@approxinfinity I think this will need to be a bigger class than last year. Plus the timing of the FBI stuff and rumors swirling hurt a lot. 2018 was a big class when needed, 20 needs to be big and typically Bill does his best work in these spots.
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Good idea @Kcmatt7
And let's try to not post in/clutter this thread. The OP should be right there when opened. If you have suggestion either message me or discuss in the recruiting thread.
Commits
Tyon Grant-Foster UNRANKED JUCO 6'7'' G/Wing FROM KC https://247sports.com/Player/Tyon-Grant-Foster-46093992/# ↗
Gethro Muscadin 3-4* 6'10'' C from HAITI https://247sports.com/player/gethro-muscadin-46057375/ ↗
Latrell Jossell UNRANKED 5'9'' G from TEXAS https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2020/latrell-jossell-213166 ↗ No 247 profile yet.
Bryce Thompson 5* 6'5'' G from OK https://247sports.com/player/bryce-thompson-46040037/ ↗
Also I am sure we are still recruiting Scottie Barnes and some others super hard or something, but I am not listing players KU has absolutely no chance to get.
July 16 Update Notes: Harris committed and joined the 2019 class so he was removed. Cam'ron Fletcher cut to 5 and KU didn't make it so he was removed.
Aug 27 Update: Moved Caleb Love down to big target. Removed Daishen Nix who committed to UCLA. Removed RJ Davis and Josh Hall who appear to be trending in other directions. Added Javonte Brown-Ferguson, Moses Moody and JT Thor since he reclassified.
Sept 27 Update:
Kcmatt7 said:
dylans said:
@BShark Mason 76, Graham 36. Seems to be the sweet spot.
Both had major KU bumps.
Also this. 24/7 shows national ranking history thankfully. When KU started recruiting Graham he was ranked #196.
30-39
2017
Still in school: Silvio, John Petty (barely), Paul Scruggs, Chaundee Brown, Ethan Thompson
Gone: Jalek Felton, SGA, Lindell Wigginton, Brandon Randolph, Daniel Gafford
2016
SR: Cassius Winston, Alterique Gilbert, Udoka
Left after JR year: Tyus Battle, Kyle Guy
Left before that: Zach Collins, Lauri Markannen
LOL: Cunliffe, Javin DeLaurier
The 2017 guys could still leave before their senior year of course. I bet at a minimum Silvio does. It's a crapshoot.
@dylans Mostly posting this as a reminder to myself for later since I'm about to go to sleep.
Interesting range of 30-80. I'm curious now how many kids in that range do stay 3-4 years. I'll do breakdowns tomorrow over the last few classes that apply (so starting with 2017) and tackling each group of 10 (30-39, 40-49 etc) and seeing the percentages. My gut instinct would be not a lot in the 30-50 range are there 4 years.
dylans said:
Reclassifying to redshirt is kinda funny. Hurry up and wait.
Better to have him in Lawrence than Wichita.
Crimsonorblue22 said:
I guess I’ll trust u guys, seems like he was a back up and didn’t play much??
He played a lot look at the box scores. Great glue guard think Brady or Russ.
BeddieKU23 said:
Harris now shows as a 4 star prospect on 247, 107 overall
Wow got the KU bump before even committing smh
Great news.
Sounds like jayballer is torn on this kid. He's gonna wait and watch his offers blow up but also not worthy of the 13th scholarship. Really makes you think. :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:
Oh hey said PG was at this AAU game interesting
He's a guy that Bill will play more than fans think he should.
Crimsonorblue22 said:
@approxinfinity u mean till end of game? I didn’t see much of him either but I was in and out. Didn’t know til end he was guy in head band. Nothing impressive to me🤔
He reminds me of a point guard who I am not gonna name but @HighEliteMajor remembers super fondly. Feeds the post like a boss.
Apparently Mane is eligible for the 2020 draft. Knowing that, I'd stay away.
@FarmerJayhawk Agree. Corey Evans posted contradictory info with KK. Honestly, might make me feel even better about our chances LOL.
This is from the Arkansas board so tifwiw but they mostly believe KU is the leader for KK Robinson.
Thread link but it's VIP: https://247sports.com/college/arkansas/board/59414/Contents/kk-robinson--133591714/ ↗
Mokan is in the finals at Peach Jam.
@justanotherfan The bright side is last year's team with Doke was really damn good even if Lawson and Doke rarely both had a good game together.
I have a lot of the same line-up and fit concerns. Need to see how Self ends up playing it.
This is from Bossi
THE EYE OPENER
DAJUAN HARRIS
Why him?: MoKan Elite has made what is becoming an annual trip to the quarterfinals at the Peach Jam and the jet quick passer and floor general had an awful lot to do with it. He's as good a passer as there is in the country and he proved to be a legit high major option with his ability to lead, control pace, defend at the point of attack and ultimately lead his team to a win. This guy doesn't care about stats, he just cares about winning.
Recruitment: Signed with Missouri State in the class of 2019 but has reopened his recruitment and mentioned interest from Missouri and Texas with a Kansas offer.
