BShark said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
Josh Green had 37 today. He’s rising quickly up my wish list. KU is going to need some scoring in 2019, and he gets buckets.
If Duke nut punches Self/KU for Hampton, Josh Green becomes a top target imo.
Landing either prospect has to be considered a win-win. Both would be insane and an option given they play different positions
BShark said:
Ramey to Texas. Bam right in the nads Mutards.
Damn. Expected though. Texas was the only team really after him which I think says something.. Ramey can be good in time but we all know Shaka doesn't help that development curve. You either show up good or else
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The high hopes of a Missouri Fan
in 2020 LOL
FarmerJayhawk said:
One time KU target Ike Obiagu leaving FSU. Terrific rim protector.
I hope we pursue. FSU was mighty high on him going forward
I'm shocked Doke was invited but I guess the interest in him was greater then anything written about him. He'll get his chance and he'll get workouts etc. This seems like one we are seeing the first step to him finding a professional career.
The power of KU's brand definitely helped him here.
FarmerJayhawk said:
@BeddieKU23 no problem. This late it’s always fun to post everything I hear just because it’s so chaotic. I so want to see the meltdown if somehow Romeo picks us.
Oh that would top any previous one for sure.
BShark said:
Doke too. Everyone but Vick. Doke getting an invite feels like a favor.
Just a sign he's not returning
Thanks for keeping us informed along the way.
Crazy how much pressure Indiana fans put on him to play for a 500 team
Of course but the decision hasn't really felt in ku' s favor for a while so that was the real point of my post.
FarmerJayhawk said:
I think I’m going to call it. Romeo to IU.
Sweet that's really been the case for weeks maybe months
Svi Devonte and malik get combine invites
Pretty much that would be crazy to convince them all to coexist. Won't count out bill and the gang until otherwise
jayballer73 said:
@BeddieKU23 Ya I know the one your talking about. - -Seems like he has a little knowledge. At least like you said he kept saying Dotson/Grimes - -Dotson/Grimes to KU. - -I'll just say it's not going to floor me if he announces to Indiana - -but we just can not say 100% for sure at this point - -there maybe some hidden thing we just don't know. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Yeah, this person has consistently doubled-down every time. Now saying he's known for a month..Grimes/Dotson those weren't ground breaking news, KU was favored almost every step of the way for both. Hard to compare what he's claiming to them.
With Romeo it certainly seems as though IU has the inside track. We will certainly know in about 3 days if there's anything to get excited about. I'll be glad its over as I'm sure everyone else will be who's followed this long-dragged-out recruitment.
FarmerJayhawk said:
BeddieKU23 said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
Norm is going to watch Precious this weekend. He likes KU quite a bit. UConn and FSU are teams to watch.
Have consistently heard he likes KU- especially Norm. This isn't the type of player we let go to a Uconn or FSU.. This is a top 5 player in his class I think when its all said and done
For sure. Norm is the man up there. It’s early but I like our chances.
Definitely I don't see this one ending soon. It's going to be interesting to see if the staff can land multiple players at the same position.. Hurt, Achiuwa, JRE. Maybe Achiuwa settles into being a big SF, although that's probably a bit wishful thinking there as he's continued to grow. Hopefully we keep on him this summer
BShark said:
BeddieKU23 said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
Norm is going to watch Precious this weekend. He likes KU quite a bit. UConn and FSU are teams to watch.
Have consistently heard he likes KU- especially Norm. This isn't the type of player we let go to a Uconn or FSU.. This is a top 5 player in his class I think when its all said and done
Norm's stomping grounds. If anyone can close him...
Great to hear that he likes KU, kind of unusual for someone from NY. Going to be a battle.
Jalen Carey liked Norm and KU as well at this point last year so yeah its early and a battle for sure. Of course Achiuwa is a different echelon of player so I'd imagine he's going to be a bigger priority
Maybe Doke will be able to develop into a more versatile defender this off-season if he returns. Hudy was starting the scratch the surface with his body this year.
His bad matchup with Spellman he wasn't 100% so its tough to get a full read how different he could have defended him if he wasn't limited. I don't think it would have been a big difference but we don't know. At least its a glaring weakness that can be addressed either here with our staff or wherever he ends up.
FarmerJayhawk said:
Norm is going to watch Precious this weekend. He likes KU quite a bit. UConn and FSU are teams to watch.
Have consistently heard he likes KU- especially Norm. This isn't the type of player we let go to a Uconn or FSU.. This is a top 5 player in his class I think when its all said and done
Combine Invites go out today. Could be as many as 6 KU players invited.. We'll see.
The most interest will be whether Doke gets one or not
Well Matt is gone from 247.. Nothing gained nothing lost.
One poster really doubling down on saying its KU. Same one that was right on Grimes/Dotson.
Man monday is going to be something
dylans said:
@mayjay How do you possibly think there could be a level playing field if players are allowed endorsement money in college? There is absolutely no way any non-blue blood could compete. It would make the gap between the haves and the have nots too great.
