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@Crimsonorblue22

I believe this was Christian Dawkins documents that the FBI got a hold of when they raided ASM and Andy Miller. Dawkins was found guilty in the trail pertaining to Gotto & Code. I believe Dawkins goes to trial again in April which could be where all of which your talking about could be brought to light.

We have seen guys that were mentioned in all this that had nothing done to them. Wendell Carter, Bridges of Michigan St for example. They didn't miss the NCAA tourney when all this broke. Sexton of Alabama was suspended just one game.

Crimsonorblue22 said:

@BeddieKU23 knowing what Nicole player told her son to say to coach, doesn't that clear KU? No?

Officially It should. I think KU cleared itself by finding the issue and never playing him in a non-exhibition game. That's what we were told.

The unofficial word is that Preston was never eligible, that KU was appealing the whole time and his amateurism was being looked at by the NCAA. There was never a ruling and Billy left before it all played out. The car crash etc was just smoke to cover up what was really happening.

If that's really the case I don't think KU has much to worry about seems how he was already on the NCAA's radar

HighEliteMajor said:

@BShark Thus my qualification on Wiggins and Josh.

So what is the word on what they were getting, "absolute top guys" or not?

http://arizonasports.com/story/1438377/report-suns-jackson-mother-received-2700-committed-kansas/ ↗

according to this report Josh Jackons's mother got a $2700 advance.

“His situation is going to get done at the very end," Dawkins wrote of Jackson's agent status, according to Yahoo. "UA is giving (Jones) 10k a month and she’s also getting paid by adidas now — so she’s plenty taken care of.

Hard to say what the total $ figure was on that one

Crimsonorblue22 said:

Question. So when academics are the problem do you guys lump that into the same category as bad character kids? Example, diallo. Do you think billy knew his mom did that according to her texts to him about what to say? Did cliff tell his mom to screw up his playing time knowing he was thinking about staying in college? Ok, let me have it!

When Diallo was officially suspended it was due to improper benefits given to him from his guardian right? That was a joke to begin with imo. We all thought it was his transcripts from Mali

KU and the coaching staff definitely fought for him. Before he signed with KU there was plenty of rumblings his eligibility was going to be something that could be an issue. KU took the risk anyway. I'm glad despite what happened to him he's made the NBA.

Has KU really ever been blindsided by an eligibility issue lately? I don't think that is 100% acccurate, unless I'm missing someone

@KUSTEVE

I've been hitting at this for a while too, recruit better. Not in terms of better players but recruit those who don't have pre-existing baggage. The 2018 class was a step in the RIGHT direction. Big Dave, Devon, Ochai, Q all pass the character test as far as we know coming in.

I think the staff is 2-2 so far in 2019. I think the remaining targets are also good character kids.

Of course some situations cannot be avoidable but if Self takes a stand againt the Selby's, Cliff's, Diallo's, Preston's of the world just maybe we avoid all these issues going forward. That's all we can hope for. Don't get to the point of desperation where you take Billy Preston. We could have had Tyler Davis who went to Texas A&M. Instead we got stuck in a snowball of bad choices that led to media headlines now

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BeddieKU23 said:

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BeddieKU23 said:

Should make Zeke's decision easier I hope

There hasn't been a ton out there on him other than visit fluff pieces. He was tagged in this: https://247sports.com/college/arizona/Board/105393/Contents/Basketball-Authority-Report-Williams-transitioning-well-123801082/ ↗

But I am VIP and can't read it. :shrug:

Here you go my friend

Nnaji visited UCLA this past weekend and will be at Baylor this weekend followed by a visit to Purdue. We’re still of the belief that Arizona is legitimately in this one and the coaches are pursuing Nnaji with the belief that the Wildcats could land him. Each school has its draw to Nnaji and Kansas is the main competition, but Arizona is not out of this one by any means.

Okay so generic fluff just like every other article on him lately. Looks like we just have to wait and see.

Yes nothing earth-shattering. Their insider doesn't know much, he's speculating they are one of the favorites here. That could be the case based on their expected frontcourt next year and the recruiting class Miller has assembled to make it attractive for him.

