I would not be at all surprised if KU and South Carolina would play in the Kentucky "Double?" year. Frank Martin has really taken this program to a new level, is very anxious to up his SOS after last year's tourney snub, and it would be a great renewal of the old coaching rivalry..
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@BeddieKU23 My TV is safe from that call, or the others, too.
It was endangered by Perry being a complete nonfactor and by all the missed 3 ptrs. Far outnumbered any problems caused by refs. A good team should never play so poorly as to leave it in the hands of the refs.
@jaybate-1.0 Excellents pearls to live by, but, but, but, but--where is the most important saying of all, "Muck Fizzou"?
@BShark said:
He never should have made the tournament the year they shocked us. 11 losses going in, 4th in their rummy conference and didn’t win their conference tournament.
Heck, I thought you were talking about KU's 1988 championship team! Except we were 3rd in a much harder conference. Still, some thought we should not have gotten an invite and were there only because of Danny's rep. Most losses by any champ up to then!
@JayHawkFanToo Looks like JCCC has men's bb home games both Thurs evening and Saturday afternoon if I read their schedule correctly.
Maybe might have required too much compensation?
@Crimsonorblue22 Children of the anti-vaccine crowd?
@Crimsonorblue22 How big would be ideal? Do tickets cost much? I assume a new place would charge more.
@Crimsonorblue22 Oh, for crying out loud! I said I hope they don't whine because it would be distracting, not that they are whiners!
@justanotherfan Oops! Forgot to mention Svi!
@jayballer54 And don't forget Ken Koenigs, of the 4.0 GPA, whose 6' 10" height always caused everyone to think he should be greater than he was. He also became a doctor and I believe he was on the Alumni Association Board for awhile.
Sort of a Perry Ellis type without the spin moves. Consistent, not spectacular, if I recall correctly.
Do you remember 2-year player John Douglas with the 40+ pt game vs Mizzou? Sweet time!
@jayballer54 You will certainly find this article interesting as your rehabbed knees hop you on down Memory Lane:
http://www.kuathletics.com/news/2013/11/7/MBB_1107133713.aspx ↗
And another:
http://m.kusports.com/news/2014/feb/08/ku-honor-1974-final-four-team-during-wvu-game/?templates=mobile ↗ (this is taken off my phone, so I don't know how it works on a laptop or desktop)
TJ Pugh became a doctor, I believe, and I think he has been back a lot.
@drgnslayr Flip or Flop? Not a fan of unctious Tarek or his whiny Valley-voiced wife....
@dylans Sorry! Not at you at all! My comment about whining was only about hoping the team doesn't fall into that trap. Focusing on injustices can become a built-in excuse for losing.
Dissatisfaction institutionally with the NCAA--to try to effect change--is entirely different.
@Lulufulu They might have a hard time scheming in view of several other players also out there who have proven themselves for longer than Vick as major threats. B Mac was good because he was the one most feared and did it anyway.
JJ, Devonte, and Frank (and now that tiny little fella at center) all have to be accounted for. How do you scheme for that many options, especially when 4 of them are good--at times, brilliant--passers?
@BeddieKU23 You do have to respect Cal's willingness to play a heck of a lot of tough nonconference games. He gives his fans an exciting product (despite whatever else we can say about him).
Kaep certainly seems determined to keep his name out there. First, the flag demonstration, second, his statement about it, third, his explanation of not voting, and fourth, this. I would think he would run out of feet, or at least his mouth wouldn't have room for any more.
Maybe after the election, when Trump's allegedly fatal provocative Tweeting did not have the negative effects predicted, we will now see more and more bold and outrageous statements from people all over the political spectrum.
"140 characters of fame!" Instead of 15 minutes.
Kaep might be thinking controversy is the best way to success!
@JayHawkFanToo Good points, but I think people seem determined to believe KU would have found a way to make it work. What they don't seem to realize is that the arena would be needed, I believe, for all three matches that second weekend, not just the regional final. (I do wonder if the Neb bb game could have been moved to earlier to allow for a floor install--like 11 a.m., but when you start inconveniencing TV, well, then there is hell to pay.)
In a larger sense, it is really moot simply because because the decision has been made and isn't likely to change. (Edit: I guess if Texas loses there is a chance of us hosting, acc to the Newell article.)
If the players get pissed about it and use it as motivation, all the better for them.
If they spend a lot of time whining about it and worrying about Texas, uh oh.....
