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Let the firings begin β€’ Apr 03, 2017 10:08 PM

@mayjay

Interesting to see how he will do considering he has no HC experience. No question he still has a well known name among Georgetown fans but I am not sure recruits ever saw him play or really know much about him...winning will fix that in no time.

Game #1 - Twins 3:10 PM β€’ Apr 03, 2017 10:04 PM

@brooksmd

Lots of videos on YouTube about it or you can use this link. β†—I seem to recall that plumbers have a specialty tool that you can pick up at any decent hardware store that makes the removal that much easier.

KU Players Leaving/Staying Tracker β€’ Apr 03, 2017 09:01 PM

@ParisHawk

I think @mayjay post makes sense, don't you think?

Frank Mason III is the Gold Standard β€’ Apr 03, 2017 08:53 PM

@drgnslayr

I am hoping that when he moves from second to top option and team quarterback he will have a sense of urgency like Mason did this past season. If he comes back, it will be his team and his chance to have Mason like season and improve his standing in the draft.

Bragg - Thoughts and Feelings? β€’ Apr 03, 2017 08:47 PM

@CRH107

I like the way you think. Your explanation makes sense to me.

Frank wins the National Association of Basketball Coaches POY award and Coach self also got an special award, The NABCaward is considered on of the more prestigious awards....link here... β†—

TCU WINS NIT β€’ Apr 03, 2017 04:58 PM

@jayballer54

Here is a history if the tournament format:

  • 1939–1950: 8 teams
  • 1951–1952: 16 teams
  • 1953–1974: varied between 22 and 25 teams
  • 1975–1978: 32 teams
  • 1979: 40 teams
  • 1980–1982: 48 teams
  • 1983: 52 teams (four play-in games before the tournament)
  • 1984: 53 teams (five play-in games before the tournament)
  • 1985–2000: 64 teams
  • 2001–2010: 65 teams (one play-in game to determine whether the 64th or 65th team plays in the first round)
  • 2011–present: 68 teams (four play-in games before all remaining teams compete in the round of 64; from 2011 to 2015, the round of 64 was deemed to be the second round; beginning in 2016, the round of 64 is again deemed to be the first round)
Recruiting Master Thread Part Deux β€’ Apr 03, 2017 04:53 PM

@BeddieKU23

...as long as the checks clear...:smiley:

Frank Mason III is the Gold Standard β€’ Apr 03, 2017 04:52 PM

@drgnslayr

I just don't see it as a rebuilding year. No question that it is not easy to replace Mason; however, If Devonte stays the drop will not be great. One year older and more experienced Vick, Svi and Cunlife should be able to compensate for the loss of Jackson. Lucas rebounding will be missed but with Doke back, Preston available, Coleby playing much better and hopefully improved versions of Bragg and Lightfoot the front line will be considerably better. Also, Garret will be a stud and probably the steal of the class; he has played PG in HS and now he is listed at 6'8" which would make it more of SG or a SF but he can play PG if needed and would have a huge height advantage.

In short, with what KU has coming back, it should be at least as good or better than last season and if Coach Self does his usual magic and snags a top PG, KU should be much better. I am sorry but not a rebuilding year.

Bragg - Thoughts and Feelings? β€’ Apr 03, 2017 04:39 PM

I believe the off season will help him a great deal. Between his freshman and sophomore years, Bragg changed his body dramatically. Not only he grew, by some accounts 2 inches, but he gained 30+ pounds ad now he has the build of a real PF that can bang inside; however, his mindset is still has not caught up to his body and he is still trying to play more of a finesse game and avoiding contact. I have mentioned before that Bragg plays as if he had Lightfoot's body and Lightfoot plays as if he had Bragg's body...go figure...

Over the summer, the staff will work with him developing an inside game better suited to his new build and with a mid range to boot and I am optimistic that we will see a different player.

Recruiting Master Thread Part Deux β€’ Apr 03, 2017 12:02 AM

High profile out transfers reflect poorly on the program and give potential prospects pause...

Roy: Master of Illusion β€’ Apr 02, 2017 07:24 PM

@BShark

There isno question that with the players available, Coach Self has achieved the most and Calipari the least, although this could be argued considering the FF he has made.

