I would say comparable in terms of pure shooter. I think Svi is a good comp as well. He's not a great athlete/defender but he knows how to score and his shooting %'s have always supported that.
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He won't be a good defender here. But he does a lot of other things well. He can push the young guys, he's a gym rat and works hard and has no ego. We have a need for a shooter. I have no idea whether he'd get a ton of minutes here as the difference between Albany and KU level is significant. He is the best available out there that fits our need though
Wendell Carter with the rare helicopter Mom
BShark said:
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Good news?
Virginia lands Braxton Key. Sit one to play 2.
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Jalen Wilson cutting to 6 schools already.
Very contentious one this is shaping up to be. Hope we get pursuing
Some hawks are following Cremo now on social media. Could be a positive sign?
Big loss for West Virginia. Teddy Allen will transfer
Wouldn't say your alone. I was thinking a lot of the same things last summer. I have seen a big improvement since then from him. I'm hopeful he continues on this path.
His skill level is very high. I expect he'll be a high impact player as a freshman. He's a 4 man at the College level. Might get multiple seasons out of him because he's not a crazy athlete.
Just thought it was funny why even list ku.
What's the latest on five-star 2019 big man Onyeka Okongwu. Well looks like he's throwing us a hopeless bone. Imagine he won't even visit.
How’s the recruiting process going?
It’s going really good. I’m leaning towards USC, UCLA, Washington, Kansas.
So it’s those four?
Yeah.
What’s the next step in this process?
I will go on a couple of official visits.
Do you know when you will start doing those?
Probably late summer.
What do you like about USC?
USC, I have always been a Trojan fan since I was a little kid, close to home, I like the way they play basketball too, I like the way they do their offense and defense, just the basketball is my type of style. I like the coaching staff, I’m really close with them.
What about UCLA?
UCLA has been known to bring a lot of NBA players out of their college, that’s the main thing and their close to home as well.
What do you like about Kansas?
Kansas is one of the best college basketball schools ever, there have been a lot of talent and a lot of NBA prospects. Washington, I have really grown close with their coaching staff.
Does Eric Mobley being on staff at USC and you playing AAU with his brother intrigue you?
It’s pretty interesting. Me and Isaiah have a great chemistry together but at the end of the day I have always loved USC to begin with.
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@BeddieKU23 Well if Wright gets a third year out of JQ I just assume he will at worst be in the FF again that year.
Agree. There will be some number of OADs just because. Quickley and Garland feel like good candidates. I can't imagine any of the top players Vandy got sticking around more than 1 year.
That depends on if you view Grimes as a PG or not. I think long term and in the NBA he wants to be a PG but I also think it's very likely he is only at KU one year and never has primary ball handling responsibilities.
I think Grimes will be a NBA PG but that could change after we see him at KU. My view of him right now is he'd make a heck of a PG at the next level with his size and skill. For KU I think its exciting knowing he has the skills to run the team if needed and will be a valuable secondary option to have
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@JayHawkFanToo What reports? Everyone I know with a good track record is not positive on Moore.
He is tiny and will be abused on defense. I'm thinking Iowa State hunting on Svi level D assuming opposing coaches figure it out. Add in the fact that he is a below average offensive player overall to boot. Sometimes KU players aren't actually good. Moore reminds me of Tharpe.
I think it's worth any potential growing pains with Dotson to start him right away. He has a lot more potential.
Well said and I agree. Dotson should start from Day-1. It's the only way the team finds its potential through the season
As long as Dotson still has both of his feet working by fall he will start IMO. He wasn't recruited for the bench, either was Grimes. This is the new age
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I am sure their recent success is opening doors to players previously unavailable. The question is, will it result in higher ranked players that leave earlier and ruin the system that has proven to be successful with older, more experienced players?
Both of these guys fit their model to a T. Dixon a borderline Top 100 guy and Moore a Top 60 ish kid that missed a year due to injury. That's their sweet spot
With the recent success they are involved with higher ranked kids though in 19 & 2020 classes. They may not land any but they definitely have their foot in the door where they didn't before
Also Brunson was very highly ranked and stayed 3 years.
Both these guys fit the mold for sure. I mean the one kid is a 6'6'' center. That's vintage Jay Wright right there.
