I have more than one poster replying to my posts so I must have missed something.
I said KU at most wins one game (Baylor) and you said you disagree with my assessment but then you say you don't think KU wins any of those games either? Don't we actually agree?
Thanks for the assist, the game is indeed at Baylor.
FWIW, the opening line is what Vegas thinks is the most likely outcome and both sides will bet evenly based on that number. Once bets start coming in, the line changes, not because one team is now suddenly better or worse than the other (unless an injury is reported) but it is done so both side will bet equally and the house is guaranteed to make money on the vig.
Crimsonorblue22 said:
@JayHawkFanToo have you seen his X-rays?👨⚕️
How and why in the world would I have access to his x-rays?
He has been listed at the same height for the last two season (Jr. and Sr.) so all signs appear to indicate that he has stopped growing. This is just my opinion and by no means a fact and I did not presented it as such either.
His one year older brother Parker is 6'8ish but I believe Christian is pretty much done growing and he is as tall as he will get; maybe one more inch but no more than that.
KU is listed as a 7.5 point underdog to Baylor, arguably the worst team in the conference not named KU...and the game is in Lawrence. Do you really believe KU wins 3, 4 or 5 conference games? I really wish it would but I just don't believe it will.
BShark said:
If Missouri didn't have a scholarship for him, Arizona probably didn't either. They probably passed but schools never put that out there. Like when KU moved on from Jacobs, they let him say he was de-committing and re-opening his recruitment.
I could list tons more examples of guys that reported a KU offer but couldn't commit. Rafus ended up at Eastern Michigan btw.
From the Arizona story I cited above...
"The Wildcats offered Braun in April and it appears their recruitment will take another step forward, as Braun told 247Sports that he plans to take an official visit to Arizona after the dead period ends this week."
"If Arizona fails to land Braun, it may roll over its last 2018 scholarship to 2019 since there aren’t many other players left on the market. Arizona’s 2018 recruiting class currently ranks 21st in the country."
Again, I cited several sources but you are also free to disagree.
MOKAN players do not favor KU; this is a good development.
Realistically, The one chance KU has of of winning a conference games is against Baylor and the Vegas line now has Baylor favored at -7.5. KU will be an even bigger underdog the rest of the way. A win against Baylor might change things some but a loss would be pretty bad and likely the end of Beaty's tenure.
BShark said:
@JayHawkFanToo lol
If you choose to believe that I can't stop you.
SBNation is a respectable publication, Here is one ↗ from Fan Side and another ↗ from Rivals and yet another ↗ from Arizona...
I saw him play a couple of time and he is a pretty good defensive player with an outside shot. I was impressed.
BShark said:
JayHawkFanToo said:
Yes. His older brother Parker had several P5 offers, including Arizona , and chose to be a walk on at MU; he is a pretty good player as well. Their mom, Lisa Sambothe (sp?) and I believe other relatives played ball at MU.
Let's not go too crazy. He didn't turn down a full ride at Arizona to walk-on at MU. He did do that to Illinois though, which is hilarious.
Yes, he did ↗ and also Illinois LSU, Ole Miss and Nebraska.
The part where we diverge is on what you call the "toss up" games. The only game I would consider a toss up is Baylor all the games you call toss up I would say KU has a chance of winning but ar not at all toss ups which to me means either team can win and I don't believe this to be the case.
CMU and Rutgers are really bad teams and we cannot draw much from those two game, the loss to Nichols State provides more insight but Pooka did not play and he seems to be the key piece of the offense now. We will know more after the Baylor game.
Yes. His older brother Parker had several P5 offers, including Arizona , and chose to be a walk on at MU; he is a pretty good player as well. Their mom, Lisa Sambothe (sp?) and I believe other relatives played ball at MU.
KU can put so many different combinations on the floor that we will likely see 2 or 3 different ones per game, depending on the opponent's strengths and weaknesses.
Recent history would have a bearing if the exact same teams would be playing but all teams are very different than there were one, two or three years ago..
OSU dominated a very good BSU team, no way KU wins that one. TCU gave #4 Ohio State a very tough game and had a chance to actually win before OSU pulled away in the second half and it was only a 12 point loss. Texas has the talent and it is starting to put it all together; I just don't see KU winning this one either, maybe after the Maryland and Tulsa games but after watching watching how well they played against #22 USC I have very little hope for a win. Tech has just too much offense and playing at home will not lose to KU. OSU and TCU are currently ranked #15 and #17 and wins over them would be huge upsets and unlikely to happen.
Does KU have a chance to win more than one game? Of course it does but realistically anything over a one conference win would be a surprise to me, a very nice surprise but a surprise nonetheless.
