@JayHawkFanToo I think Lightfoot could have a great stint at KU, contribute solidly and never average much more than 15 mpg in a season.
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JayHawkFanToo said:
Sadly my memory is slowly going away and with both parents having suffered from dementia I see that in my future as well.
We all were high on Bragg and Alexander and both were misses, Bragg more so. I am still high on Lightfoot, the book has not closed on him yet; he might well end up having a Lucas like career at KU, not a bad thing.
Keep in mind that if recruiting and players landed panned out/stayed healthy, Lucas doesn't have a Lucas type career. So, I think some tools are there with Lightfoot too, but this year might be his best chance to see the court.
JayHawkFanToo said:
Bol Bol seems to be a West Coast type of person, and unlike his father, definitely not Mid West
Agree. Seemed like AZ was quite strong with him before the whole FBI thing too.
@KUSTEVE Saw this earlier. It's a puff piece but hey, it's about KU and Self being awesome so :heart:
@jayballer54 Recruiting Hurt as a wing. JRE is a post guy. Chandler is kind of a hybrid. I do agree it would be tough to pull all three. Likely SDS and McCormack still on the roster. Don't think Dedric would still be around.
jayballer54 said:
BShark said:
Bol Bol is trending to Oregon and UK fans are not taking it well. Their dork writers are saying UK may take no bigs this class.
I think this is funny as hell. - -I saw where Bol Bol was trending big to Oregon today - -that's really sucks - - well maybe not lol. -- ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
The way people are talking it's done to Oregon.
@Kcmatt7 I could definitely see this happening. No way Cal doesn't add at least one big considering UK's attrition rates.
Omg it's just beautiful.
"Look back in recent years at the guys Calipari has chosen not to recruit and he has a pretty good track record."
Bol Bol is trending to Oregon and UK fans are not taking it well. Their dork writers are saying UK may take no bigs this class.
jayballer54 said:
Well guess I was way off base or something. I sure thought we were out of the race or had back off Matthew Hurt. Read that the entire staff paid Hurt a visit Monday after seeing Grimes a well.
I just feel with all we will have in 2019 just not sure where Hurt fits in. I think it would come down to either we get Hurt - OR Robinson Earl. - -Which one would you rather have? - - I'll take Earl thanks , maybe not quite the scorer as Hurt but I think better defender - -better rebounder - -better defensive inside presence. -- -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Staff wants both.
jayballer54 said:
@BeddieKU23 Seeing him and Devon in our backcourt in the future , and then Jacobs joining the following year , & possible add Harvey to the mix - -I think were going to have a really solid back court. - - 2019 we are going to be absolutely loaded all the way around.
You look chances are more then not our back court gonna be loaded up -- chances more then not still have Grimes - - -Dotson - -Moore- - -Jacobs - - - Garrett - - & Harvey.
Front Court I feel pretty good with De-Sousa - - - McCormack - - -Lightfoot - - -Robinson-Earl - - - & a Lawson - - how stacked would that be?
You know I was a little worried about our conference streak ending this year - -now not so much , I think we will be able to fight them off, then 2018 - - forget about it we loaded again and so on and so forth - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
The more I see of Grimes the more I think he is OAD. Which works out for a lot of reasons. Especially if the staff 100% wants to add Harvey in addition to Jacobs, we will need the room.
OH NO, AN ILLEGAL SCREEN. Refs at all levels NEVER get those wrong usually.
HighEliteMajor said:
@JayHawkFanToo You're just not a nice person with a memory like that ... I was also very high on Bragg. Perhaps the best thing to do is IGNORE my favorite recruit.
I do hold to the position that Shepherd would have been much better here vs. TCU (and, you know, I say that knowing you can't disagree given your proximity to Bill Self's back side...)
I was excited to see Mr. Lightfoot break out last season, as well. Hmmm.
I thought Bragg was a good fit too. Turned out he wasn't for quite a few reasons. We all miss sometimes.
DanR said:
Crimsonorblue22 said:
@BShark he's pretty good at antagonizing other bigs!
Probably learned that from Lucas too. LOL
Lucas was just the right amount of dirty. :100:
@Kcmatt7 If Lightfoot can just rebound and bring energy I'm good with that. Give like 15 minutes a game and don't hemorrhage points when he is on the court.
@Crimsonorblue22 Good point. If he knew Bagley would come, maybe he would have stuck with bolting. Almost no chance he plays much this year.
BeddieKU23 said:
I love all these " this team has closed the gap" "this team is a legitimate option". It's all just smoke to cover what is going to happen. Q is going to be a HAWK
Remember when Kansas closed the gap for Quickley? lol
See also: Dotson.
:coffee: :newspaper:
Crimsonorblue22 said:
@BShark bet he wishes he did now!
According to Duke people he decided to transfer to TCU, then he changed his mind. Sounds like a bit of a headcase.
@justanotherfan No mistaking it, Grimes is the top target.
Lightfoot looked solid.
Bolden was very close to transferring after last year.
BeddieKU23 said:
BShark said:
Some people might not like some of the recent changes (directly promising pt) but you have to keep with the times.
Yeah your right. When you big game hunt (the elite's) and your an elite school how can you not adapt your philosophy? Tell the kids what they want and then get them on campus and coach em up and find out if they are the real deal to earn what you might have promised them.
