When they lost to Louisville at home it was worse then any ku defeat.

Thank you roy for ending on time. Guess when you dont have 25 thousand Zion promos to go thru you can finish a game in a decent fashion

Long way to wait to announce your not leaving the west

BShark said:

Probably smash WVU with Doke tbf.

I think so. Especially the first half where this team struggled with any offense. Just getting him in position was probably good for 10-15 pts

This week we can't say the polls were biased against KU. Lost to a 9-9, 1-5 conference foe on the road and only dropped 2 spots. Probably helps when most of the Top 25 lost as well.

Teams KU has beaten in the polls:

1 Tennessee, #6 Michigan St, #12 Marquette, #18 Villanova.

Iowa St checks in at #24 this week. Tech dropped to #14 as the only other ranked Big-12 team. Saturday's Kentucky game will be #8 vs #9.

KU can put Saturday's loss behind it by going 2-0 this week. Don't ask how probable that is..

Even if Vick tried to drive the lane, no guarantee he gets fouled or doesn't turn it over trying to make the play. The sloppy ball handling is what set up the improbable heave which was probably aided by nerves and the crowd noise. He didn't see Dedric wide open though which adds to the whole situation gone wrong. I still think the missed timeout is the bigger issue then Vick's shot. Our HOF coach is well known for finding the right play to get the right shot.

BShark said:

Seems like KU might have a shot with Johnny Juzang.

Anything this is based on? What's the connection here. I see the Meyer CB. Most recent video was okay. Great size for a wing. Zaire Williams in that same video looked like a D-1 player as well. Pulling Cali kids always seems like a waste of time but who knows.

In Dedric's case its lot easier for a guard to be the "Man" in Self's offense. We've seen less and less of Dedric at the high post or hovering the perimeter since Doke went down for the year. So most of Dedric's offense has to come off a guard getting him the ball inside. Not ideal for your best player. As we saw in the closing minutes Saturday there was poor execution again to get him the ball. If he was a guard I don't think he would have had that issue. There was poor execution to get Dotson the ball on multiple occasions as well. Growing pains for Dotson who had a rough game. This is growing pains for the coaches. Self had the chance to call timeout and choose not to. Simple as that. The crowd noise was insane after that made basket and that was an opportune moment to settle his guys and draw up a play. Situationally both the players and coaches have to do a better job.

@BShark

Besides vick nobody has that shooters mentality on the team. Both Dotson and Grimes are at least a year away from developing it at this stage. We have young guards and it shows

Self admits he should have called timeout. Cant take it back now

@BShark

I've always felt this team wouldn't have it but I didnt think Grimes would be this average either. Not having doke just kills the Identity of the team.

BShark said:

Yeah probably so. This team will steal enough wins. Every win feels like stealing. Self needs to go back to the lab.

The lab doesnt have much left. This team is who they are, not enough time to build chemistry

BShark said:

This team could still collapse enough to maybe almost miss the tournament. Either way this is a first weekend exit team.

Your first part isnt accurate but the 2nd is

Felt like roy swallowing he timeouts

Deflating loss on the road with a young team. Iowa st will eat this team alive monday

kjayhawks said:

Should've called another timeout after Dedric couldnt get it to Dotson. Coaching cost us the win.

Bingo

@Hawk8086

You jinxed them. But we gave up 5 with out even trying and then shit our pants

Alabama pissed down their pants too

KirkIsMyHinrich said:

Virginia is the last man standing. Might lose to Duke later today, though.

Without jones? Seems hard to think that's happening

Watching vick take that shot after fumbling the dribble 3 times is exactly how you lose. Self could have avoided it and didnt

So we swallow the timeout with 8 seconds. Pathetic

That's on self. Did we have a timeout?

Just sad

Might as well just mail it in

We suck plain and simple

If this isnt an dedric iso

Dedric get him and And 1

Shitting our pants then Marcus bail out

Time to show some toughness

@Hawk8086

Your a jinx. Lol

And just like that we do exactly what we do to not put the game away

@DCHawker

Everything could be. Its sad

Wow

Jesus they missed the and 1 again after the make

Wow he missed

BShark said:

Like, what is going through KJ's mind that he is thinking "I got this"???

Charlie's mindset. Hes living through him

Kj definitely spends too much time with charlie.

How do they miss that and 1 on dedrics last shot

1 pt game after this

Jesus grimes

My God CALL A FOUL

BShark said:

Worst call I've seen this year
Maybe ever.

Omg omg omg omg omg

But that wasnt good positioning to stop the drive

Joke call

Lawson the boss

10 pushes off every single time

Only about 5 fouls on that possession b4 one is called

Woodrow said:

Hawk8086 said:

Key moment...up by 5 with the ball and get nothing....they then tie it up...could have gotten some separation. Anybody's game.

Thinking the same thing. Q didn’t go strong to the goal and then they got a 3 point play.

They could have easily called a foul. Grimes was hit

wissox said:

Vick has the sweet stroke back.

Notice he has a set shot and jump shot depending on where and how the play sets up