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HighEliteMajor
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RIP Jalen Wilson • Jan 03, 2020 03:25 PM

I'm puzzled why we are quick so quick to dismiss Wilson. Is it likely he'll be ready to play and make a big contributions this season? No.

But heading into the season I think most everyone thought he was more game ready than Enaruna, with Enaruna having more upside.

I understood that Wilson has decent three point shooting ability. To me, that's 33-35%. Wiggins was in that range as I recall. But that doesn't make the big impact it would take to shoot Wilson up the PT pecking order. 40% would. Don't know about that from any freshman.

If he comes back say Feb. 1., we have a very busy February and early March of games. This could have him in decent position to help come tourney time. It is reasonable to the think that he could surpass Enaruna, but I don't think anyone will expect that. I'd expect Enaruna to make the leap before I'd expect Wilson to. But Enaruna's shooting was always considered an issue (switching dominant shooting hands, etc.)

There's no answer here. But to foreclose it as a reasonable possibility doesn't make much sense. Wilson has a lot to overcome -- freshman, no real PT, guys that have that experience now, coming off a big injury, etc. It's an uphill battle to be sure.

On redshirting (a practical consideration) the only way you redshirt a kid is IF he is a four year player. Here, he could play this season and still have three left. Odds are he'll be gone then anyway to the pros. But if the pow-wow between player and coach says that he will like be a full term guy, then I guess we should redshirt. Another reason NOT to redshirt (from the KU perspective) is that he could graduate and leave the program when he reaches year five. So we'd only get him three full seasons anyway.

Personally, I would play him every minute Self thinks he deserves. All we lose is a possible 4th year. And in four years, heck, we might be bowing to an Ayatollah. Or CBB might have free agency. Play him what Self thinks is deserving.

https://247sports.com/college/kansas/Article/Recruiting-Former-Michigan-Jalen-Wilson-KU-basketball-scouting-report-132155545/ ↗

Inner City "Culture" • Jan 03, 2020 02:51 AM

https://www.kansascity.com/news/local/crime/article238524473.html ↗

Inner City "Culture" • Jan 03, 2020 12:44 AM

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nola.com/news/crime_police/article_d61c60a8-2c1e-11ea-a050-b3eef2647883.amp.html ↗

Inner City "Culture" • Jan 03, 2020 12:43 AM

https://www.kcpd.org/media/news-releases/five-houses-struck-by-celebratory-gunfire-on-new-years-eve/ ↗

Inner City "Culture" • Jan 02, 2020 07:23 PM

https://www.ksdk.com/article/news/crime/st-louis-new-years-day-shooting/63-46301939-e69b-455d-9147-a7c48af0886f ↗

Five shot and killed New Year's day in St. Louis. More wounded.

Inner City "Culture" • Jan 01, 2020 10:25 PM

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/3-dead-at-least-21-wounded-in-shootings-across-chicago/2194125/%3fakmobile=y&akdevice=androidphone&sslEnabled=true&amp ↗

Here we go again - Self rumor mill • Jan 01, 2020 09:11 PM

No one here KNOWS coach Self. No one knows what’s in his mind. No one knows how sanctions will impact the dynamic within BB, the athletic department, and the school administration (including the board of regents).

Anyone who dismisses that this risk is more than marginal is simply full of it.

This is a reason coaches leave college.

This is a reason coaches get forced out.

Even without the NCAA stuff the risk is certainly there, perhaps minor that he leaves on his own. But with this? It’s real. And it’s even more heightened because he could get shown the door or he could reach the point of be tired of dealing with.

Everyone has their breaking point particularly when there are other options.

Top 5 coaches of the decade • Dec 31, 2019 08:09 PM

The main reason I think we dislike the color guys is because they offer opinions. Many times their opinions don’t match our view of CBB. And certainly not when it comes to perceived slights against KU. That’s the main reason I think most dislike some of these announcers.

I do think Fran expresses things, like KU getting calls at AFH, that we don’t like hearing.

I differentiate that from bad or annoying color guys. In my book, most annoying/bad are Vitale, Walton, Dakich. They are distractions to me. I’m just kind of tired of listening to Fran. He’s informative but I’ve had enough.