It also helps in a year like this one where the roster has a lot of moving parts and there is a premium for getting players.
Yeah, Self has pt to sell. Still really impressive works with the bigs though. At a minimum one is coming to be a back-up next year. And this was a class really short on quality post players.
@BeddieKU23 Exactly.
RockkChalkk said:
Bit of a bummer to see Slater change his CB pick for Zion from Kansas to "Foggy". Dude has a 91% accuracy for picking recruits in 2018 thus far.
For a moment I read this as switched on Grimes and I was like :confused: then I saw it was Zion and :relieved:
Pretty sure the UK visit won Zion over.
Kcmatt7 said:
@BShark No arguments. I guess this is more about who these players will be guarding/starting. Grimes may or may not play on the ball. But he will be guarding the 2 guard unless we see a lineup with him at PG, Garret at SG and Langford/Zion/Vick at the 3.
Self did make some comments during the Late Night broadcast mentioning that he actually thinks he will play Moore off the ball quite a bit. Perhaps he could put Grimes at PG when Dotson is out and have Moore out there as a very good secondary ball handler.
Anywho, I really just like the way the staff has recruited this season so far. Made some guys priorities and landed them. And, it looks like they feel good about Grimes and either Langford or Zion since we haven't really heard a new name pop up besides Herro. I think they are pretty happy with how things have shaken out after landing the 3 guys we have landed and at this point just want to finish out the class. Makes more sense to prioritize the 3 or 4 guys who are left and then see what is left out there once those pieces fall off the board.
At this point, no recruiting news seems like good recruiting news for us.
I think Dotson and Grimes will be like Frank and DTae, with Dotson being in the Frank role. Of course, Grimes is big for a guard, he has Selden type size.
I think you put Grimes on the opposing PG/primary handler, if you can place Dotson elsewhere safely.
Grimes will be announcing very soon. Before KU's first actual game of the season probably.
@Kcmatt7 Better put Grimes as PG, that's what he is being recruited as. I'd also say Garrett is flexible, can easily play 2g if needed. Grimes makes it all work next year.
I think Grimes and two developmental additions is the most likely scenario.
Some people might not like some of the recent changes (directly promising pt) but you have to keep with the times.
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@approxinfinity I have it on good authority that Self and the staff changed some things in the way they approached recruiting this year.
@approxinfinity I signed up. I'm in the group no issue. Overall I really like the idea of a chat room for games.
@approxinfinity That's fine. I have no idea all the features of Slack while I use discord regularly. I have no issue using either.
Looks like this will happen soon.
@Crimsonorblue22 Well I already use discord for one. I like the layout. If it ends up that the other site is used, I will be there.
I prefer this site which is why I made the group. I do think it is a good idea to just have a chat instead of doing a game thread.
nm
I made a discord group.
KUSTEVE said:
@elpoyo Yeah, it was all Wigs fault. He made Naadir play like crap, and deliberately hurt Embiid.
Such sabotage. For shame Wiggs!
@JayHawkFanToo Well yeah. My point was just that he probably did less than Doke last year while being fully healthy.
Kentucky or KU. I'd lean towards Kentucky. He isn't going to Duke to share the spotlight with Barrett.
3genhawk said:
It looks like next year's team will be a very inexperienced team that could become a dangerous team. Bills patients will be tested. I hope Vick & Doke or Preston returns.
This is so difficult to handicap right now. I'd put Preston 99% to go, not as sure on Vick or Doke.
Weird comment on Langford...
"Romeo Langford is leaning towards in-state Indiana, but Kansas is a legitimate option and his father has made it clear that this will be a 'business decision'," said Slater. "Kansas has historically been very successful in demonstrating their attractive platform," he added.
JayHawkFanToo said:
He had a very quiet first year so not necessarily unexpected. I believe that at this time it is just the pre-season "watch" list which gets tweaked as the season progresses. No doubt he will be a candidate as the season progresses.
Marques Bolden was on the list though. Lol.
Would be nice if he signed early.
dylans said:
@BShark No gameplan, no game prep. I’m assuming very few set plays. I doubt very much that KU resembles what you saw yesterday in March.
Agree. I'm not willing to call it a real game, because it's not, but it was closer than most. Certainly the intensity alone was much greater than a normal exhibition or the Italy games.
dylans said:
@HawkChamp No. I wouldn’t support MU in any way. And I don’t pay for exhibition games or go to late night for that matter. I didn’t watch the Italy games either- Pre-season ball is trash comparable to pre-season football. It’s a facsimile of a game. I just hope it helped prepare the guys for real games.
And no MU is not worthy of KU playing them in basketball making them relevant again. MU isn’t worthy of lighterfluid much less piss if they are on fire. A slow burn is what they deserve.
This was close to a real game. Graham played 35 minutes. Key differences were 7 fouls and the gentlemen's agreement between the coaches to only play man d.
Most years MU is not. This year, they have a lot of talent.
Fescoe is a shmuck but I agree that KU should play this game.
Uggggggggh. Even just the screencap there is awful and makes me sad that this site automatically embeds (or w/e it technically does) youtube links.
@BeddieKU23 Fair point. Not sure he's a great fit for the college game then. Would be tough for him to defend college wings.
stoptheflop said:
If anyone has located a box score of the game, could you post it here or post the link? I'm a box score guy.