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@drgnslayr

I really don't believe they will find anything that has not already reported. She called the police and gave them her version of what happened, SOP for the police is to err on the side of safety so they arrested him on "suspicion" of battery. In order to keep him detained they had to charge him with something or release him which is what they did. Once they became aware that there was video of the incident they procured it and once it was proven that he did not do anything wrong and her story was false, charges were dropped and she was charged. I believe the process worked as well as it could have under the circumstances. The accuser needs to be held responsible for her actions. which obviously had consequences and could have costed Bragg his career.

I am going to guess KU personnel was on top the entire time and knew it would not take long to get unraveled and wisely stayed out of it, lest be accused of interfering, and let the process take its course.

@Crimsonorblue22

Kevin Kietzman is a known KSU big time homer and KU hater; nothing new there.

@Crimsonorblue22

I don't know. I am not sure if Fraternities and Sororities are considered to be part of the University or private institutions associated with the University; I would think it is the second. I know that in the past Frats/Sororities have lost "accreditation" or they have been put on probation because of things such as hazing, but I am not sure individual member are treated any differently than any other student.

@jayballer54

Probably not. I don't believe the school can regulate what students do on "activities" unrelated to the University, unless she is convicted of a serious/major crime and chances are she will be go to a diversion program of some sort and her record expunged upon completion. Any proceedings by the University could be viewed as retribution and could potentially lead to litigation, particularly if she claims minority status (I believe her family is from Pakistan), although in another month or so this will carry a lot less weight.

Perhaps the lawyers that post here can chime in?

The sound you all hear is the gigantic sigh of collective relief by the Jayhawk Nation...Smiling emoji here :smiley: ...

@globaljaybird

I see a restraining order issued.

@globaljaybird

"The Douglas County District Attorney’s office on Wednesday dismissed the misdemeanor battery charge against Kansas basketball player Carlton Bragg and filed a battery charge against Saleeha Soofi, the woman who claimed Bragg punched her."

Cased closed for him, for her...not so much...

"Video evidence shows Bragg acted in self defense, "forcefully" shoving away a woman who placed her hands near his neck and hit him in the chest multiple times, the release said."

Sound like a text book case of self defense, Case closed. Hopefully he gets a new appreciation of what playing ta KU means and does not place himself in a situation that can end his career before it even begins. Hopefully a learning experience for the entire team as well.

@justanotherfan

Again, I did not indicate the POY should get a guaranteed anything. I simply indicated the POY should be invited to come and give it a try and prove he is worthy of a schoolie or even a walk on spot; I guess you can see it as the equivalent of a courtesy interview.

@ParisHawk

The Conference and ESPN have an agreement to broadcast one game on Monday night during the season via the main ESPN feed and obviously they prefer to have KU which is the main attraction. ESPN also broadcasts other conference games on Saturdays either via ESPN or ESPN2 ESPNU ESPNews and so on. Weekend games tend to have large audiences so KU is always a candidate. Unlike the Big 12, the ACC has more teams that draw large audiences and they don't need to have just Duke and UNC on all the time.

In other words, the cost of getting national exposure is having Saturday/Monday games.

@Crimsonorblue22

There are several publications/groups that name the state POY; the Gatorade nomination appears to be one of the better ones since it does not have the in-state bias and/or politics.

@Crimsonorblue22

All using legal means and laws enacted by Congress; Standard Business Practice. Bankruptcies lose money from investors that knew the potential risks (and rewards) going in; we have no say in how the Federal Government spends the taxpayers money.

Term limits and having Congress do away with their own retirement and health insurance plans and joining Social Security and Obama Care like the rest of us would fix the problem in a hurry.

When all a 2-10 team can offer is playing time, not many top prospect will consider. Once the team get to .500 or better with Bowl prospects, recruiting should pick up.

@Kcmatt7

You can also see lots of pictures in her Facebook account. According to several publications, their standards for publishing "alleged" victims information are higher than those at the Topeka Capital Journal.

@Crimsonorblue22

How do you figure that?

@justanotherfan

Again, The POY should always get an "invitation" but not a guarantee to make the team or to get playing time; he could well end up as a walk on. There are more that one POY publications; the Gatorade POY seems to be the one of the better ones and correspond pretty much with who you mentioned as candidates. Here are some recent ones including the years you mentioned...

