Silvio just invented the quarter season and done!~
BeddieKU23
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BShark said:
Woodrow said:
Self just said Doke and Dedric have solidified themselves as the starting bigs.
Makes sense. I want to dream damn it. I have small ball fever. :D
Move to Pennsylvania, follow Villanova. LOL
Woodrow said:
Self thinks this could help the teams focus.
Not to play devil's advocate but he would never say the opposite to the media. He knows he lost a very talented player and has 30+ games to narrow the gap of his loss
Woodrow said:
BeddieKU23 said:
Another season, another big man ineligible. Rinse Repeat to next season
4 out of the last 5 seasons KU has had a big man out with eligibility issues!
Hmm. that's a coach issue. But yeah its bad optics every year
BShark said:
My biggest concern with this is that he is being withheld from the exhibitions. Those games don't count so reading the tea leaves you could say it's because Self expects Silvio to never play for KU again this year.
That's how I see it! Even Preston played in exhibitions while not cleared to play
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
The comments from Self about having already talked to the NCAA and continuing to work with them suggest that there may be a quick resolution to this for Silvio. I hope?
Quick Resolution isn't in the NCAA's dictionary.
I do however applaud the optimistic view at this news
I guess we can predict what Silvio's pro career would look like now. Europe or G-League? Which one y'all got?>
Yeah Doke's playing especially if he's improved his FT's. He'll play anyway, he's the dominate post player in the league beside his equally dominate teammate
BShark said:
BeddieKU23 said:
Another season, another big man ineligible. Rinse Repeat to next season
At least we all saw this one coming.
Still disappointing. It's obvious the NCAA has contacted KU saying his eligibility is being reviewed
Another season, another big man ineligible. Rinse Repeat to next season
KJ is a talent and probably the best player on their team overall. I'm a bit hesitant to say he's as good as some of UK's past OAD hype machines but he certainly has the opportunity to lead this team if he's as good as they say
Kcmatt7 said:
@BeddieKU23 You are probably right. And they were already dropping enough games that they couldn't let Richards play through mistakes. Kind of a lose-lose situation for both parties. I do wonder what a year of development will do for him.
Richards is an interesting case. What I saw of him in High School was a big athletic mobile center that lacked a ton of skill. He was massively overranked/overhyped (probably more of a 30-50 range type recruit on current ability at the time) but because he committed to UK and at his size I'm sure they did it to appease the Nike/UK conglomerate.
At Kentucky as a freshman he was the same player and looked like he struggled being coached up the way Calipari goes about things. Now it will be interesting to see what individual player development he received and what he was able to improve on as well as his maturity which I noticed was also a big issue in why he sat at times
BShark said:
Kcmatt7 said:
@JayHawkFanToo I think he comes off the bench. I mean he definitely will be an offensive threat. I just think Cal runs Green, Quickley, KJ, PJ and Travis out there as his starting lineup. With Hagans and Herro coming off the bench.
My starting line-up would be Green, Hagans, KJ, Travis, Richards. PJ will definitely start over Richards though, Cal has something up his butt with Richards.
tbh I'm not sure Richards is what they thought he was. Painstakingly watched a lot of UK's games last season it was hard to tell he was a former All-American. In his defense he just looked like a player that needed time compared to expectation. I wonder what a full year in will do for him.
By my current estimations, the Big-12 has 17 four star recruits (or higher) committed with a handful of high level transfers sitting out the season. Last year the Big-12 added 18 for this current season. Talent infusion coming into the league
BShark said:
Yeah, King is going to stay home and go to UGA I believe.
For the 8th time
BShark said:
BeddieKU23 said:
I've been trying to figure out Xavier's scholarship situation. They should have about 8 guys back next year but have signed 9. Last time I checked that didn't make 13. What is going on?
Lol, they have 5 commits. They are keeping 8 like you said (11 guys and three are grad transfer srs) so they are now full up.
Looks like I missed Elias King decommitting. Also one of their transfers I didn't realize was a preferred walk-on and the other was eligible to play for them this season. Thx for clearing that up. Makes sense how they are getting to 13 now.
They could potentially be stacked if that team comes together. I think Cal's recent teams have trended in the wrong direction despite every year having similar talent. Until they prove otherwise I think this team is his least talented overall (of his last few) but might have better position fits to develop.
I have two thoughts with two different scenario's.
One, this Kentucky team doesn't have the usual OAD talent they usually get that carries their team. Who's the Alpha? They usually have a few. Because of that they struggle in an improved league where as many as 7-9 teams could be NCAA tourney bound. They lose to Duke, North Carolina & KU in non-conference and go something like 12-6 or worse in conference play. 10 losses very easily could happen if this team just isn't good enough because they lack a standout freshman or two to carry the team. Also while 3 players returned, none of them were expected to be difference makers in the NBA so they are in College still. Good for UK, potentially. All three showed flashes but lacked consistency.