Isn't the NCAA tourney already that? What non P5 or high level program has won the tourney.
justanotherfan said:
WKU could be sneaky good next year. Potential tournament team if they can put it all together.
WSU will have a completely new rotation next season. Will be interesting how their staff handles that much turnover.
I wouldn't be surprised if both of those statements are true. WKU did well in the NIT. I think some of its nucleus returns outside of Coleby.
Newman has an Agent now I see. Only one left that we haven't heard is Vick. Who knows he'll probably use La La
The declaring and returning with eligibility needs some work.
It could be as simple as a deadline that is implemented after the combine ends. Say kids have a 1-2 week interval to decide on staying in the draft or going back to College. Not all kids get accepted to the combine but you see others getting NBA workouts on the side. They could also put a hard date in around the time summer school starts as well to coincide with schools off-season priorities.
That way your not leaving coaches completely out to dry. We are seeing record transfers, HS kids reclassifying late into the summer etc that recruiting and adding players seems like a never ending cycle. Didn't Whitman come to KU on a Tuesday and leave by a Friday? Kidding of course but we see programs adding players at what used to be dead periods.
Things have changed, I don't think this particular change would be that difficult.
If this recent article is to be believed KU isn't dumping them. $191 million on the table. Yeah money talks.
The FBI is worried about the crumbs instead of the whole pie
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The best part of the report was the one about letting College Players enter the draft and come back to school if they go undrafted, retaining eligibility. This idea needs some work behind it- like deadlines for returning but I do think this was one of the best recommendations made for the kids.
I was a fan of harsher penalties for coaches and cheaters. This seemed to be aimed at the Rick Pitino's, Jim Boeheim's and others of the world as well as the assistant coaches that were caught up in the FBI sweep. Nothing will hit harder to coaches and administrations if the penalties are severe enough to make them think twice. As it was, there was no fear for them to do the right thing. This entire system revolved around good faith. The doors have fallen off that train. They will be unable to hop-skip-and-jump to their next payday somewhere else and keep this corruption going. I hope this is enforced and put in.
Other things in this report were a hot pile of garbage. The OAD rule is not the issue, it seems more of a headline piece to distract from other bigger issues. Kids should absolutely have the right to go to the NBA out of HS. There seems to be movement from the NBA according to league sources. 2020 draft could be the end as is being discussed. If the OAD rule is eliminated see ya later to the Top 20 or so prospects every year in the College Game.
Where in this report was their anything about Shoe Companies. Transparency? Oh that sounds so big. Wow give me a break. This report just slid right on by that big Pandora's Box. Of course the money tied to the NCAA with Shoe Companies and Universities is just too much to ruffle up.
At least the report called out the NCAA enforcement for being incompetent.
Posting where my talents are better used!
Nevada adds Old Dominion transfer Trey Porter as a grad transfer. Huge need for them and if their 3 to-be seniors return this is a Top 10 squad next season.
Ibi Watson of Michigan goes to Dayton. Sit 1 to play 2
DeSean Murray of Auburn goes to Western Kentucky as a grad transfer. Big pickup for them
Ricky Torres a Juco All-American signs with Wichita St to become the Shockers 18 thousandth roster movement. Probably a good chance he starts
Kcmatt7 said:
Offseason is off to a hot start.
Only 7 more months as well. Not that I'm counting
mayjay said:
Moved my post to this new thread:
@BeddieKU23 In another leap by ESPN, they say the recent indictments included allegations about assistant coaches (true) including KU (not so fast, there, Bub).
Saw that as well. Apparently the victim card isn't working too well for us
wissox said:
@BeddieKU23 At the end of the season they were playing well enough to play MSU to the wire twice and beat Purdue. They get a freshmen back who was hurt who was playing well before his early season injury. Trice will be back too, but I'm not super high on him. They've had some major recruiting misses so I think this is a big season for Gard.
Definitely I thought they pissed down their leg in the Big-10 tourney against Michigan St. They looked better at that point then at any I saw them before. The Big-10 at this point looks down a considerable amount atm so I wouldn't be surprised to see them do well in the league next year
The NCAA commission released its findings today.
KUSTEVE said:
@BeddieKU23 Why do they call it USC Upstate? Because they didn't want to call it North South Carolina.
That would have been a bit confusing. However I'm still confused why its called Upstate
James Banks who transferred from Texas lands at Georgia Tech. Sit one to play 2
Another former Longhorn Jacob Young lands at Rutgers. Sit one to play 2
As expected Keyshawn Woods who started at Wake Forest goes to Ohio St as a grad transfer.
Iowa St lands Colorado St transfer Prentiss Nixon who averaged 16ppg last year. Sit one to play one. This looks like a move to cover Lindell Wigginton's short stay in Ames.
Oklahoma St adds Mike Cunningham, a grad transfer from USC Upstate who averaged 13ppg. Immediately eligble
wissox said:
If Ethan Happ comes back, the Badgers will find themselves back in the top 25 I'm confident. They were playing pretty well by the end of the year.
I was going to mention them. Threw caution to the wind because of the unknowns with the injuries. It's definitely a big year for their coach keeping his job one would think right?