1997 Gatorade POY Maurice Evans

2003 Gatorade POY Ryan Rindberg

2007 Gatorade POY Tyrel Reed

2008 Gatorade POY Travis Releford

2009 Gatorade POY Perry Ellis

2010 Gatorade POY Perry Ellis

2011 Gatorade POY Perry Ellis

2012 Gatorade POY Perry Ellis

2013 Gatorade POY Semi Ojeleye

2015 Gatorade POY Dean Wade

Do you really think that Ron Baker or Evan Wessel should have won in 2011 over Perry Ellis? I don't think so. Baker was largely an unknown in HS that ended up walking up at WSU and taking a red shirt his first year; the only schools somewhat interested in him were Arkansas–Little Rock, Eastern Illinois, and South Dakota State...at that point, hardly a prospect KU would go after. He did develop into a very good player.

@ParisHawk

Yes, No question that Embiid showed signs of greatness while at KU but it took him longer to get there (he started 20 of the 28 games he played) and once he became productive he got injured (at Texas) and was not quite the same after that and then he was out for the rest of the season. Jackson has been very productive and started since day one and hopefully he will be a critical component of this team and a potential Championship,

@dylans

Exactly my point. The Royals won mostly with players they acquired while they were inexpensive and prospects they developed themselves and before they became stars. Now that they are bona fide stars, they will likely be gone since the organization cannot keep them all at the salary they now command and they will have to start the process all over again. With their income, the Royals can keep maybe two high end players and the rest need to have much lower salaries. The TV contract for the Royals allows to pay 2 players $10M per year, the one for the Dodgers allows 11 players at $20M per year.

While a few owners keep their teams as a hobby and don't mind losing some money, most are businessmen that do not want to lose money but want a return on their investment, i.e. profit instead. It is really Business 101, you cannot spend money you don't have...unless you are the Federal Government...of course.

@ralster

All 3 players named accomplished more than Curry. Manning and Durant were named POY, Tisdale was 1st team All American in his freshman and junior years. Manning was a#1 draft pick while Tisdale was #2 behind Ewing and Durant was also #2 behind old man Oden...shades of Bowie-Jordan. Curry won most of his awards in his conference and was selected #7 in the draft.

@drgnslayr

Believe it or not Bolivia, Peru and Chile went to war over guano fertilizer and salitre in 1879 in what it is called the War of the Pacific.

Fuggly...

@ParisHawk

Jackson has proven to be a quick learner as well. Remember all the silly fouls at the beginning of the season? You don't see them any more and he is playing under control the great majority of the time. Really impressed on how well he is progressing; I can't think of a better or more impact player going back to Manning. Wiggins was also very good but at times too deferential; Jackson is a lot more assertive than Wiggins was while at KU.

@ralster

The POY of the State of Kansas should always get an invitation to KU; however, playing time should not be a given or guaranteed. Reed and Ellis proved themselves to be Major Program worthy players and "earned" substantial playing time, Frankamp did not...it's that simple.

@mayjay

I can't seem to place them from my Firefox browser anymore. I can do it from an iPad though...go figure...

@mayjay

Every single great players want to do it his own way and not copy someone else, this is what makes them great...no one want to be knows as the second coming of xxx or...xxx the second or part two and so on. Iverson almost single handed took his teams to the payoffs 8 times;, with better teammates or playing for a different team with better players he has multiple titles.

Keep in mind that when Wilt took the 76ers to the Championship, the League in '66-'67, the NBA had only 10 teams and 8 made it to the playoffs; he also had much better support including Hal Greer averaging 22 points, Chet Walker and Billy Cunningham, both with 19 points. When he won the Championship with the Lakers in 71-72, he had an All-Star support cast and he was no longer the player the team depended. That team included players like Elgin Baylor, Jim McMillan, Jim Cleamons, Keith Erickson, Gail Goodrich, Happy Hairston, Pat Riley and Jerry West. No one would ever call Wilt overrated, right?

To me, overrated is an average player that gets a lot more credit by virtue of playing for great teams or with great teammates. I don't believe you can say this about Iverson because he played for crappy teams and with average at best teammates and yet managed to have big numbers. This is one we agree to disagree...smiley face emoji here...

