His size and defense will have him on the radar for the NBA at some point. Could be a similar development arc to Vick. Garrett's goals should be about adding good muscle weight and working tirelessly at that jump shot.
Cheick is a personal failure of mine. Saw him play a ton in HS and was just convinced he had the tools to be great with Self's help. Boy did that end up wrong
Somehow we always come back to Garrett and I smile. Will be giddy if we get at least 3 years with that stud
Cliff was a poor defender and always had one foot out the door IMO. His family helped the other leg.
Cheick is such a crappy situation. But generally agree he never gained the trust of his coaches or players. What can we do, in both cases we didn't get nearly enough time with either for Self to truly make his mark on them. It's not like Josh Jackson came to KU and Self transformed him. Most top talents don't come to College and have that situation change them. It's the Frank Mason's of the world's and the Landen Lucas's that help prove Self is the real deal.
Good point, Georgetown must hit a home-run with whoever it hires. It's a really strong recruiting area that has some nice prospects in future classes coming up. A lot of local recruits have been going elsewhere because of JT3's style of play and the general lack of momentum within the program. Ewing definitely would be a big name with Big's. As you stated not sure how he'd transition from the NBA to College. There has been a trend so far with coaches getting hired with limited coaching experience though..
Definitely which was kind of shocking. Even Collins was apart of that and to most KU fans Collins is sacred. But the Young's ate them up because they didn't have successful NBA career's. It truly shows how narrow some kids/parents view things from. Being 24/7/365 KU fans we see things differently, not as "Black and White" as the young's made it seem about Self with point guards
I was shocked Jeter was that highly rated coming out of HS. But we also have to remember some kids are rated high on what they think the level they can get to in the future. Obviously it seems a lot of evals missed the mark on him to this point.
Slim pickings on that team. Govan is a 6'10 big that improved in his Soph year. He can step out and shoot some. I think Georgetown will get someone that will energize the area and keep what little roster is still on scholarship
I agree, we have no idea what Bragg will bring. I'm just trying to stay positive because anything he does bring that's positive will help this team win tonight. An offensive rebound and a put-back, making FT's, an open mid-range jumper, getting a key block.. Those are things we know he can do when he's engaged.
And I also agree about the national narrative. Everyone must be numb to their recruiting ways and just figure attrition is going to happen, or some are not going to pan out. Who knows, KU does seem to get a lot of flack for its OAD's that didn't pan out. Hopefully Josh helps restore some of the national reputation.
If you read their board, they are definitely in negative mode post the loss. But your right, we don't hear a lot of people talking negatively about it. If Bolden leaves though we may see some headlines..
I can't imagine anyone around the program thought Bragg's season would end up where it has to this point. It still seems the staff has confidence in him the way they were talking him up for this tournament and what kind of role he can still bring. Tonight is another opportunity for him to impact the team..
Luke is definitely a better offensive player but he's a liability on defense. I think that's the only concern for him leaving this season with scouts. He's also not an elite athlete nor does he have ideal size..
Allen bombed trying to be a PG both in on-court performance and mentally. He's been exposed coming back and has IMO no chance of restoring his draft stock to where it was after his freshman year. He can certainly come back and erase a lot of concerns about his game with another year. If I was a NBA GM I wouldn't want anything to do with him, ticking time bomb always.
I saw that meter in the Duke thread yesterday. Was interesting to see the intel on Allen at this point, insuiating he might be back again
He scored 100 points in 2 seasons in limited minutes in both. Yup feature scorer in the Pac-12 a year from now:stuck_out_tongue:
Exactly, they have some really lofty expectations of Chase if we are taking what he's shown on the court at face-value..
Don't fret, people are just speculating because they didn't decide in 2.2 seconds. He has to get his release first and I'm sure Missouri and his father are negotiating behind the scenes.
JT3 is out at Georgetown. :astonished:
Father says he'll be in the Pac-12.
Interesting to note they want a school where he'll play 30 minutes and be a featured offensive player. I just died laughing reading that. 30 minutes? Maybe if you stop flopping. Featured offensive player, maybe if you were skilled enough for a coach to make that happen. Neither of which Jeter is currently ready to do.
A lot of ESPN heads had a Duke/UNC final. That worked out well
And I doubt he's ever seen him play (Harris), or Durham for that fact. Blake Harris doesn't get over 20 high major D-1 scholarships by "not being good enough". And I would never question Crean's ability to find lower ranked guards and turning them into something especially if they have a reputation for being an athlete as Durham does.