Frank Mason III is the Gold Standard β€’ Apr 02, 2017 07:21 PM

@Eric-san

Not many left. As per KU site...

CANDIDATE:
- NABC Player of the Year - April 2
- Bob Cousy Award for Point Guard of the Year - April 7
- Wooden Award - April 7

He would appear to be a shoe in for the Cousy and NABC awards and the Wooden is the only one left. Having won so many already, it would appear that the Wooden would also go to him. I cannot imagine Mason winning all the awards and not the Wooden.

TCU WINS NIT β€’ Apr 02, 2017 07:11 PM

@RockChalkinTexas

Texas won the NIT in the late '70s...I don't even remember KU's record that far back....that is 40 years ago and Texas was not even a member of the Big 12. Back then the NCAA tournament had only 32 teams and the NIT was a lot more prestigious than it is today.

Frank Mason III is the Gold Standard β€’ Apr 02, 2017 06:57 PM

@approxinfinity

Even the write up on the KU website" target="_blank" rel="noopener">http://www.kuathletics.com/news/2017/4/2/mens-basketball-mason-awarded-naismith-trophy.aspx) β†— has a whole paragraph about Citizen watches...it just does not seem right.

Final Four Game Thread β€’ Apr 02, 2017 04:31 PM

It is not that Coach Williams left, we all knew he would sooner than later, what bothers me is how he did it and for that the blame fall squarely on former Jayhawks Dean Smith, who burnt all bridges with KU.

So IF you had to β€’ Apr 02, 2017 04:27 PM

@dylans

If, and is is a big IF, the NCAA imposes the penalties UNC deserves, it could seriously handicap it for several seasons and I can see Coach Williams leaving and letting someone else rebuild the program.

So IF you had to β€’ Apr 02, 2017 04:16 AM

@Crimsonorblue22

I don't claim to have any insider information; My info is all second or third hand and I am just repeating what I have been reading in various media over the last couple of years.

So IF you had to β€’ Apr 02, 2017 04:05 AM

@Crimsonorblue22

He will be 67 shortly and with some health issues. With one more title he would have nothing left to prove and he is definitely well off financially; why not retire and enjoy life without the huge responsibility of coaching an elite program while he can.

So IF you had to β€’ Apr 02, 2017 03:54 AM

@Crimsonorblue22

It would depend on what they have coming back. I will guess they will try to push the sanctions back until they have a down year which obviously will happen when Coach William retires; this is pretty much what they have been doing anyway.

So IF you had to β€’ Apr 02, 2017 03:49 AM

There had been a lot of talk the last couple of years that as long as UNC had a team capable of winning the Tournament they would push back the grade investigation so Coach Williams could retire with one more title. If UNC wins the title, it would not surprise me to see Coach Williams retire and UNC settle with the NCAA for hefty penalties that do not involve vacating a title or titles.

Bill Self Likely HOFer β€’ Apr 01, 2017 04:28 AM

CBS is also announcing that Coach Self will be voted into the hall of Fame... β†—

Ok question time β€’ Apr 01, 2017 04:14 AM

@mayjay

When I first came to KU in the late 70s, KU offered a Bachelor of Arts in General Studies that basically required 120 credits of any kind; however and to the best of my recollection, that degree was done away in the 80s since it was determined that in the real world it did not have much value. It is possible that it could have been reinstated later but I would not think it would be.

As far as I know, the School of Liberal Arts covers many disciplines and the people in that program usually pick a primary major and sometime a minor as well. I am more familiar with the sciences degrees where the degree is more specific such as Bachelor of Science in Civil Engineering or Electrical Engineering or Computer Science...no question what you studied and what your degree is. 😎

FRANK WINS THE OSCAR ROBINSON TROPHY! β€’ Mar 31, 2017 09:35 PM

@mayjay

I was writing the post and verifying that the regional was indeed in Lawrence and did not see your post..I did post a link...:smiley:

FRANK WINS THE OSCAR ROBINSON TROPHY! β€’ Mar 31, 2017 09:26 PM

@wrwlumpy

That is not correct. AFH has hosted 38 NCAA games including opening rounds in 1976 and 1979 and regionals in 1956, 1958, 1959, 1963, 1967, 1978.

