@BShark said in 2022 Crootin:
@FarmerJayhawk I like top 500 players, I really do.
Really stoked on this one. Think he’s definitely a high level Big 12 type talent.
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@Crimsonorblue22 said in Coach K to retire after 21-22 season:
@FarmerJayhawk was at the rowdy game against osu! Fun times
Same! I was in the last year of my master's and about 4 rows behind the basket when Cliff got T'd up for the flex lol
@Marco said in Coach K to retire after 21-22 season:
@FarmerJayhawk said in Coach K to retire after 21-22 season:
@drgnslayr said in Coach K to retire after 21-22 season:
Yep... and now I forgot the other guy's name... big man from Chicago. He zero'd out for us, too.
With NIL the Cliff situation would’ve been above board most likely, unless they do some weird restriction to only group licensing. And I’ll be honest that whole cycle was unbelievably dirty at the top holy crap. The Jones/Okafor/Cliff love triangle was WILD.
You know, honest question here. I really thought that Alexander was going to be a star, and so did everyone else. And it's not like be played against non-competition in Chicago. What, just a bad dude or what? And what happened to him?
He played in kind of a whacky system in HS. I don't think they ever really played man defense. It was a strict 2-3 zone and he barely left the paint. It took him a loooong time to adapt to Big 12 competition and Self's system. Clearly the talent was there. He started the last 5 games he played. Advanced stats were good. I agree with Tex, he would've been very good the following year.
@drgnslayr said in Coach K to retire after 21-22 season:
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Coach K to retire after 21-22 season:
The NCAA investigation is what’s impacting KU more than anything else right now will continue to until a verdict is handed down.
Is that because top shelf talent is shying away from Kansas or is it because Self and crew finally realize it just isn't worth it recruiting most of those "basket cases?"
Looking at the visit schedule this month. They are getting VERY aggressive with top talent now. KU always has great visits so given that nobody has been able to do them in 15 months, strike fast and hard.
@drgnslayr said in Coach K to retire after 21-22 season:
Yep... and now I forgot the other guy's name... big man from Chicago. He zero'd out for us, too.
With NIL the Cliff situation would’ve been above board most likely, unless they do some weird restriction to only group licensing. And I’ll be honest that whole cycle was unbelievably dirty at the top holy crap. The Jones/Okafor/Cliff love triangle was WILD.
Was super bummed about that. He told everyone (coaches, teammates) he was definitely coming back. Tamper city.
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in 2021-2022 Kansas Basketball Schedule:
@FarmerJayhawk Do you know if KU is planning on full capacity for basketball games this upcoming season or will it still be reduced capacity?
If it's full capacity, I'm making every effort to fly up for the Missouri game for my birthday weekend.
That’s definitely the plan. Whether Douglas Co lets them is TBD.
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Call your Shot on Agbaji & Wilson returning:
Curry doesn't reopen his recruitment unless the staff was getting messages that Agbaji was leaning towards returning.
I'm also very curious what an Agbaji and Wilson return does to the line up because that affects several players. Yesufu seemed like he was a better fit as a 6th man, but we also know Self likes two capable ball handlers and JCL is not that because he's essentially an undersized 3 so would Self start him at the 2 over Yesufu?
I’ve always been under the impression Remy and Yesufu were going to start, JCL would play an Isaiah Moss type role. My dream was Marcus coming back to play the 2, but obviously his heart was set on the pro route. Remy and Marcus would’ve been a DIRTY backcourt.
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in New Walk-on:
Is KU charging Charlie or his parents to live in McCarthy since the family already paid for the building?
Some serious 5D chess here. Not only do they get their kid a walk-on spot, he gets to live in some of the nicest dorms in the country, all because you wrote a big check. This is probably why he's rich. BIG BRAIN MOVE
Och - 3:1 odds he leaves
Wilson: 9:1 leaves
Roster posted! https://kuathletics.com/sports/mbball/roster/ ↗
Couple notes: Harris added 10 pounds. Which is good. Pettiford taking the legendary #0. Curry still listed lol. Big Dave isn’t so big, down to 250. Clemence needs to be with Doc Ramsey like 24/7. 221 aint gonna do it in this league night in and night out.
December 29th. Hahvahd
Mark Mitchell committed!
(to Sunrise)
Both LB’s from Olé Miss and Meeeeechigan are strong possibilities. The MLB from Miss led them in tackles last year. Immediate starter at MLB.
