Since Schlocka jump shifted to a Seal training metaphor, should Self jump shift from Boot Bamp to JSOC training? Or maybe Jedi camp?
Heck! Who would have thought /r/Conspiracy on Reddit would become more informative than mainstream news?
Waiting for Wikileaks on the March Carney!
Smart Texas basketball is to let KU and Bill self with 11 straight conference titles.
Pure genius!
Another thing: through out my sixty plus years I have survived many better mouse trap offenses. They come along about ever 7-10 years.
There was the wing T in my fathers day balanced and unbalanced lines.
There was the T and shotgun 1.0 balanced and unbalanced lines in my brother's day.
There was the split T with single and double wide outs, or with a wing back, or a slot back in motion or not.
There were the I formations: power I, I with slot/wingback, and single or double wide outs with or without motion.
There were the shifting backfields with bobbing line men and men in motion.
There was the Wishbone triple option and the broken bone.
There was the run'n'shoot with 4 wideouts.
There were the shifting shotguns with 3 and 4 wide receivers on a side.
There were the no huddle offenses. And all the nuanced blocking schemes.
There was Packer power sweeping, and 49er ball control and quick strike Air Coryell, which was Sid Gillman on steroids.
And there is the Air Raid.
And I'm not even talking about defenses: 6-1-4, 5-2-4, 5-2 Monster, 4-3, 3-4, shooting the gaps, 7/8/9/10 man fronts, nose tackles, penetrate and hit, read and react, down defensive ends, up defensive ends, no defensive ends, middle line backers, no middle line backers, m2m/zone/hybrids, blitzes, stunts, etc.
Always it comes down to who recruits the most and the best lineman and most and best skill players regardless of the offenses and defenses. And if one team has the best material for running a wishbone the best and another team has less good material for running an Air Raid, the Wishbone prevails, and vice versa.
As my two football coaches that won titles all through six of my junior high and high school years and my class of kiddie ballers only lost 5 games in six years and won three state high school championships used to say, with the right talent, and the right execution, every play run from every offensive formation should be a touch down. The only reason it isn't is that someone messed up, or let up, or got beat, somewhere. Hence the relentless pursuit of killer instinct with perfection execution is the ultimate criterion of championship football. All offenses and all plays from those offenses, if run by the right players perfectly are unstoppable. Everyone that has ever studied football offense and defense knows it. The plays are designed that way. Even the 5 and outs over the crown of the field on the wide side, could be turned into touchdowns with the right moves.
I never saw perfection, but I saw near perfection for 6 years. Its a real thing to me. It stayed with me the rest of my life. The right people doing the right thing at the right time with nearly perfect execution can do anything.
But in my kiddie ball experiences, the coaches didn't have to recruit. They were just great coaches and had one helluva lucky run of talent.
In D1? You gotta sell. You gotta close. And you gotta do it competing against 20 teams that are already in the Top 20, because they have been selling and closing on their share of the best--enough to get to the Top 20 for 5, 10, 20, or 50 years before. Their recruiters are known commodities and their program is a known brand. Its a tough club to break into, because non of those recruiting position coaches you talk about want to make a horizontal move to come to a career boneyard, when they could stay where they are and keep getting her done. They mostly only want to make the move up to OC, or DC, or HC at a place like KU. If they are going to make a horizontal, they find a slot with an even better program than the one they are already at.
Finally, regarding Nick Saban hating to play spread offenses: Nick Saban is 108-18 at Alabama. Nick hates to play any offense with talent that overwhelms his talent in what it tries to do and executes better at doing it than his guys execute at stopping it.
I can guaranty you Nick Saban would have hated playing Barry Switzer's OU Triple Option teams the most, when Switzer was four deep at all 22 positions with guys bigger and faster than Nick's, even as much as he hates playing the Air Raid.
Nick Saban would also have hated playing USC the years it had OJ Simpson and was 3-4 deep at every position in guys that could overwhelm you athletically on both sides of the ball.
To be candid, Nick Saban hasn't had to hate playing almost anybody several of his years at Alabama, because he's has held all the aces quite a few times.
And if Nick Saban really did hate playing spread offenses the most, and hadn't figured out how to beat them, well, he would be the leading proponent of spread offenses.
When Woody Hayes held all the aces, Three Yards and a Cloud of Dust was the offense everyone hated to play.