I personally really like Bilas except for his anti NCAA, anti CBB, pro NBA/International BB monologues. That opinion thing. But for a Duke guy he isn’t slobbering all over them all the time.

Really liked the Fox crew for the Nova game. Always like Gus Johnson as the play by play.

Inner City "Culture" • Dec 31, 2019 07:29 PM

https://www.kshb.com/news/local-news/what-goes-up-must-come-down-kcpd-urges-against-celebratory-gunfire ↗

Not a suburban custom.

Top 5 coaches of the decade • Dec 31, 2019 07:26 AM

kjayhawks said:

As I said I enjoy Dick more these days,

Well as long as you’re happy!

Inner City "Culture" • Dec 31, 2019 04:04 AM

https://www.kshb.com/news/local-news/police-investigate-shooting-at-kc-popeyes-chicken-location ↗

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.kshb.com/news/local-news/one-hurt-in-kansas-city-early-morning-shooting%3f_amp=true ↗

Crimsonorblue22 said:

I thought I heard, ? Hugs wasn't feeling well either, that game. Just saw bits and pieces.

He never looks like he is feeling well ... always looks like he ate some bad tuna.

4 Guards • Dec 30, 2019 07:50 PM

jayballer73 said:

HighEliteMajor said:

Right, right, right, and right ...

Doke and Dave together? Nope. Evidence so far is pretty strong.

Self is maybe in a box a bit with Dave and Silvio minutes-wise.

It just doesn't work. - - I wish it did , I really like Dave - - -I really like Doke , but at the same time , it's just not working. - - -This team is just so much more fluid with the 4 guard around 1. - -Hell almost like a free lance - - drive and dish - -let it fly. - - The only problem is we have to be more consistent in our 3. Marcus does enough driving I'm fine with him. -- Braun is growing right before our eyes - -ki is going to be a winner for sure in a year or to.

You can see Braun getting more minutes - -Coach is seeing him getting better - - I just think we have to just scrap the 2 big - at least with who we have at the moment. - -If you want to run 2 big's they need to be more mobile that can step out and hit that 10-15 foot jumper with some consistency. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@Jayballer54 I wish it did too. All off season, I was expecting Silvio to start with Doke. That seemed to make sense. Doke and Dave just doesn't, whether watching or thinking about it.

Braun is progressing, but we should all expect bumps.

@FarmerJayhawk Ah, this is where Self being patient with Enaruna, getting him that valuable PT, has a good chance of paying off in March. I want to win the national title. Enaruna seems like a guy that could develop into an impact type guy. I would not pull that plug. I like the 10-12 minutes with more if he's playing well. We need to transition and go all in 4/1.

Are you thinking fewer minutes than that?

4 Guards • Dec 30, 2019 04:56 PM

Right, right, right, and right ...

Doke and Dave together? Nope. Evidence so far is pretty strong.

Self is maybe in a box a bit with Dave and Silvio minutes-wise.

Inner City "Culture" • Dec 30, 2019 02:46 AM

Major news ... meanwhile see our inner cities.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/29/us/church-shooting-texas/index.html ↗

Thoughts on KU 2020 • Dec 29, 2019 03:44 PM

Let's get real on Moss. Just what we've seen this season. He does NOTHING other than shoot the three. I posted that earlier. No assists, no steals, no rebounding. That's what we've seen.

But that's NOT what he was last season at Iowa, though. So I think we should be patient for a while.

Regarding three point shooting, it's interesting. Against our best four opponents that he played, BYU, Dayton, Colorado, and Nova, he's 3 of 12 from three (five attempts vs. BYU, just seven total vs. the other three). He didn't play vs. Duke. He was 5 of 6 vs. Monmouth and 3 of 4 vs. Chaminade. Just remove the Chaminade game, and his 3 pt % is appx. 31%. I know that's not fair though. Everyone on good teams gets to fatten up sometimes vs. weaker teams. But just an observation. Some lower tier teams guard the line well, some upper tier teams don't (like us).