In 1959, Cincinnati with Oscar Robertson beat KSU in the regional final and the game was indeed at AFH. β†—

If you think KU got bad PR, look at Oregon's β€’ Mar 31, 2017 08:21 PM

It is really a sad reflection of the current state of our society where winning trumps doing the right thing. College athletics are a big business and administrators look the other way to issues such as this and they seem to care only that you win and not how you do it.

By the way, the win at all cost is not unique to college sports, big businesses of all kinds operate the same way. Perhaps this is more obvious to us older posters that have seen the changes in the last 50 years and wonder how did it all go so wrong, and perhaps not as much to the younger posters for whom this is the way it has always been.

FRANK WINS THE OSCAR ROBINSON TROPHY! β€’ Mar 31, 2017 08:03 PM

@Crimsonorblue22

I was responding to @wrwlumpy's post. Look at the names and numbers...

Recruiting Master Thread Part Deux β€’ Mar 31, 2017 08:02 PM

@BShark

Do they still do this or do they red shirt not-ready players?

Recruiting Master Thread Part Deux β€’ Mar 31, 2017 08:02 PM

@Crimsonorblue22

I was referring to basketball, football is a lot different since you are dealing with 80-100 players instead of 13-15. Hard to give playing time even in practice to that many players in football. In basketball, ever single players is used and sometimes they even have student assistant participate. I would be shocked if Coach Self ever told a prospect go play in JuCo and we will visit after one or two years...just sayin'...

From 2008 Mario and the champs β€’ Mar 31, 2017 07:49 PM

@Crimsonorblue22

Link does not work...

FRANK WINS THE OSCAR ROBINSON TROPHY! β€’ Mar 31, 2017 07:47 PM

@wrwlumpy

The picture is rotated backwards...:smiley:

Recruiting Master Thread Part Deux β€’ Mar 31, 2017 05:24 PM

Looks like Preston is all setup to play at KU...

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Recruiting Master Thread Part Deux β€’ Mar 31, 2017 05:22 PM

@Crimsonorblue22

I did not men that in a derogatory way. I went to JuCo the first two years so I am am aware of the advantages of a good JuCo. It is indeed an extremely good option since the firts two years of most careers student usually take basic classes that a JuCo can provide for a very reasonable cost.There is no question that many JuCo programs have lower admission standards than major schools and sometimes, superior HS players with sub-par grades go there to raise their grades and bide their time so they can move to a major program; I believe that is the definition of purgatory....the place you go to atone until you are ready for the next level.

Two-year Johnson County Community College in Overland Park has 46,000 students enrolled in credit and non-credit classes...this is more than KU and KSU combined...not bad...

KU WALK ON TAKES HEAD COACHING JOB AT UNCW. β€’ Mar 31, 2017 05:02 PM

@BeddieKU23

Makes sense. Andy Enfield, the previous coach at FGCU before Dooley, translated his one post season success into the HC position at USC.

Recruiting Master Thread Part Deux β€’ Mar 31, 2017 04:57 PM

@BeddieKU23

Sometimes it depends why a player ended up in JuCo. Some just do not have the talent for Division 1 but explode in JuCo and others do not have the grades and have to do a one or two year sting in Purgatory...in a manner of speaking. In any case and as I indicated, the ones that end up as contributors in Division I are few and far in between.

Wow just when you think β€’ Mar 31, 2017 04:49 PM

How do you think the situation is going to affect how Higgins calls games going forward? Will the NCAA assign him to a UK game again? If this is the case, does this type of fan behavior becomes a tool to get rid of refs we don't like?

For all I know he might still be calling games in the Final Four.

TCU WINS NIT β€’ Mar 31, 2017 04:45 PM

@Barney

UNC went to the NIT not that long ago and lost in the Finals to Dayton. We all remember Kentucky being bounced on the first round of the NIT by Bobby Mo...:smiley:

KU WALK ON TAKES HEAD COACHING JOB AT UNCW. β€’ Mar 31, 2017 04:36 PM

@BeddieKU23

I would think that by now Dooley is a candidate for bigger programs...

