Oh they won't fire him, I just think their board of regents meeting is hilarious.
BShark
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It's racist.
If not for the legacy aspect, I'm not sure Duke would have went for him. But since they did, Duke ranking bump and whatnot.
BeddieKU23 said:
ESPN/Nike has Dedric on 2nd team All American. You'll have a good laugh at their 5.
CBS has Dedric 1st team
Rothstein has SAGBALLS Konate first team over Dedric. I'm laughing so hard it hurts.
From Hillkick on the Phog, typically has good info.
"I havent spoken to my source as to why he flipped to Nova, but I can speak to why Kansas was in the top 2 and why since last year, we’ve seemed to be his second choice:
Why KU was in the mix:
Self
Loves the atmosphere, program
Family
(Adidas a non-issue....for the record, he’s on a Under Armour AAU team, but Goolsby runs the cleanest AAU program in the sport)
Why we fell to 2nd:
Our recent history of loading up on talented bigs (DeSousa, McCormick, D Lawson, K Lawson, Azu)
Leading for a similar player (Hurt)
UNC (and Nova) are marquee programs but unlike KU/Duke/UK, are less likely to land one and done types that will take over program
A little itch to get away. Not in a bratty way way like Bol Bol, but in a life growing way
JRE is a very polite, cool kid, who loves KU and was upfront with the staff that he wasn’t a slam dunk commit. It’s about his personal beliefs about playing early, a better chance at having a large role on O and experiencing life on his own before he’s a professional. "
BeddieKU23 said:
BShark said:
Kcmatt7 said:
Bill needs to be talking to Dante's handler and start talking reclass already. Get him here and eligible however you have to do it.
SWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSH
Not getting Dante unfortunately.
Agreed, he's as likely as Wiseman.
BeddieKU23 said:
Take our lumps now, ride out the storm and see what's available in the spring. The news cycle will be on someone else by that point.
It's a good thing the 2019 class wasn't chalk full of stars. KU needs to find at least two front court options that can contribute next year. Maybe 1 recruit, 1 transfer who knows.
I think we are still in a good spot for Zeke. He visited twice in two weeks. Selling him a spot is easier without JRE in the picture
Yeah, might have to add a grad transfer, or play some small ball. But Zeke + a good grad transfer probably means a more traditional line-up again.
Agree on the 2019 class.
Kcmatt7 said:
Bill needs to be talking to Dante's handler and start talking reclass already. Get him here and eligible however you have to do it.
SWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSH
Not getting Dante unfortunately.
@KUSTEVE your Shockers beat a small Christian D2 school 75-64 last night. 10 minutes in it was 15-15. Might be a tough year for your boys.
News will come "soon". Billy Preston soon. :/
Zeke is our absolute best hope among the names KU is involved with now. Other than that, KU will get involved with guys that aren't even on the radar right now I would bet.
Really confident KU isn't getting Matt Hurt either.
Crimsonorblue22 said:
@BShark just him and his mom?
There's almost always more than two people with a recruit's circle. Coaches etc...
Crimsonorblue22 said:
@dylans if that's all it is?
It's most of it yes. Some people in his circle aren't all that realistic about his position.
It's not fucking happening.
jayballer73 said:
@BShark well IF their not then maybe he follows his brothers foot steps
I think there is a good chance if KU gets serious with him. Otherwise Ole Miss/Georgia Tech appear to be the favorites.
jayballer73 said:
BShark said:
jayballer73 said:
Kcmatt7 said:
@BShark Lol such a tease. I hope he just gets it over with in the next week or two though.
who are we talking about here buddy? - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Stanley.
OH ok gotcha. - -wonder if he is committing early or spring?
Early.
Kcmatt7 said:
BShark said:
jayballer73 said:
@BShark I think Chandler commit's to Penny
Not sure Memphis is recruiting him that much actually.
Which probably says a lot about him... If we aren't and if Memphis isn't, that's a sign.
I think KU could quickly get to the point where Chandler is a good option though.
jayballer73 said:
@BShark I think Chandler commit's to Penny
Not sure Memphis is recruiting him that much actually.
jayballer73 said:
Kcmatt7 said:
@BShark Lol such a tease. I hope he just gets it over with in the next week or two though.
who are we talking about here buddy? - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Stanley.