As mentioned in a post above though, it's also kind of interesting that all of his made three pointers were assisted. Meaning he didn't create his own shot off the dribble. That's not a real big deal though. Vick was one of the best at creating his own shot and he was around 70%. Most good shooters (wings) around 80-85% being assisted. PGs get more opportunity to create their own. Just noting he has created no made threes this season.

And speaking of dribble, how many times has he put it on the deck and got to the rim? None?

If all he is, is what he's been, it's not worth putting him on the floor. His total package so far isn't much. So far ...

Spacing -- all that means is that the other team will guard him at the line. It's the opposite discussion as with Garrett or Traylor (back in the day related to him at the "high" in the high/low, when teams would give him the 15 footer, falling back and cutting off the entry pass to the "low"). Spacing is the norm. Every guard should demand respect at the three point line. I don't see teams slacking off of Braun or Enaruna at present.

Moss is not good enough to demand a "strategy" with our other players anyway. No team will ever prioritize Moss over guarding Dotson, Agbaji, or Doke. I mean, unless he starts gunning and shooting high volume at 40%. The volume of threes then becomes the issue and this team will never do that. So Moss will never be that. Hope that makes sense. Unless we shoot a high volume of threes, Moss will never demand a strategy by the defense in part because we aren't building a strategy around him. He's just not that type of player, it appears.

Case in point -- the guy played 36 minutes vs. Dayton. He had one three point attempt. If I'm the opposing coach I don't blink an eye. He took two three point shots vs. Nova, missed both, in 15 minutes. That deserves a yawn. If a guy is a noted three point shooter and doesn't shoot, what is he?

Based what I've seen, just what I've seen, I'd play Braun or Enaruna bigger minutes. Moss the least.

The thing holding me back is that Moss was much better at Iowa last season. Assists, Rebounds, Steals, two point FG %, etc. I'd say it's worth seeing how he plays out over the next month. Something is different. I'd like to see if he can break out. Remember Newman? Took him a bit. Moss isn't obviously a stud like Newman, but Newman took a while to acclimate. I'd give Moss another month at least to see how he's trending.

But if he's the same player in early February, I'd relegate him to single digit minutes as the last guard off the bench (assuming either Braun or Enaruna trend upward, which I think they will). I like activity and right now, though, Moss ain't that.

Inner City "Culture" • Dec 29, 2019 02:19 PM

From 2003 - Quite the insight. Now it’s just how the inner city black culture molds its youth. We accept it. Racist if we challenge this garbage. It’s part of the culture that leads to disgusting acts of violence. Period.

“The attitude and style expressed in the hip-hop “identity” keeps blacks down. Almost all hip-hop, gangsta or not, is delivered with a cocky, confrontational cadence that is fast becoming—as attested to by the rowdies at KFC—a common speech style among young black males. Similarly, the arm-slinging, hand-hurling gestures of rap performers have made their way into many young blacks’ casual gesticulations, becoming integral to their self-expression.”

https://www.city-journal.org/html/how-hip-hop-holds-blacks-back-12442.html ↗

Inner City "Culture" • Dec 29, 2019 02:08 PM

So I looked up art festival .. found a shooting in NJ. 22 people shot. Gang dispute. June of 2018.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2018/06/17/nyregion/trenton-mass-shooting.amp.html ↗

https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/17/us/new-jersey-art-festival-shooting/index.html ↗

Inner City "Culture" • Dec 29, 2019 02:05 PM

Look at the list above. Is this a “mass shooting”? This is horrific. Yet a gunman shooting 7, killing 3 at an art festival would get the national attention.

2020 Transfer List • Dec 29, 2019 01:53 PM

So I wonder, does UA get their money back?

