Norm did his best. Unfortunate situation.
You can't blame a guy for not being able to fill the shoes of one of the best to ever do it.
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@BeddieKU23 said in KU Offseason Chef Bill Cooking Thread:
Sorry I meant Bobby, Joe, MJ.
I really think McDowell will be good here at some point. Really interested to see how he does this offseason because I could see him getting minutes but it's too early to tell.
I'm not sold Chris will be mature enough to handle the coaching and his emotions on the court. It's a huge concern. I'll hope for the best. He didn't exactly have a banner year at Montverde, playing PG on a stacked team. He didn't start if I recall either. Probably a 2 guard here that can handle the ball like Self likes. He's turnover prone as well. Thinking he's going to be a bit of a project but if he puts it together I'll be excited to see what happens.
CJ isn’t going to see the floor much as a freshman just based on what we’re seeing at prep school. Emotions or not.
@approxinfinity Kevin is literally playing at his max potential. Guy put up the same numbers basically every year of college.
Fair or not, I’m ready to let Kev leave. We’d probably be better with him, but he throws the dynamic off coming back imo.
He just doesn’t have the shooting ability or athleticism to be a volume scorer and that’s what he’d want to be.
Bring in fresh faces and go from there.
Like whatever strides the staff expected from Zach I expect to actually happen from Udeh and Zuby
@BeddieKU23 I think as long as Zuby stays, the 5 spot has the depth to handle Udeh starting and getting as many minutes as his 5 fouls will allow.
Also fully expect both of those guys to make massive strides this off-season.
@BShark said in KU Offseason Chef Bill Cooking Thread:
Do NOT rule out Udeh starting at the 5 next year and KJ coming off the bench. All I will say on the matter.
This would be the ideal development. But would be fine with KJ starting and Udeh off the bench. Ultimately I think that gets split 50-50. And you’ll see a few minutes a game with them on the floor together.
@dylans said in KU Offseason Chef Bill Cooking Thread:
@BShark It almost seems like you’d be better off recruiting college players than high schoolers. Take 5-6 transfers and 1-2 quality freshmen. No time for disappearing acts on the big stage. Let some other team develop the players, then poach what you want with offers of glory and NIL money that the little schools can’t touch. It’s the Wild West of the free agency period in college basketball. The ncaa has no idea what unregulated payments will do. Hint it’s not spread the wealth. The current big boys will only get more exclusive and the bottom feeders will get markedly worse.
I saw this somewhere, and find it to be true.
“There aren’t any pros in the transfer portal.”
That’s why you add HS guys. You aren’t poaching many guys with NBA potential. You can win without those guys, but it’s significantly harder… I also think you can add better bench guys through HS. Plus good transfer portal guys are twice as hard to get. The line is longer and the NIL more expensive.
We could argue raw talent vs experience vs whatever all day.
What KU lacked this year was any semblance of depth. Period.
KU needs to have 7 or 8 guys who can play basketball at this level. Idc if they are freshman or seniors. But this year was honestly unacceptable. The transfer portal and NIL should almost guarantee KU has 7 dudes who can play. We didn’t this year, and I felt like it cost us big time.
@Crimsonorblue22 Josh Jackson had legal issues here.. Brannen Green. LeGerald Vick. Carlton Bragg.
Morris Twins nearly beat a guy to death.
KU has their own issues with players.
@cragarhawk said in Hog Wild Game Thread:
Overall honestly one of the funnest teams I've ever watched. I think they had a high ceiling but definitely didn't get there. Always a sad day when it's over
They had two games all season where they “clicked.”
The Mizzou and Indiana games.
At least we aren’t Mizzou getting embarrassed by a 15 seed
@mayjay who is “turning” on the team?
@Kcmatt7 said in Hog Wild Game Thread:
This team was talent deficient whether people want ti believe that or not. Really good college players, but overall they weren’t deep and lacked an “elite” guy imo.
Not to mention the bench was tissue paper thin
This team was talent deficient whether people want ti believe that or not. Really good college players, but overall they weren’t deep and lacked an “elite” guy imo.
Let’s start churning. 8 new faces next season would be my guess
@dylans it’s different being the guy managing everything than looking for one thing. Jmo.
A lot of guys are great assistants and otro le beach coaches. In all sports.
@BShark said in Hog Wild Game Thread:
How many points do we think Self was worth here? At least 10?
You can tell that the initial game plan worked great. But then they adjusted and Norm never did
@bskeet said in Hog Wild Game Thread:
Self would have substituted before a 11 pt lead evaporated.
He also would have been in the refs asses about how that game was called.
There is so much that goes into being a HC. Working the refs. Calling plays. Changing how you defend screens. All that good stuff.
Norm, for as great of an assistant as he is, is an assistant for a reason.
There is no free throw more guaranteed to go in than the one you need to miss. Why it’s so hard I’ll never understand lol
I tend to think Bill gives us the edge. Did we get a bucket on any inbounds plays?
Pissed that one away at the line. Had every opportunity and then some to win.
@Crimsonorblue22 yes. And Johnson. Black has 3
The lineups in this game if it goes to OT will be hysterical
@approxinfinity no, 2nd or 3rd according to bleacher report
Make ‘em Kev. Free throw contest from here on out
Great time for a set play
Lmao zone? Bills going to have a real heart attack
@BShark still if we blow this one, we deserved it. We had every chance to put this one away in the 1st half
@benshawks08 probably 8 minute mark you put Udeh back in. 4 minutes KJ
Princeton let’s Mizzou back in right at the end of the half.
How can you play more straight up than that?
Flagrant? Lol.
@Bwag nope Vegas
Just realized our one made 3 was that one from Joe 😂
@kjayhawks yea 8 is not enough of a leave without Juan
Block all day lol
That’s not a moving screen. First one was, but not that one
Juan should go for 20. They CAN NOT GUARD HIM
@benshawks08 yep just keep doing what we’re doing. We should be up more than we are, but we’re winning every facet of the game right now.
Lmao PLEASE try to beat us with jumpers Arkansas
Also if they want to take this awful long 2s all day we’ll win by 10
Oh. I’m not sure they can guard us. Early, but Juan getting where he wants when he wants
Whoever the strength coach is for Tennessee we should go poach 😂
@FarmerJayhawk said in NCAA NON- KU GAMES:
Purdue are the biggest chokers in this whole ass tournament and it’s not close lmao
Matt Painter should retire in shame
Literally just an amazing storyline all around
I didn’t think I’d like the NBA challenge rule. But it helps in situations like this where the call should have been a foul. And because it wasn’t, the wrong team ends up with the ball.
@Kcmatt7 the point being, there are CLEAR signs of basketball having significantly more parity
And they told us the transfer portal would ruin CBB.
@BShark said in NCAA NON- KU GAMES:
WE ARE CLOSING IN
Bshark literally told us for weeks that Purdue were fraudulent.
Who’d have thought this though 😂