EJ and DG junior year stats somewhat similar...
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@Texas-Hawk-10 hopefully we'll get one more year to evaluate him.
@HighEliteMajor DG is a lot more EJ than he is FM3.
I'm not sure he Is a born leader.
I believe both will be back next year.
@wissox no
Hall of fame coach
National exposure
World class facilities
Elite strength coach
Outstanding peer leadership
All factors
And now we know the rest of the story...
Why Frankamp bailed.
@Crimsonorblue22 yep
How did all of the recruiting experts miss this kid.
Find of a lifetime for Townsend.
None of us will Forget Frank Mason III
Right now, some young Jayhawk Fan is shooting alone on a court saying 3,2,1....Frank Mason for Thhhrrrreeeeeeeeeeeee
Next up, Juiston commits.
@Crimsonorblue22 my guess is even he doesn't know for sure
I wish I could respond to y'all tweets the way I really wanted to 😩🤦🏾♂️😂
D Graham
cryptic, it could mean anything.
If he was going why couldn't he respond the way he wanted to?
is he indicating he is going to end up doing what he didn't want to do?
My original numbers were off. I was going off of memory and thinking ESPN was founded in 1972. It was 1979.
So a corrected report would look something like this:
For the first 40 National Championships, 16 of 40 were won by EST zone teams. That is a 40% success rate for EST zone teams.
ESPN came along in 79, and those 40 championships pre-date their arrival.
Following the arrival of ESPN In 1979, 9 of the next 10 Champions were from the EST zone. Success Rate of 90%
From 1979 to 2017 33 of 39 champions have been EST zone teams. (Two of those six outliers were Kansas in 88/08 )
That is an 85% success rate for EST Zone teams.
19 of the last 20 (Kansas being the outlier) have been EST zone teams. EST success rate of 95%.
WHY? I don't know. I can just see that it IS. There are strong arguments that the best talent is on the east coast and that the best programs are on the east coast. If so, I wonder if that was not the case pre 1979 when the greater majority of the championships were won by teams west of the Mississippi.
EDIT: POST SCRIPT:
in an attempt to the skew the numbers the best I could for non EST zone teams.
The best tournament run for Non EST zone schools after the arrival of ESPN was from 1988-2008 when 6 of the 21 winners were from Non EST zone programs. So during that time the EST zone teams success rate was a measly 71%
@JayHawkFanToo what % of tournament participants are from the EST vs the field? Last time I looked at it for a few years consecutively it was about 50% EST and 50% all other time zones.
One would think even "chance" would lead to a higher % of success from a non EST zone school.
Also, I'm not going to debate the why or how the percentage is so high for EST because I dont know and do not have time to study it properly. I'm simply stating the observation I have. Eastern time zones win more championships--it is a mandate.
Kansas would not have beat UNC in my opinion. Too much interior presence. Too deep. Whistles would have gone against us.
Obviously a hot shooting night can take anyone down, so I won't say it wasn't possible.
@mayjay HOPE YOU know I was just giving you a hard time :smiley:
@mayjay is an east coaster. you can't trust him. he's likely biased.
@BigBad I understand he didn't recruit nationally. I don't agree that is why he didn't win a championship before. Roy had plenty of talent throughout his years, save maybe the 98-2000 seasons.
Roy gets 3 in 14 at UNC and 0 in 14 at Kansas. Go figure. We have bad luck, I suppose.
All I have to say about is 14 of 15 of the last tournament champions are from the Eastern time zone.
40 of the last 45 are.
93% and 88%, respectively.
So when completing your Tournament Bracket Challenge, you would be foolish not to pick an east coast team.
Wife's bracket. Probably has watched 40 minutes of ball all year
Roy should have one at least one here on 2003 if kids could have hit free throws.
He probably had the team to do it in 1997 and 2002 as well.
@dylans yes sir. I'm same time he spent at Kansas he has already doubled his rings. Always makes one curious.
@approxinfinity cool. Done. That should be a very attainable goal.
I generally don't look in this discussion thread. I bet a lot of folks do not either. I just happened up on it.
What is the total amount you are trying to get to @approxinfinity ? $150?
When I first read it I thought it said ACC and I was not liking what I was seeing...
