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@BShark said in 2022 Recruiting Thread:

@rockchalkwyo said in 2022 Recruiting Thread:

@BShark said in 2022 Recruiting Thread:

@rockchalkwyo Don't think Rice sticks (hurrr) but it is nice to see recruiting back.

I completely agree. As you said awhile back, the Death Star is back in operation.

Last two classes needed to be awesome, and they are with time to go in the current one.

Had to make up for 2020 which is already all gone. Not terribly surprising given there was a JUCO and a D2 level guy involved but man, I thought Bryce was going to be good.

I did too. But I think he's going to be overseas bound professionally. Ditto Grimes (I know, someone wasted a pick on him), who I thought would be a star. If I remember right @Texas-Hawk-10 called it, on Grimes.

Udeh was a massive get, with Dick, Zuby and hopefully Rice. I know, @jayballer67 doesn't approve of my post, but oh well lol

Alright people, odds on Rice playing for us? I say 55-45, in our favor. What say you?

I am a Braun guy, he's a solid player and good dude. I like Harris too, he stays at Braun's home when they're not on campus. I want both to succeed.

@BShark His job? Be our inside monster.

@jayballer67 I'm not ruling him out. Step up our NIL game now!

@jayballer67 feel better now? Lol..

Update - yep, the LSU job is open. How much you wanna bet - I know, they're talking about Fisher going there - against that they'll be trying to woo Finkell away from Cincinnati?

@BShark thanks for the info.

@jayballer67 I heard that we made his final 18.

@BeddieKU23 Think he's going to give us a year?

I loved me some Aldrich... He had a great three year(?) career. He was bigtime in our Final Four (first time that he was really used, right?) matchup against UNC. My god, Psycho T had better days - over the top, over the top,,,, rinse and repeat.

@KirkIsMyHinrich they are definitely high on something, and I'm not so sure that it's just B1G teams...

@BShark oh, you killer of dreams!

@jayballer67 not sure.... Remember Big O though, he went to Duncanville.

I'd take the LSU job - which will be available after this season - before USC. I love me some gumbo!

Kansas vs. Kentucky in basketball, or Lakers vs. Celtics...? Please, no comparison.

When is Udeh announcing?

@bskeet said in 2022 Recruiting Thread:

I wonder if the staff created an NIL recruitment program that is sufficiently competitive with those considering to go pro/g league.

"You can now make money either way... Why not come to the cathedral for a year, kick off your sponsorship business here as well as your basketball career?"

Agree, we need to be on our game just for GP, never against people making money. ...

Other side of the coin, the big-trunked elephant in the room though? How do you keep certain players engaged when they are already millionaires, but not yet able to enter the draft?

Case in point (I know, not basketball related), Spencer Rattler. He went from being Rattler to just flat out Rattled, and he was the pre-season Heisman frontrunner and projected #1 overall NFL draft pick. Caleb Williams, a highly coveted true freshman who didn't even play high school ball last year, has made him look totally pedestrian. Why?

I know, Williams was this year's number one qb recruit out of high school, is the real deal and has to start - bigtime talent, OU flows with him at the helm. But Rattler was also a number one duel-threat qb recruit coming out of high school, and is a 3rd year sophomore and OU flowed with him last year - totally shellacking Florida in their bowl game.

He is now a shell of his former self. Why? What, he suddenly couldn't stand the spotlight and or crumbled with newfound competition? Naw, I say he lost his edge due to being fat, dumb and happy, and it did not do him any favors. To the transfer portal Rattler comes, because at this point it is a stretch - a couple months ago he was the projected #1 overall pick on Mel Kiper's big board - for him to even be selected in the first round. I wouldn't burn a 1st round pick on him, sure wouldn't.

Prediction - high school football recruits will soon ask, "why can we make millions from NIL but not be able to enter the NFL draft?" Not a big NFL fan anyway, the product sucks when compared to college ball, ditto the NBA (btw, I don't make decisions or rules, just a guy who pans through crap).

The one and done rule in basketball will soon go the way of the dodo too, undoubtedly. It only benefits the NBA it tries to protect an already shitty and too young product, and once OAD is tossed the league will be even more young and shitty, but oh well - I will not give one let alone two farts in its defense.... If a product is sound it will stand on its own, if not let it fall.