The Arizona mess gifted them JQ who I think is right there after the top tier of PGs in this class. I'm not sure I see a single OAD PG in this class tbh. Quickley might be because Kentucky. It's ridiculous that Tre Jones is the #1 PG by some services. But whatever, Dotson can just prove it on the court.
Brunson, just a different cat. Agreed.
Definitely JQ was gifted. He'll be there a few years too, maybe 3 LOL.
Quickley, Garland are the two most likely OAD's I think. Still I wouldn't trade Dotson for any of them, I've thought that since last summer. Jones is being recruited over so he might not have a choice.
KU arguably landed the best College PG (Dotson) and best Pro potential PG (Grimes)
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BeddieKU23 said:
Nova continues to run laps on people in recruiting. 2 4 star commits already. Moore the latest, a Top 60 guard with size. Can only imagine he'll become the latest great from there in time
I just assume he will redshirt and play insane defense and shoot threes at a 40%+ clip by his JR year.
Automatic lock. Its the water I'm telling you
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I am sure their recent success is opening doors to players previously unavailable. The question is, will it result in higher ranked players that leave earlier and ruin the system that has proven to be successful with older, more experienced players?
Both of these guys fit their model to a T. Dixon a borderline Top 100 guy and Moore a Top 60 ish kid that missed a year due to injury. That's their sweet spot
With the recent success they are involved with higher ranked kids though in 19 & 2020 classes. They may not land any but they definitely have their foot in the door where they didn't before
Sounds like Jay Wright wasn't at Nova campus much if at all yesterday when Cremo visisted. Could be an interesting dynamic there
Nova continues to run laps on people in recruiting. 2 4 star commits already. Moore the latest, a Top 60 guard with size. Can only imagine he'll become the latest great from there in time
Wake Forest adds transfer point guard Tory Johnson. Immediately eligible.
They also added Buffalo grad transfer Ikeena Smart 6'10 post. Started 25 games and was apart of the team that upset Arizona in the first round
So far Baker was struggling in the live period AAU events to date. Looks like he's trying to get a leg up on any 19 recruits. Not a 5 star player IMO. Depth, probably doesn't play much as a freshie
Thanks for joggin the ol noggin there. Yup Skal played for a team created by his guardian. Apparently nothing shady about any of that stuff. That was so 2015 ish right??
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Didn't Skal Labissiere had a similar guardian and similar issues? It did not seem to affect his year at UK.
Forgot about him. What did his guardian do? Wasn't he the kid that survived some horrendous living conditions in Haiti
Nike money as deep as our founding fathers:stuck_out_tongue:
Adidas money found the nearest FBI agent:astonished:
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Bassey is originally from Nigeria. He has a guardian as most every foreign kid that comes to the US would have. Not necessarily a sign of improper actions. The other issues give pause for sure though.
Of course not every guardian causes an issue for their players.
We seem to have a high batting average for finding the one's that do. I'm shocked we are even in the game for these types with what's going on
Wish I had the answer. Is their an ask Self hotline?
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Aspire Academy is shady af.
His guardian as well.
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@BeddieKU23 Boy I sure don't know about Bassey. - -Good player but flags , flags , flags , - -exactly what is the poison that is surrounding this guy? - Is that people are just speculating of bad things because of the Worm at Western Kentucky? - or is it something else? - -I he has legit concerns then we need to Run and Run as fast as we can run. - we need to put a stop to these iffy players. Coach must think they will be o with him. - -Big flag is you don't really see any of the other blue bloods really recruiting him
2016 ruled ineligible to play in Texas. Eligibility issues started there.
"Two years later, Bassey came to Louisville. He’s now 6 feet, 10 inches and scoring more than 20 points per game as a junior for Aspire Academy, a prep school in its second year of existence and first in Louisville."
Has a guardian- those haven't been working out too well lately. His guardian has some financial issues that will be a nightmare for the NCAA.
After Bassey led St. Anthony to a 32-win season as a freshman, The Texas Association of Private and Parochial Schools declared Bassey and teammates ineligible the following November. The ruling was tied to improper financial benefits and “sponsorship by a charitable organization for tuition, room and board,” according to the San Antonio Express-News.
“We didn’t know anything about that,” Auriantal said. “I got hired and I brought them with me, like any parent, any family would do. I didn’t do anything different than a regular parent would have done. It just went out from proportion.”
