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@jayballer67 said in 2021 Transfer Talk/List:

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in 2021 Transfer Talk/List:

@jayballer67 said in 2021 Transfer Talk/List:

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@Marco said in 2021 Transfer Talk/List:

@JAYHAWKFAN214 I don't want him to, but I'm not so sure. Doesn't his brother play at Mizzou? I think he's still there, right? And didn't one of his parents go there too? I'm a Braun fan and don't him to go anywhere, just saying.

Parker transferred to UC Santa Clara.

I'm right there with you on that. I don't want Braun going anywhere either. - -Seemed like he had decent Fr year - -struggled last yr , lost confidence in his shot. - -I can't count how many times he turned down wide open 3's towards the end he wasn't even looking for his shot at al. I look for him to rebound decently and play well. I think probably like others sem to think - -he will be coming off the bench , just hope he can accept his role and not get down on him self, but just don't want him to transfer out.

However now with this transfer portol thing and making things so easy, gonna be a lot of transfers yr after yr. Just hoping he isn't one of them.

The transfer market will not be like this every year because players can only transfer once without having to sit out. All of these kids transferring this year can't do it again unless it's as a grad transfer without sitting out. Expect the transfer rate to be closer to 1,000 most years going forward.

The cycle will still continue. Understand that the kids that transfer However you have a whole new group of 1st time transfers just like this year this year can't do it again without sitting out. This whole transfer portol thing is just insane

A 1,000 kids is a lot more than pre pandemic transfer rates which was about 6-700 kids per. We will not see 1,600 kids every year. Any time you see a major rule change such as this, there will always a spike of people taking advantage immediately and numbers will level off going forward.

@jayballer67 said in 2021 Transfer Talk/List:

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in 2021 Transfer Talk/List:

@Marco said in 2021 Transfer Talk/List:

@JAYHAWKFAN214 I don't want him to, but I'm not so sure. Doesn't his brother play at Mizzou? I think he's still there, right? And didn't one of his parents go there too? I'm a Braun fan and don't him to go anywhere, just saying.

Parker transferred to UC Santa Clara.

I'm right there with you on that. I don't want Braun going anywhere either. - -Seemed like he had decent Fr year - -struggled last yr , lost confidence in his shot. - -I can't count how many times he turned down wide open 3's towards the end he wasn't even looking for his shot at al. I look for him to rebound decently and play well. I think probably like others sem to think - -he will be coming off the bench , just hope he can accept his role and not get down on him self, but just don't want him to transfer out.

However now with this transfer portol thing and making things so easy, gonna be a lot of transfers yr after yr. Just hoping he isn't one of them.

The transfer market will not be like this every year because players can only transfer once without having to sit out. All of these kids transferring this year can't do it again unless it's as a grad transfer without sitting out. Expect the transfer rate to be closer to 1,000 most years going forward.

@Marco said in 2021 Transfer Talk/List:

@JAYHAWKFAN214 I don't want him to, but I'm not so sure. Doesn't his brother play at Mizzou? I think he's still there, right? And didn't one of his parents go there too? I'm a Braun fan and don't him to go anywhere, just saying.

Parker transferred to UC Santa Clara.

@bennie said in 2021 Transfer Talk/List:

by taking all these transfers i think Self is telling Harris he needs to transfer. He might be telling Braun the same thing. you can't fill a 13 man roster with 13 kids who all think and probably are good enough to play D1 bball. in the past most programs would give scholarships to 2-3 kids who they knew were more "glue" and "program" type kids who would tolerate sitting on the bench. Self is not giving scholarships to any kids like that. the last guy on the KU bench could be a starter at many P5 programs.
this is going to be worse than the NBA. the top college programs are going to have different players every year.

I don't agree with this take at all. Three of four transfers Self brought in are one year players to fill in the gaps on the roster until the freshmen are ready next season.