Recruiting Master Thread Part Deux β€’ Mar 31, 2017 04:27 PM

I am leery of JuCo players. Yes, they dominate in JuCo play but it is just a step above HS and more than a step below mid minors. There is huge difference between JuCo and Division I and regardless of how much a player dominates at that level, it is highly unlikely he will do the same in Division I. With very few exceptions, I would consider a JuCo player a bandaid solution or maybe bench insurance but I would not count on one to be a substantial contributor...maybe at a small program but not at an elite one.

MASON AP PLAYER OF THE YEAR - ALL AMERICAN β€’ Mar 30, 2017 10:29 PM

@jaybate-1.0

Absolutely. Consensus First Team All-American will do it and some of the POY awards will do it as well.

2017-18 Schedule β€’ Mar 30, 2017 10:05 PM

@wissox

Indeed. I wonder what would happen if the staff allows the player that currently has the number to play him one on one, beats him and then he asks to transfer (I would)...zero upside on the entire situation. My guess is that it will be handled quietly behind the scenes but one of them is not going to be happy. I just don't get why Porter had to make it public,,,I can see why coached hate Twitter,

MASON AP PLAYER OF THE YEAR - ALL AMERICAN β€’ Mar 30, 2017 09:24 PM

@mayjay

There are several other publications that name a POY in addition to the awards mentioned in Wikipedia. There must be a site that lists all of them...

KU Players Leaving/Staying Tracker β€’ Mar 30, 2017 09:17 PM

@BeddieKU23

...and they have 10 days after the NBA Combine, which is is set for May 11–15 in Chicago, to withdraw, so May 25 will mark this year’s deadline; until then, we will not know for sure. I would expect Devonte, Svi and maybe Malik to give it a try, provided they are invited.

MASON AP PLAYER OF THE YEAR - ALL AMERICAN β€’ Mar 30, 2017 09:07 PM

@wrwlumpy

There are several major awards and, if I recall correctly, it is rare when one player sweeps all of them.

UNC EASYHEELS IN FINAL FOUR: I MISS EASYGATE β€’ Mar 30, 2017 09:04 PM

@mayjay

TouchΓ©; however, I was not advocating one side or the other, I was simply stating that the NCAA should stay out of politics.

MASON AP PLAYER OF THE YEAR - ALL AMERICAN β€’ Mar 30, 2017 09:01 PM

I believe he is the Naismith and Wooden Awards short of a sweep. Does anyone know who the last player to sweep all the major awards was?

KU got beat by a better team β€’ Mar 30, 2017 08:59 PM

@mayjay

I simply asked the question since the answer probably would indicate which is the better team. Other than Football where it is logistically impractical to have teams face each other more than once, just about every other major sport, other than college basketball, has teams facing each other more than once. I have always been on favor of having a 2 out of 3 format for games starting with the elite 8; it would take some of the luck, or lack thereof, of the current format. I don't believe this will happen anytime soon.

FWIW, I believe that KU would take the series 4-1 or 4-2 and it does not make me feel better or worse. As much as I like basketball, I take it for what it is, a sport/entertainment and one more or one less win does not change any thing important in my world/life. Sure, I would have preferred KU won but losing is not the end of the world and I already derived a full season of enjoyment from the team. Remember, every team in the tournament except one, end its season with a loss.

MASON AP PLAYER OF THE YEAR - ALL AMERICAN β€’ Mar 30, 2017 08:43 PM

It is offcial, Mason is the AP Player of the Year β†—

KU got beat by a better team β€’ Mar 30, 2017 08:39 PM

@mayjay

If KU and Oregon play best of seven, who do you think would win that series?

UNC EASYHEELS IN FINAL FOUR: I MISS EASYGATE β€’ Mar 30, 2017 08:37 PM

@wrwlumpy

No problem. Kansas is only one of several states where California State Schools will not be allowed to travel. Sooner or later the NCAA has to concentrate on sports and get out of the social policy making role.