The question is which would be the conference wins? Baylor is certainly a possibility but beyond that I just don't see it.
Best possible scenario is 4 wins but most likely is just one win...maybe two if everything falls in place.
Reputedly certainly has a more explicit or definite meaning than words such as apparently, allegedly or supposedly and in the legal world they could be critical; however, in a forum where sometimes moot and mute are used interchangeably the difference is perhaps not as big.
Having said that, we all know that Jaybate tends to present his opinion as fact, never lets the facts get in the way of a long, long, long post and after writing a 10,000 word essay about an imaginary conspiracy he will qualify it by saying he does not believe in conspiracies...and if you ask him to cite sources, he will either ask you to do the research for him, fill the thread with empty/buffer posts...whatever that is, start a personal attack or all of the above. Pretty predictable actually. :smiley:
No worries. Coach Self will pull a rabbit from the hat and an Ace from the sleeve...he always does and this is why KU wins so much.
I take it you like Mahomes? For a minute I thought it was a Jaybate post.:smile:
I respectfully disagree. I met Coach Gill and he is without a doubt one impressive and outstanding human being; however, his coaching record is not nearly as good.
This is his coaching record ...
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Keep in mind that Buffalo had returned to Division I 5 years before Gill took over and were still experiencing the pains from moving up. Jason Whitlock, who follows the MAC closely, wrote an article about Gill's best season at Buffalo and how the record was created with smoke and mirrors with close calls and poor competition. His overall record there is a below average 20-30 and 14-18 and in his last season there the slide down had already started.
About Liberty...
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His record is not nearly as good as that of the previous coach and his success is based mostly in Conference play. His overall record is 41-29 and 22-10 and 4 championships in 6 years where his predecessor was 47-20 and 26-5 and 4 championships in also 6 years and ranked in the top 25 his last 4 years and Rocco is the one that inherited a poor program (see table above) where Gill came in where Liberty was already good. Again, how much better did he make Liberty?
There is a lot of hindsight revisionism of Coach Gill's record and a a fair amount of it is wishful thinking.
Many years ago, my family used to vacation on the Outer Banks in North Carolina (Duck, Nags Head). We would rent these big houses they have there (5-6 bedrooms) that will hold 15 to 20 people and stay there for a couple of weeks in the Summer. Beautiful place to stay on a vacation but I would not want to be there during a storm.
About 10 years ago I was in Sarasota and we were invited to a friend’s home located on a multi story, high end sea side condo and their apartments was located in the 3rd or 4th floor. It was the typical warm and sunny afternoon but then a storm came in with heavy rain and lots of thunder and lightning, nothing particularly severe according to the locals, but watching the “angry” sea made me rethink ever retiring to any sea side location.
TCU within 5 to start the 4th quarter, Texas comfortably ahead by 23 at the end of the 3rd quarter.
Rutgers is this season’s version of last year’s Kansas.:smile:
Bad day for the Big 10.
No question that Pooka gives KU something it did not have and that is an improvement and 2 wins are better than 1 but the wins have been against really bad teams.
KU will win this game going away but let’s not kid ourselves, Rutgers is a really bad team so I am not sure we can read much from this win...at least not yet.
Pooka was a shoe string tackle away from breaking a big one or at least get a first down.
When is the last time KU scored 31 points in one half? Could have been more if not for the blocked FGs but could have been a lot less without the 2 interceptions returned for TDs.
Wow, that was surprise...
wissox said:
@Texas-Hawk-10 My Fox Sports Go shows 5 games, but not ours. It does show a replay at 8pm tonight. I'm a bit confused!
It is on Fox Sports Midwest.
Fouls per 40 minutes... Doke - 5.1, Mitch - 6.3, Silvio - 7.5. For being so mismatched at Center, Mitch fouling is not that bad.
Offense plan: Pooka right, Pooka left, Pooka middle, Pooka here, Pooka there, Pooka everywhere.
Defense plan: Dineen right, Dineen left, Dineen middle, Dineen here, Dineen there, Dineen everywhere.
KUSTEVE said:
@JayHawkFanToo Mitch is a better shot blocker than Dedric or Silvio? I disagree.
Look at the stats from last season.
- Doke - 858 minutes, 60 blocks or 1 block per 14.3 minutes
- Mitch - 531 minutes, 54 blocks or 1 block per 9.8 minutes
- Silvio - 175 minutes! 3 blocks or 1 block per 58 minutes
The reason Mitch was ineffective a lot of the time is because he was forced to play Center, and was most of the time mismatched inside by much bigger players. He would have been a lot more efficient playing the more natural stretch 4 or small forward which I suspect is where he will contribute this season.