The pedestal that he puts kids on to be worthy of playing at some of these schools is ridiculous.
Watching Shakur Juiston, had 29 points, 12 boards, 4 assists, a few blocks in Hutch's win.
Athletically he stands out, its hard to believe he is a JUCO. He runs the floor extremely well and is always looking for an outlet pass off a rebound. Love his quickness to guard multiple positions.
Hutch also has a lefty guard Haynes-Jones that is signed to Wichita St. He had 26 and looks like he'll fit right in with Marsha there.
Hutch plays again at 6pm CT tomm
Harris was already at NC St since his release..
Duke board also saying he wants Duke to recruit him..
I think FSU needs a few players to leave for Walker to have an open scholarship. Isaac is certainly gone, Bacon is being told he's a 2nd round pick again but he's clearly got NBA talent.. Rathan-Mayes is old (23) already and could play internationally. I think all 3 are gone but even then he would need another opening. FSU also has 6,7 guards on its roster already, although Walker would certainly push for a starting spot regardless.
Georgia Tech I think is the team to watch for him. Closer to home, Pastner has always recruited well and he had a pretty remarkable season for their standards especially with the roster he took over. There's a good chance he could go there and start from Day-1
That's funny, who knows what the other Ball's will do if Steve is gone. Most likely they stay at UCLA but with USC's resurgence and strong class going forward we could see them skip across town.
I do think Alford goes to Indiana which is why we haven't seen Indiana get a coach yet until UCLA is out of the tourney.
Walker is good, kind of in the mold of a Wayne Selden. I don't think he's leaving the South, I think Georgia Tech & FSU have him in their sights.
Riley, another talented player but we have Preston who has a much bigger ceiling and is a better player. Riley is going to be a heck of a College Player though. His size makes him unattractive to the NBA unless he adds more of a perimeter game to his arsenal.
Will be interesting to see if he sticks if Alford goes to Indiana. There could be some movement in that class that could be of interest.. Spring is going to be fun
I caught a few Blake Harris games in the fall that's how I knew about him. After looking him up I couldn't believe he was only in the 100's on most places. He's much better then what Ryan is labeling him and I trust that evaluation of him.
And what he's saying about Washington is false. They lost their coach, they have no choice but to let him out of his NLI. If Romar was still here, he'd be at Washington and nothing would ever be mentioned about it. Not this "they aren't sad he's leaving". Bogus stuff being put out by him there.
Juwan Evans went pro for Oklahoma St (Not surprisingly)
yeah, you already know how much I feel Ryan misses the point on kids. If they are not elite talents in the Top 50 he's saying they suck. He's a top 100ish talent, crazy
Ideally Blake at KU is the backup getting experience for the future.
Ball pressure on their guards might be another effective method of limiting a good entry pass into the post.
Blake Harris opens it up
ESPN 100 point guard Blake Harris has been granted his release from Washington and will reopen his recruitment, he told ESPN on Tuesday.
"I received my release from Washington," Harris told ESPN's Paul Biancardi. "The reason I committed there was the coaching staff. Now that they are not there anymore, I am opening up my recruiting."
BILL SELF HELLO :open_mouth: :open_mouth: :grinning:
Fascinating matchup if it happens. The only way they will be matched up will be if Haas subs in and slides Swanigan to the 4.
Otherwise Vince Edwards will have the bulk of the assignment on Jackson and vice versa. If Purdue does go to the double big set I'm sure it's going to look difficult to defend but its no different then Motley & Acuil Jr at Baylor and KU found ways to win both times.
Foul trouble on both sides is going to be something to watch. Do both teams go at each others bigs?
It would be wise if KU was aggressive and drove at Swanigan as he had 13 games in the season of 4 or more fouls. He's not a consistent rim protector, either is Haas so KU should absolutely try and play to that weakness as much as it can. I'm sure Purdue is thinking the same thing about attacking and kicking out to its shooters. Both teams have a similar way of scoring.
that's great.. hasn't this been the mood for many months now, at least we are still playing basketball games
My only gripe with the late start Thursday is having to be up roughly 4 hrs for work after the game ends. And throw in adrenaline from the game and I'm looking at even less sleep but a KU win will make all of that lack of sleep even better!
