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@Texas-Hawk-10

I get and respect what you saying. Plus the game was for a good cause. Look I'm not trying to the butt head even though it seems I am.

I just don't know why you play this game? I doesn't even count, but MU basket just took a big step in the KC area because of this game. Tell me what KU gained besides experience? I'm cool as I don't live in the KC area, Yet KU fans that do? Well get used to a heavy dose of MU basketball. Don't think your going to tune in to the local sports stations or nightly news expecting KU love. Cause you isn't going to get it. Get ready for a big dose of MU basketball.

@jayballer54

So you want KU to play top 25 teams in exhibition games?

@HighEliteMajor

And oh for the record I would never raise a knife to any of my body parts.

The only think KU gained from playing this game is experience as some of our KU brethren have pointed out to me. Yet for an exhibition game?

You really want KU playing top 25 teams in the exhibition season?

@HighEliteMajor

And if KU lost we would hear nothing from you. It's easy to claim check mate because KU won.

Yet what if KU lost? This was just an exhibition game. Yet this game would have cost KU so much if the final score was different. And yet it was just an exhibition.

I agree with you on one front if KU is going to sacrifice so much then just play in the regular season so at the very least it counts for something.

You think KU has bragging rights after this game? Well then enjoy your morning KC star paper in the morning. Doubt KU gets much love. In fact enjoy the media sports outlets in KC from here on out. Cause KU fans and you are going to get a big dose of MU basketball.

But hey KU fans showed they are the most giving fans.

@BShark

When I said set? Meaning who's has a higher ceiling to get better?

I don't know I let you answer it.

So you cats are ok with playing a pontetial top 25 team in the exhibition season? Not only that but against MU? Who has everything to gain and nothing to lose? You want this every season? You want KU to stop playing pushovers and play nothing but top 25 teams every game?

Please help me understand?

@BShark

Last I heard KU fans were kicking the crap out of MU fans in charitable donations.

Last time I checked.

Thanks for the focus KU brethren. I guess my beef is this was a game played that should count for something for KU. I get the experience. You butt heads won me over on that one. Yet if KU is going to play this game it should count? I don't know boys and girl I'm not sure this type of game should be an exitbion type game.? I'm not for playing MU but if we are then let's make it count for something..

As I still think MU gained everything from this game and KU nothing. Maybe I'm wrong? Hey it happens.

@HawkChamp

Hey I've respected you in the past and I respect you now. So I hope right.

Can I ask you a question though. Are you ok with KU playing such a tough exhibition game. I mean if KU loses its bad. Right? I don't know just trying to make a good conversation.

I like what your saying though.

@jayballer54

That is strong medicine. Good stuff. You make a good point.

Yet can you see where I'm coming from? Why give MU the love?

@BShark

I'm sorry I didn't quite understand your post. I'm I bit slow. I'll need layman terms. No serious I'm not sure what your point is?

@jayballer54

In non-con games no. They should be tune up games. Think KU just beat a very young an talented MU team and it counts for nothing.

Now KU fans are going to hear how great the MU team can be. You're not going to hear much about KU and their win.

I just don't see how KU gained anything from this, other than showing that KU fans are some of the must giving fans of any.

Maybe that is what I should focus on?

@jayballer54

I hope your right. Because I'm telling you. The KU fans that live in the KC area you about to get a big dose of MU basketball.

@KUSTEVE

Seriously who did you walk away with more impressed with?

Remember MU is young and very talented. KU is pretty much set.

Should KU play this type of exhibition type of game? Especially against a team that has the talent to beat and nothing to lose?

Who has more to gain? MU or KU? MU is young and talented so they get the benefit of the doubt. KU is kind of set.

Do feel comfortable playing this MU team in the tournament?

@BShark

Let's not forget the 7 fouls? LOL

@HawkChamp

In an exhibition game? I would rather play a team that I know KU can beat. Not play somebody that has the talent and nothing to lose, yet everything to gain.

I get it. It was a major fund raiser type event. I think the last totals were over a couple million. Good stuff.

Yet who really benefited from this game KU or MU?

@BShark

I'm not that shallow of a person. Yet I do know that as a fan you love the experience. You love reading articles and watching stuff on your team. Am I wrong? Perception is Everything. Sadly MU painted a picture with a little more seasoning they are to beloved.