There are soooooooooo many ways to win playing offensive football that its insane, but they all hinge on having the deepest team with the best players executing the best.
Lots of offenses are annoying and nerve wracking to play against.
And if score were kept in the game based on which offensive scheme was the most annoying, or irritating, I suspect the Air Raid, the Triple Option and Three Yards and a Cloud of Dust would be up there as all time winners.
But the all time winner in football, same as in basketball, is the team with the most great talent best suited to its offense and defense and executing the best on both sides of the ball.
I just don't see the connection of Tressel at Youngstown and Ohio State to an NDSU coach to KU. I have tried, but cannot make the connection.
Also someone's gotta close. And to get kids Ohio/Western Penn, Florida, Texas, and California, to come to one of the worst football programs in the country in the CST, I just have serious doubts about a guy from NDSU being the right guy to close.
And the above seems quite problematic even once informed of how different football and basketball recruiting are.
Rock Chalk!!!
Good point. Forgot about Anthony. He could be Joel's Big Russ--someone smaller, but fierce competitively and athletically very active. But imagine how much Anthony must be dreading having to deal with Joel backing him down on the blocks. Anthony goes up for a block from point blank range and Joel sweeps him aside like a gnat with one arm and dunks with the other.
ON the other end, Joel has to deal with his activity. It could make them both a lot better, same as it seemed to do for Wilt and Big Russ.
Let's just hope Joel winds up with the better roster more of the time than Wilt did.
We shall soon see for sure.
It's fascinating how differently this sort of footage can be interpreted. Your interpretation makes good sense.
But when I look at a starting 4 going against a backup in summer grab and stepping back to shoot a little jumper I think, man, if he won't go to iron on a backup, what's he gonna do against a good D1 prison body with hops willing to go out and stick a finger in Bragg's eye on that little fade away?
You see an NBA move.
I see a guy avoiding contact in grab.
You see potato.
I see potahto.
This is why we are all jazzed for the season to start: time to see what these newbies can do along side the combat hardened vets!
What I saw is how summer grab does not compare to D1.
Almost no contested shots. All 3/4 speed. No help. No trapping. No need to recognize opposing defense. No bigs chasing out to 20 feet. No hedging decisions. No one being put on the floor. Not one stiff screen or forearm smash. Noone punched in the face. No one "playing operable." No long finger nail slices on the shoulders. No fingers in the eye. Not one XTReme Cheapshot. No referees favoring your opponent everytime down the floor. Not much trash sproiken. No players crossing mid court listening to coaches screaming at them for the last mistake. No on ball defenders looking like perps in a dark alley waiting to punk the guy on the bounce. And the above all happens in the first three minutes of most serious D1 games.
This video shows basketball how it was meant to be played...not how it is played.
Thx for posting this feed. It's like a time capsule back to footage I have seen from the 1930s.
I love seeing the game played the way it was intended.
I love the smiles on the players faces--the lack of menace and lack of pain and fear. That is true sport to me.
It's innocent and beautiful the way the game was and could be again.
It is not Vegas jai alai on petrotreads played like Kirk Douglas and Woody Strode stalking each other in the gladiatorial combat scene of Spartacus.
But otherwise it reveals nothing (at least to me) about moves, or skills, or survival instincts among the untested at the D1 level, much less in NO BOYS ALLOWED.
This is not even Paris Island, much less combat in TURKEY, the Stans and Russian in winter.
It is neither 115F nor 20 below. There are no swarms of MAVS, no loitering killer drones overhead, no live rounds, no satellite pattern recognition software reading at 1cm resolution and matching your uniform's camo pattern to its library of known patterns and picking you out amongst your enemy and pulsing you into human pemmican. No wounded. No screaming "Corps man!" No radiation sickness. No nonfunctioning but still living soldiers in the grips of designer viruses earmarked to attack the very immune inoculations your military gives its soldiers and having their mortal illnesses designed to drag on as long as possible, because as Ho Chi Minh taught: wound rather kill for one injured or sick American requires 2 more to carry him back to safety. The wounded and sick of our enemies multiply our force. The dead not so much.
To continue the dreadful metaphor (being used because many fools profess war today with even less insight about war's implications than similar fools before WWI) this footage from summer grab is about equivalent to weekend leave in Honolulu a few weeks before a war for control of Eurasian super corridors commences.