Otherwise don't have any issue this has been the way for many years. Maybe we were usually playing on a Friday and it mattered less because generally more people have the weekend off..
Good points!
He is a JUCO recruit from Hutchinson CC. 6'7, elite rebounder with excellent passing ability and athleticism. He originally played AAU ball with Isiah Briscoe in NJ before a tragic event in his life (death of his brother) apparently slowed his career. His recruitment has really picked up and KU has offered after watching him practice and play recently. A lot has been written about him being a really good kid with a high BBIQ that is a great teammate. I really hope we land this fella
I'm kind of excited to see what Coleby could do next year.
He's a junkyard dog type that will basically be going through his first (hopeful) full off-season with the team. He might benefit the most from a summer with Hudy + playing games in Italy. I would expect Hudy will be able to really work on his legs and get that explosion back that he had at Ole Miss which was part of what I was excited about when he first came here. We'll see, I know Self values the Coleby's of the world..
I'm looking at what Coleby currently brings, effort, rebounding, some rim protection, a big body and somebody that knows the system. He won't be a dominate scorer but he does what is needed of him. I think that's good enough to rely on him for 10-15 minutes a game if needed. We could do worse IMO.
Juiston would be possibly the best signing of the spring. He's a need for this team in the post.
I would personally pass on Bolden but that's going off his effort/performance this year. As you noted the year off to learn, mature, and become a better player could have a huge difference and KU could need that type of player coming into the program in 2018. If he's available it will be Self's decision to make..
They have 6 of them, pretty impossible to expect to cover them all. But guys could play to the scouting report and know that these 3 in particular are not going to take/make many 2 point shots in a game. I'm sure Self and company will notice and plan for their action. Up to the guys to bring the effort on defense
yup the way Bragg has played this year well I'll just say politely he is possibly the most overrated McDonald's All American we've ever signed.. I'll refrain from further comment
Nevada would be a good spot for Jeter, he clearly needs to drop a level of competition.
I think he's the biggest flopper for a big man I've ever seen. Leave that where you learned it.
Bolden, TCU can have him although they have stockpiled talent in the front-court. Not saying a change of scenery and a year off wouldn't help him tremendously but he'd be competing with no less then 5 guys at the PF/C position. They also don't have a scholly at the moment without attrition. He's probably better then the 5 he'd be competing against but I couldn't tell you that based on how he played/acted on the court/sidelines this season.
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Tremont Waters is focused on Kansas and Duke, source says. 'At least one of them isn't getting Trevon Duval'
Don't know how valid I consider that information..
up to 28.2% that is up from this morning when I voted
Diving into some stats about Purdue.
Obviously Swanigan is important in limiting.
Rebounding is another key. Purdue is 27-1 in the last 2 years in games it out-rebounds the opponent.
The 3rd key- force Purdue into tough perimeter shots. Why? Take their 3 starters for instance.
Dakota Mathias - 61% of his made baskets are from 3-pointers
PJ Thompson- 62% of his made baskets are from 3-pointers
Ryan Cline- 80% of his made baskets are from 3-pointers
KU struggles against the 3, have all year. Not sure we'll be able to limit them if they want to chuck them and they will, its proven to be a vital part of their offense much like KU uses the 3. We'll have to hope they make less then normal..
We'll see. Doke & Preston have NBA potential that has to be realized before leaving. I think recruits might be in the wait and see approach. We might be again, relying on some high prized guys waiting until spring
But in General we should have minutes to sell..
Yeah most of the info about McCormack was about Maryland. Looks like they have an edge with the relationship. Says he's big on relationships.. We'll see how involved KU gets. The kid has lost a considerable amount of weight this year and looked better because of it I thought. I think he's someone the staff should really be on
Marcus Garrett on being named the 2016-2017 Gatorade Boys Basketball Player of the Year in Texas
Translation = We are going to love this kid for possibly 4 years
Behemoth McCormack mentioned KU as one of the schools recruiting him the hardest..
Huh? can't be right. West Virginia doesn't have schollie's
Their insiders would be the last people I'd believe, . If he does come back good for him, but despite the injuries he had he was stellar year and I can't imagine he's going to pass up on the $. He's ready for the league physically, athletically. It will be stunning if he did go back
That's true I think they are different players though. Bridges is the type of athlete the NBA wants and IMO is a better player. Are there any legit reasons the fans feel this way? I really can't see Bridges passing up going around the late lottery