So even though KU played the game and won they gained nothing. Well except that our fans are very charitable fans. However I'm not ESPN and the talking heads will remember that.

@BShark

I get it your a fiery person. Yet should exhibition games be this tough? Isn't the noncon Schedule used for toughness building?

Aren't exhibition games used for tune ups? '

MU had nothing to lose? KU had everything to lose?

I'm also afraid that even though KU are the victors. Come tomorrow you and I are gong to hear nothing but how special MU basketball can be this year.

@HawkChamp

You make the right point. All the pressure was on KU. Should an exhibition game have that much merit. I know your giddy but what if KU lost? It's easy to pound the chest when our Jayhawks win?

Yet MU came out with nothing to lose and KU came out with everything to lose. Glad to see our Jayhawks responded.

yet is it worth it?

@BShark

By the way it is a great question.

@BShark

Hey you have to believe what you must. I disagree.

So KU won now we have bragging rights? Right? @HighEliteMajor would say so. Yet when the Monday edition of the KC star comes out tomorrow what will it say? Will it say MU so close? Will it say MU to young right now? Will it say MU had KU just ran out of gas? Will it say MU has proven it can be special this year?

So what did KU gain? I mean they won. Will the KC star say KU wins again? Will they say KU just to good? Will they say KU continues its dominance of MU?

What would've happened if KU had lost this game? Well I know I would feel sorry for KU fans living in the the KC area. Because even if KU went on to win the Big 12 again? It would have been yea but you couldn't beat MU. So MU is the champion of the Big 12.

So @HighEliteMajor what does KU gain from playing and winning this game? What relief? Is the talking heads of the KC media going to be like well KU beat MU so now we know they are legit? Are they going to say well KU outlasted MU so we know their on their way to being a great team?

No starting tomorrow we KU fans are going to hear about how much potential MU has. How close they are. How this could be a special season for MU basketball.

So I ask again @HighEliteMajor what did KU gain? To answer your question? KU fans out gave the MU fans for the hurricane relief. Nothing more and nothing less. Come tomorrow all the talk is going to be about MU basketball.

KU basketball gained nothing by playing this game other than showing they are a charitable fan base.

Was it worth it?

Playing MU is like your daughter being stranded on a dark lonely highway, and being picked up by a MU fan. Sure she isn't stranded anymore but is she really safe?

KU playing MU does nothing for KU basketball.

No announcer ever said, "You have to hand it to KU they played MU."

No commity person ever said, "We had to give KU the number one seed because they played MU."

No body of work break down, "ever showed hey they played MU."

This did help the KC Star sell newspapers. This did give KK of 810 am a plethora of new material to bash KU.

KU playing MU again is like the person that was in an abusive relationship. They get out and can't just help themselves wanting to get back in the relationship.

Where is Doctor Phil when you need him?

Whoa slow down big dogs. Pointing out that Synder cant' win the big one is like putting your finger in a light socket and saying yea we got juice. It makes no sense.

As much I as I hate to admit it. Every Saturday Wildcats get up, put on their war paint, start drinking the the pioson of choice, create fire in those things we call grills. Why? Because they know their football team has a chance to win.

Yea maybe Synder can't win the big one. Yet It sure beats being a KU fan on Saturday trying to figure out when your going to turn off the TV and go do something around the house.

The thing is I believe KU is still paying for Gill, and Weis even though both have been excorted off the property. If KU gets rid of Beaty that would mean KU would be paying for 4 HC's? I don't know somebody would have to research that one. However I believe it's time to part ways with Zenger.

@justanotherfan

It so refreshing to actually to hear ideas of solving the issues instead of the MSM painting an agenda.

To many times we call attention to an issue that plagues Americans, yet do nothing.

You have some strong and thought out ideas for a plan of action to right the wrong. It shows me you have giving it a lot of thought. I appreciate that.

I think that reforming the distribution of tax money in our schools system would also help. Having been on both sides of the track. It's not a fair deal. Top notch schools have everything for kids to achieve greatness. Low income schools barely have enough school books to go around. I've learned in my life as I'm sure you have. That if a person believes the system is rigged, then they won't even try. Yet if a person believes they can achieve anything. Then perception, prejudices, and so called lot in life will have no effect on that person. They will aspire to greatness, as they armed with a strong and true education. What a person thinks they are, then therefore they will be.