How many times have people on this Board obsessed about eventual unfair matchups down the road when our bb seeding seemed wrong, only to watch us get eliminated before the "unfair" round? That is the danger for the players if they get distracted. Two games at home, two games elsewhere -- all steps that have to be taken to get back to where they are aiming.
Anger (redirected from the Committee to all opposing teams) can help you prove you are better. Whining does nothing but make you look vulnerable and unconfident.
@approxinfinity said:
Someone tell the refs thats two travels on the same possession aren’t like algebra; they do not cancel out.
Maybe a new non-call. Travel + travel = Vacation.
@kjayhawks Thank you for making your feelings so clear. It clears up a lot of things.
@kjayhawks Which sucks worse? Which has longer lasting effects? Which can exist and be perpetrated without ever being uncovered? The answer to those questions might depend on which side of a 400 year history of racism your shade of skin puts you.
I think Charles Schulz would abhor the misuse of his cartoon character that broke major conventions, and pissed off school segregationists nationwide.
@Crimsonorblue22 I had a houseful in an old farmhouse I owned about 20 yrs ago. Apparently they had moved in after discovering a major population explosion of mice, whose evidence was all over any cabinet base in the house. They were shedding their skins in the crawlspace and in the pockets of my cinderblock foundation walls.
Right up until one of them started moving along my left arm and lifted its head out of attic insulation to flick his tongue at me when I was sprawled out up there removing some siding and sheathing.
The siding removal was of wood-boring beetles, thus justifying a $5,500 full "tent fumigation" of the house, and collaterally eliminating the offending reptiles. No, I didn’t have to buy new underwear--but almost.
In any event, when the snakes were there, there had been no mice, just their historical evidence. So, they do work!
@kjayhawks Problem with poison in the car is that the mice can die in an inaccessible place and then you will be paying for disassembly and cleaning and lots of aerosol deodoizing sprays.
Traps are better!
@Crimsonorblue22 I guess you could get a snake to hunt 'em down. Or put a cat under the hood.
@approxinfinity said:
Oh here it is Jay. Explaining away Duke's loss to us because they didn't play well.
He did say KU was the only team to handle their transition game, and that Duke scored zero in transition. I think he is hugely impressed by KU.
@Crimsonorblue22 I had an old 1969 Rambler that depended on the mice under the hood to turn the treadmill. Early version of a hybrid.
@BShark Well, I hope we help 2 or 3 times at least.
@RockChalkinTexas said:
That is 3 losses in a row. The "fire Shaka" rants should be starting soon.
Let's troll their websites and set it up just for fun!
@Crimsonorblue22 Can I have the keys and some money?
I am retracting my JJ as PG suggestion.
@brooksmd said:
Think the guys have worn out their 3pt arms.
Still shooting over 53% from 3 pointville.
@JayHawkFanToo
Careful, when @Crimsonorblue22 starts flinging emojis you're toast.
I know. Look at what happened to me. She even went back and changed Sunday newspaper stories! The woman has no peer.
@Crimsonorblue22 Fran is busy lamenting that Major League Baseball has dropped the idea of an international baseball player draft where he can again prove he can pronounce their names.
@Crimsonorblue22 Well, no duh!
@Crimsonorblue22 There were at least two million points illegally taken from Frank this week!
@Crimsonorblue22 @JayHawkFanToo
Apparently my conclusions are not shared by our coach:
From a LDJ article on Sunday I wish I had seen before:
....
Bechard laughed off any suggestion that the selection committee might have given Texas the nod over Kansas because it has a facility available for all time slots for the regional round.
“No way, they are going to seed them one through 16 and then figure out who can host and who can’t host,” Bechard said.
....
Well, when you are wrong it is good to get it settled, no?
@Crimsonorblue22 @jayballer54 just needs to stop jumpin' on all them FAT HOSSIES!
@Crimsonorblue22 Hmmm.....Maybe I was reading between the lines. I know the NCAA has a history of adjusting seeds for logistical reasons. I thought the "problems for KU hosting the second weekend" was a reference to that, otherwise I didn't see the relevance to the long discussion of problems if it simply goes to a better seed.
@jayballer54 Sorry to hear that! Pain can be a warning. Or it can be the body still adjusting to all the indignities. Get it checked out. Don't want a minor problem to get bad! Good luck--I have been thinking about your recovery for months and hoping it was going well.