Inner City "Culture" • Dec 29, 2019 01:51 PM

Lovely St. Louis - a sampling highlighted today. Now I suppose there could be rogue suburban invaders that perpetrated these crimes. I’m kind of guessing not -

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/moline-acres-man-dies-after-police-respond-to-call-of/article_6a530edc-690c-5635-8452-a6b51154533e.amp.html ↗

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.kmov.com/news/man-carjacked-at-gunpoint-while-getting-gas-in-north-city/article_003ca1fe-29a4-11ea-8d62-ef23f2fa61de.amp.html ↗

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.kmov.com/news/year-old-shot-while-running-away-from-armed-teen-in/article_ba538a06-29a6-11ea-ad90-4335248a6f09.amp.html ↗

https://www.google.com/amp/s/fox2now.com/2019/12/27/second-shooting-in-2-weeks-on-i-270-stretch-in-hazelwood/amp/ ↗

https://www.google.com/amp/s/fox2now.com/2019/12/26/multiple-christmas-shootings-in-st-louis-leave-7-people-wounded/amp/ ↗

https://www.google.com/amp/s/fox2now.com/2019/12/25/christmas-day-double-shooting-in-fox-park-neighborhood/amp/ ↗

https://www.google.com/amp/s/fox2now.com/2019/12/25/two-18-year-olds-shot-in-ofallon-neighborhood/amp/ ↗

https://www.google.com/amp/s/fox2now.com/2019/12/22/man-critically-injured-in-jennings-shooting/amp/ ↗

https://www.google.com/amp/s/fox2now.com/2019/12/20/1-person-killed-in-ferguson-double-shooting-major-case-squad-activated/amp/ ↗

https://www.google.com/amp/s/fox2now.com/2017/12/22/3-women-shot-and-killed-in-st-louis-city-home-invasion/amp/ ↗

Inner City "Culture" • Dec 29, 2019 04:00 AM

This one made me particularly mad ... amoral thug.

https://www.kshb.com/news/local-news/woman-shot-and-killed-friday-night-in-downtown-kansas-city-amid-first-friday-events?_amp=true ↗

Inner City "Culture" • Dec 28, 2019 01:46 PM

Good folks that want this to stop. Will anyone focus on the culture that melds this disrespect for life?

“Too many young people are losing and have lost their lives,” said Rayon Dansberry, a spokesperson for Hearts Of A Safe House, the organization that sponsored Friday’s march. “We are tired of seeing young black men and women lying dead in the streets of East St. Louis, Washington Park, Cahokia and surrounding communities.”

This quote can apply to every major inner city.

“We have to talk to the young people and we have to listen to what they have to say,” he said. “We have to show them love and teach them the importance of loving each other even though they are not birth brothers and sisters.”

Uh, culture change. Value life.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/rahm-emanuel-under-increasing-fire-for-linking-chicago-violence-and-morals-in-minority-neighborhoods ↗

https://www.google.com/amp/s/chicago.suntimes.com/platform/amp/2018/8/10/18315582/rahm-emanuel-gave-right-message-on-violence-even-if-he-was-the-wrong-messenger ↗

Odd, but the white kids in poor areas aren’t shooting each other at alarming rates. No roving white gangs.

Does anyone really care about these black deaths? Dems only use it to attack gun ownership. Republicans ignore it. Aren’t these lives equal to those in white suburbia?

It’s sickening.

Inner City "Culture" • Dec 28, 2019 01:24 PM

Weird. Black rappers always seem to be in the middle of this stuff. And shot by their bruthas. Hard to fathom. Rock and rollers? Not so much.

Sick, perverted culture of violence. No morals. No parents. No faith to guide them.

New Orleans -
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nola.com/news/crime_police/article_62d8ce16-28ee-11ea-b2bb-e35fb688c6b9.amp.html ↗

Toronto -
https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/25/americas/bvlly-christmas-eve-death-trnd/index.html ↗

Jacksonville -
https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/19/us/rapper-xxxtentacion-killed-indictment/index.html ↗

Chicago -
https://www.google.com/amp/s/abc7chicago.com/amp/chicago-rapper-lil-reese-shot-critically-injured-in-country-club-hills/5691163/ ↗

LA-
https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/31/us/nipsey-hussle-los-angeles-shooting/index.html ↗

Detroit -
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.detroitnews.com/amp/2079234001 ↗

St. Louis -
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.kmov.com/news/man-charged-for-shooting-killing-east-st-louis-rapper-prosecutors/article_0c584f0c-deb7-11e9-a318-a7d43c7306d3.amp.html ↗