@bskeet

No I don't know you, but what am I supposed to think? You pass over somebody that used the term racist like it had no value? Yet you're are offended that I used the word Attack. It makes a guy think?

You're a person of power as you apart of making @KUbuckets. I'm just a poster. Somebody that most don't agree with. LOL

A wise man once told me that we know each other but we don't really know each other.

However please understand where I'm coming from?

Yet? No I don't know you, but you will always have a place at my dinner table if you want or need it. If your nice and tell me I'm great I'll let you into my beer cooler.

Peace.

@justanotherfan

You're a strong poster. You're thoughtful about what you post. So lets switch gears?

What would like to see done to fix the issue?

@bskeet

I don't believe you. Somebody else threw out the word racism like giving out candy at a parade. Yet you had no problem with that. You had no problem with somebody calling another person a racist because they were against kneeling at the presence of the Flag or Anthem. Nope not even a beep.

Yet somehow me using the word Attack to describe the actions being taking by this latest protest, you find offensive?

You know if you really thought about It? You would see I'm trying to help to help the cause. I'm pointing out a very real threat to this cause. Going into deep detail how the PR that this protest is getting isn't helping the cause.

I haven't said one thing against the actual message? No I haven't. Just pointing out that the method that is being used might not reap the rewards many so desire. By disrespecting the Flag/anthem you not creating unity. You're creating division. This is never a good thing. Two wrongs never make a right.

You don't even see it? We are looking past the obvious. If kneeling in protest of the Flag/Anthem is working? Then why aren't we having the conversation on how to fix the problem? No were fighting about ones rights versus disrespecting the flag. As a society we have gained nothing but more division. There is no unity here.

No sir you don't respect what I have to say, and you don't like me. You've made that very clear with your basely accusations. You turned a blind eye to the use of a word so horrific, and evil. A word like Racism. Yet you went out your way to scold me for using word that can be used in many ways in the English language. (Attack)

No sir you showed your cards. I know where you stand.

@bskeet

What divide do you want to bridge? And how are you going to win my interest to your cause when you go out of your way to call me out in your post? Not only calling me out but making your whole post about me. Not to mention the post had nothing to do with the topic, but was ATTACKING me for what you viewed as a miss use of the word. ATTACK. You were wrong. I used the word just as it should have been used. So now why should I trust you? Why would I want to build a bridge? You don't care what I have to say?

I don't know how many times I have to say it? I have no problem with the NFL Players protesting. I'm just pointing out the method with which is being used to protest is not winning them or the cause any support.

Yet all I keep hearing is it their right. It is their right. OK it's their right, and then keep doing what your doing and lets see how far this protest goes and accomplishes?

If anybody has tried to bridge the gap. It's been me. As I acknowledge the rights of persons to protest. Just speculating that disrespecting the Flag and Anthem may not be the best way to gain support for your message.

http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/attack ↗

LOL

@bskeet

Really? LOL, Omg.

No, you shouldn't read any of my posts. I'm not sure you can handle it.

Comparing the players of the NFL and their disrespect of the American Flag to what MLK did is like trying to compare an apple to a carrot.

Understand MLK was not disrespectful to others. Sure his movement and thoughts were unpopular at the time. Yet he was not disrespectful. In fact he made it a point not to be disrespectful to others. For he knew to realize his dream he needed others outside his base to make it happen. He needed to unite the people for his cause.

You're not going to unite people disrespecting the American Flag and Anthem. Thereby meaning your not going to get people to join your cause. Meaning your not going to be remembered in a lighter view. I find it humorous that some keep arguing with me that it's ok to disrespect the Flag and Anthem and their will be no backlash. Yet as each day goes by the NFL is losing more viewership. People are tuning out, not only the game but the cause of the protest all together. I too am a student of history. And if History has taught us anything? It would be that the method that one uses to bring the message is just important as the message it's self.

So again tell me how disrespecting the flag and anthem is going to work? I'm being told I'm wrong. Yet all the stats, polls, and dollars signs indicate I somewhat know what I'm talking about.

