Who would have thought Dave M would be the most reliable FT shooter under pressure?
Favored team looking for huge upset?
@approxinfinity QG's playing with more fluidity tonite.
Now Mitch has Want To too much....
Like Mitch celebrating with his hands still on the rim! Man has WANT TO!
nuleafjhawk said:
So, where would this game be if Vick was on the court?
This is a trick, Fort Worth?
wissox said:
Boise's blue football field, Eastern Wshingtons red football field, TCU's white court, Minnesota's white court. 4 worst playing surfaces in all of sports. Oregon's wins the consolation prize.
Two others are worse: KSU and Duke both have, well, things identifying them as KSU and Duke...
Woodrow said:
If Charlie would just accept his role he would be serviceable
I am catching up on reading the entire thread for 1st half after watching it. Can usually remember what happened in the game causing comments. Not this one. Lots of candidates, unfortunately!
@BeddieKU23 As did, fortunately, the progeny of the evil turncoat Carl Henry.
@kjayhawks "I do question Self’s we have no one that can guard him comments."
Really? I found that comment the most refreshingly honest comment by Self in years.
The problem is, we thought it was a comment about Dedrick when really Self was providing a hint about how bad our defense might be this year.....
@wissox I remember that some people proposed this strategy to have the "real" starter avoid facing the most dangerous hitters 3 times since stats show that hitters tend to do better the 2d and 3rd time they face a pitcher.
Lots of concerns about inflating usual starters' W stats since the second pitcher in a game does not need 5 IP to get the win, just to be in the game when a lead is taken and not later relinquished.
kjayhawks said:
Supposedly a players only meeting took place Wednesday, Which doesn't mean we are going to win the title lol but it could be a good sign of these guys coming together thru adversity.
With all the questions about leadership, I wonder if in future years this meeting will go down in legend as the famed "WTF, Man?" meeting as the players sit around and wait for someone to take charge.
@DanR I like JT's 3+ assist rate. Reminds me how good he was at feeding in the high/low.
@Bosthawk I went to the Jamari pages. He is doing well. Translated them into English by Chrome. Here are a couple screenshots--some interesting translations, including his name!
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I like "average number of steel" the best!
truehawk93 said:
I feel like Bill Murray in Ground Hog Day and ready for this to end.
Me, too! But, we have to remember that there was a significant moral in Groundhog Day: You have to learn really important things about yourself and change to move forward.
Either that, or the message is you will likely make a few thousand dunderheaded mistakes before you can get laid by the woman of your dreams. I get so confused by deep movies....
@Crimsonorblue22 Thanks. I think I get a different perspective by being out of the media cauldron surrounding KU. I get to see games every few days, participate here, and just read a few national websites, so I am not riding anyone else's emotional roller coasters. (Except my wife when she screams or gets really nervous, but she does that about "Family Feud" and "Deal or No Deal?" also, so.....)
Although Svi has a 3 year contract, it needs to be renewed by the Pistons by July for it to be guaranteed next year. So he may be looking for work depending on their dedication to a youth movement.
I think I am glad I was able to deal with all the great traumas in my life--my failures, my decades of depression, my disappointments, and my inability to meet the expectations of others--out of the public eye. With that perspective, a few impressions:
I look at Grimes, and it is obvious he is clueless about how to be that fluid 1st rounder, and how to fix things when the game is going too fast. I see a guy who would have benefitted from expecting to develop more gradually, but modern cbb doesn't allow that anymore.
I look at Dedrick, who has put up AA stats this year despite inconsistent passing to him and with no help in the post where he has been forced to play as the only big, and I see people questioning his effort? or his character? And I think, wow, has he ever complained? Is his stoic expression more important to people than his single-handedly keeping us as competitive as we have been?
I look at Mitch and wish he had been allowed to play the small forward position, and I marvel at his ability to stay enthusiastic. Despite having to come in as a 1.5 ppg undersized player expected to turn it around in the middle when everyone is floundering.
I look at Charlie Moore, and the only flaw I see is that he tries too hard, goes too fast, and tries to change every game with boneheaded "hero" shot selection. His passes would have led to twice as many assists but for the team's crappy shooting.
And Vick. I look at Vick, and like everyone I wonder what is going on. If it is a mental issue, it is largely beyond both his control and his own understanding. If it is emotional distraction from outside, I can only hope he can learn to deal with it--maybe getting out of the glare will help. I see someone whose face alternates reflecting either a wild fierceness or a bizarre disconnect to the game around him. I see someone whose talent belies the ropes holding him back. And I wonder how heavy it may be for him, knowing at times he is the savior of the team and at other times the anchor dragging the team down.