Kcmatt7 said:
@BeddieKU23 Agreed. I just think this is the most talented team Bill has had to work with in a while. And he has been seemingly overachieving lately. Probably not a great way to look at it, but I really do expect a lot this season.
Definitely I'm drawn to the unknown. Lots of paper talent
Great post as usual
Kcmatt7 said:
Nevada should be top 10. Those brothers are studs.
And they played most of the late season without their PG, having to shift one of the twins to PG. They add two high scoring transfer guards as well. If all 3 return its definitely a Top 10 squad
dylans said:
@BeddieKU23 In your opinion who are the under-rated teams? Gonzaga and? If 21 of the top 25 are over-rated who do you think are the sleepers?
Good question. So many incomplete rosters. I know my post seemed doom and gloom but it wasn't intended to be that way.
The AAC was dismissed. Cincinnati, Houston, Memphis all return good talent and with Wichita & Uconn likely to be down they have good chances to be ranked.
NC St is an intriguing team. Adding 4 transfers and 3 Top 100 kids. Big talent shift.
Texas Tech is not going away. Beard will add more transfer talent to compete
Xavier, Creighton & Marquette from the Big East l
Washington & Utah from the Pac-12 as Arizona, UCLA & USC all take steps back
Forgot to mention Nevada who was in the Top 25 list. If their 3 players return they should be good again
Kcmatt7 said:
@BeddieKU23 Parrish has us at #1 as well I think. If Doke comes back that is. But he left us at #1 even while assuming Newman and Vick left.
I think people are a little too high on our transfers. But I honestly expect us to be a top 3 team this season.
We'll have the talent of a Top 5 team especially if Doke returns. Langford would put us over the top.
I I think our ceiling drops a notch if De Sousa isn't eligible. Perimeter shooting is the biggest team oriented weakness I see right now.
There's no way KU should or deserve to be #1 right now. If Azubuike returns and Langford signs then there's a case for being #1 but this will still be a team replacing 4 of 5 starters from its Final 4 team.
Gonzaga actually is the team that has benefited the most this off-season. Tillie & Hachimura returning was huge for them. With Perkins, Norvell & Kispert also returning they have 5 starters back. They add a high scoring transfer & a Top 100 big man as well.
There's no way Villanova will be the same team unless Divicenzo & Spellman both return.
Duke, Kentucky- overrated just like every year. Relying on freshman in a down class, please be my guest
Tennessee makes some sense. Return a ton although Barnes always has a tough time living up to expectation
Virginia- returns largely the same team that couldn't score. Must replace 2 starters and no established bench. Pass
UNC got a bump when Johnson decided to return. Little looks like a stud OAD. Will be a young team.
Michigan St will be fine but is being overrated this early.
Auburn- no way #11
Kansas St- Should be a top 15 team by the looks of it
West Virginia- Nope. Carter & Miles replacements- Beetle Bolden and who??
Virginia Tech- Should be good, #14 is high.
Oregon- No denying the talent infusion. Season makes or brakes on how interested Bol Bol is at playing. Louis King is a stud
Syracuse- Bubble team at best once again especially if Battle stays in the draft. Jalen Carey will be a star in time.
Michigan- Desperately needs Charles Matthews to return. Not really a top 25 team without
Loyola - Hard to imagine them duplicating their success but they have a solid nucleus coming back.
Clemson- Should be solid if the seniors return
Florida St- Underrated especially if Cofer gets a 6th year.
LSU- Lots of young talent. Wildcard bunch
Miss St- No thanks
TCU- Will be good once again, a bit underrated
Butler- Lose too much
Purdue- Losing the majority of your team. Metcalf somehow missed that
It's such a dumpster fire list. But reading who made it says it all.
His shooting ability this early is definitely a plus. Would like to see him continue to develop physically and seems how he's young he's got plenty of time for that. If Self is offering this early it must mean serious interest. Would be shocked if he ends up anywhere else
BShark said:
I won't be surprised if Thompson pops early (for KU duh).
I certainly get that vibe as well.
No kidding.
Key was really good as a freshman, I believe he declared and came back to school. Shooting numbers were down as well as his minutes. I was a fan of his in HS and I know KU had some interest before.
Slater with a CB pick for Achiuwa to Florida St. Wondering what the connection is there.. Probably selling the Bacon/Issac success
Quade Green's mother says her son will return to Kentucky.
That could put a kibosh on Haggans going to 18 class
Braxton Key transferring from Alabama. Injury sidelined his 17-18 season big time. Big body, former top 50 recruit
Texas Tech is interested in Wichita St bad boy transfer Austin Reaves
Transfer list over 515. Seems to have slowed a bit before classes end. I expect to see more action picking up
jayballer73 said:
@BShark I've been hearing a lot about this Green kid - -people saying he is a stud.- fill me in what position does he play? - -Was he the PG ? - -just curious. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Won't be in College long. Plays at IMG where Silvio was before he came to KU. His size and wingspan make him an ideal SG at the NBA level. Did well at the Nike Hoop Summit recently. KU has been on him for a while. UK involved now as well. Elite wing