I mean what is the message anyways? I'm watching Football players interview and they swear it's all about Trump? Some say it's about police brutality? Same say it's about Black equality.

Somewhere in all this the true message is dying.

@BShark

Yea like Obama care is killing it. Oh wait maybe it is?

That's funny I thought it took the house and senate to pass these things you speak of. Can't blame Trump for trying? Because he is trying. Yet some are standing in the way. Not going to mention names. Yet somehow I think voters are going to remember who is standing in the way. Good luck with midterms and the next presidential elections. LOL

Just for the record I've burned no jersey's or tickets. With a little research a person will find that not all NFL players are showing disrespect for a symbol of freedom.

At one time in this great country. Racist used to mean:

"a person who shows or feels discrimination or prejudice against people of other races, or who believes that a particular race is superior to another"

Now if you disagree with someone your a Racist. I'm pretty sure those burning their memorable and tickets because of the lack of respect for the American flag and anthem are indeed not racist. After all there have been white football players kneeling too. Not to mention these same fans bought all that memorable and tickets before some felt it was ok to disrespect the flag and anthem. They weren't racist before, but now there're racist??? LOL

Reality. It's not really that your a racist. It's because that person has lost the argument and has now resorted to name calling, and bashing the very person that is blowing holes in their argument. Its what they do. Instead of taking a step back and thinking about the issue and arguments that are being made. They push forward by changing the rules of the game. Realizing they have a weak argument, yet can't admit maybe they could be wrong. They resort to name calling and using the racist card.

Some things never change.

Well I tried to have a sensible conversation. Well now some have turned to bashing Trump. Like Obama never played golf when his country needed him?

Oh and do some research on Puerto Rico. The supplies are there waiting to be dispersed. It appears the liberal government officials of Puerto Rico are playing some politics with people lives.

Anyways the NFL numbers are down. Directv is offering refund to their NFL packages. Fans are burning their memorable and tickets. But hey keep doing what your doing, because it seems to be working so well.

Thank God for the internet. Now the real voices and stories can get out.

Again what do you gain by attacking a symbol (flag) that so many deem pure and something that unites the people of all colors? Just like removing statues that represent a different time and place in history. Sure it makes those that feel offended feel a little better for a day, but it really changes nothing. In fact it does more harm than good. Oh sure there is the case of awareness that can be made. Yet isn't this case falling on deaf ears because of the attacks on the flag and the anathema? So what are you gaining?

It's almost comical, yet for the hypocrisy that is taking place. We want to defend those that believe in the desecration of the flag and anathema as freedom of speech, yet want to get all bent out of shape because a lot of people completely disagree with how the flag is being desecrated. Doesn't everybody have freedom of speech?

As far as I can tell we're not even talking about why this issue has brought the NFL players to their knees. Do we even know what the issue is anymore? What is the issue about anymore? Black pride?

So I ask? It maybe a worthy cause but all you're doing is pissing off a lot of people with these protests. If awareness is the goal. I'm pretty sure everybody knows. So what's the end game here? To actually get some real changes? or is it just sticking it this country and it's values? So many that have protested have said it's not about disrespecting the military, the flag, or the anathema. Then why do it? So you know how many women and men that have served this country and fought in wars they didn't agree with? Yet they did because they took an oath to defend and protect this great country. So why disrespect these people to push your agenda? Just for the record there are more white people killed at the hands of cops than blacks.

MLK was a brilliant person. For you see he understood to truly gain equal rights and respect. You have to get those not in your camp to believe in your cause. He did just that. He didn't disrespect people. He didn't label them as racist, He didn't spout about white privilege. He didn't label the president of his time as a Hitler. No he spoke of his dream, and in doing that he captured the hearts of whites, blacks, and minorities. Americans love dreams.

Even if you don't mean to disrespect the flag/anathema? That's what you're doing. If we are going to destroy symbols of freedom and that unite us. Just because we think we have the right too? Then his country is further down the road to self destruction than I thought. I guess at this point all we can do is lower our heads and pray.

@mayjay

I get it. Yet I work with a veteran personally, and I asked him how he feels. He said that's what I fought for, yet he did say it hurts his feelings.

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@mayjay

Just for the record I respect your posts and opinions.

