Ok, I know and understand the rankings, but I'm talking about perception. And you understand how others outside of the Big12 might assume the Big12 is relatively weak if one school always wins the conference title.
rocketdog
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@Texas-Hawk-10 said:
@rocketdog It'll be more than 2 years until the Big 12 dies. It'll happen when the TV contract is out in about 8 years or so.
You're probably right, but I just can't see Oklahoma - which appears to be the most agitated about the current state of the Big12 - waiting 8 years to shake things up. You're right though, the TV deal complicates the whole mess. We'll see, but I don't think we know yet how we'll be consuming sports in the future, considering how quickly technology is changing.
@KUSTEVE said:
@jaybate-1.0 Sooooo....off the topic a bit, but your tag line mentions Wernher von Braun. Quite a fascinating fellow, wasn't he? So, where did he gain his knowledge that was light years ahead of his time???? Inquiring minds want to know...
von Braun sported the biggest paper clip of them all! Wasn't Wernher just reverse engineering the Foo Fighters reported in Europe in WW2?
@wissox said:
We will lose the conference some day.
Not if we stay in this conference! I give the Big12 two years before it gets mostly absorbed by the BIG4 conferences. I love the streak, but it kinda makes the Big12 look bad. Safe to assume that the "streak" would not be possible in the ACC or the B1G, but we'd always be a team to reckon with. Aren't we all a little tired of just beating up the same old tired teams of the Big12.
@Crimsonorblue22 Two steps forward? Heck, I'm ready for some can-can action! Maybe even a little hokey pokey...
It's a great question. But I'd be curious to know if Bill believes they can. I'm afraid he'd say no. But I also think it's too early to write off Bragg and Lucas. Bragg will likely have some great games and look average in others - not sure if or when the light comes on with teenagers when it comes to consistency. Lucas' minutes may be limited simply because of the inherent speed of this particular coach Self team. I'm awestruck at the speed and athleticism we're seeing and it's potential. Amazing really. But our bigs need to get healthy and step up. When that happens, watch out - this is a final four team. I'm going to enjoy the ride like most of us.
I know we're all hopeful that Devonte stays for his senior year, but realistically if he's projected to go in the first round - he's gone and he should leave.
Try Q39 on 39th street. Wood fired meats and everything made from scratch. Kinda trendy but excellent sauces and sides.
@Crimsonorblue22 Looks like 9:30CST.
@jaybate-1.0 said:
I hope they feel like Ned Beatty in Deliverance.
Cue the banjo.
In this instance, pretty sure they'll feel violated!
@nuleafjhawk
OH YEAH! To further demonstrate how little Wichita State means to me - I almost forget about their loss yesterday. What happened to the 35-0 days?
And people wonder why we don't schedule these clowns every year...
@jayballer54 Pretty good take on the game and potential of Diallo taking this team to a final four. Hard to not be excited now that he's here and looks ready - really ready!
@ajvan If you have ESPN3 and are blacked out, the other trick is this. Still works for me and I live in Lawrence. Haven't had cable for years, and I miss very few games. The "ESPN only" games I have to wait about an hour after to watch on ESPN3, but so far it's worked out pretty well. link text ↗
@jaybate-1.0 Retribution for their (NCAA) perception that KU drug their feet in the Cliff situation. Just how it looks and feels from my perspective.
Games like this on national TV concern me. It clearly hurts in recruiting when one sees how Self manages the talent he has. Self's myopia and hubris is frustrating to all that see this unfolding again, and it hurts me to feel this way because I really like, generally how coach Self represents our program, school and community...
But, he totally is. I think it's awesome. New Bedore column in LJW concerning Cheick Diallo and the NCAA. In the article, Self states:
“We’ve got to do our job as far as to create a situation in which the process moves in a more favorable direction toward Cheick, if in fact that’s possible, which we 100 percent believe it is. Yes it’s frustrating but at this point in time I don’t have to say anything publicly because that will happen. That’s going to happen. It won’t necessarily have to come from the University of Kansas or the athletic department, but it’ll happen. It can’t help but happen. At some point in time when you see a 6-foot-9-inch kid sitting with a coat and tie on at the end of the bench, every camera that we play at is going to focus and the announcers are going to talk about Cheick. That’s going to happen. That doesn’t mean we’re planting seeds. That’s a fact of the matter. Every game we play (in which he’s) not suited up that’s going to be a topic of conversation. It’s not like we have to do it. Trust me the media will be our mouthpiece without
@Statmachine
No problem, it made me think about what I wrote. By the way, I do appreciate reading your posts and the knowledge and insight you bring to the board. Keep up the good work.
@Statmachine said:
@rocketdog said:
Was this scrimmage the blue and red teams playing each other? If so, then 20+ three pointers from each squad doesn't seem like that much of an anomaly.
REALLY?
Well, okay. After I read the number 20 plus, out loud to myself, it is more than we're used to I suppose. But I meant what I said about letting em fly. I'd like to see a little less hook and a little more patience and let the kids redeem themselves - even if it means a loss or two early in the season.
@Statmachine said:
Don't get too excited about 44 3pt attempts. Not saying it will never happen again BUT Coach Self hasn't changed his mindset since last year.
Was this scrimmage the blue and red teams playing each other? If so, then 20+ three pointers from each squad doesn't seem like that much of an anomaly. I say, let the threes fly. When they're dropping, the more likely the bench can be utilized which should keep the team from being so worn out come tourney time. When they're not dropping, hell keep shooting em. After watching them force the ball inside last year with a team that simply was not built for that kind of battle, I want to see some offensive schemes designed to suit the team we actually put on the floor.