I did see an article that said watch out for Purdue here.. Interested to see whether any legs with that. Purdue looks well stocked with bigs after taking 2 in 2018, 1 in 2019 already and two underclassmen starters. They also will get his last visit it looks?

I think KU leads solidly here if the FBI thing hasn't changed things

@jayballer73

Nobody has given out the reasons, not even the people who claim to know something from other teams recruiting him. Either its false rumors or is the word out there that nobody wants to talk about.

What is troubling from the tea leaves I'm seeing is his move to IMG has some red flags. Mom was able to move to Fl with him. Some UNC/Nova people have said Nike/IMG has gotten in with him and family. Again just all speculation but its smoke. With how recruiting gets done I wouldn't be surprised if KU loses out simply because Nike has a better offer.

We all know Nova's success lately, kids are starting to be drawn there. I'm sure Nike is helping facilitate recruits toward the school, they are winning and nothing works easier then winning.

In the end as I said from the moment he announced the move to IMG this wasn't in KU's favor.

BShark said:

BeddieKU23 said:

Should make Zeke's decision easier I hope

There hasn't been a ton out there on him other than visit fluff pieces. He was tagged in this: https://247sports.com/college/arizona/Board/105393/Contents/Basketball-Authority-Report-Williams-transitioning-well-123801082/ ↗

But I am VIP and can't read it. :shrug:

Here you go my friend

Nnaji visited UCLA this past weekend and will be at Baylor this weekend followed by a visit to Purdue. We’re still of the belief that Arizona is legitimately in this one and the coaches are pursuing Nnaji with the belief that the Wildcats could land him. Each school has its draw to Nnaji and Kansas is the main competition, but Arizona is not out of this one by any means.

Should make Zeke's decision easier I hope

@Woodrow

Now that the KU/ESPN smear campaign has ran its course now its back to Miller and UA.

HawkChamp said:

@BeddieKU23 +1000. Like I said last night, we go through the same thing every year. Play like crap to start the year, then really get rolling once conference play starts. This team will be fine, just needs some time to gel and learn how to play together.

This group will definitely be a work in progress but I was hoping we'd see flashes of the talent out there and we did. It's a big, athletic team and I can't wait to see what they morph into as it gets going

He wanted Rihanna and settled for that. LOL

@dylans

Yeah you would think that time spent with Self this summer would have sold them. However recruiting doesn't seem to work like that.

It's JRE's decision in the end but there definitely seems to be some noise out there that it may be a decision influenced by others.

The game last night looked like a typical starting point. I'd actually be scared if the team was clicking on all cylinders right now. Self, I'm sure will love the tape on this game to push buttons and push what he wants with this group.

The talent though looks as good as advertised. I can't wait to see how they respond on the big stage right off the bat. Izzo will have his bunch ready.

stoptheflop said:

@BeddieKU23 Regarding Dedric's 31 pts. Dedric said Coach Self called it the ugliest 31 points he's ever seen scored. Later, in Coach Self's interview, Self didn't admit to the comment and attributed it to Dedric himself. But, Coach Self agreed with the comment and said Dedric was often off balance and out of position. My guess is Coach is telling Dedric he should be doing more and playing better.

Push your best player to be better, Self's good at this stuff.

He got 31 in 23 minutes and it looked pretty easy. He's a heck of an offensive talent

BShark said:

BeddieKU23 said:

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BeddieKU23 said:

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Glug...

Not a surprise if this is all true

Yeah, makes a ton of sense. Pretty obvious why his mom wouldn't want him at KU.

I didn't get the sense that it was due to the FBI thing. However I could have just completely missed that as well

You could be right it might be different. Too bad they wouldn't just say lol.

I know its always the most important info held back.

BShark said:

BeddieKU23 said:

BShark said:

Glug...

Not a surprise if this is all true

Yeah, makes a ton of sense. Pretty obvious why his mom wouldn't want him at KU.

I didn't get the sense that it was due to the FBI thing. However I could have just completely missed that as well

BShark said:

Glug...