@Kcmatt7 I really want UK to pound Duke lol.
Duke isn't going to lose Zion.
jayballer73 said:
BShark said:
:eyes:
so straight up my friend no Bullshit - -shootin straight from the hip. - -What do you think our chances are with Stanley - -no hem hawin around - -just straight out. -- or for that matter how does anyone else feel in reality what our chances a re?
Pretty good.
jayballer73 said:
BShark said:
@jayballer73 Nnaji is a better long term prospect but JRE is a better basketball player right now.
oh my bad thought I had heard/read that Nnaji was actually the better athlete
You'd be correct. Part of Nnaji being a better long term prospect is his athleticism.
Bear in mind, Dedric is a terrible athlete (by freak standards) but an amazing basketball player.
@jayballer73 Nnaji is a better long term prospect but JRE is a better basketball player right now.
Imagine if Stanley did a video and said "we good coach Self?" and committed to KU.
All fiction.
Kcmatt7 said:
@BShark Lol such a tease. I hope he just gets it over with in the next week or two though.
Looking more and more like he will commit before the early signing period.
Such madness. Twitter is wild right now.
BeddieKU23 said:
Cassius Stanley on why he picked KU.
"Self sold me on playing Center. I know I'm a wing/guard but he said Udoka Azubuike is going pro after the season I really see myself impacting the team most at Center".
All fun. No Malice of course
ded
:eyes:
Gonzaga doesn't belong in the CHAMPIONS Classic.
Precious Achiuwa will not sign in the early period per Evan Daniels. He might be a G-League candidate tbh.
Kcmatt7 said:
Get it over with. At least that means the first domino has fallen. I'm sure Nnaji will be next.
Agree. Need to find out if Chandler should be recruited more seriously. JRE popping now helps that.
JRE may announce for Nova as early as today apparently.
@Crimsonorblue22 :shrug: Nothing to do about it. If he bought the kool-aid enough to believe he will play some wing at Nova what can you do? Self/KU will bounce back and field a competitive team next year.
KU has a really good shot at Stanley because of his dad, imo @jayballer73
Bruce is definitely sharpening that ax. Bringing in an unranked 2019 SG for a visit. Name is Goodnews Kpegeol. If KSU offers on his visit, it would be his best offer by a mile.
BeddieKU23 said:
Evan and Brian with the dagger CB's
To be clear for anyone wondering, Evan has a 95% success rate because he only puts in his pick when it's DONE.
justanotherfan said:
Chiefs have the benefit of having lots of different ways to hurt you offensively, moreso than any Chiefs team I've ever seen.
They can just run it and would probably be an average offense with Hunt and Ware pounding defenses. It wouldn't be exciting, but a run heavy Chiefs offense would not be bad.
They could go to the other extreme and just throw all the time and would have a top 7 offense with all of their receiving weapons.
Mixing the two is deadly.
Nobody can stop Hunt, Kelce, Hill and Watkins all the time. Maybe you can bottle up two of them, or maybe even three. But you lock up on Kelce and Hill in the pass game and Watkins just gashes you. Play back and Hunt runs wild. Play up and Hill and Kelce rip off big chunks down the seam or deep down the field.
If the Chiefs defense can just be top 20, they are a potential Super Bowl champion.
Well said.
This is what we saw against Denver. They tried to cover Watkins with a LB to take away other options, the results were disastrous for them. The offense kind of turned a bit when Hill got a bit nicked up plus the Chiefs started coasting. Really hoping it's nothing serious with Hill.
JAYBATE'S BAAAAAACK. Oh wait. :(
Also worth noting that Lula da Silva was going to win, and was thrown in jail on bullshit charges, put in solitary confinement and no one has access to even talk to him.
This was a truly awful result. Humanity as a whole was worse for it. I know people in Brazil and I am genuinely concerned for them. It was already hard enough for LGBT there...
It was a joke, for effect. I didn't mean ACTUAL cages.