Two, this Kentucky team is the opposite of some of the recent teams and the lack of a standout player makes this team more of a balanced attack. The lack of an immediate lottery pick type player shifts this team from 'me ball' to team ball. Having 3 Soph's back and 5 yr transfer come in bring some leadership and stability to the unit that the young guys can feed off. They win 2 of 3 or even all 3 of their marquee non-conference games and win the SEC with a favorable Saturday/Tuesday turnaround for every conference game. SMH at that compared to the Big-12's. They get improved perimeter shooting from Herro, Quickley and Johnson and play more of a half-court game instead of relying on athletes to make plays.
Which is it? I'm still thinking #1
I've been trying to figure out Xavier's scholarship situation. They should have about 8 guys back next year but have signed 9. Last time I checked that didn't make 13. What is going on?
BShark said:
Silvio is a starter caliber player that would come off the bench. That's a game changer.
I'll give Fran credit for this one, he was right
mayjay said:
@Kcmatt7 Deliberating until 8:30 pm gets them a nice dinner.
I like a smart jury!
What's a good dinner at these things? Filon Mignon or Burger King?
Ryan over on the Phog droppin dimes.
Preston was cleared academically, but never for his amateur status. Hence why the entire process was always an "appeal", despite what PR the KU staff spun early on. There was a lot of confusion because the whole car wreck thing muddied the info, but Preston was ruled ineligible and KU was appealing the whole time in hopes of getting him cleared before the first game. It never happened, he moved on.
There was no verdict after day 1. Continues today..
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I see it a little bit differently but you made a very good case for why KU would be okay without Silvio.
Silvio is arguably the 2nd best rebounder on the team. His per 40 rebound numbers were very good. His PER is 3rd behind Doke & Dedric.
He can play both frontcourt positions if needed at his size/strength which gives KU more lineup flexibility.
He shot 68% from the field & 71% on FT's.
Honestly I don't think what he would give this team is replaceable but we have depth in Mitch/Dave to use which is completely different from the last few eligibility issues we've ran into which is every year now.
I might be in the minority but I thought Silvio made us a better basketball team and with this roster we have it would be nice to have 100% of this team at Self's disposal
Joined by Carson Edwards (leading vote getter), Jr guard, Purdue
RJ Barrett, Fr wing, Duke
Luke Maye, Sr forward, UNC
Ethan Happ, Sr forward, Wisconsin @wissox
Caleb Martin, Sr wing, Nevada
I'm sure Duke and UK fans will be sending death threats to the writers for not including Zion & the entire UK's starting 5
Yeah he wasn't consistent for large parts of the season. He had what 4 & 3 points in the first two meetings before his 29 point effort in the last meeting. He did reach double figures in 9 games. As unheralded of a transfer as he was he surpassed any expectation I had on him so I'm surprised K-St fans aren't expecting more of him in year two.
Agreed things will be different. I still came away impressed with Mawien so I'm surprised the purps are not as high on him.
BShark said:
BeddieKU23 said:
BShark said:
BeddieKU23 said:
K-St should be a Top 25 team all season long. I'm not a fan of Bruce but he has 8 guys he knows he can rely on. If the JC transfer Trice can provide a role as well he's 9 deep and none of them are freshman. That's about as good of a situation as Weber has ever had. They should have great chemistry and the defense should keep them in games.
Trice is their 2nd best big according to my grape friends.
Tell them to lay off the kool-aid, that doesn't take much considering their roster. That would be like telling us telling them Mitch Lightfoot was the 2nd best big on the team last year. (No offense to Mitch)
To be fair they also aren't sold on Mawein.
He went all NBA Jams on us last year. Can't say I'm underestimating him again
BShark said:
BeddieKU23 said:
K-St should be a Top 25 team all season long. I'm not a fan of Bruce but he has 8 guys he knows he can rely on. If the JC transfer Trice can provide a role as well he's 9 deep and none of them are freshman. That's about as good of a situation as Weber has ever had. They should have great chemistry and the defense should keep them in games.
Trice is their 2nd best big according to my grape friends.
Tell them to lay off the kool-aid, that doesn't take much considering their roster. That would be like us telling them Mitch Lightfoot was the 2nd best big on the team last year. (No offense to Mitch)
mayjay said:
@BeddieKU23 I would have my fingers crossed about whether Wade could reinjure his foot. "Stress reactions" all too often seem to indicate a vulnerabilty to recurrence.
Good observation, especially as the season wears on it will be a possible concern.
BShark said:
mayjay said:
@BeddieKU23 "Guardian" for that jerk and Silvio's clown is clearly a misnomer.
Unfortunately you sign up for handlers and guardians when you recruit African kids.
Unfortunately when we sign up to follow KU basketball you have a yearly circus of big man eligibility.
