take over point to seal close conference games.
Cut to the chase.
START him at PG so opponents face maximum stress from tip off and rest whenever they crack.
That way you get to run with what brung you when the refs weigh in in March.
Seems Self faces a tough choice. Grimes might be best at 2 or 3, taking over the ball for stretches, the way MJ used to.
But Self needs a point guard to let QG play that way.
Maybe Self WILL get away with Charlie and Dot at point with Grimes or Vick at wings switching off onto tall PGs.
OR Self can make Grimes a tall point guard, use Vick/Garrett at 2, big Ded at 3, and rotate all his remaining 5 bigs at 4 and 5.
If Grimes can do what you saw, then I say give him the keys and let him drive and kick. Oscar Robertson and Derek Rose seem like Grimes best precedents. Both demolished the NCAA.
I like Rose for a precedent. Rose had CDR AND an bunch of bigs. Ded = CDR. Figure KU’s bigs will be better than Memphistos. Figure KU won’t miss FTs down the stretch or run into a better coach.
Hang banner.
Thanks for the insights. Sounds like quite a player.
No, mind wide open. I really do want to know who board rats are thinking Grimes will compare with among freshmen on ring teams of the past. I haven’t seen him yet. No doubt he is good if Bill thinks he is ready to play immediately. But at what role and level of contribution do folks see him at? That’s what I am trying to learn from you and others. Will he start and be a hub, like Rush. Will he be second fiddle like Wiggins became with Embiid? Will he just dominate and run the show like Magic? I still don’t have a feel for what folks are expecting from him.