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Rutgers and KU, a CLASH OF TITANS.

Kcmatt7 said:

Bill has typically driven lesser teams into the ground.

My favorite pick is Duke. I think Vegas is overreacting to their QB going down. And just how bad Baylor is.

This KSU team is REALLY BAD AND SLOW though. And lacks a good QB.

Yeah, big caveat there on Fisher. IF he can stay healthy. ISU having two guys that should be first and second team and THT speaks to their talent. We are going to find out if Prohm is a goober this year imo.

Brown and Wade definitely feel like locks. Sneed is a DUDE too but other than that KSU is mostly replacement level players. In fact I think Sneed will add just as much value to their team as Brown. Brown has more name recognition at this point though.

@KirkIsMyHinrich That combination for 1st and 2nd team definitely looks correct. I'd pretty much bet on those ten.

I'm going to go out on a limb

All Big 12

Brown

Wigginton

Grimes

Wade

Dedric

POY Dedric

DPOY Konate

@BeddieKU23 I think it's a good move for him, especially if he wants to end up at a bigger program like KU. The extra year of development can help a lot.

KUSTEVE said:

@BShark If it was just Charlie against his man, and they were the only two on the court, you might have a point. But, he has a front line that is the best in the nation. And for what we had on the perimeter defensively last year, except for Marcus, he can't be any worse.

Overall team defense should be good. Charlie individually will not be. His offensive spark could be needed at times. I'm definitely not saying he should get 0 minutes.

@JayHawkFanToo So basically it's going to hurt player exposure by trying to regionalize things more. It won't impact top players.

JayHawkFanToo said:

@BShark

Don't those West Coast players tend to stay in the West Coast? I see UCLA, USC, Arizona and Arizona State are recruiting him.

He has a final 6.

Arizona, Kansas, Oregon, Texas, UCLA and USC

And it's believed the 4 main players are USC (favorite), KU, UT and Oregon. UCLA has three commits that are guards/wings.

The new rules are absolutely terrible for lower to mid level prospects.

BeddieKU23 said:

BShark said:

BeddieKU23 said:

@BShark

I believe Ole Miss is on him as well right?

Yes and Florida.

I still believe if KU wants him and pushes for a commitment, he ends up in Lawrence.

The next few months should be interesting to see how things unfold.

Indeed. KU is circling back around to a lot of recruits I thought they quit recruiting like Stanley and Achiuwa.

BeddieKU23 said:

I'd assume Stanley's is official. Good job Self!

No way a recruit of his stature is paying his own way. I added him to officials based on a Shay article saying it is an official after searching on twitter.

Also found this GEM: 🐦 View Tweet

Indiana isn't even recruiting him, maybe someone should tell him lmao.

BeddieKU23 said:

@BShark

I believe Ole Miss is on him as well right?

Yes and Florida.

I still believe if KU wants him and pushes for a commitment, he ends up in Lawrence.

Woodrow said:

Cassisus Stanley is making a visit for Late Night.

Edited in to OP. Thanks.

BeddieKU23 said:

Chandler Lawson visiting Georgia Tech on Oct 5th

I thought I replied to this already but my phone must have dropped it's connection when I hit submit...

Anyway I think GT could be his fallback school if Memphis and KU pass. I hope he ends up at KU though, for reasons I have already mentioned.

BeddieKU23 said:

Braun to unofficial for Late Night. Also likely to official in October

I hope he doesn't become a necessary take.

Waiting until Spring is a great and smart move for the kids but I'm glad that a couple of KU's major targets appear to be eyeing fall decisions.

I'm not remotely worried about Hurt or this class in general yet. Now if we start seeing a string of misses then I might get some 2017 flashbacks. The staff definitely appears to be casting a wide net.

I'd drop an ang3l level bet on this. :O I don't see Nike letting him get away. Feels like to me KU coaches have been visiting a lot of kids they have almost no chance at.

Stanley fills a huge need and would be a great addition though.

FarmerJayhawk said:

KU going to see Cassius Stanley. They’re really a player here.

I really doubt it.