New York-
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/ny-manhattan-man-shot-dead-20191115-wkyqooumbrdgljcgy5hbiwrrxu-story.html%3foutputType=amp ↗

New York -

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2019/12/18/nyregion/tekashi-69-sentenced.amp.html ↗

Inner City "Culture" • Dec 28, 2019 01:23 PM

You know, someone else’s fault

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nola.com/news/crime_police/article_7f625758-28ff-11ea-9538-5f117fbaaa6c.amp.html ↗

Inner City "Culture" • Dec 28, 2019 01:21 PM

Outrageous. Felon. Should be in prison.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/17/us/north-carolina-student-slammed-charges/?iid=ob_mobile_article_footer_expansion ↗

Inner City "Culture" • Dec 28, 2019 01:20 PM

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/videos/us/2019/12/02/new-orleans-canal-street-shooting-surveillance-orig-js.cnn ↗

Inner City "Culture" • Dec 28, 2019 01:18 PM

38 shot last weekend in Chicago. No crimes committed by legal gun owners.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.chicagotribune.com/news/breaking/ct-chicago-weekend-gun-violence-shootings-20191223-ibqpe5mjdfhg5nmupezftwswqa-story.html%3foutputType=amp ↗

Inner City "Culture" • Dec 28, 2019 01:05 PM

Conceal Carry stops shooting by thug - https://www.google.com/amp/s/abc7chicago.com/amp/lansing-hooters-shooting-causes-panic/5791432/ ↗

Conceal carry stops robbery by thug -
https://abc7chicago.com/video-woman-with-concealed-carry-license-fatally-shoots-would-be-robber-in-fernwood/5034294/ ↗

Leftists don’t want us to be able to defend ourselves with our guns.

Why vote for Trump? Why can I vote for a guy that personally turns my stomach? One of the reasons - Because he won’t do that. Warren, Bernie, et. al. - they will.

Policy over personality.

Inner City "Culture" • Dec 28, 2019 01:02 PM

https://www.google.com/amp/s/wgntv.com/2019/12/27/17-year-old-shot-at-popeyes-in-south-shore/amp/ ↗

Inner City "Culture" • Dec 28, 2019 01:00 PM

https://www.kctv5.com/news/local_news/olathe-police-investigate-aggravated-robbery/article_2c6bb81c-28ed-11ea-bda6-8f97d6f31e54.html ↗

Stanford Cardinals - Sunday - 2pm - ABC • Dec 28, 2019 03:31 AM

@mayjay I hear you. Sounds like we're in the same boat. My right ankle ... broken twice by rolling it to the outside long ago ... is like jelly. I'm not even sure I can sprain it anymore rolling it to the outside. No real pain. Doesn't impact running, lateral movement, etc. Just stretched out for good, I think. I came down messing around playing BB in the driveway about 10 years ago, in low cut socks, and scraped my ankle bone on the concrete. Laid it flat to the side. Didn't even really swell up. Crazy. I've rolled it a few times since and just fell over. I think it might fall off at some point. But when I've done anything of consequence since, I've worn a lace up brace just for stability. Tape is great but those lace-up braces are easy and reliable for gray, quasi/pretend athletes. Getting old is great.

Thoughts on KU 2020 • Dec 28, 2019 02:48 AM

Interesting on Moss .. all made 3s this season were assisted. Meaning no made 3s came from him creating his own shot.

Thoughts on KU 2020 • Dec 28, 2019 02:07 AM

@bmensch1 Jason Sutherland — hands down for me.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/2760413001 ↗

Wiseman signs with an agent. This is how it should be. Get these kids out of CBB that poison the sport. They great a false narrative that there needs to be changes — for these select few. They deserve to be able to make a living when they want to. Leave CBB alone. Please, please, let’s have the NBA prep academies. Competition is what will crystalize the true value of what CBB offers to athletes.

Inner City "Culture" • Dec 27, 2019 11:15 PM

https://www.foxnews.com/us/virginia-dennys-robbery-doordash-driver-dead ↗

Thoughts on KU 2020 • Dec 27, 2019 06:53 PM

This got me looking .. not picking on Moss. Just observations. Worst rebounds per 40 min played (1.7), second worst steals (.6) and assists (.5) per 40 minutes played (Silvio the worst). The last two are tough stats for a guard. Second worst PER (Enaruna the worst).