@Texas-Hawk-10 Nice of you to clarify.

@BShark am I missing something? Danny Manning coming back to Kansas?

@BShark said in Kansas starting 5:

Basically the loose cannon aspect. He is unlikely to change, and we know Self in general isn't changing.

I do think he will be a good player. I think ultimately Harris and Remy both start.

Yes, that is what I am saying. The guy occasionally ignores other players, while trying to get his. That might fly at Arizona State, but with the depth and talent that we have? It is a no bueno.

McCormack and Wilson, Agbaji and everyone else watching him constantly dribble drive? I don't think so. I am glad that we have him, and said so. But there is a reason why NBA teams didn't want to draft him - he is too small to be a two, and needs to learn how to be a point guard.

@BShark thank you. @Texas-Hawk-10 I like your opinions and you are important here in Jayhawk land. But understand, I know basketball too.

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Kansas starting 5:

@Marco said in Kansas starting 5:

@Texas-Hawk-10 and I understand why. I am bigtime onboard Remy being signed, but we have to be careful. We have too much talent and depth to become Remy centric.

If Remy isn't the leading scorer for KU this season, KU is in big trouble. Remy Martin fills the biggest need KU had and that was someone who can generate their own offense. Nobody on KU could do that with any consistency last season and made KU incredibly easy to guard.

This offense needs to be Remy-centric because Remy's skill set is what will allow other players to play to their strengths. Dave is great in a pick and roll situation, Remy's ability to drive opens that up. Agbaji can hit a corner three or go up for lobs, again Remy's ability to drive opens that up by making defenses collapse on him. Jalen Wilson can also hit a corner 3 and clean up the offensive glass, again, compliments Remy's game. Braun and JCL are best in catch and shoot situations and Remy's driving compliments that because those guys should get plenty of open looks on kick outs. Yesufu is another guy who can go get a shot as well and can play both the 1 and 2 so he makes sense as a back up. Dajuan Harris is also capable of hitting an open 3 so don't be too surprised if that's one of his biggest attributes on offense behind his passing ability.

Remy Martin is a great college player and was brought in because his game fits perfectly with what Self loves in a PG. Remy is veryuch in the Frank Mason/Sherron Collins mold of PG's that have thrived under Self.

How much depth and talent does this team have? Alot. I do not want to see only two guys scoring all year, then after getting a high seed getting beat early in the tournament. This is the deepest team that we have had since '08 (I said depth, not talent - though this team is talented). The ball needs to be shared.

I do not want us to be another Aldrich/Collins team (early exit), which - very similar - is probably what the Doke/Dotson team would have been too. This team needs to get players involved, everyone looking to pass and then take the shot if they have it. How deep are we?

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Kansas starting 5:

@Marco said in Kansas starting 5:

@Texas-Hawk-10 and I understand why. I am bigtime onboard Remy being signed, but we have to be careful. We have too much talent and depth to become Remy centric.

If Remy isn't the leading scorer for KU this season, KU is in big trouble. Remy Martin fills the biggest need KU had and that was someone who can generate their own offense. Nobody on KU could do that with any consistency last season and made KU incredibly easy to guard.

This offense needs to be Remy-centric because Remy's skill set is what will allow other players to play to their strengths. Dave is great in a pick and roll situation, Remy's ability to drive opens that up. Agbaji can hit a corner three or go up for lobs, again Remy's ability to drive opens that up by making defenses collapse on him. Jalen Wilson can also hit a corner 3 and clean up the offensive glass, again, compliments Remy's game. Braun and JCL are best in catch and shoot situations and Remy's driving compliments that because those guys should get plenty of open looks on kick outs. Yesufu is another guy who can go get a shot as well and can play both the 1 and 2 so he makes sense as a back up. Dajuan Harris is also capable of hitting an open 3 so don't be too surprised if that's one of his biggest attributes on offense behind his passing ability.

Remy Martin is a great college player and was brought in because his game fits perfectly with what Self loves in a PG. Remy is veryuch in the Frank Mason/Sherron Collins mold of PG's that have thrived under Self.

I said too Remy-centric, didn't say that he shouldn't lead us in scoring. You tend to be so cut and dry, at times, so academic that you don't even leave room for conjecture.