Anyway, I have seen some videos where ICE has arrested ACTUAL US CITIZENS just because they were Mexican/speaking Spanish, that pisses me off.
Now, if we want to blame Self, I think that's a conversation worth having. ESPECIALLY the Diallo year.
Crimsonorblue22 said:
@BShark we can't lose another game like the Oregon game. Great kid, but.....
My point was that there were other players, highly ranked, on all those teams that were supposed to start. No one was predicting Bragg would be a bust and you can never predict injuries like Doke. The rosters had plenty of bigs, the guy taking the 12/13th scholarship is never going to be a world beater.
@FarmerJayhawk KSU people were acting like their class is done. If they are adding Samuel potentially, I guess Bruce is sharpening his axe on a currently unsuspecting kid.
I'm going to have to agree with @mayjay it doesn't hurt to have a Landen Lucas around. Mitch is essentially another Lucas level player. The problem is if they have to start. Keep in mind the plan was NEVER for Lucas to start. Not one single year in his time at KU.
Anyway, Self will find some at least half-real guys, plus the returning roster should be decent. I'm not worried about next year as things currently stand.
Let's look at other bigs in years Lucas got starts
SO year: Perry, Cliff, Jamari, Hunter
JR year: Perry, Diallo, Bragg, Jamari, Hunter
SR year: Doke, Bragg, Coleby and I guess Mitch but he wasn't expected to be a factor
HighEliteMajor said:
@BeddieKU23 Wow, I never heard that on Preston .. that he was never deemed eligible by the NCCA. Why would we have played him in the MU thing then? That really doesn't add up to me. Why would the car thing be used as cover? Why do we need dishonest "cover?"
I don't think KU is clear. It goes to the knowledge of the payment to Preston (his mom, or whoever). If KU coaches knew of the payment, presumably didn't tell the Administration (AD), then a question arose, everyone then did a pow wow and concluded to hold him out, and we held him out, that doesn't clear the coaches.
He was cleared in one aspect but not another. I don't remember the details. Maybe @FarmerJayhawk could chime in here please?
jayballer73 said:
Man it's starting to get really depressing looking here for any 'thing positive on recruiting. I mean I know you guys are just posting things you have read and heard. - I think the reason it's so depressing to think we are losing recruits that we all thought we were sitting good on
ONCE just ONCE I would like to be able to see something positive on our recruiting the recruits. - -Looks like we are losing to Nova on JRE , and that absolutely sucks. -- I just think we have lost Hurt , nothing solid but something is tellin me we have lost him - - - -I know it was crazy maybe to even think in the remotest - -crazy I know about even having a chance with Stanley Yet that was what I was thinking - -now it look more and more he IS NOT leaving the Coast , although I think someone here was mentioning from an article they had read about his visit to UCLA made it pretty official we had lost him
That article didn't say that to me , in that article his dad STILL had some pretty good things about KU and Coach Self - -but yet I don't think he is coming , Soooo that leaves us with Zeke. Now I fill confident about him yet even with him I've been hearing about Sweattie boy and Arizona - this could turn into a really sucky year. - -like I said ONCE please SOMEONE deliver me some good news on the recruiting front. - - see I'm depressed now lol. ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Something positive: I really like the addition of McBride. Dude is a BUCKET. Great shooter just needs some time to get stronger in the program. Should be a very nice 4 year guy.
If Self closes this class with Nnaji, Hurt and Stanley that would be pretty hot.
Stanley will be a tough pull, but doable. His dad sure seems to love Bill Self.
I think Purdue might actually be a bigger threat than Arizona for Zeke.
Too early to really tell with Hurt. Still hasn't taken any OVs.
Kcmatt7 said:
Or, better, I'd love for him to land here, roll up to AFH in his brand new Rolls Royce plastered with Adidas stickers and half of the fanbase act totally oblivious as to why he landed in Lawrence. You know, normal KU basketball things.
Kcmatt7 said:
2019 went from a class "we were in deep with" to what looks like could end up being Bill's worst class in his entire time here at KU.
Don't care what anyone says, FBI stuff hurt.
If you use twitter and don't follow Slater, I'd fix that.