Auriantal’s Yes II Success was registered as a nonprofit organization but had its nonprofit status revoked on May 15, 2017, for “failure to file a Form 990-series return or notice for three consecutive years,” according to the Internal Revenue Service's database.
Last year, a Bexar County, Texas, judge awarded Auriantal and his wife custody of Bassey, according to the Express-News.
This past summer, soon after an investigative Express-News story detailing Bassey’s road to San Antonio, Auriantal was fired from his position at St. Anthony.
Debra Del Toro, communications director for the University of The Incarnate Word, which runs St. Anthony, did not return a call by Courier Journal for this story.
Auriantal’s exit in July spawned a rapid search for a new school to welcome Bassey and his St. Anthony teammates, which led them to Aspire.
“Jeremy (Kipness) is a good person. That’s all we’re looking for, a good person. From there, the relationship grew," Auriantal said. "… Basketball is just a sport. Go out there and play. But the person, that’s what got us in the door.”
Kipness said it was like if the players came to a Kentucky High School Atheltic Association school and wanted to play. "They wouldn’t be eligible. There’s rules in place for a reason, but a lot of times it kind of hinders and hurts the kids," he said.
“I think they’re in an environment now where they’re able to really develop and grow without worrying about any of those outside noises,” Kipness said.
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BeddieKU23 said:
Double edged sword with "go getting talent"
Billy luckily never played but his issues were known. Turns out he had more then we thought
Still KU's name gets dragged through the mud. It looks bad no matter what.
Bassey should have a stay clear sign on him. Duke, Kentucky- they are not knocking on his door. Says something
Same with Preston tbh. He was a top 20 recruit and KU was competing with Indiana, Syracuse and USC for him...
Even Diallo didn't have as many heavy hitters in it. Cliff as well.
I'm just stunned we are recruiting Bassey no matter if the rumors on him are false. Playing with fire.
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BeddieKU23 said:
It looks really bad, I see no other way around that. Should have known better to expect recruiting tactics to completely change. We have to get away from these kids with eligibility issues
Thank you.-- EXACTLY my feeling. - -seems like these last three four years - -always something.Would be nice to be able to have at least one peaceful recruiting season.
Doesn't seem possible. 2018 has been mostly. Still not convinced that door is closed
Double edged sword with "go getting talent"
Billy luckily never played but his issues were known. Turns out he had more then we thought
Still KU's name gets dragged through the mud. It looks bad no matter what.
Bassey should have a stay clear sign on him. Duke, Kentucky- they are not knocking on his door. Says something
It looks really bad, I see no other way around that. Should have known better to expect recruiting tactics to completely change. We have to get away from these kids with eligibility issues
Potentially not having Silvio is crushing. I have no idea what's going to happen with him. The longer this drags out without clarity the longer the doubt will creep in about his availability.
We need another guard. Cremo fits a big need. Let's hope Villanova doesn't win him Wednesday
I don't think Doke is back after getting to the Combine. I would be shocked if he did return. We recruited accordingly.
The biggest thing I take from no Langford and possibly losing Doke- Size. Both represented the top 1% of their positions. We will be small balling it if nothing else is added
It's not good. We may ultimately be happy Langford's father isn't looking over every Bill Self coaching decision either. Now Archie's problem
Also we are actively recruiting a player with red flags everywhere (Charles Bassey) who may try and reclassify to 2018. Something's gotta give
Louisville adds grad transfer PG Christen Cunningham to its roster
West Virginia adds Juco transfer Jermaine Haley a 6'7 guard.
Tennessee adds grad transfer PG Kwan Fore to its roster
Did he pick Louisville? I really thought he was going there
So which team did he pick?
Kidding. Maybe we get Cremo now
He can create his own shot. He'd instantly become the best shooter on the team
Duke looked at him. He's visiting Villanova this week as well. Gonzaga, Creighton, Texas also on his list. He's got plenty of attention from big programs
Baylor has landed high scoring transfer MaCio Teague.