Self and staff probably call it Baby Ball.
Not saying Bragg and Azuibuke aren't going to be good. Self said Bragg could become a great one last season, if he stuck around.
Saying these feeds don't show me much about Bragg and Doke.
Just how I wish the game could one day again be played.
Rock Chalk and thanks for posting it.
I like to think of Embiid as the harbinger of the end of Small Ball. Let's see how Lebron and Durant like driving on Joel, once the refs start protecting him as a superstar two years from now.
A great big man with goggles could OWN the NBA for five years. It will take the NBA at least 5 years of scrounging to ramp up quality footers and then it will take another 3-5 years to get these lemming coaches and GMs to figure out how to play big man ball.
If only Joel had more skills, he could go after some of Wilt's single season records. Joel will NEVER have to play against a Big Russ, or Nate Thurmond early. Lucky Joel!!! It's almost like he is George Mikan coming into the game again. Tim Duncan was the last big man and he was in the old man stage the last 8 years, so none of the superstars of the L has ever really played against a great big feeling his young oats end to end! Awesome reward for Joel for fighting through all the injuries and believing.
Go slay some lions, MR. EM-BIG!!!
Rock Chalk Jayhawk!
Question: why does an assistant coach at a good, or elite program recruiting top grade football prospects move to KU to be an assistant? Wouldn't he only move to be HC, DC, or OC? That means hiring a Small college program HC LEAVES ONLY TWO LIKE BIG TIME RECRUITERS YOU CAN HIRE. Further, those two guys do a ton of actual on field coaching, and video study, so they can't be on the road constantly. Can you get the numbers of players needed with only two top recruiters that can't be on the road all the time.
Hiring a top recruiter like Beatty was supposed to be means you get three--Beatty, a DC, and an OC.
Seems like 3 are better than 2.
Also, I'm not sure the analogy of Tressel and Ohio State works, since Ohio State does not equal KU in football recruiting.
A fair, sobering analysis.
Could an NDSU LEVEL coach sign B12 caliber talent without having been recruiting it the last 4-5 years? That is always my concern about reaching down to coaches that have built winners at small schools.
Would keeping Beatty the recruiter, and finding a new OC be more feasible a building path?
Or do you get a guy that can run a program and he hires some assistants with recruiting pipilines?
PHOF!
Cant recall his name now but that sounds right.
"In politics, nothing happens by accident. If it happens, you can bet it was planned that way."--Franklin Delano Roosevelt
Reputedly Mike Pense's 737 hit a La Guardia runway a little fast tonight and the smell of burning rubber reputedly filled the plane until the plane suddenly began to roll without brakes and come to a stop off the runway in some grass.
This plane accident happened later the same day that a Wikileak revealed that Bill and Hillary Clinton have been leveraging their personal wealth to the tune of $10,000,000 or so from the Clinton Foundation.
I wonder if Mike Pense, or Donald Trump, recall the Roosevelt quote above.
If they do, then Mike Pense should not have to ride any more commercial jets until AFTER election day, on any day that a new Wikileak is being released.
Likewise, no D1 basketball team should risk a commercial flight with Mike Pense, or Donald Trump, or Hillary, or Kaine.
Trump is no fool. He reputedly sticks to his own private aircraft.
Very crazy time in America.
Oh, and my dad played basketball for the Ichabods his freshman year in the late 1930s, before he transferred to KU. He tried to play at KU but wasn't good enough. So then he transferred his last two seasons to KSU (its a dark family secret) to get an ag degree to come home and help run his father's business. But then the war swept him up. The rest is another story.
The pictures of the 1966 twister really take me back.
My great aunt and uncle lived in Topeka and the twister missed them. But I remember driving to help them run errands a few weeks after the twister and I vividly remember vividly driving down a street that looked just like the one on the right in the aerial view. It was an insane experience. I remember everything on both sides of the street was obliterated and just a few blocks away one direction everything was okay. I looked the other way and I couldn't see the end of the devastation. If I recall correctly it was two mile wide swatch and the twister skipped couple of time leaving stretches completely intact. Seeing that turned my brother and me into "storm chasers" before there was a name for the activity. When he got old enough to drive, we chased the squal lines looking for funnels. Pretty fool hardy in retrospect. That twister was also what made me take meteorology my freshman year and meet the professor at KU that created the first man made model of twister cloud, if I recall correctly.