Update: we ain’t done
we luv u malik
@nwhawkfan totally agree. It's insane to me neither Duke or UNC reached outside "the family" in any meaningful way.
K doing a full farewell tour is the most Coach K thing ever.
Man, the UNC dook rivalry just won't be the same in 2022-3. Scheyer v. Hubert just doesn't have the same juice.
@Texas-Hawk-10 I believe mostly buy games, but haven't heard anything finalized.
@jayballer67 said in 2022 Crootin:
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2022 Crootin:
@jayballer67 said in 2022 Crootin:
How is all these guys going to effect our 2022 recruiting farmer ? - these guys gonna be blue shirts ?
Good question. My impression is they’re coming off the 2022 class. Which makes sense IMO. The limit in 22 was never going to be the 25 initial counters, but the 85 man cap since covid goosed all the numbers.
Have you heard anything on Woods ? -thought it sounded like he was coming ?
Not super recently. We might be out of DL spots now to be honest. A lot of 3-4 ends are moving inside
@jayballer67 said in 2022 Crootin:
How is all these guys going to effect our 2022 recruiting farmer ? - these guys gonna be blue shirts ?
Good question. My impression is they’re coming off the 2022 class. Which makes sense IMO. The limit in 22 was never going to be the 25 initial counters, but the 85 man cap since covid goosed all the numbers.
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@jayballer67 yessir. Free agency is here to stay
3 more this morning! An OT (not the one on my radar, but actually a better one), LB, and DT.
@jayballer67 said in 2022 Crootin:
@FarmerJayhawk Wondering how many may end up landing here ?
My money is on 6. Novitsky just committed 😎
@jayballer67 players are reporting tonight and tomorrow so we’ll know pretty quick I’d imagine!
@jayballer67 said in 2022 Crootin:
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2022 Crootin:
@jayballer67 said in 2022 Crootin:
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2022 Crootin:
Adding a couple more. Novitsky (C) and Tyrece Woods (DT).
how for sure are we on these players ending up here? - -
Eddie Wilson just committed so there’s one official. I think all are better than even money at this point.
Wilson was that big 330 Tackle you mentioned right ? - -we can sure use them D-Line - -O - line we need lineman BOTH sides
Yessir. Trevor Wilson (WR) committed as well. Hearing more guys will announce tomorrow. Novitsky the center and Woods the DT are likely
@jayballer67 said in 2022 Crootin:
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2022 Crootin:
Adding a couple more. Novitsky (C) and Tyrece Woods (DT).
how for sure are we on these players ending up here? - -
Eddie Wilson just committed so there’s one official. I think all are better than even money at this point.
@jayballer67 said in Welcome Sydney Curry!:
@FarmerJayhawk said in Welcome Sydney Curry!:
@Texas-Hawk-10 I don’t. It would be out of Bill’s norm to redshirt a freshman if he didn’t have to. If it were me I probably would just because there’s no clear role for him this year and he could be a nice player in a couple years.
@jayballer67 not at all. JCL has better ball skills than Ochai but not good enough to play the 2 when Self likes two combos out there.
So in what terms are you talking then ? - - -JCL better Fg % then Och ( 43.5 to 42 % ) - - a lot better ft % then Och ( 86.1 % to 68.9 % ) - - Better 3 pt shooter then Och ( 39.5 % to 37.7 % ) so really where would he not be as good ? - - neither one really plays defense that well. - -Och didn't turn the ball over as much is really the only area where he is better then JCL. - -assists ration is a wash - - Steals are a wash -I think they pretty much balance one another out
Ah! We’re just talking past each other. By ball skills I mean handling and passing, stuff that point guards usually do. I don’t like JCL or Ochai playing on the ball at all. So I think they’re the same position, and I think we agree on that!
@Texas-Hawk-10 I don’t. It would be out of Bill’s norm to redshirt a freshman if he didn’t have to. If it were me I probably would just because there’s no clear role for him this year and he could be a nice player in a couple years.
@jayballer67 not at all. JCL has better ball skills than Ochai but not good enough to play the 2 when Self likes two combos out there.
@approxinfinity said in Welcome Sydney Curry!:
@FarmerJayhawk ok. I know people feel that way it's just hard to imagine our starting 1 and 2 both being 6 feet tall. You think Martin and Yesufu start?