Not a surprise if this is all true

Well if last night was any indication what's to come, Lawson will average 20+ a game

Sharing what Nova is saying about JRE.. Sounds like one poster has a source at IMG.

When I 1st heard it was only that UNC and NOVA were the favorites and that he would NOT go to Kansas. My source's son goes to IMG for lacrosse and they are family with as big a name as there is in College hoops history. The person he got the info from would have gotten in directly from the player and mom. They have buildings named after mom's family at KU but she does NOT want him to go there. I will leave out why.

Another poster

FWIW---I am friendly with a Big UNC booster/former player. About two weeks ago he said UNC not the destination. He thought Nova or Kansas in that order.

Another that the board seems to trust his intel says JRE will go to Nova.

approxinfinity said:

We sure we want Agbaji to redshirt?

No that dude a talent

Agbaji!

Someone on the phog posted JRE's birthday is Nov 3rd. Not saying that could be the date he announces but you do see some every year that do that and with his recruitment at the end stage, just maybe?

jayballer73 said:

I agree my friend. - I would settle for those two for sure. - -Yes I would love to have hurt , but I'm just starting to believe more and more that Hurt with him waiting till spring - I just feel the likelihood of him coming is less and less

JRE is good enough imo to start as a freshman so if we only get 1 of the JRE/Hurt duo I don't personally feel its a huge loss one way or the other. Hurt does have some versatility and superior shooting ability to JRE but Jeremiah has really surprised me especially in recent video how well he does just about everything and his motor and effort will never be questioned here (if he came). The added bonus for JRE is you probably get 2-3 years of him to develop as opposed to Hurt's OAD assertions.

I think we (I know I do) get a bit uneasy with recruits such as Hurt that are in no rush. Hurt has the leverage in his recruitment with basically every top program in his ear so it makes perfect sense for him to wait it out. Personally I don't feel we do that great with these type of recruitment's but Self does win his share.

Just getting a chance to listen to the whole thing. Self was very direct and basically begged for questions, give me your best shot type attitude is what I saw. Definitely impressed how he attacked this head on.

jayballer73 said:

@FarmerJayhawk I'm thinking more now that we DO still get JRE and Zeke and not Hurt

I would not be disappointed in that result. Multi year players and both could have NBA futures.

@BShark

At the same time I really want to see what the hype is about with him so waiting a year will suck if that's the route they go. I guess its good problems for Self to have for once, possibly red-shirting a kid now that will be a multi-year starter down the road.

Yeah he should save a year with how much wing depth we have. The comments from the staff are extremely promising for the future though.

Self nailed the public relations piece yesterday. He needed to so he wins the day.

This wasn't like Urban Meyer's situation. I don't think the media will be able to run wild with his press conference although some have attempted to.

Today we have a game so biz as usual

I'm ready to see how different Doke's shot looks from the charity stripe. They say he's improved but we all know its a "show me" type deal with what he had going on before.

I know what we are getting from the Lawson's. Definitely looking at the 5 star guards tonight. They give this team the highest ceiling so I hope they are able to seperate themselves as starters

stoptheflop said:

@Kcmatt7 I watched Grimes compete in the FIBA tournament and was impressed with his size. The roster says 6'5", 210. He has broad shoulders and isn't afraid to defend bigger guys in the paint. He played bigger than a shooting guard in the FIBA tourney last summer.

Thought the same, he looks every bit of 6'5 on the court. He's physically ready to handle the battle's he'll be in

BShark said:

FarmerJayhawk said:

I still think JRE picks KU but Nova has me pretty nervous. Too early to say anything definitive on Hurt, and we’re not really recruiting Chandler that hard.

When you slowplay guys like Chandler and some others, you'd better not miss on your top targets like JRE. JRE is as close to "must get" as you can have for KU imo. I really don't want to see what the scramble result looks like. Hope you are right.

Well said right here.

stoptheflop said:

Anne De Paula is dating Joel. Oh to be an NBA superstar with superstar charisma. Joel's got game.

Well looks like Joel is winning no matter what he does on the court. Endorsement deal from UA, swimsuit model GF.