Holy cow! Coleman Hawkins is from Kansas? Sweet.
I knew about Annette Being. She was the Grace Kelly of her generation of actresses and I have always hated Warren Beatty for taking her out of circulation to make his babies BEFORE she got to do a few really great films.
Wow, this greatly expands referee control of point spreads.
Can Wikibasketballleaks about the team's in the wrong time zones be far in the future?
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No kidding?
I'll be dipped en menudo.
Vayas con la cabeza de dios.
I ain' nunca learnt so mucha peninsular er isthmusian Espanol afore.
Goodness gracias.
Just havin' a little pidgin fun.
Now ah'll cierro mah boca.
Muchas Thanks.
All these sensies in Hollywood don't have a flipping clue what jocks went through. The story is always told from the mensch's POV and the jocks are the big bad guys. What a flipping joke!!! All my pals were so sore and exhausted and their aggression was so spent we never even thought twice about harassing non jocks. That's all plot contrivance by kids that wished they had not gotten cut, or never had the balls to go out.
I never believed in all the coaching violence toward players. When you're 14 and over and you are out for football you are already looking for some one to crush-- looking to payback all the beatings you ever took from anyone. I.needed zero encouragement. I needed someone to tell me NOT to spear opponents and they didn't do that. They gave me oak leaf stickers for my helmet every time I did it.
Water with held was the stupidest.
But human beings are mostly fantastically stupid creatures; this is why love and compassion are so important to nurture.
Rock Chalk!
For 3 years of junior high football we were never allowed water. When we got to highschool they gave us Gatorade breaks during 3 a days and we thought we had died and gone to heaven.
Of course back in my dad's small town in 1930s you had to practice without helmet and pads till you made the team. I always thought that was kind of harsh!
I love it!!
I played football for a. Coach that used head but guys and give them bloody noses cuz they didn't "kill a cripple!" In Bull in the Ring. He used to walk around the practice field shouting "practice ain't over till some one draws blood!"
I remember watching Taxi Driver and Mean Streets by Marty Scorcese thinking what an effing pussy. He should have made a movie about my junior high football practices. That was REAL BLOOD RITUAL and acrobatic violence!!!
And my cousin who played in the Deep South thought we were light weights.
Como se dice pelota mala, mi buen friendo?
Air Jordan vs Nike?
The key to success is to own nothing and control everything. --Nelson Rockefeller
Pelota smallito 😄
In an alternate world, where one assumes there are no shoe contracts with schools and coaches, the power teams of the summer games sponsored by the big shoe brands have built up no apparent brand lean in players, where there are no agents, and where there are just drivers of proximity to home, coaching skill, school basketball program quality, and a head coaches' abilities to sell and close, RECRUITING OUTCOMES OFTEN DON'T MAKE MUCH SENSE IMHO.
But in this world, where there are shoe contracts with schools and coaches, where power teams of the summer game sponsored by the big shoe brands do appear to build up some brand lean in players, and where there are reputedly not only agents but agent runners mentioned by coaches and sports media influencing things, RECRUITING OUTCOMES DON'T APPEAR SO SENSELESS IMHO.
I wonder when some investigative journalist will write the next book about recruiting that is quickly marginalized?
There seem to be fewer and fewer of them.
I wonder if that means if basketball is so squeaky clean now that there is nothing to write about?
Or if...
Como se dice: "make the world safe for Big Shoe" and "Mike's gettin' a leeeeetle too big, lets see how he likes a little regime change"?
"He came. He looked. He went small."--jaybate 1.0
Silly me.
I was sure Self was blowing smoke about four-out-one-in (4O1in).
NOT.
It wasn't blown smoke.
It was e-cig Vaping.
Self was vaping like a rice burner leaving campus with its window down an inch and its driver crowding oxygen out of his brain and exhaling the buzz and the cotton candy air leaving window wake.
Self was vaping small ball big time
Self has joined the addicted.
It's like he hung with Steve Kerr and Luke Walton at Club Vapor in Santa Barbara this summer and got a cloud-on and can't get it to go down.
Here is the e stick quote that betrayed him.