Texas Hawk 10 said:

Kliff Kingsbury is his OC, Littrell is going to end up replacing Kingsbury at Tech if they falter again this season.

Well, this is a much better job than KU so it makes sense.

BeddieKU23 said:

@BShark

Not only that I think Jones wants to land somewhere he can start as a freshman. The two visits he's scheduled (FSU, Cuse) have that path for him. FSU pushed for a commitment from him because they need bigs. My friend says Cuse is giving him a similar pitch. KU is in this, its just going to be a matter of how the pieces fall on the board when he's ready to decide. I hope we get him on campus I do see this one as a wildcard if they do

Interesting. I wouldn't hate landing Jones and missing one of Hurt or JRE one bit.

BeddieKU23 said:

Achiuwa is one of my favorite's in the class. His best basketball is ahead of him and his ranking could actually be underselling how good he's going to be down the road. Long-term I think he's a top 5 player in this class. He has the size and physicality that fits the new era of the NBA.

At KU he could play multiple positions on both sides which is scary at his size. He's very good around the rim. He can make perimeter shots. I hope he doesn't land somewhere KU has to play him. I'm not expecting he leaves the east..

He is freakishly good.

Kai Jones is too, I just fear KU got involved too late there...

Woodrow said:

@FarmerJayhawk Really. I thought that shipped had sailed.

Well, he isn't coming to KU.

@Crimsonorblue22 Tigers. Stripes.

And for the record I'm not advocating the Chiefs trade him because of it.

Only jaybate, rappers and potheads know the TRUTHS about America and the world.

An actual private oligarchy and NWO drop. This is peak insanity errr JB.

Edit: I'll stop now this was just too juicy!

"mind control matrix"

lmao

Updated list with Bryce Thompson

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Kcmatt7 said:

@BShark Do you actually, truly, believe Kelce, Tyreek and Peters are all in the same boat?

Obviously not identical situations. Kelce is a total hothead though and Tyreek is a woman beater which is worse than anything with Peters and it's not close.

JayHawkFanToo said:

Here is an interesting question in view of how everybody seems to have OU at the bottom. In spite of his big numbers, was Trae Young a net positive or a net negative to the program? By catering to one player to the detriment of the team, did Lon Kruger damaged his career and coaching reputation?

Huge net negative.

@Crimsonorblue22 Um...what? lol

nuleafjhawk said:

@wrwlumpy What do we have to do to get you banned from this site?

What is this about?

But Tyreek and Kelce are okay? Got it Chiefs staff.

A bag of peanuts? I'd prefer the additional year of service.

nuleafjhawk said:

He's a punk. Should have got rid of him after the first game.

lol

KUSTEVE said:

His defense will be just fine.

Don't do this to yourself.

BeddieKU23 said:

@BShark

At this point I would expect McBride ends up in the Top 100 especially if he signs with KU.. SOP for recruiting services LOL.

If Braun is the shooter he looks on video I can see why he's that high. at 6'6 he won't be over-matched.

You aren't wrong about that. I do think he is legitimately good though and was underranked big time because of his previous AAU situation that I mentioned before (insanely stacked team). I believe he would be a great fit to continue the 4 year developmental guard thing KU has been great at.

BeddieKU23 said:

Rivals had an update to 2019 rankings.

Primary Targets

Hurt#6, JRE #10, Williamson #34, McBride #110 (HUGE jump)

Others Targets

Wiseman #2, Anthony, #3, Achiuwa #8, Green #11, Watford #16, Cockburn #30, Stanley #33, Nnaji #37, Quinones #46, Walker #77, Jones #79, Lawson #88, Braun #113

I wonder who said McBride was going to end up in the top 100? :thinking: :thinking: :thinking: Still not quite there yet, but there is time.

A bit surprised by Braun, though he does have okay athleticism.

Markese Jacobs is now #125, down 33 spots.

Big jumps for Walker and Jones.

Still annoyed that the organization pandered to the white trash Missouri fan base.

Dude is a stud AND hilarious. Kuhn knows what's up per usual.