@mayjay

If a person has a valid protest, which maybe they do. ((yet I think black on black crime is greater)). Why would you attack something that the majority of persons feel is scared. I mean you're not helping your cause. Take me for example. I'm willing to hear the cause, I'm willing to listen, I'm willing to understand. Yet if you're going to attack something that has nothing to do with your cause? I'm willing to not listen to what you have to say.

There is a time and a place to protest. I'm no superstar. I have a regular job as most of Americans. I'm not allowed to protest on my job. I'm not allowed to wear controversial items of clothing when I show up to work. Last time I checked NFL football is a job.

Why would you chose to protest something that represents those that have giving their lives so you can protest?

Answer that question? @mayjay

Ok lets try to bring the issue down a few notches? I know me the peacemaker? LOL

Lets paint a scenario here. Lets say you were invited to speak at a funeral of a family member or friend. And lets say this person has wronged you a few times, or did some stuff you were totally against? Would use the moment at this persons funeral while they lay died in that casket surrounded by their grieving spouse, children, family, and friends to air your grievances?

Everybody knows the Flag represents the falling soldiers of this country. Though the protest maybe valid, yet why air your grievances at a symbol that represents those men and women that have lost their lives defending your rights to protest? Reopening wounds of spouses and family members that have lost loved ones serving this country.

Doesn't make sense to me.

The victory is already won, as Jesus said it's done.

I have to say I feel a little dirty. As KU being in bed with Adidas after all this fallout. I just hope the rabbit hole isn't to deep?

@Crimsonorblue22

Is it really peaceful? I know you're a sniper. Take your pot shots and then run. Yet is it really a peaceful display? I get it what is so harming about a person or persons just taking a knee? It would seem like no big deal? However this action right or wrong has upset and offended so many. So many I'm not sure the NFL realizes the affects that are coming. Espn tried to play this game, and their numbers are waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay down.

My wife was once previously married to a Cuban man. She had a daughter from this marriage. And this daughter loved her Cuban family as she should. On a vacation trip we visited the grandparents of my new teenage daughter. Before visiting them we had ate a full supper. However on our visit, her grandmother was persistent on cooking dinner for us. I was already bloating to the gills from our out to eat dinner. I was not expecting to eat again on this night. On being offered another dinner I was like thanks but no thanks. As we just have eaten. However before I could get the words out of my mouth, my wife said it was disrespectful to refuse a cooked meal to the Cuban culture. So I ate not wanting to be disrespectful.

Is it really that peaceful to show so much disrespect to something that so many have so much for respect for?

@Crimsonorblue22

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Want to know what I think/feel? Well this person speaks for me.

@Crimsonorblue22

Still not a game? Soooo don't pat yourself to hard. LOL

I mean lets be honest Media days are filled with questions that have nothing to do with the Sport they play in. So if you watch media days one should expect info that has nothing to do with the game.

So damn you got me. I didn't say media days. My bad.

@justanotherfan

That's a strong argument you make. Yet that's not my beef. I'm a capitalist to the very core of who I am. I have no problems with persons using their God giving abilities to take a piece of the pie for themselves. Lets be fair? There are so many with less talent, size, and strength that get passed over just because the have less talent, size, and strength. They practice just hard and put in just as much time trying to be better/best at the sport they play. Yet just because of their talent level, size, and strength they have no chance. Yet that is just life. No argument.

However though I admire their abilities and envy them in some ways. I tune in to watch what they can do in the sport they play. I don't care how much money they make. Could care less how big their house is. What kind of car they drive means a hill of beans to me. I also don't care about their thoughts on the pressing issues of our day.

LeBron held a media conference to today to attack Trump. Good for him. In fact I respect him for it. No why? Because I wasn't forced to watch it. Yet I could if I wanted too. LeBron gave me the option. So I respect him for it. Yet when it's game day lets set aside views/issues and play the game. When these football players protest they are forcing their thoughts/views on me. They are making me aware of what they think is right without a debate/conversation. I just want to watch the game.

@Crimsonorblue22

Nah don't care for Nascar. Actually I can honestly say I've never watched one race. Yes I agree with you Trump was wrong for getting into this kneeling for the flag protests and such. He was wrong.

Yet thanks for projecting and making assumptions. Yet that's what you do best.