Crimsonorblue22 said:
I'm never ever going to believe preseason polls or what others tell me about our players, til they actually play. False hope, I had to much.
How good is this team with Doke and Silvio though? Even just Doke healthy all year and this team is a 1 seed imo.
kjayhawks said:
Wonder if KSU has already started making DVDs
Already on shelves at Dillons. Decade of Dominance: How KSU Beat KU for 10+ years...
loool
My guess right now on critical players.
Back: Dotson, Grimes, Doke
Gone: Dedric
Without Doke. Pretty much says it all.
Woodrow said:
I mean Mitch looks lackadaisical out there. That never happens.
Yeah this game has been over.
Beating a dead horse but KU is now
7-21 2-11
....
This KU team just can't shoot.
lol
Slap on the wrist. Lol.
Woodrow said:
Interesting that Duke is not trying to move in on guys they have not recruited at all so late in the game.
I assume you meant now instead of the first not.
That said they are Duke and they need more guys for next year so it makes a ton of sense. Just make a power play and bid enough.
BeddieKU23 said:
Agree. Stanley doesn't move the needle with the guys we have already signed. He's an electric athlete but his all around games wouldn't upgrade the team next season. If Grimes does return that's huge if he continues on this improved play he's shown the last two games
nod, nod
He'd be a bench guy and I don't think he is going anywhere to come off the bench.
Agbaji being a total baller changed the need to recruit a wing imo. Dotson, Grimes, Garrett and Agbaji are all minute eaters assuming all are back next year.
FarmerJayhawk said:
Duke getting involved with Cassius Stanley. I think KU has been out of this one for awhile. I think they're banking on Grimes coming back.
Good.
Kcmatt7 said:
The WVU game chaps my ass still.
This is the loss that cost KU the league.
@BeddieKU23 Indeed. We can hang a recruiting banner. "Got a visit from RJ Hampton".
wissox said:
No shame in finishing 2nd to a team that cleaned our clocks two weeks ago. But I’d rather not finish 2nd to kstate. Kind of interesting that bracketology has us as a 3 and 1st place kst as a six.
KU has huge non-con wins. They were with Doke but they still count. KU w/o Doke all year probably loses to Tenn and MSU at a minimum.
I'm fine with Tech winning the league tbh. Just not KSU.
@Woodrow People point to his percentage but it's because he generally only takes wide open looks.
BeddieKU23 said:
TCU sucks
They lost at home to KU for crying out loud!
WOW. Boynton dropping huge bombs.
@kjayhawks Even the refs can't fix this one.
Mich ST lost to Indiana.
UK getting waxed by Tenn.
ISU is now dead.
My grades for the game
Dedric: A solid A. Sure he got blocked a couple times but that is to be expected and overall a really good game for him. 20/15 on 45% shooting and lived at the line with a 9-9 performance there.
Dave: C. Good energy but 1-4 from the floor.
Agbaji: B-. 3-8 from 3 with 5 boards, 2 assists a block and no turnovers. Solid play overall but 0-2 from 2 and almost blew the game.
Grimes: A. His best game of the year perhaps? 50% from 2 and 4-7 from 3. Engaged on both ends. Grabbed rebounds, had some really nice passes and tried defensively.
Dotson: D. Thought about an F here. 2-10 from the floor, more turnovers than assists. Saddled with foul trouble as well but still played tough D.
Mitch: B. Hard to ask for more out of Mitch.
Chuck: C. Didn't take a shot!
KJ: C. Didn't do much either way.
Garrett: B. Good effort out of him, though no doubt he hurt the offense.
Hawk8086 said:
Clones getting their butts kicked in Austin.
No kidding, I was just opening this thread to post a link.
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/boxscore?gameId=401083423 ↗
Hawk8086 said:
@Gorilla72 I would have to watch the last 4 again. I would say probably the law of averages as they made some really tough shots throughout the game.
It was a mix to be sure. KU defended pretty well but of course Waters missed a wide open look.
In general KU's defense was pretty okay today. OSU hit a lot of guarded shots, step back midrange etc...
@kjayhawks Indeed. MUCH better KU teams have lost there.
justanotherfan said:
BShark said:
There's a lot of "he shouldn't have gone to Kansas, Self sucks" in that article from anonymous coaches. :/
Vecenie's wrap-up is really good.
Self is an excellent college coach. That's well documented.
Self also is not particularly good at developing NBA players. Also well documented.
Self does his best work with players that are good to great college players (the Perry Ellis types) that will be in school for four years, learn the system, etc. He's not as adept with the OADs. We all know this. That should not be a surprise to any of us.
Self is a great coach. He is not great at developing NBA talent.
In general I agree but I don't think Grimes would be setting the world on fire at Marquette or UK.
I'm all for Self targetting more 3-4 year guys. Dotson and McCormack were great pick-ups.
Effort again was good today. Late in the game he had a big time rake out of the ball when OSU was going in for a lay-up.
Ochai lost his mind I can't believe Waters missed.
I BEEEEEELIEEEEEEEEEVE
DCHawker said:
Given how important this game is and how depleted they are, the last 5-6 minutes are probably the worst stretch of the season....
Sad to say but it is true. OSU guys want it more.
BeddieKU23 said:
This was expected. Only BIFM had won here in a decade
Literally losing the walk-ons.
OSU on a 19-7 run...
Garrett and Chuck during crunch time lol
YOU HAVE TO FINISH THAT.
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Verified account @jessenewell
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Oklahoma State is:
4/11 at the rim (36%)
8/16 from mid-range (50%)
11/24 from three (46%)
Chucky nooo
Just when you think this team has it rolling they go "nahhhh".
Not going to win any game shooting 33% from the field and 25% from three.
DanR said:
I think we're fine too. If we just made the layups we'd be up 10.
OSU is 7/14 from three. We're 3/12.
OSU gets the dark end of the court second half
Fingers crossed. Can't lose this one.
tundrahok said:
Dotson has 2 fouls and sat 7 minutes the first half. His +/- is +3. Everybody else's is negative. We can't really play without him.
Yep, he is crucial.
midrange trash
sure why not
lol at that garbage make
Uhhhh Dedric
BeddieKU23 said:
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
Oklahoma St is making a lot of tough jumpshots. I don't think they can sustain it.
I hope not
So many guarded and janky threes and 4/8 on midrange shots as well. I can live with it they will start to miss especially later in the game when they get tired due to their short rotation.