My first thought was that from a 5th year senior and that it would be hard to see it changing a lot. But in his season at Iowa last year, the numbers were 4.7, 2.9, and 1.5. So much better from an activity level. Maybe needs to get acclimated? Some guys just do better as starters, too. Don't know.

Inner City "Culture" • Dec 26, 2019 11:56 PM

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.detroitnews.com/amp/2731975001 ↗

Inner City "Culture" • Dec 26, 2019 11:56 PM

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.kmov.com/news/suspect-in-st-louis-county-dice-game-killing-arrested-in/article_d7e78212-ca4c-11e8-b7d2-dbf3c5448969.amp.html ↗

Inner City "Culture" • Dec 26, 2019 11:55 PM

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.kmov.com/news/woman-charged-in-galleria-shooting-over-argument-about-money-with/article_abc49bca-1ea1-11ea-9557-17de7eaa2f0a.amp.html ↗

Inner City "Culture" • Dec 26, 2019 11:54 PM

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.kmov.com/news/teens-among-shot-on-christmas-day-around-st-louis/article_46989d7e-2765-11ea-84c7-eb2334ddd5a3.amp.html ↗

Inner City "Culture" • Dec 26, 2019 11:54 PM

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/9-shot-1-killed-in-christmas-eve-shootings-across-chicago/2192977/%3fakmobile=y&akdevice=androidphone&sslEnabled=true&amp ↗

Inner City "Culture" • Dec 26, 2019 11:52 PM

https://www.kmbc.com/article/two-men-were-robbed-and-beaten-the-thieves-got-away-with-dollar1-police-say/30333722 ↗

Thoughts on KU 2020 • Dec 26, 2019 07:03 PM

@BeddieKU23 That's a good point. Maybe reallocation of minutes is more what @drgnslayr was saying.

I'm really negative on McCormack and Doke together -- offensively from a "meshing" standpoint and defensively based on how Self chooses to defend. I know what I like and I don't like that. I really liked the 3/2 idea when Silvio was part of it. I made a bad assumption apparently because I thought Silvio would be really good. But Self has correctly (I think) limited his time given his poor performances. Very unexpected. Others here predicted it I know.

If Silvio doesn't come around soon, he might be one to leave on the bench. Only perhaps have Doke and Dave overlap about 7-8 minutes a game, and go 4/1. I'm leaning that way.

Doke or Dave, + Enaruna, Garrett, Agbagi, Dotson, with Braun and Moss. Tight 8 man rotation with Moss only playing if that shot is on. If it's on, Braun plays less. Maybe?

Inner City "Culture" • Dec 26, 2019 05:31 PM

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/teen-wanted-in-connection-with-barnard-students-murder-is-located/ar-BBYmydH?ocid=ientp ↗

Thoughts on KU 2020 • Dec 26, 2019 04:03 PM

Question for the group - Is it just me, or is Braun just a better all around player than Moss right now? Moss is one of the least active players I've ever seen. I would never, ever use Moss except for some possible offense off the bench. I just can't imagine that Self likes him as a player. All he does is shoot the three and he is as advertised, streaky.

When shortening rotations as @drgnslayr mentioned, I actually might bet on Braun the rest of the way over Moss. Not sure though.

Inner City "Culture" • Dec 25, 2019 02:27 PM

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/christmas-day-shooting-seven-year-old-girl-chicago-family-gathering-today-2019-12-25/ ↗

Inner City "Culture" • Dec 25, 2019 02:05 PM

https://www.kshb.com/news/local-news/homicide-victims-families-grieve-during-the-holidays ↗

Inner City "Culture" • Dec 25, 2019 06:27 AM

https://www.google.com/amp/s/myfox8.com/2019/12/24/multiple-people-shot-in-5-points-area-of-high-point/amp/ ↗

Inner City "Culture" • Dec 25, 2019 05:20 AM

https://www.wafb.com/2019/12/24/one-adult-one-minor-injured-christmas-eve-shooting/ ↗