@BShark if we start bigtime recruiting a player who while not even close to the same but somewhat fitting Rice's skillset, then we'll know without anyone even giving any inside info that he is not going to step foot on caampus. Personally, I think that he is going to be a Jayhawk for one year. I want that dude in Lawrence! And we need to sign Udeh.

@Crimsonorblue22 flyover where? Do I need to tell people to not come over, and clean my house? You should have told me! I'm joking. Flyover where?

@Texas-Hawk-10 and I understand why. I am bigtime onboard Remy being signed, but we have to be careful. We have too much talent and depth to become Remy centric.

@jayballer67 said in 2022 Recruiting Thread:

@BShark said in 2022 Recruiting Thread:

Sorry I'm here to kill dreams. :p

So riddle me this Batman - -If it is now being widely said that he will play College ball and the only 3 colleges he has listed is Alabama Tennessee St and KU - -where is he gonna play his College ball ?

Another reason I think neve say Never IF it is College cause if he was so set on Alabama why even bother bringing KU back into the discussion ? & Visit - -so is it Tennessee St ?

He just wants himself a party weekend, more or less being wined and dined. Wouldn't you as a high school baller take an all expenses paid trip to Lawrence on a weekend? He is not going to play one minute of college ball.

@approxinfinity said in Kansas starting 5:

@Marco History is against you :)

Damn you, history! ... Don't get me wrong, I like Harris alot. But Yesufu can D up too, and he is a better than just average shooter from deep. I think that he adds more scoring punch, while not giving up much on the defensive end.

I guess what I'm asking, is Remy a PG or a small 2? We have alot of depth and talent. So whoever our point is, he is going to have to pass the ball and not just look for his own shot.

This is a team that needs to pressure on defense, get turnovers and run. Offensively, go quick pace and pass the ball. We have inside players/shooters now, and outside quickness.

@benshawks08 bro, I forget sometimes too. I think that Cam is going to play about 10 or 11 mpg. He can shoot from deep, and factor in that Coach bigtime recruited Clemence who at 6'10 can also shoot. I'm thinking that Bill is going to start mixing things up some from here on.

@benshawks08 My bad, I was talking about Cam. I've amended my post.

@BShark oh dream killer, I believe we can make it throoooouugh the niiiight! Freddy has nothing on @BShark

@BShark 😂

I would go Dave, Wilson, Agbaji, Yesufu and Remy. Harris, Braun, Cam, Long and Clemence the 2nd 5. Adams is the wildcard, might be hard to keep him on the bench.

@approxinfinity I predict that Mitch will pretty much be a bench cheerleader this year. He is going to have quit a few DNPs.

@benshawks08 how many minutes do you see Cam Martin getting?

@BShark agree. How long before the smaller schools in unison all try to get the new transfer rules squashed? Because without question, they have basically become farm teams.

@SlickRockJayhawk many good points. But why would Coach Self sign a big man renowned for being an outside shooter, then try to coach it out of him? Clemence is 6'10 and can stroke it from deep too.

@BShark what happened to Newman, is he playing overseas?

@approxinfinity Brady can drink beer quicker than just about anyone.

@mayjay lol but that's how we know, from experience!

Thoughts anyone?

@Crimsonorblue22 now that I'm growing older, I try to be too.

@Crimsonorblue22 I was just making a point that none of us are perfect. But so-called leaders, they need to be held to a different standard. A standard that people can look up to, and maybe even strive to be.

Maybe we are all homo-phobic, misogynistic racists? But when the leader of an organization or leader of anything, for that matter, hangs himself (and it is almost always a he, not a she) with his own dumbass words it leaves us with no choice - he gotta go. Silver linings playbook? Dumbasses like Gruden help us all to learn.

Alright, let's get busy.. So, the preseason conference predictions have been announced (player of the year, etc.). We know our team, pretty much its strengths and weaknesses. Who will (remember Coach is loyal) be our starting 5? And who would you start?

@jayballer67 Ostertag right? The Big O.

@BShark Yeah, Arkansas is bigtime digging deep. What is that, two top 20 recruits and counting?

@BeddieKU23 that would be great if Wilson came back, but unless he just has a bust season (and I don't think he will) there is no way that he's coming back.