@BeddieKU23

I saw that.

Villanova - Legit but one Josh Hart injury away from being an average team.

UCLA - Legit. High scoring team but other than UK, the best team they have played is Michigan ranked in the 30s. 6 players have taken 3 point shots and all are shooting well over .400. Live by the 3, die by the 3.

USC - With that schedule, every Big 12 team is unbeaten.

Gonzaga - Legit, Good wins over ISU and Arizona

Creighton - Solid team with good wins over Wisconsin and other major conference teams. Marcus Foster has been a huge plus.

Baylor - Legit with big wins over several ranked teams; perhaps best record of the bunch.

@Kcmatt7

Unfortunately, the Royal;s cannot compete with the big market teams. The only way to have a competitive team is to develop players early, by finding diamond in the rough as it were, and then watching them move to richer teams when they develop into superstars. Royals TV contract ~ $21M in 2016, Dodgers TV contract ~ $230M in 2016...can't really compete with the big boys money-wise.

@jayballer54

Scottie Pippen is in everybody's All-Time top 50, so he definitely gets plenty pf credit. You have to consider that when talking about Chicago. the arguably Bets Player of all time, Michael Jordan, will always come first. It is the equivalent of asking about KU's greatest player, the name Wilt will always comes first. This does not by any means indicate the players like Lovellette, Manning, Pierce, Gooden, Collison Hinrich, to name a few, are not appreciated, it simply means that Wilt was the GOAT and everybody elae comes behind.

@mayjay

I am not sure I agree withe Iverson. He led he league in minutes played 8 times, scoring 4 times. steals 2 times and took very poor Philly and Denver teams to the playoffs 8 times.; unfortunately the supporting cast was so poor that he alone could not do it. If we go by this criteria, you would have to also consider players like Chamberlain and Ewing since they really did not deliver championships in the same proportion as their individual stats. He was one of the best one on one player ever. Here is a video of Iverson doing to Jordan what he did to everybody else...

@Texas-Hawk-10

Look at how coaching and coaching and winning a major bowl is worded and rewarded; seemed like the numbers for the non major bowl are switched. Just how I read it...

@Crimsonorblue22

So...if he coaches KU in a non-major bowl and loses he gets $200k but if coaches KU in a non-major bowl and wins he gets only $100k?

For reference, look how coaching and winning a major bowl is worded.

@Fightsongwriter said:

@JayHawkFanToo That girl in the pic is 4'2"

But...she is wearing heels. Smiley face here...

@approxinfinity

Then you have a legitimate beef with the DNC since it conspired to marginalize Bernie and hand the nomination to Hillary. No guessing there since it is a proven fact that even Bernie got rightfully POd about.

The sad truth is that in these elections we all held our noses and voted for who we thought was the lesser of two evils...or the less evil of two lessers...or...

@mayjay

Good question, The kid did have a solid BBall IQ.

@HawkChamp

Otherwise, fouls, for example, during the first half would be accumulated which obviously goes toward getting in the bonus and of course separate fouls against the players.

It is not clear from your post but fouls counting toward the bonus are reset at the half.

@approxinfinity

Of course I am joking. I don't believe the Russians or anyone else could have cancelled those appearances...oh, wait...someone did...

Just yanking your chain a little. It's all good.

P.S. FWIW, White House spokesman Josh Earnest just indicated there was no evidence of hacks impacting counting and/or casting of ballots.

I believe that it will be pretty close to Stanford or Georgia. Sagarin has Stanford 10 places higher than Davidson with Georgia in between and Ken Pom has Davidson 5 places higher than Davidson and Georgia above both of them, They are all generally ranked in the 50s-60s.

@mayjay

Amen brother.

@drgnslayr

The big difference is that we now have the luxury of having several "go to" players. Mason, Graham, Jackson and on a good day Svi and Vick are all capable to deliver in crunch time. The '08 teams is probably the last team with that many go to players.

@KUSTEVE

Yep. If they were able to get into Hillary's schedule and cancel all her appearance in Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin, who knows what they are capable of doing...those pesky Ruskies sure hate Catholics.