@jayballer54 I saw the purple and was expecting you to start posting some stuff in Korean. How is the recovery coming along? Still rehabbing?
@Crimsonorblue22 said:
Seeding had nothing to do w/court size. There are options.
Please read the article. Options were severely limited. Might be a good incentive to build a 4500 seat site.
The football team could possibly get their first sellout in years there, too!
@JayHawkFanToo Here it is. Jesse Newell article from 11/27. Make sure you have recently cleared your cookies or the KCStar site limits your access. I tried to cut and paste it but there were major frustrating format issues. My phone was starting to smoke, or maybe it was coming out of my ears.
http://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/university-of-kansas/article117438783.html ↗
@kjayhawks Agreeing to disagree is a welcome relief from all the people of all persuasions nationwide who seem unable to conceive that people can genuinely have different ideas and still be good Americans! Thank you.
Of course, I am excluding Mizzou fans from my generalization. Just sayin'........
@JayHawkFanToo I noticed the difference between "a 5 seed" and "the overall national 5 seed" but not before all the dissatisfaction was voiced. Your analysis is penetrating. The LDJ site, or KCStar, also explains that the seeding was partly due to KU's arena being below Elite 8 standards and there is a huge conflict with AFH that would require use of a nonstandard floor for the vball teams, at least for practice or something.
Incidentally, what do people think about Ohio State not winning the Big 10 East yet likely to still be in the FB playoffs?
@kjayhawks I think refs pretend not to see it when it is by the coach (old rules) or a player away from the ball. But when the player with the ball stops dribbling and turns to the ref signalling for TO, well it is hard to miss!
@jayballer54 Thank you. I caught the tail end of the ESPN report on Brown/Bryant but missed the details.
You see these things in baseball all the time when someone forgets the number of outs.
Or occasionally you see a Chris Webber call a nonexistent time out in a nat'l championship game! Okay, just once, but remembered forever!
@BeddieKU23 Could JJ become a PG, a la Magic? His passing is superb, his ballhandling at speed is amazing. But can he control the ball well enough for lengthy possessions?
@ralster said:
Maybe you’d better realize there is a wide, wide variation in ages and experiences, even generational differences between those of us who post here....
That was the basis for my post--different people could have different--even extreme--reactions to that word; it isn't unfair to let casual users of it know that it can be loaded for some. There are lots of articles on line written by rape victims about how it can wrench them back to their experience.
Microaggressions?--I don't recognize the concept. Absurd to me, as no doubt to you. But to extend: Real aggressions, however?--I fully support efforts to stamp them out, and think bullying of defenseless people deserves being booted out the airlock.
A couple of others: "Rape culture"? Don't agree with that as an indictment of society, or of men, as a whole as some contend. Rape as a major problem and too often laughed about or ignored?--Absolutely. (Need we go any further than Stanford rapist dad referring to his son's rape of an unconscious woman as "20 minutes of action"?)
Lecturing or sermonizing, by the way, is all anyone can do to effect change on an issue they feel requires elucidation. Read about any gang rape and you often see witnesses who said they were not willing to get involved, or even participants who were not willing to object. Maybe educating people about the whole subject can broaden the awareness needed to give more people enough moral courage to speak up. My exposure was extreme. Most people prefer not to be exposed, and for good reason.
I note you might tend toward sermonizing, too! (By the way, I wanted to fork this over to a new thread but didn't know how.)
@Kcmatt7 So many things were in my generation's favor but we didn't have some basic modern necessities: smart phones, dvr's, microwaves (most of us), Super Glue, remote car openers, massage shower heads, mulching lawn mowers.....
Plus, you will live long enough to see someone go to Mars. We had the moon for 3 years! Sigh--44 years has gone by in a flash.
@Kcmatt7 Thanks! One goal hidden in some of those ideas is to give parents or others a sense of providing real long-term help and some stability by making a payment or two if needed. Anything to avoid a default, because that is what the banks use to justify the high rates. And when you miss one payment, gosh, it just seems so easy to miss another one.
I was lucky. No undergrad loans because my parents saw it as a given to pay for college through a PhD or equivalent at KU. I borrowed Federally Guaranteed Student Loans to pay the difference for law school out of state. Payments were deferred automatically for 9 months after graduation, then deferred for my 3 years of Army service, then finally began coming due some 10 months after my discharge, so I started paying back my loans some 4 and 1/2 years into my career. Interest was deferred, too, and I think some of the current programs don't have that feature during grace periods.