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@ralster no JJ was always a starter - he just moved to the four because he is more fit for that role.

I think Braggs problem is he is playing out of position. He is a guard in a big man's body. He lacks that extra meaness and toughness that it takes to compete in the post. Really, he does not understand how to be tough and fight for position and rebounds.

I was in a similar position to him in my playing days - you could call it soft. It took me a while before I understood how to play tough and how to get in that frame of mind. I knew what to do to get in that frame of mind.

This is all new to Carlton. He didn't need to play D1 level tough in high school and there is a bit of a learning curve for him. Even if he was playing the four, he would still have problems.

I think you are incorrect by saying he can't dribble or shoot. He made numerous threes and outside jumpers last year and I thought he could take over for Ellis. During late night when he hit a couple threes and some jumpers, Self said that that is what he wants to do. Again, he isnt in the mindset of a post player and it will take him a while to get used to it. With no Dok, he can't be the stretch four. He has no chance to get comfortable driving in a game situation.

I don't know when he will figure this out. Bill obviously thinks that is the way to go instead of a combo of Coleby at the five and Bragg at the four. Maybe one of these days it will start to click and he will do less thinking and more playing.

@drgnslayr man I don't know. I am still waiting for that game where they start to show their talent and experience longer than just five or six minutes a game.

@KUSTEVE don't think we are playing very well right now. Monday would be a great time to start playing better...

Several thoughts • Jan 15, 2017 02:39 AM

@KUSTEVE Need to play well on Monday. I have been saying since the pre season that there are three key games we need to win - @ISU, @WVU and @OSU. Every time we go to those places it seems as though we make them look like top ten teams. No reason we can't win with a little poise, senior leadership and a few three pointers.

Hawks vs Pokes Game Thread • Jan 15, 2017 01:01 AM

@kjayhawks both were in a position to win but turnovers and bad shots sealed the deal.

Several thoughts • Jan 14, 2017 11:51 PM

@Crimsonorblue22 I'm don't mind being wrong. That is my prediction

Several thoughts • Jan 14, 2017 11:42 PM

@ralster I disagree. Morris and Burton are going to have fun playing against our defense. They are probably smiling and licking their chops after seeing how even Forte was able to get in the lane at will.

Hawks vs Pokes Game Thread • Jan 14, 2017 11:36 PM

@approxinfinity more than a trap game - probably a loss.

Several thoughts • Jan 14, 2017 11:35 PM

@jayballer54 agreed about this team not being #1. That honor goes to either Nova and UCLA. UCLA is the real deal and will be my pick to bring home the title this year.

Several thoughts • Jan 14, 2017 11:27 PM

@DCHawker I agree. Unless there is a sense of urgency or a little more pride, no 13 will not happen this year. Maybe that would be good for them to have that happen. They would probably get a 2 or 3 seed with no guarantee of being in the midwest regional, as well as the possibility of being in the same bracket as Kentucky or UCLA. Yikes.

Or they could play to the level they are capable of and stop screwing around.

Hawks vs Pokes Game Thread • Jan 14, 2017 11:17 PM

Texas choking away an upset also.

Hawks vs Pokes Game Thread • Jan 14, 2017 11:12 PM

K state choking away an upset

Hawks vs Pokes Game Thread • Jan 14, 2017 10:19 PM

@Bwag exactly. In life, you have to focus on what to improve a little more than the positived. If all you do is hold your pom poms and do a dance for yourself, you are not likely to realize weaknesses. Have to be critical.

Hawks vs Pokes Game Thread • Jan 14, 2017 09:45 PM

@autohawk good suggestion

Hawks vs Pokes Game Thread • Jan 14, 2017 09:38 PM

@DCHawker no reason for that. Unacceptable

Hawks vs Pokes Game Thread • Jan 14, 2017 09:32 PM

@DoubleDD no I love a good offense. But I do not like seeing our guys continually let the other team get in the lane. If you don't have a rim protector, that means your guards have to keep the opposing guards out of the lane or you will be in trouble.

Hawks vs Pokes Game Thread • Jan 14, 2017 09:21 PM

@DoubleDD you know, I will take the W, but they played so poorly that it feels like a loss.