P.S. I am Catholic.

Question...does it really make a difference if you beat a team by 20 or 30 or 40 points? If you are ahead by 20 points, should you keep your foot on the gas and run up the score or just coast and not spend any more effort than you have to, knowing that if you have to you can build up the lead again? Isn't it better, once you have build up a lead, to try different combinations and schemes...or rest players as many here would prefer,,, and use the rest of the game as a live laboratory instead of running up the score?

I get it that the computer ranking take point differential into account, but if I understand correctly, after a certain point it really does not make that much of a difference. Interested in what you all think.

@BeddieKU23

The answer is probably yes and no. If Bragg continues to play like he has so far, his presence would be missed but would not be key to what KU does in March. However, if he continues to improve and and reliably get doubly digits in scoring and a half dozen rebounds while staying out of foul trouble, he could be an important part of the team and one it can use for a deep run in the Tournament.

@globaljaybird

Countries have gone to war over guano so it is big time s##t. LOL

@approxinfinity

I believe you took my post out of context.

I never indicated that Facebook was or is a legitimate news source, I simply indicated that the link in the very first post quotes what the officer in the middle of this controversy wrote himself...just about word for word. It did not embellished or changed the context, it simply reported what the alleged aggrieved party reported. Again, Heat Street reported what was trending on Facebook without changing the first person account of the event or vouching for its authenticity. This is the equivalent of the press reporting on Bragg's deal, which is a news worthy event, without vouching for one side or the other since all the facts were and still are not in. Should the press not report at all that Bragg was arrested, even when all the facts are not in and he might actually be completely innocent? I think not.

This morning I visited with a friend who happens to be a policeman and had seen the story. His comment was that police uniforms are designed as to not leave any doubt that the individual wearing is in law enforcement. His words were...you would have to be a moron not not know the individual was a law enforcement agent, hard to believe that a college student and a criminal science professor could not see this...I am paraphrasing, of course. The fact that the University apologized to the officer tends to give validity to his account.

As far as Punditfacts, much like Snopes, it is a liberal leaning group with definite agenda and a lot of the "verification" of comments made by conservative individuals are routinely rated as "mostly false," even when the great majority of the facts are proven true and just a small percentage is ambiguous. Frankly I do not trust either right or left leaning sources and prefer to do the verification myself; with the abundance of search engines, it is not that difficult.

Enough politics, back to KU basketball.

@BeddieKU23

If his FT continues to stay low, teams will start fouling him to send him to the line and he will have to sit the end of close games. Hack-a-Shaq will become Poke-the-Doke...I should copyright that.

@BeddieKU23

Many HS and AAU coaches are pathetic and all they do is send players to play and win based on talent alone and not coaching; many times what they teach is actually incorrect. I have heard college coaches say they spend the majority of the pre-season breaking players from bad habit acquired in HS. JJ and Doke appear to be good examples of what happens with inferior coaching.

Having said that, there are also excellent HS coaches that work with players on their techniques and get them properly prepared for the next level. KU has had many players that came in with sound knowledge if the game and properly prepared and then there are the Dokes and Alexanders and Diallos that are wholy unprepared, although in some cases it is also due to Not having played long enough.

@BeddieKU23

Sounds like a groupie with serious issues. If it happened to Vick before, why was she around? About time to get a restraining order to keep her away from the entire team, if that is possible. I know the coaching staff has list of places (bars and such) that are off limits to players; sounds like this girl should be in that list.

Connor Vanover video

@ralster

If Giles plays, no doubt Duke is the favorite; however, with every game he sits, the chance of him playing become smaller. With his history of injuries one more likely ends his career and he might choose to sit and get at least one contract in the NBA.

@ralster

Umm, no. If it only was true...the showers were designed for very tall individuals.

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@approxinfinity @DanR

The article on the original post cites almost verbatim what was posted by the oficer on Facebook and has been widely reported in that social media site.

I have friends and relatives in law enforcement and I know that uniforms, including those worn by SWAT teams, are specifically designed with plenty of identifying features so as to leave no doubt that the wearer is a law enforcement member. In my opinion, the statement by Loyola .University sounds like CYA to the overreaction by a student and a professor who could not identify a police uniform. Just my take.