"Dwight is still not 100 percent (recovered from ACL surgery). He’s structurally fine. He’s still dragging it a little bit. Mitch is going to be good but Mitch is young, green and doesn’t totally understand yet. It could be situations as much as anything else.”
Situations.
That is the most chilling word you can say about a big.
Situations means this guy can barely play. He's good to lean on someone for a minute. It means not this season.
It means Self was blowing out a huge vapor cloud from a deep inhale off the deadliest high there is in coaching: small ball aka EL BALLITO aka 4O1in.
Just ask Steve Kerr how great El BALLITO is after lucking out one year and falling to earth the next.
No don't ask Kerr. He just picked up Durant instead of a good big man. He is so hooked on El BALLITO inhaling he is probably laying in some East Bay intersection sucking on the tail pipe of a natural gas bus.
Self even has that grinning, edgy, crazy top of the pyramid eye look that vapers get between chem trails. Next thing we know he's going all pasty white with the eye liner look of Luke Walton trying to take El BALLITO to Smog Town.
Self tried to go big. He went out and got him some bargain 747s at the Jumbo Jet Outlet Mall out near Edwards AFB. Had'em flown in to Ranteul at night, retrofitted, and rolled' em up to AFH and said in the temple of his basketball familiar get on some spots and let's play some MAN BALL.
Clearly Bill was trying to get back home same as Dorothy after the twister sucked her up out of the populist storm and set her down with the flying monkeys and evil witches and hemp hit fantasy side kicks.
There is nothing new about chemical augmentation of the senses with an e stick.
Self tried to stay on the spots again but then the Bigs he brought in couldn't getter done...even insummer grab; that was when the new 4O1in habit of last season turned into a flying monkey on him.
Self fell off the big man wagon and now he is starving, hysterical, naked looking for a lift in a rice burner, like just another vaping kid on campus.
Bill might as well quit kidding himself about playing fast and break out the old three point needle and surgical rubber tubing.
It's mainline the iron pyrite time again.
The paragon of Big Ball has been reduced to just another pale thin kid in tight legs talkin' latte with the barista between hits on the e stick now.
Lord, where is Betty Ford 2.0?
Self is going with a 2 man big rotation (1 in) with a back up called Doke that could foul out of every game playing only 5 minutes per half.
Henry is shaking his head up in the shadows of the girders of AFH and saying, "The pressure finally got to him, Forrest."
Yesssssssss
RUMOR: Brannen Greene has undergone plastic surgery to become Josh Jackson's doppelgänger from 3 point range.
RUMOR: Frank Mason will be listed at 6-3 this season.
RUMOR: If Kansas goes Trump, Trump will build a 134 story Jayhawk Trump Tower on the site of the Jayhawker Towers and each roster player will occupy 3 stories of the tower. The rest will be the Sheldon Adelson Jayhawks Casino that will replace all other casino betting lines in college basketball and KU will never lose another game.
RUMOR: President Obama will retire in Jayhawk Trump Tower and teach constitutional law at KU Law. Hillary Clinton will retire there also after her two term presidency. She will teach criminal law emphasizing cases involving members of her campaign team. Trump, Obama and Clinton will reveal the entire election was a puppet show.
RUMOR: Self will break the apparent recruiting embargo, and win ten straight rings.
(Note: all fiction. No malice.)
How come Self doesn't get a hat and glasses?
He is getting too dignified in old age!!!
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How committed to Smart is Tayhoss?
How many years does he get from UT without a conference title? Without knocking Self off his pedestal?
Will Nike long stack him, or are those days behind us?
Question: is this the year that KSU fans finally start wearing hair helmets to honor Bruce?
If Bruce were a REAL man, they would all be played on the road.
HOWLING!!!
Has this year's mock burial been announced?
I hear he is going to bury a likeness of Frank Martin in concrete tennies out at Tuttle Creek Reservoir!!!!
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"All we are saying/
Is give Bill a chance...."
Sung to the tune of "Give Peace a Chance."
This should be sung by the student body at every nationally televised home game and accompanied with signs waved reading:
"STOP THE
APPARENT
RECRUITING
EMBARGO
NOW!!!!"
One more thing: notice how the leaness of the embargo has forced Self out of his inefficient habits of all the players he used to sign and run.
Sign and run is decreasingly part of his repertoire.