Looking at Peach Jam box scores 4 of the 6 Mokan games are up
Dajuan Harris has had these stat lines PTS AST REB STL
4/7/2/2 2-4 shooting
13/10/9/3 5-10 shooting
4/6/2/1 on 1-2 shooting
5/8/4/3 on 2-5 shooting
Definitely seems like a guy that is pass first and really picks his spots to actually shoot. 31 AST vs 10 turnovers.
Mokan won this morning advancing to the semi-finals, that box score isn't up on their site yet.
So Bill is 3-4 vs Izzo since coming to KU after starting 0-3. Interesting.
@FarmerJayhawk Avoid the death penalty and land 2 out of the 4 you mentioned and KU will be really good again.
@KUSTEVE Just bracing for impact from HEM.
KUSTEVE said:
When they put LL in the starting lineup his junior year, we went 17-1 with him in the lineup. Many fans were hollering about it, but it proved to be the best move by far.
Here we go again.
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@FarmerJayhawk Good to hear. Seems like the staff is taking Thompson very seriously and not banking on the connection.
Good info on Harris. Is the plan still to announce next week?
bcjayhawk said:
Notwithstanding what others thought and said during his tenure, I loved LL. He wasn't the most talented nor the most athletic, but his hear is trophy-worthy.
3* but 5 :heart:
Woodrow said:
Seems like those are the only 2 top 20 players they have a legit shot at...
Isaiah Todd.
Caleb Love could end up top 20 and KU has a shot there.
nuleafjhawk said:
Very nice letter!! LL just elevated a few notches on my favorite Jayhawks list.
As a guy, he's always been near the top for me. He gave it his all he was just limited athletically.
Oddly, I found a letter from a OAD - it's sentiments are pretty similar:
Deer fans of wutevah skool it was that i was forsed to uttend for one year afore i kood leaf and make muh millyuns,
Tank yoo fore cheering for ME. MY stutisticks was purty good that year (but i held back so i ditnt git hurt and loose a lot of money). It was fun. Sometimes i look back and think fond memories of when i uttendid ...........what skool was dat again?..........um.....there was lots of purdy girls, lots of free stuff, no nashunal champyunship.....oh well - dont matter - i gots muh NBA contract and i is LOADED now. Yay ME.
Hard to argue with it.
FarmerJayhawk said:
Not sure if it's breaking news, but KU is in a good spot with Isaiah Todd. Self did an in-home over the summer and Todd will visit KU in the fall. Look out below!!
Worth it.
Great move. Get that cheddar while you can.
NC State, officially.
@FarmerJayhawk Didn't see this, thanks.
@rockchalkwyo Just word of mouth. Also noticed back when and after Braun committed to us that he and Harris engaged with each other a lot on twitter. I then looked into Harris at the time and saw he was committed to Missouri State so I didn't think he would enter the equation for KU.
BeddieKU23 said:
I can live with those qualities. I'm not jumping up and down seeing that video but if he's improved a bunch from that, I'd rather use the scholarship then hold it. We're one Dotson injury from the sky is falling.
Yep. Plus it seems he is really close with CB. Would be the third MoKan kid recently after none for a long time.
I think he is firmly a RS guy but better to get him on campus and in the KU/Self program for a year than stash him at Sunrise. Like even if Dot gets injured (PLZ NO) I don't think he would play next year.
BeddieKU23 said:
Oh this is a fun one.
Walker denies interest in playing overseas this year but we all know how denials go. Probably a lot of truth to him not having the grades to stay home and enroll somewhere.
So done with him already. W/e
BeddieKU23 said:
Kcmatt7 said:
Video posted here was from last March.
To me, he looks like he has decent arm length for his size. He finishes well in the lane with both hands. He absolutely can jump. In one of the newer videos he dunks from almost being flat footed.
I'd also rather get another PG in here now instead of hoping we land a big name next season and end up settling for someone almost exactly like him to be the backup next year. Get someone in now that can learn the system for a full season. Who's to say he won't push McBride out of the backup role? AND literally the worst case scenario is that he gets here, realizes he doesn't belong, and transfers out. This is a no lose situation from my point of view.
You really hit on the knoggin here. No risk. Get the guy in if he wants and see what he's made of. In today's landscape if he doesn't fit he'll move on
The word you always see on him is "tough", "leader" and "winner". Makes others better etc...
FarmerJayhawk said:
I also think there’s a chance he reclassifies back to 2019 later this summer and we RS him.
Later this summer meaning next week from the looks of it. :eyes:
jayballer73 said:
Didn't really see a lot here that just gave me that Wow factor - -nothing special , a lot of lay ups. - -only seen a couple of out side J's he is decent from this tape but nothing that blows me away.
He's a guy you redshirt that is a pain in the ass for other teams as a JR/SR. Also friends with Braun I believe.
So like, I mean, he pinned the KU offer tweet. Seems dece.
@BigBad and the time Bill had multiple long term NBA guys he won a ring.
No way is he 25. But I would agree he is likely older than stated.
Kcmatt7 said:
Frank should seriously consider his overseas options now. He’s just got so many limitations
Yeah I get wanting to make it in the NBA but he could be a stud overseas. I think defense is the biggest issue. His minutes went down by a lot year two. :/
@Texas-Hawk-10 That was my take on it as well. Wanted to mention it for those interested since I saw it pop up.
Houston announced his transfer, mentioned sitting out a year so I guess he didn't get his waiver request.
Don't lose any fingers ;)