Mitch has been shooting lights out from outside in the off season and has bulked up quite a bit. I see him playing the stretch 4 from here on.
Mitch is a better outside shooter than Dedric and also the best shot blocker among the bigs.
Apparently Florence has been downgraded quite a bit but still very dangerous. Stay safe.
But...that is a NCAA rule not a Kansas rule, right?
what exactly does the new rule changes from the current rule?
How is this different than other states? Does the rules apply to all schools or only State schools? Bishop Miege is a private schools so perhaps not affected?
Looks like the situations you named are few and far in between, so, should the rules be changed for all or maybe i would be better to add a few exemptions that would take care of the 3 cases you mentioned?
@tis4tim
Maybe this one?
Don't those West Coast players tend to stay in the West Coast? I see UCLA, USC, Arizona and Arizona State are recruiting him.
BShark said:
The new rules are absolutely terrible for lower to mid level prospects.
Can you please expand on this since many of us are really not that familiar with the new rules and also, how can they be changed without major disruptions to schools' schedules and budgets?
Any top 100 player and even many well below that will receive lots of attention from lots of programs. Look at Markese Jacobs...after he decommited from KU he received a number of offers from P5 programs even when he is not even a top 100 player at this time. It is really not surprising that the top players get numerous offers even from programs that do not have a chance but hope for a miracle. As fans we are spoiled because regardless who the prospect is, KU will always have a decent shot by virtue of being an elite program.
My first question is how does Kansas compares to other similar states as far as the number of games/travel rules are concerned?
I would not have a problem with increasing the number of games but having top prospects play each other is more complicated because many times there are logistic problems (distances, cost) and also the various teams play in different classes and, while it might be fun to watch top prospects play each other, it might not be fair for small town programs play a higher class, big city programs. Perhaps a post season tournament where the top 4 or 8 programs in the state, regardless of class, compete could be a potential solution
As you know, HS sports really don't make any money and depend heavily on the school's budget to exist. At a time when school budgets are stressed to the limit, cuts would have to be made on scholastic programs to subsidize sports teams travel which is very expensive. If you look at the top programs that do the majority of the travel, most are either sponsored basketball factories such as Oak Hill, Findley or wealthy and/ or for profit, primarily Catholic or private schools, that have their own support system and financing such a Mionteverde, Mater Dei, Bishop Gorman, St. Anthony, St Joseph Prep., DeMatha, Montrose Christian, all with wealthy endowment accounts and wealthy donors; most public schools cannot financially keep up with these programs so, the the AAU programs during the off season, appears to be the best option. Keep in mind that the primary role of High Schools is to educate all students and not necessarily prepare a few elite athlete for college.
List is growing and getting to be pretty impressive.
I believe he retired from coaching 3 or 4 years ago. He was an amazingly successful coach and his teams were pretty dominant which was partly because they were loaded with Division I talent that did not qualify for various reasons and Butler was the popular destination. Many KU players including several that ended up in the NFL came from a Butler. Still... it was at the Junior Colege level and there is huge and I mean HUGE leap from retired JuCo coach to P5 coach and I cannot think of a single coach that successfully made the move. One that comes to mind is Terry Allen who was 75-26 at Northern Iowa (much higher level Missouri Valley conference, Division I, not JuCo), won the conference all but year one and see how he did at KU. Morrel would be a considerably higher leap.
Having said that, I believe he might be an improvement over the current coach but he would need to work through the Division I ranks as an assistant or coordinator at major programs before he has any chance to a HC position. The optics of hiring him now would not be good. The headlines would be...KU gives up football, hires retired JuCo coach to lead the football program. It just will not happen.
I did not say a 1 year peak but a one time peak. In the 3 prior years the income increased due primarily to one time contributions which were part of the fundraising campaign and will not repeated and were double that of the second place program. Texas is still the leader on income from all the other sources including ticket sales, endorsemen, merchandising, TV revenue and even concessions. Now that the fund raising campaign is pretty much over, revenue will drop to its more normal level.
When and if KU goes through with its big $300+ million improvement plant, it will see a similar one time peak and then it will come down.
Knowledge is power, and ignorance is bliss.
The Texas A&M is a one time peak in income as a result of its big fund raising campaign but it cannot be supported at that level and it will soon come back to its previous level.
jaybate 1.0 said:
JayHawkFanToo said:
The video is widely available and the lines were taken verbatim; you can always find it and verify...maybe Jaybate can help you with that. :smiley:
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