Finally, I see fans dealing with seeing a team of lofty expectations appearing to dismantle as we watch. Disappointment, anger, cynicism, hopelessness and helplessness all combining to just sap the joy out of us.
I know 2 things, going way back to my very first post a couple or three years ago: those kids are out there trying so freaking hard, and they are vastly more crushed than we are when they lose. So, I am going to do what I can to remind myself that there is always a lot of fun watching KU, and that I can be both disappointed and appreciative for the team, and that if this year is a bust I guess reality had to come sometime. Almost a decade and a half of championship ball (conference AND an NC) is something no other fanbase has ever had. I refuse to let the possibility of it ending get in the way of my unbridled pride in the kids who have made it possible. I hope I never join KU's enemies by thinking of ANY KU team as losers.
@HighEliteMajor I am still trying to get my head around your comment that you would start Jamari over Grimes! I know it arose out of a sense of Grime-y desperation, but I am thinking the sun rises in the west tomorrow.....
@dylans In contrast, on a cruise two years ago, the first group we met on board was a whole family of KSU fans. We were wearing C & B, and they were wearing purple, and we spent a couple of enjoyable hours with them prior to the cabins opening up.
We later saw one of the girls with a KU boyfriend whom we hadn't met. Maybe she made her family be nice for his sake, or maybe my wife is so sweet that they didn't go after me!
So, interesting juxtaposition in our last 2 games. We get motivated by Devonte before the game Saturday, and go out and crush TTex.
Go to Manhattan, and find out that they are motivated by Brannen Greene. And apparently they have figured out how to make virtually our entire team channel our inner Brannen and play as shitty as he did.
Who ever predicted BG as a key to a KU game in 2019?
@Crimsonorblue22 This may have been what you saw. The only comment about Brannen was actually late in the second half when I said the dunk with a minute left did not bother me.
Texas Hawk 10 said:
So Barry Brown with the dick move to end the game?
@Texas-Hawk-10 The issue is virtually impossible to solve because the NCAA does not have investigative authority over 3rd parties. Even if players were allowed to make money from their own fame, that doesn't address people who steer benefits to families independently.
Free agency in the pros shows us that there are few people, even those in 8-digit income brackets, who aren't willing to try to get more. The NCAA can't stop players' families and hangers-on from profiting and trying to influence a kid.
Solution? No freaking clue.
kjayhawks said:
We were basically down 2 starters friends and showed our youth at the guard spots. Let's take out some anger on OSU Saturday.
There is also a major bone to pick with OSU after their sweep last year, first in the HCBS era.
@jayhawkcsg You should yell at the TV earlier.
Sent with 2nd round pick for Reggie Bullock.
@BigBad Dunno. I haven't followed the Pistons since Marcus was there for a few games, I think.
Actually on Wikipedia already! Traded with a 2nd rd choice for Reggie Bullock. Says the Pistons are wanting to develop young talent, so he should play more.
I came back. Svi traded to Pistons today.
g'night from SC, y'all. 77 and sunny here tomorrow. Hope the sun rises nicely for you wherever you may be. After all, it is just a game.
A @$^##%##% frustrating game.
@approxinfinity He could never bear to part with enough to be an effective dealer.
@cragarhawk The good news if we do get sent to Zimbabwe, Silvio might find an Afican court to get an injunction allowing him to play.
@bskeet Bovine gestation is 9 months?
How many schools charge the court when they beat a team trailing them?
Okay, now THAT dunk I can agree is tacky!
@cragarhawk Too deep, if I recall! How to find enough minutes for the players?
Now, it is how to find the players for the minutes!
@Woodrow Dean Wade fully back makes them dangerous.
Dunk didn't bother me at all with a minute left and 7 pt lead.
Breaks my heart to see Silvio having to comfort DD. Guy has class.
Special trip and strip D by KSU.
Vick drop off special D.
@Crimsonorblue22 He got confused by the pregame rebounding drill.
Dedrick got onionized, I think.
Man, the choice tonight--watch our team acting like it can't play, or watch a whole chamber of politicians who can't govern.
That was our "stand around, watch DL, don't rebound, and foul for good measure" play
Why do KU rookies take 15 to 20 games before they stop running into people?
@dylans Maybe stop cussing Vick out?
Has Grimes been in this half?
Oddly, I still enjoy the Phillips 66 ads.
Vick offensive special number 3 zillion