At this point yes. Yesufu definitely isn’t a PG. Bill isn’t afraid to play small at guard. Frank was like 5’10 and Devonte measured 6’1.5 at the combine. Not sure how much difference a couple inches makes (that’s what she said)
I don’t think JCL will start, assuming Och is back. An Isaiah Moss role is more his speed at this point in his career. He just doesn’t have good enough ball skills to play the 2. I really doubt we redshirt more than Cuffe. Self just doesn’t redshirt multiple guys unless a team is absolutely loaded at one spot, like the 10-11 squad. The exception would be if we found out Bobby is hurt worse than we think, in which case might not be a bad idea.
@BShark said in 2021 Transfer Talk/List:
Jordan Brown ended up at Louisiana.
GEAUX CAJUNS. Love that school
Adding a couple more. Novitsky (C) and Tyrece Woods (DT).
@jayballer67 said in 2022 Crootin:
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2022 Crootin:
Circling back here, I’m pretty sure Trevor Wilson (WR) and Eddie Wilson (DT) are two players coming over.
Cool. Sure seems like we are going to have a Bunch of wide receives. - - You know anything on Wilson ? - -Quality receive /stats ? - -for sure can always use DL no doubt. - -were these guys starters ? - -what class ? - - -Thanks Farmer
Trevor, the WR has 4 years to play. Definitely a burner on the outside, averaged 20 yards per catch last year.
Eddie is a 330 pound DT with 2 to play. 3rd team all MAC last year.
Circling back here, I’m pretty sure Trevor Wilson (WR) and Eddie Wilson (DT) are two players coming over.
@jayballer67 that all sounds right to me. I think they RS at least one, maybe both of Easters and Hawley. You don’t really need 4 QB’s active. Shoot, maybe even RS Daniels and use Kendrick for garbage time if Daniels hits 4 games. Avery Johnson is going to the QB to watch, class of 23. Local kid out of Maize will be a 4* by the time he’s done.
@jayballer67 Meyers decommitted when Dearmon left. I kind of doubt they take a QB in the 22 class. Already have 3 true frosh plus Bean, who has 3 years to play. Plus being short on scholarships makes the numbers kind of tough.
Look for a handful of Buffalo transfers to land when guys report back.
Kevin Samuel from TCU in the portal. If a spot comes open, would take.
@jayballer67 said in 2021 Recruiting:
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2021 Recruiting:
@jayballer67 said in 2021 Recruiting:
@BShark said in 2021 Recruiting:
Jalen and Ochai are coming back. :crystal_ball:
then were STILL gonna be one over. Something has to give
Nope. We good. 14 guys but Mitch doesn’t count.
does that 14 include Wilson - - Oachi - - & Martin ? - -I seriously don't know Thanks Farmer
Yessir. If everyone comes back we’re at 14
@jayballer67 said in 2021 Recruiting:
@BShark said in 2021 Recruiting:
Jalen and Ochai are coming back. :crystal_ball:
then were STILL gonna be one over. Something has to give
Nope. We good. 14 guys but Mitch doesn’t count.
I'll be honest, some of this feels like change for change's sake. We'll definitely be able to score better, but defensively.. woof.
This quote from Bill was a spittake, “Not since Brady Morningstar have I coached a young man that is 24-years-old and will graduate at 25, but I think that maturity and experience will bode well with so many newcomers next season.”
@BShark said in Welcome Sydney Curry!:
@FarmerJayhawk said in Welcome Sydney Curry!:
Goodbye Sydney Curry! Reopening his recruitment.
"re-opening"
Was being polite lol
Goodbye Sydney Curry! Reopening his recruitment.
@justanotherfan said in Coach Leipold:
@FarmerJayhawk said in Coach Leipold:
They've also done a Zoom with Kansas HS coaches. Doing another one tonight with KC area HS coaches.
Getting a strong base in the KC area (and in the Wichita area) will be the key to getting back on track. Those are the two areas that obviously will produce the bulk of D1 talent in the state, so you have to hit those hard.
Definitely. Those areas look especially strong in 22/23.
They've also done a Zoom with Kansas HS coaches. Doing another one tonight with KC area HS coaches.
Hearing some good stuff behind the scenes. Players and their families had a Zoom last night with all the coaches then breakouts with their position coach. Really getting guys to buy in. Also moving practice to morning which will be a big change.