Bingo! That's what he is, at times a lights out shooter. Really good from the FT line as well so he has value at end of game situations. Often played out of position for Albany because Nichols (who transferred to FSU) this spring as well wasn't a true PG. Cremo is a true SG that has some vision and shot making ability. A specific role at KU could make all the difference
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BeddieKU23 said:
He's from my neck of the woods so I feel confident in my evaluation of him. Seen him play a ton over the past 3 years. He never went through the recruiting process so this is all new for him and from everything I've read locally he's got a ton of support wherever he goes.
Can really shoot the basketball, at times lights out. That's a trait lacking on this upcoming team.
Will be interesting to see how he views his role. If he's looking for 30 minutes a night its not happening. He would have a distinct role though and could absolutely help us win some games
I'd trust your overall eval on it, I haven't watched a single game of his.
You know my thoughts on Moore already. I'd think Cremo would instantly slot in ahead of Moore.
I would agree with that. I see Cremo (if he comes here) as someone who instantly joins the rotation. Duke even kicked the tires on him so you know that even the elite schools see his value.
Moore will be interesting. Hope he surprises me
40% of Cremo's games this year he made 3 or more three's.
He was the best shooter in the America East conference by a wide margin.
If Self offers I think he takes it
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Cremo will visit KU per Corky.
wowza
It's over with Langford turn out the lights.
That said, Cremo would be a quality addition.
He might be the best option given what's out there currently. Best option in terms of shooting, experienced guard. Definitely has Svi-like shooting ability from deep. Not a great athlete, decent defender in the American. If he wants to start I don't see that role at KU, he would be a quality rotation type
I'd listen to arguments that Cremo is better for KU next year than Langford would have been. Not saying I'd agree, but I'd listen.
Obviously Romeo is the better long term player and an NBA level talent but we are talking about a 22 y/o skilled finished product vs an 18 y/o freak athlete.
You can also ask Cremo to handle the ball some, whereas you don't get that with Romeo.
The bigger impact Romeo could have had was on defense but he would have needed to buy in and I'm not sure I get that vibe from him. More Wiggins than Jackson imo. Plus not to belabor the point but he is 18, guards rarely come in and dominate defensively as FR.
Cremo's greatest skill is our biggest need.
It's a good thing he's not a small guard, he's more 6'5ish the last time I saw him in February. His value to the team could absolutely compare to Tarik Black a few years back. No ego, lives in the gym. Some kids work hard, this is the type that is first in and last out. He lives to play basketball. That in itself is a valuable commodity to have on your team pushing young kids to work hard. I think he's someone that can average 6-7 points a game here while having a bigger impact as a teammate.
I know I was initially down on him if KU pursued but I get it from a Coaching perspective. There might not be a better kid available from a skill and character level
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How in the world did Louisville not win more with Donovan Mitchell on the roster? Hookers must be exhausting.
To Louisville's defense Mitchell never put it all together in College but he had plenty of moments where he was good. In the right fit, with a need for a player to emerge he took that chance and ran with it.
He's from my neck of the woods so I feel confident in my evaluation of him. Seen him play a ton over the past 3 years. He never went through the recruiting process so this is all new for him and from everything I've read locally he's got a ton of support wherever he goes.
Can really shoot the basketball, at times lights out. That's a trait lacking on this upcoming team.
Will be interesting to see how he views his role. If he's looking for 30 minutes a night its not happening. He would have a distinct role though and could absolutely help us win some games
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So Nike is really ponying up for Oregon. Stacked class already (#4, #18, #41, #70 recruits) and might add Brandon Williams + Okoro reclassing to 2018.
Stocking talent to play on national tv 5 times
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BeddieKU23 said:
BShark said:
Cremo will visit KU per Corky.
wowza
It's over with Langford turn out the lights.
That said, Cremo would be a quality addition.
He might be the best option given what's out there currently. Best option in terms of shooting, experienced guard. Definitely has Svi-like shooting ability from deep. Not a great athlete, decent defender in the American. If he wants to start I don't see that role at KU, he would be a quality rotation type
Cremo is a good player. He doesn't move the needle for this team if he signed with KU however he would have a specific role that can be useful.
I cannot stress enough the difference between landing a Top 5 talent such as Romeo to a grad transfer from the American East conference.
If Cremo is the best option for a year, that's fine. We have a need for a shooter.
Arizona lands PG grad transfer Justin Coleman. Sorry Alex Barcello your not good enough for Stumpy dumpy