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@BeddieKU23

Svi leaving would make a ton of sense given the staff wants to add a post (Tilmon or Juiston) and a guard (they want Duval but it will end up being Allen imo).

No one else is really a candidate

Graham (Self is ecstatic he came back, starting PG)

Newman (key player, only other ball handler on the roster, starting 2G)

Vick (looking at a breakout year, likely the starting wing)

Cunliffe (just transferred in)

Garrett (FR with a bright future)

Preston (likely OAD, starting PF)

Udoka (has to stay, starting C)

Mitch (Program player, loves KU, Self just talked him up at the banquet)

KJ Lawson (just transferred in)

Dedric Lawson (just transferred in, starting PF in a year and a half)

Only other possibility I see is Coleby but the post is already thin so the only way I see Coleby getting processed is if the staff could land Tilmon AND Juiston.

@dylans

No. It will very likely end up being Allen.

@BeddieKU23 said in Crootin Thread III, Wherein Some Players Probably Commit to KU:

@BShark

Wow, that would certainly solidify the back up center spot

Missouri people are getting nervous. This could be fun...

@jayballer54 said in Crootin Thread III, Wherein Some Players Probably Commit to KU:

@BShark OK, what am I missing? lol what is it that's about Tilmon?

ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@approxinfinity

I was.

@BeddieKU23

It's about Jeremiah Tilmon.

Switching browsers helped me.

@BeddieKU23 said in Crootin Thread III, Wherein Some Players Probably Commit to KU:

@BShark

Matt deleted his own thread about whatever it was that was possibly going to happen. Something is going on

Seems like someone deleted every post/thread he ever made LOL.

Also fwiw, a Memphis person put in a pick for Chandler to KU.

@approxinfinity

I had to sign back in after the upgrade anyway.

Kerem Kanter to Xavier.

I'm having issues upvoting posts. I will sometimes get "error invalid data".

@BeddieKU23

Yeah that was extremely unpleasant all around.

@BeddieKU23

Would have been nice. Only one team wins it all each year, and KU is typically well positioned. There is an alternative scenario where Self is not landing talented players and the team bottoms out and fails to win the B12. I mean if the B12 is so bad obviously KU would have NO CHANCE AT ALL if they didn't win the league...

@elpoyo

I heard a school in Columbia, MO is currently taking applications for new fans. Best of luck.

@BeddieKU23 said in Crootin Thread III, Wherein Some Players Probably Commit to KU:

@BShark

Jeez, Baker is a good shooter. that's a big pick up for them because they didn't have a shooter signed

Yeah Cal has probably had shooting related nightmares lately. Briscoe, Fox etc...

@BeddieKU23 said in Crootin Thread III, Wherein Some Players Probably Commit to KU:

I get the feeling its the younger Lawson (Chandler) that Matt put in a CB pick for today. 2 others did yesterday as well.

Chandler is a 2019 kid..

This seems very likely. It's certainly not Duval, who is pretty much a done deal to Duke.

@jayballer54

No idea. Lots of speculation right now.

Jemarl Baker to Kentucky. Tough times in Squidville.

@jayballer54

I would guessing a storm is a brewin again. Last time it was the Lawsons. He said this is "big" but not 100% yet.

Matt Scott is excited again.

@Kcmatt7

Only FR can play in the exhibitions and then take a red shirt. I remembering hearing this during exhibition game broadcasts before.

@BeddieKU23

Yeah 2.5 blocks a game is damned good. Only surpassed recently at KU by the likes of Cole and Withey who both had seasons over 3. Obviously not the same kind of player but that really puts it in perspective imo. Embiid was offering up a similar number (2.6) in his partial year here but of course Embiid's presence also altered many more shots (like Cole and Withey) so the overall impact won't be the same, but it's clear that he can have defensive value.

His advanced stats from last year are pretty similar to Josh. A little better in some areas but a worse 3 pt shooter. Similar usage rates too, so you know he can get it done as "the guy". And yes Josh had a higher usage rate than Mason, which I found interesting.

His total numbers look like a mild improvement from his FR to SO year, but the advanced numbers were a huge gain, especially on offense. He went from 99 ORTG to 113 and from 0.6 to 4.5 OBPM. PER jumped from 19 to 27. Very impressive stuff that shows he has a pretty good feel for the game. Given the year off to work in KU's system, he should have a hell of a year for KU.

@mayjay

Okay so sounds like he has to apply for it, sounds like just the kind of bad behavior the NCAA won't allow! While letting UNC have fake classes of course.

@mayjay

Thanks for the link.

@mayjay

Friggin NCAA is so confusing. Guess we will find out for sure when he pops up on the KU roster page officially for next season.

@mayjay

His dad on the radio said Dedric called up Tarik to ask about KU/Self.

@mayjay

Still counts as the first redshirt. Would have to have something like that happen again to get another year.

Will Marsha EAT Drew live on the court? Stay tuned.

WSU now plays 3/10 of the league next year, but of course not KU.

@dylans

He wouldn't get a 6th year. That's for injuries and the like.