K-St should be a Top 25 team all season long. I'm not a fan of Bruce but he has 8 guys he knows he can rely on. If the JC transfer Trice can provide a role as well he's 9 deep and none of them are freshman. That's about as good of a situation as Weber has ever had. They should have great chemistry and the defense should keep them in games.
How many games did Diallo miss for his guardian providing bubble gum and scoobie snacks to him?
BShark said:
BeddieKU23 said:
Where will Silvio get the money to reimburse the alleged $2500?
I suppose he could ask his corrupt guardian.
I mean where did Darnell or Selby get the money? I don't think it will be an issue.
Yeah I'm sure it could be worked out but in Silvio's case his family may not have the means to provide that. I'm not familiar with his entire story but him having a guardian who's dirty certainly doesn't provide him the most logical place to look for legal, help
Thanks. I knew it wasn't recent that KU was #1 preseason. I don't particularly care for the expectation that comes with being #1 in this day and age but its a feather in the cap I suppose for the program.
Any positive news is good news right now
Crazy. It's exciting thinking what Agbaji could be in time. That's some awful high praise
Where will Silvio get the money to reimburse the alleged $2500?
I suppose he could ask his corrupt guardian.
Crimsonorblue22 said:
@BeddieKU23 https://www.kansas.com/sports/college/wichita-state/article220179980.html ↗
Thanks. Interesting case. The NCAA approved Herron & today gave Braxton Key one at Virginia. Could work in his favor. Will be interesting to see how the feedback from Huggins and WVU goes.. He didn't have the option to go back to them
JayHawkFanToo said:
Top recruits know that all programs pay, maybe not directly but indirectly via shoecos, runners or boosters. They also know that if one falls all fall; I would not think they would be too concerned about it. The only thing would be if, because of the recent attention and exposure, Adidas is on a freeze of sorts and not doling out cash like the others.
Adidas is still out there paying recruits, I'm aware of one recent player that they were able to keep in the fold in the 19 class.
They just used other handlers that won't end up in a future FBI trial. The FBI caught the bad apple, one connected to KU among other schools
Kcmatt7 said:
Any Stanley news? It's been almost a full month now.
I believe his other officials to UCLA & Oregon are coming up. Otherwise crickets
Anyone know the last time KU was preseason #1?
Crimsonorblue22 said:
They're hoping teddy buckets-wvu transfer is eligible this year.
Do you know on the merits of what? Huggins kicked him off the team (unofficially)
JayHawkFanToo said:
This season KU has a "perfect storm" kind of team with the right combination of experience, talent and depth and it would be difficult to match so, in that respect, it will be a let down regardless of who KU gets.
In that same light, having a high collection of talent and expected departures after the season should leave KU in a great position for elite/immediate level talent to mix in but we're potentially seeing the "perfect storm" of off the court drama making it difficult to do so
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
BeddieKU23 said:
On paper I don't think there's a clear cut #1. So much roster turnover makes it impossible to know for sure which teams have the right chemistry and talent. My overall opinion is College Basketball is down overall but that should make it very competitive
The three most talented teams on paper are KU, UK, & Duke.
Nevada, Tennessee, Kansas St & Virginia have a mix of talent and veterans returning from good teams.
UNC, Oregon & Villanova are hard to evaluate right now but have Top 25 teams.
I don't know, I'm really high on Kansas and Kentucky this season. I think they are going to be a few notches above everyone else. If you asked me right now if I would pick Kansas and Kentucky or the field to win a national title I would probably take Kansas and Kentucky.
I'm high on KU as well, the depth and collection of talent is as good as we've potentially had since 08. We'll see if they play to the expectations already placed on them. I'm remaining guarded until I see how the pieces fit on the floor. If Dedric & Grimes are what we expect then we should have every chance to separate from the pack
BShark said:
BeddieKU23 said:
Kofi Cockburn schedules an official visit to Uconn. So far its his only official scheduled. Could be a good sign for them
Wondering who is going to be available for KU after missing on guys. Might have to play the decommit/grad transfer game.
Will be fun to see how it plays out. We'll find something good
If Wichita wins 20 games this season I'll be stunned.
Crimsonorblue22 said:
@BShark WSU beat osu in a scrimmage
OSU is probably going to finish last in the Big-12 for what its worth
On paper I don't think there's a clear cut #1. So much roster turnover makes it impossible to know for sure which teams have the right chemistry and talent. My overall opinion is College Basketball is down overall but that should make it very competitive
The three most talented teams on paper are KU, UK, & Duke.
Nevada, Tennessee, Kansas St & Virginia have a mix of talent and veterans returning from good teams.
UNC, Oregon & Villanova are hard to evaluate right now but have Top 25 teams.
Kofi Cockburn schedules an official visit to Uconn. So far its his only official scheduled. Could be a good sign for them