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BeddieKU23 said:

@BShark

That was the PR "your not coming" back move. He was caught up in the FBI stuff. I don't think Smart was taking him back

Yep, definitely.

@Kcmatt7 I agree, but it has a big impact on what I thought their guard rotation was. Doubly true if Jones isn't 100%.

For some reason I forgot Eric Davis, Jr. went pro. DERP. That changes a lot of what I said about UT and their roster...

I think Serena was acting like a child and deserves some kind of suspension.

BeddieKU23 said:

BShark said:

@BeddieKU23 If he can mostly be the same player he was, they have great back court depth. If Courtney Ramey has to be the 4th guard and they basically don't have a 5th guard* that really impacts their rotations and ability to keep guys fresh.

*Febres and Mitrou-Long are not good enough

Interesting I thought Mitrou-Long was pretty good as a Soph. He averaged 15 ppg in 6 games against P5 competition (West Virginia, Iowa St, Minnesota, Michigan, Arkansas, Villanova) being the competition. Had 14 against West Virginia, 19 against Iowa St

KU has played worse guards under Self (COUGH COUGH THARPE COUGH) but I still wouldn't feel good about him getting minutes. If Jones is good to go I doubt Long plays much at all.

Kcmatt7 said:

If I were putting money on it:
- KU
- WVU
- KSU
- UT
- TCU
- Baylor
- ISU
- Tech
- OSU
- OU

KU undefeated through Conference play, winning the conference by a full 5 games.

That's a lot of faith in Huggins considering their roster, but he has earned that kind of respect.

No way KU sweeps the league. Probably a couple wtf losses and one loss to a better team in the league. I'd guess 15-3.

BeddieKU23 said:

BShark said:

BeddieKU23 said:

@BShark

I like that you have West Virginia 6th. I just have a hard time putting them higher with their guard options being so limited. They are going to rely on Ahmad, West & Punkate a ton.

It could bite me because they have been consistent under Huggins but I just don't see how they are near the top of the league with that back court.

If Huggins makes this team work he definitely earns his checks. I know he was high on Doomes who had to sit last season. Beetle and Harler are nothing special, Beetle can score some but he's nothing like Carter/Miles. My Brewster friend has good things to say about Culver who should be ahead of the curve a little bit taking that post-grad year to work on his academics.

Culver is good, but they are already relatively loaded inside.

Bolden could legitimately be their best guard which will keep Huggins up at night. I'm thinking they will start three forwards to avoid starting two FR guards.

@BeddieKU23 If he can mostly be the same player he was, they have great back court depth. If Courtney Ramey has to be the 4th guard and they basically don't have a 5th guard* that really impacts their rotations and ability to keep guys fresh.

*Febres and Mitrou-Long are not good enough

BeddieKU23 said:

@BShark

I like that you have West Virginia 6th. I just have a hard time putting them higher with their guard options being so limited. They are going to rely on Ahmad, West & Punkate a ton.

It could bite me because they have been consistent under Huggins but I just don't see how they are near the top of the league with that back court.

Also if I was coaching Texas I would start Sims and Hepa to just be extremely athletic.

BeddieKU23 said:

Is Andrew Jones a possibility to return to Texas? That would change things for them potentially. 9 guys freshman or Soph so their's a boom or bust potential with them. With Smart, the smart money is always on bust but we’ll see

He should be back. How effective he will be is another story.

I'm high on ISU and might get burned again there. UT's placement on my list is more of an indictment on Shaka's coaching than anything else. Their roster talent could still have them easily end up top 3 in the league though.

Figured we should move this out of the recruiting thread.

My guess at the Big 12 this year

KU

KSU

ISU

TCU

UT

WVU

TTU

Baylol

OSU

OU

KUSTEVE said:

1- KU

2- Silo Tech
3-TCU
4-TT
5-Hillbillies
6-Clones
7-Okie St
8-Faylor
9-Shorthorns
10-OU

I could be all wrong, but as long as I get the first one right, it doesn't make a bit of difference to me.

Texas has a roster this year that Self could easily take to a FF. Of course Shaka is not Self....