Sports
Report: Wichita State could leave for the AAC as soon as next season
Rob Dauster,NBC Sports 12 hours ago
Wichita State is in advanced talks to leave the Missouri Valley for the American Athletic Conference, and the move could happen as early as next season, according to a report from Sports Illustrated. There’s strong mutual interest between both sides, and sources said that a final decision could be made within the next month or in as few as the next two weeks. Any decision would need to be approved by the American Athletic Conference’s presidents, but the mutual interest is strong enough where neither side sees any looming issues. ...
in other news Connecticut down one with a minute and Wichita State leaving for the AAC.
@Crimsonorblue22 If I didn't think every rebound was mine I probably wouldn't get beat up as much.
Yes, January 2015. I took two years off because of that scare. I'm back to playing 2 hours every Monday and Wednesday at the rec. My brother is 40 and hasn't quit yet, so I can't let him outlast me!!
@mayjay No, they said "Coach, we think you need a timeout. Your face is getting really red, and there is a crawdad in that ditch over there I want to chase"
@Crimsonorblue22 yep a five year old, 12 & 10, and one last one coming in August this year. All boys. Full basketball team now if you count me :smirk:
I'm coaching 5 year olds soccer
I showed them tape of Frank taking it to the rack and told them if they don't lay it out on the line like that every time they need to just hang it up and go home.
Is that what you mean ?!!?
I have not seen it elsewhere...
Dixon has those kids playing hard.
Won the NIT. I fully expect them to be competing for the 3rd place in the league next year. What a turnaround for Dixon. Now, let's hope he doesn't steal any Texas recruits from us.
@Crimsonorblue22 some of us (me) will never be able to have awards like Frank The Tank Mason
@CRH107 Treat people well, build relationships, network, and interview well. Goes an awful long way.
My undergrad degrees are in Psychology and Spanish Literature.
A friend of mine used to always tell me with my psychology degree and a quarter I could get a cup of coffee.
also, Keep in mind with Frank Mason specifically: He just completed a four year interview with national exposure at the highest level.
He demonstrated a work ethic that was second to none, exceptional leadership skills, and the right attitude to be successful.
If he pursues a career outside of basketball that aligns with his aptitude, the sky is the the limit.
Non-specialized degrees and certifications often lead to non-specialized career fields.
There isn't a 'common career field' for liberal arts degrees. They can end up doing just about anything; oftentimes, in careers where their degrees actually have no bearing on them getting the job. Once in that job, their performance can heed specialization and certain levels of "professionalism."
An unspecialized college degree, in my opinion, is often no more than a nice piece of paper and some information to start building a resume with. It sometimes opens doors for you, but probably less so than the relationships and networking you can build while on campus.
Just my perspective. I'm sure there are many more thoughts on this.
Forgot how good that feels. Can't believe it is almost 10 years ago.
I find some solace knowing that Frank is still going out on top this year.
He is what I have always admired about college basketball.
The four year window of time where we witness the maturation process on so many levels.
Players like Frank, Sherron, Perry, Landen, Darnell, Withey, & Kahn are why I love this program so much. There are many others I could list, but ya'll know them already.
Video of a Chicago recruit
Bring Tex Winter back.
Bill Self can also now go into every PG recruits house and tell them that he took two unranked Point Guards committed to App State and Towson and turned them into the best guards in the country and a POY ALL American PG. Sure hope that hits home with some guys moving forward.
We are always going to faced with the issue of kids who want immediate playing time and that will always play a role.
@BShark Sexton is an SEC kid who sees a loaded back court at Kansas. Also Avery's NBA success and ties will help him land some talent, imo.
If Self continues his trend of 4/1 offense and guard freedom, I anticipate seeing more elite guards signing here in the future.
@wissox But in response to your post, the team was better with JJ than Selden.
Selden had too many disappearing acts. JJ Played incredibly consistently after he got his teeth into it.
@wissox is Oregon Trail familiar to you?
@wissox I have to know....so, are you still operating on the original DOS, or what :+1:
@BeddieKU23 of the offers I saw, I liked our chances.
@drgnslayr Nadiir Tharpe? Brannen Greene? I never decided if they went forward or backward...
Could have been lined up before the tournament even started. Self has been on the recruiting trail within the last few weeks.