Yeah I haven't found an article yet, twitter doesn't have much either but its reported Bossi reported he's down to the 2. I would imagine something would be released today.

Woodrow said:

Philly is struggling though at 2-3. I think it’s clear Toronto and Boston are the top of the East.

Yeah so far early that's the case. Philly will figure it out I think.

I know its early but Joel Embiid is averaging a terrible 29.5 points per game and 10.8 rebounds through 5 games. Why isn't he averaging over 30??? Joking of course

Edited original post to include recent developments. Removed Cole Anthony from the list as its very unlikely KU makes his list which he's said to be cutting and announcing.

JRE is officially down to KU & Nova... YIKES

FYI KU was in Florida to visit JRE at IMG.

Whether Fenny or Silvio received money makes no difference to the NCAA. If it was Fenny, Silvio is the sacrificial lamb. If it was Silvio that's on him, he'll be ineligible.

Silvio is already the sacrificial lamb for KU, not even hours after the trial concluded.

There's a game today, Self gets to coach, T will be on the sideline's coaching, KU (team) get's to play, but Silvio gets to sit. Silvio will always be the lamb in this.

*Note I'm just stating, not inferring my own opinion into it

BShark said:

Kcmatt7 said:

Well, it looks like the NCAA will live to fight another day. KU and Self pretty much are now gifted plausible deniability. Next up, Nike coaches. When's that trial?

April I think.

Convenient huh

Kcmatt7 said:

I'd love to know what Nike is doing differently.

Well for one they don't employ the Gassnola's of the world from what I'm aware of a few situations. I would imagine not a ton of difference, just a well oiled machine with a lot of power and influence

Kcmatt7 said:

I actually think Tshiebwe fits with Huggy really well and I'm almost pissed that's where he went.

Yeah you think well Konate will be gone after the season, great, phew, in comes his CLONE

BShark said:

BeddieKU23 said:

BShark said:

Kcmatt7 said:

Self and Huggy are like best buds on the road. I just imagine those two eating at a Waffle House at two in the morning after going to the bars. Just shooting the shit.

But also I agree about his steamy take. If anyone thinks Bill Walker went to KSU for free, I also have magic beans I can sell you.

UK/Cal really wanted Oscar Tshiebwe but he just went to WVU because he really likes Huggins okay??!!

Nike probably was okay that he at least stayed in the brotherhood. But Oscar does come from the same school as Thugnate.

WVU had a lot of connections to him. I have no doubt that someone took money, possible that Oscar didn't see a dime of it though.

Nike layered that cake pretty good though I'm sure for a Top 25 type kid.

BShark said:

Kcmatt7 said:

Self and Huggy are like best buds on the road. I just imagine those two eating at a Waffle House at two in the morning after going to the bars. Just shooting the shit.

But also I agree about his steamy take. If anyone thinks Bill Walker went to KSU for free, I also have magic beans I can sell you.

UK/Cal really wanted Oscar Tshiebwe but he just went to WVU because he really likes Huggins okay??!!

Nike probably was okay that he at least stayed in the brotherhood. But Oscar does come from the same school as Thugnate.

Kcmatt7 said:

@BeddieKU23 It was definitely more than just "No comment" though in my opinion.

I do think that was positive that the questions weren't avoided or deflected. This was his chance to put some positive spin on things that are going on and it looks like he did that.

mayjay said:

@BeddieKU23 He will bring a pro league to Angola.

Good one. Angola trailblazer

@JayHawkFanToo @Woodrow

Self is usually pretty good with these types of things. I think he was well prepared, as he should be at this point in his career.

Self gets to coach, the team gets to play, but Silvio gets to sit. SMH

BShark said:

Told y'all Grimes has a great basketball mind.

Had no doubts either. Can't wait to see it on the floor

JayHawkFanToo said:

@Woodrow

I caught the last part of the interview. Coach Self does not seem too worried or at least does not sound like he is.

It's just PR 101. He's not going to talk to the media and paint KU or himself in a negative light. It would be an extremely bad look to do so