@drgnslayr @Texas-Hawk-10

Exactly. The other brothers and cousin if they come here are just a bonus. Dedric fills an immediate need, a post player for the season after next. One that is better than pretty much any post player KU can realistically recruit in the 2018 class. This kid has proven he can fill it up at the D1 level. He's already fantastic! With a year off in the KU program working with Hudy and surrounded by better talent, watch out.

@BeddieKU23

Should be a great 4 for Self. Would agree, he should be the Big 12 preseason POY in a year and a half.

Tubby just doesn't even want to try to play the game anymore, if he did, he wouldn't have upset the apple cart with Keelon Lawson.

Ashton-Langford to Providence.

http://www.espn929.com/media/audio-channel/gary-parrish-show-monday-april-10-2017-hour-1-wkeelon-lawson-seg-2 ↗

Another radio spot with their dad. Starts about 30 minutes in. Some interesting tidbits: Dedric liked KU even back in HS, they know Newman and Vick pretty well. The Lawsons have known Vick since the kids were 6 or 7 years old. Bill Self was in Memphis YESTERDAY. Basically no one knew about this and it didn't leak. Amazing in this day and age.. Lawsons know Tarik Black. Dedric called Tarik to ask him about Kansas and Tarik of course was very positive about KU and said he wished he would have played 4 years under Self.

@brooksmd

Cousin top 10 2019 - http://247sports.com/Player/DJ-Jeffries-84187 ↗

Brother top 25 2019 - http://247sports.com/Player/Chandler-Lawson-85569 ↗

Youngest brother 2021 - https://future150.com/jr/basketball-profiles/jonathan-lawson-sf-2021-memphis-tn ↗

Too early for 2021 rankings yet but Johnathan will be top 20 most likely.

Edit: Wrong link, working on it...

Should be the right link now: http://www.espn929.com/media/audio-channel/jason-john-41017-hour-1-w-keelon-lawson ↗

Lawson interview starts about 25 minutes in.

@Kcmatt7

Get Grimes to run the point at 6'4''. Imagine Doke could be back to play center, at least that's my hope. If not, Self adds a rim protector type post.

@brooksmd

:no_entry_sign:

GO Rawls!

@wissox

Sour grapes. Dedric will fill it up under Self. Yes he isn't a super athlete but he just gets buckets.

Looks like Ashton-Langford will end up at Providence.

McKinley Wright has decommitted from Dayton.

@Kcmatt7

Wouldn't worry about finding room for Bagley. He's the kind of kid you say yeah we've got as many minutes available as you can physically play.

@jayballer54

One open slot if Josh goes and Svi stays.

I have to think this does help ISU with Juiston. Juiston wants to play and while he would next season the season after that would be very much in doubt for him.

@JayHawkFanToo

I think you can live with Newman and Garrett out there at once when Graham is out. Don't think you can get away with say Newman/Svi/Cunliffe or sub Vick for Svi or Cunliffe in there. Esp against pressure teams. Self is no dummy of course he will figure out the best rotations.

@BeddieKU23

I wouldn't hate it if KU kept staying involved with 5 star transfers.

Now just flip Carty and we goood.

@JayHawkFanToo

I was pretty worried about KU having to rely on the 2018 class for 2+ post players. Fears alleviated!

@JayHawkFanToo

That's what I was saying more or less. That no doubt Vang or w/e was given a scholarship this year that is a walk-on won't be on scholly next year now.

@RockkChalkk

I tend to agree but I wasn't super high on Cunliffe to begin with.

@JayHawkFanToo

They don't count. I have no idea who Self maybe gave a temp scholarship to last year but walk-ons are walk-ons and they will not count against the 13 scholarship limit.

@JayHawkFanToo

I like Svi, but someone out of Svi/Vick/Cunliffe is going to be very unhappy if Svi stays. We will see how it works out.

@HawkChamp 6'10'' True center.

@JayHawkFanToo

Tucker Vang and Clay Young are walk-ons.

This is from a Memphis poster:

"In Dedric, KU is getting a great rebounder and scorer at the basket. He's super long and has a high BB IQ. He's a very solid passer as a big. He has a developing outside shot, which looks pretty good mechanically though he needs to keep practicing it. He can even function as a primary ball handler for stretches, and is capable of getting his own shot and path to the rim. The main knock on him is his lack of athleticism and quickness, which has kept him out of draft consideration so far. He also needs to get stronger, which a year off should help him do. He's a double double threat every night, and averaged about 20 and 10 last year. KJ is a complementary player right now with the mindset of a go-to guy. I had high hopes for him coming into Memphis, but he never really developed past the score first mentality. He showed occasional flashes of high output point production (I believe he had one 30 point game last year) but more often than not he's an average to below average shooter with a less developed IQ than his brother. He's also pretty damn long and is a pretty solid defender at the 3 or 4 (and a good rebounder at 6'7''). Edit: I should add, a year of two of good coaching could do KJ a lot of good. He's definitely got a spark of talent."