@ralster I feel 100% supportive of KU Ladies Basketball also. 100%!
Agreed. But don't forget the women's volleyball team!
@jayballer54 Lighten up Francis.
@jayballer54 Damn. That was a hard read to follow.
Anyone else see no. 6 Auburn's close call with FCS Jacksonville State? Seeing that actually made me feel a little bit better about our close loss to SDSU.
For me, it's the non-apology apology that really looks bad. Just own it and admit you were trying to be clever not realizing the backlash would be so embarrassing to the university. And where is Bill Snyder. How could he not know about the negative pub this brings to a program he's nurtured for several decades? I've always had a lot of respect for Snyder but unless he's too old or has been completely kept in the dark about the half time show, one would think that he'd have something to say considering they named the football stadium in his honor. Thought he had grandkids...
@Crimsonorblue22 Thanks, I forgot about that article on the Greene injury. Yeah, Jackson's injury was way worse, so I'm feeling a lot better about Greene coming back and maybe having a pretty decent year.
Several of you mentioned Greene missing from the photo, and it made me wonder about his injury. Does anyone recall what exactly his injury was? I'm sure it was fairly serious, and something to do with his hip. It's not a Bo Jackson type thing, is it? I mean, if it was, that would suck. Medical procedures have come a long way since Bo Jacksons career altering injury occurred, but he was never the same - better than most but never the same. Hoping Greene works his way back athletically with that deadly three killing zones...
@drgnslayr I've heard about KU's friction with local and regional AAU teams/coaches over the years. What's up with that? Politics? Dollar signs? Little column A? Little column B?
@DoubleDD I do remember hearing in the past, that Adidas offered a much better financial package, but forgot about how it included other sports. Seriously, I'm not complaining about Adidas and our affiliation with them, it's just a little frustrating seeing top talent, with an apparent strong KU lean, end up changing their minds late. What's really puzzling to me is when it's obvious ( at least to me - big time KU homer ) that they'd be much better off short term and long term at KU.
I'm aware of the contract KU has with Adidas but can some explain how we ended up with them and for how long KU is obligated to their brand. Seems to me there is a real shoe war that dominates basketball recruiting and Adidas ends up as one of the have-nots when it comes to the very best of the prime high school stars. I wonder sometimes what our rosters would look like had we been a Nike school for the last ten years. Don't get me wrong, coach has pulled in some really impressive classes and I always seem to love most of the kids he draws. Maybe I'm just being paranoid, but it feels like an embargo of top bigs has taken place.
http://www.kansascity.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/campus-corner/article28423282.html ↗
we better not miss on this kid? I'm not too concerned that he hasn't committed yet because that would have felt a little too Frankampish. Think I'd rather have him take his time and be comfortable with his choice. Not sure if Frankamp knew what he might be up against - competition wise - when he signed so early.
I like them. Looks like KU vs the World!
@HawksWin Always been a big Scott Pollard fan and heck yeah I'd love to see us have another KU guy come back to help the program they fell in love with. Kinda think he'd be a good recruiter too with that personality and he's got some credibility when it comes to talking about his experience in the league. I'm all in.
@VoyagingJayhawk
Youtube Altered History by Douglas Horne. Fairly credible researcher from what I can tell. The subject is fascinating and still disturbs me to this day....
Altered History is somewhat of a slog and will put most people to sleep, however I found it informative.
We can't hit a three - and they can't miss. Dang!
At half time, Fred convinced his guys they were playing the Jayhawks.
@VailHawk there you go. Wait. You don't really think the clowns are gonna pull this off? Magic is gone damnit.
It's working. No way they come back. This game was over at the half. The magic is gone. Brent said so. Just gotta keep a negative attitude. It's working!
I've given up on ISU winning this one for us. Lonnie's got himself a pretty good team. This is what veteran teams look like.
@jaybate 1.0 I rarely comment on the boards, but I read everything by everyone. And when I reached you're second paragraph, I had to look up and check to see if it was really you. My first thought was how happy this would make so many people on here and the timing was great. Thank you.
I do not know you, and that's ok, cause I much prefer to use my imagination when reading the posts by everyone. For some reason, I envision you as a cross between Winston Churchill and "The most interesting man in the world" guy. And I like that. Thank you.
I've always loved your take on the subjects discussed and the thoughts you provoke, and will never forget how masterful you can be when shucking down a would-be antagonist. Approx, I think you've just rounded out your class with this kid. Thank you and Merry Christmas to everyone.
This season, Im afraid, the Sherrontagon-O-gloom, Tyshawntagon, Elijahgon.... has hit its Naadir, running right into our Masonry. We have a habit of leaving Chalk-dust in our wake. Or shake (harlem).
That's good stuff ralster. The Jayhawks record in Manhattan since the early 80's is truly remarkable. I called in and told Jason Whitlock on his radio show in the mid 90's that it's no longer a rivalry when one team dominates the way we were dominating. He said I was crazy and of course it's a rivalry and tried to make my comments sound over the top. And we just kept winning at their place. Seems to confound all the laws of in-state rivalry... uh... laws.
Speaking of spokes, I recently noticed John Robic was an assistant at Kentucky. He was an assistant for Brown from 86'-88'. Funny when I looked up his bio on a UK site, they failed to mention his time at KU and being a part of a National Championship.
I think it should come down to Self or Izzo because I can't stand Boeheim, and while I can respect Pops, he sure can be wet blanket. Does anyone else remember Popovich being on the bench at KU when Larry Brown was here. Seems he was here for one year, but I can't find anything to confirm that.
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