Scarcity has focused him into signing what is essential. He has moved from a chef who experiments wastefully with ingredients to a chef who makes the most of whatever ingredients he has; this was why Wooden became so great AFTER the first two rings with players other teams had not recruited hard. Wooden learned efficiency in coaching before the great talent and depth came. And when the talent came in tidal waves he never forgot efficiency.
Self is in a position to do the same thing...
If he can ever break the apparent embargo.
Efficiency in coaching is as important as efficiency in playing.
When economies survive embargoes, they are often stronger after, because their producers and consumers have had to improvise and develop to survive. When they re enter a competitive economy it may take awhile but their massive edge in developed human resourcefulness eventually show up in rapid growth (e.g., Germany, Japan, China, Russia, South Korea.
Coach Self is probably a far better coach now than if he had not been forced by the apparent embargo to improvise and develop. But...
Self was a good enough coach to win a ring BEFORE the embargo, so it has been a very costly apparent embargo to his quest for enough rings to join the all time great coaches.
The silver lining is those imposing the apparent embargo may have created unintentionally a $6 Billion Dollar Man kind of coach should he start being allowed his share of the players. He is better, stronger, more multifaceted and skilled than any other coach at an elite program now because of the apparent embargo and his will to get better.
THIS IS WHY ITS IMPERATIVE KU KEEP HIM NOW AT ALL COSTS AND NOT LET THE SUCCESSION IN CHANCELLORS CREATE A POWER VACUUM THAT DUKE CAN SWOOP IN AND EXPLOIT!
It is a pivotal moment looming in THE LEGACY!
Almost no one I knew thought Roy would leave KU for UNC, after the last time he turned down the UNC job. Not sure what you are referring to. I was in touch with quite few Jayhawks then, too.
Thanks for clarifying about Mason and Devonte. I didn't recall them being ranked around 53 in top 100.
Are you saying Shai decommitted from a school like Towson before he signed with Florida the way Frank did with Towson? I didn't see that.
It looked to me like Shai was a hotter prospect than Frank. Can't recall Devonte's rank.
One thing: we have 100% agreement that Self knows guys that can play.
I have no doubt Shai could bring it if Self likes him. I just found it nerve wracking that no other major wanted a Top 100 prospect. I worried that it might signify clearance issues!
We know he can play if Self likes him.
But do you think clearance issues might be a risk with Shai?
IACJN -- I am channeling James Naismith.
SAFEUAETFP -- Sports Are Fun, Ease Up and Enjoy the French Pastry
SCRTTAMM/WBTTO -- Sexually Castrating Remark That Took Away My Manhood/Womanhood Before the Tip Off.
(Note: all fiction. No malice.)
/sargasm = an ecstatic release of sarcasm
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Yes, it is awful to utter such a thing and I run to the mouthwash bottle after each post.
But it is worse not to ride shouting the British (another loathsome word to my Yankee Doodle dandy tongue) are coming than to let the red. Coated bastards come and drub us and take what we love.
I hate saying Self and Duke in the same sentence except Self beat Duke.
But we CANNOT be sleeping and let them take him as that vile sears doubleknit powder blue sport. Coat wearing Dean took our Roy.
I'm telling people this is a danger.
And we must alert our leadership who are intransition of the risk!
Ok now we are getting somewhere.
Neither of us said we were smarter than Bill, did we? No, We did not.
My point rests on Self being smarter than us.
My point rests on him knowing better than we do that his chances for joining the great coaches hinges on access to Nike players and that Duke gets dump trucks full, and that that job is coming up.
Self hasn't won a ring, since his access to the best players in the greatest numbers forced him to recruit the kind of players he said he won with at Tulsa, and to get by without as good of talent as Duke and Uk.
Self is so smart he appears to know he can't win rings with the talent he has had access to. He has focused on what he could win. Titles.
Ding, ding, ahooogah!!!!
We've got those leaving bell blues Bill,
We've got to keep you on the hill, Bill,
We love you so
We always will...
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He can likely eek another ring out over 10 years, since he is the best coach in the country.
But Self needs 4 in 10.
Odds of that extremely low at KU with current recruiting dynamics leaving the petroshoecos out of it.
Odds much stronger and dollars probably much greater at Duke.
I like my reasoning on this more and more.