Hawks vs Pokes Game Thread • Jan 14, 2017 09:19 PM

@bskeet have no idea what you are talking about. Our guys have no defensive pride which has been evident since the first game. The only thing we learned is that our problems are still there

Hawks vs Pokes Game Thread • Jan 14, 2017 09:15 PM

@Crimsonorblue22 uh, thats nine days away. It's almost here and our guys look about as undisciplined as I have seen a Bill Self team. Not looking good

Hawks vs Pokes Game Thread • Jan 14, 2017 09:13 PM

@Bwag its hard to imagine the game at West Virginia not being a 20 point loss.

Hawks vs Pokes Game Thread • Jan 14, 2017 09:11 PM

The game on monday could get real ugly real quick

Hawks vs Pokes Game Thread • Jan 14, 2017 09:09 PM

@BShark they still have the "let's outscore them" attitude. Another offensive rebound by solomon

Hawks vs Pokes Game Thread • Jan 14, 2017 09:05 PM

Bad pick and roll d

Hawks vs Pokes Game Thread • Jan 14, 2017 09:03 PM

@BShark Lucas went for the block which left the offensive glass wide open. Can't do that

Hawks vs Pokes Game Thread • Jan 14, 2017 09:02 PM

@JayHawkFanToo they can't keep Evans and forte in front of them, which makes a run doubtful

Hawks vs Pokes Game Thread • Jan 14, 2017 09:01 PM

Making Solomon look like a first team all big 12 player.

Hawks vs Pokes Game Thread • Jan 14, 2017 08:55 PM

@kjayhawks not as bad as missed threes and bad defense.

Hawks vs Pokes Game Thread • Jan 14, 2017 08:52 PM

I'm telling you guys, they are saving their good shooting for Monday. This team is a lot better than 30%

Hawks vs Pokes Game Thread • Jan 14, 2017 08:46 PM

This team can't put together a sustained effort even if they had to.

Hawks vs Pokes Game Thread • Jan 14, 2017 08:45 PM

More bad play

Hawks vs Pokes Game Thread • Jan 14, 2017 08:38 PM

Good d by frank

Hawks vs Pokes Game Thread • Jan 14, 2017 08:37 PM

@Bwag thats the kind of stuff Im talking about. Why wouldn't you pressure him?

Hawks vs Pokes Game Thread • Jan 14, 2017 08:36 PM

That was a great move by devonte

Hawks vs Pokes Game Thread • Jan 14, 2017 08:33 PM

@DCHawker yeah he's fine

Hawks vs Pokes Game Thread • Jan 14, 2017 08:32 PM

Great move by devonte

Hawks vs Pokes Game Thread • Jan 14, 2017 08:31 PM

Great tap out by Vick

Hawks vs Pokes Game Thread • Jan 14, 2017 08:30 PM

@DCHawker yes dont

Hawks vs Pokes Game Thread • Jan 14, 2017 08:25 PM

Much better

Hawks vs Pokes Game Thread • Jan 14, 2017 08:24 PM

Good play and bad play from Svi

Hawks vs Pokes Game Thread • Jan 14, 2017 08:23 PM

@DCHawker saving all the three pointers for Monday

Hawks vs Pokes Game Thread • Jan 14, 2017 08:22 PM

@BeddieKU23 that has to change along with our D or this is a loss

Hawks vs Pokes Game Thread • Jan 14, 2017 08:20 PM

And this is why you can't rely on offense. One bad shooting game and you are out of the tournament. UCLA can probably get away with that this year, though.

Hawks vs Pokes Game Thread • Jan 14, 2017 08:19 PM

@Texas-Hawk-10 why is the question.

Hawks vs Pokes Game Thread • Jan 14, 2017 08:18 PM

@BShark really for the last three years

Hawks vs Pokes Game Thread • Jan 14, 2017 08:17 PM

@DCHawker correct

Hawks vs Pokes Game Thread • Jan 14, 2017 08:16 PM

@BShark man Forte is the kind of guy that would have been very beneficial especially with his shooting

Hawks vs Pokes Game Thread • Jan 14, 2017 08:15 PM

@DoubleDD yes but they aren't our first line of defense.

Hawks vs Pokes Game Thread • Jan 14, 2017 08:15 PM

@BShark as usual. Why didn't we get him?

Hawks vs Pokes Game Thread • Jan 14, 2017 08:14 PM

@DoubleDD but you shouldn't need that. Nova didn't last year.

Hawks vs Pokes Game Thread • Jan 14, 2017 08:14 PM

@DoubleDD What is frustrating is that there are certain instances this year where they have played great defense and had good focus, but most of the time they look like they don't want to.