It's not hard at all to see how Self envisions this roster developing long term with an eventual starting line up a couple of years from now consisting of some combination of Harris, Pettiford, and Cuffe in the back court and some combination of Clemence, Curry, and Adams in the front court with Clemence and Adams after Curry moves on. The only spot Self is missing in the long term on this roster is a wing which has already been addressed in the 2022 class with Gradey Dick.

Bill Self is chasing a national title this season before the roster takes a step back next season and this team as constructed appears talented enough to do so as KU should have 6 upper classmen in the rotation next season including 4 seniors. Self turned one the least experienced rosters last season into one of the most experienced this season.

@approxinfinity said in Remy to Kansas:

@Texas-Hawk-10 yeah. We just didn't get to see it play out in the post season, the ultimate testing ground.

We saw how great the defense was against Baylor at the end of the season when both teams were at their peak in a game that was basically for the regular season title.

@approxinfinity said in Remy to Kansas:

OK 2020 doesn't count, as unfair as that is to say. 2016 didn't feel like a good defensive team.

Look at that roster and tell me you think "good defensive team".

Why doesn't 2020 count? They played 31 games which seems likeore than enough to be able to claim that was an elite defensive team because that was an elite defensive team.

@RockkChalkk said in 2021 Transfer Talk/List:

Its simple, Pettiford > Harris. This doesn't feel like HCBS initiating it though, more likely Harris approached him about it and had a talk about the future. I'm sure the official stance is that there will be a competition for the playing time, etc., but based on the game footage I've seen, I'm very convinced that Pettiford is the future starting PG for KU. After these last few signings it may not be next year but he won't be redshirted, he'll get a lot of run to get him ready to take the keys the year after.

Self hasn't used the words point guard to describe Pettiford so I don't think Self views him as a lead guard at this point. Self has described Pettiford as a combo guard which in Self speak means Pettiford is a 2 and will mostly be off the ball this year. In Self's eyes, Pettiford and Harris are not in competition with one another, Pettiford is competing Braun, Yesufu, and JCL for minutes because those three guys can play the 2 spot and in Yesufu's case, probably the starter at the 2 spot next season.

KU officials today announced the first two games against South Dakota and at Coastal Carolina have been moved to Friday nights on September 3 and 10 respectively.

KU is spending Thanksgiving in Orlando playing in the ESPN Events Invitational at Disney Nov. 25-28. Joining Kansas is Alabama, Belmont, Dayton, Drake, Iona, Miami, and North Texas.

Alabama is expected to be a top 10, maybe even top 5 team so expect KU and Bama to be on opposite sides of the bracket and be a potential early season top 5 showdown if both teams meet in the tournament. Belmont is another team to look out for as I've seen them as a potential top 25 team this season. A potential game against Drake would be interesting for Yesufu playing against his old program. Dayton is always well coached, Iona's still got Slick Rick on the bench. UNT won an NCAA tournament he last year. Miami is probably the worst team in that field.

@Marco said in Remy to Kansas:

@Texas-Hawk-10 I didn't say either, not as you are stating them. Said that the roster has kind of evolved away from his skillset, and that his minutes would and should diminish for the team that we have. There's a reason why Coach brought in the bigs that can shoot, right? I didn't say that he had no role, which is what you are implying.

This is where I flat out disagree with you and am saying you are going to be wrong about once the season gets going. Dave McCormack is going to be the second best player on this team behind Remy Martin assuming Martin eventually withdraws from the draft. You don't make your team better by playing your best post player fewer minutes.

This roster was constructed around's Dave's skill set to enhance Dave's abilities. Remy Martin is an aggressive PG who looks to drive and will open up the pick and roll and high ball screen offense that Dotson ran with Doke to perfection two years ago. This version won't be that good, but it'll be really damn effective. The biggest reason it'll be effective this year is because all the other rotation level players except for Jalen Wilson should be above averge shooters this season which means their guys can't sag off like last season to double and triple team Dave which was a common occurrence last season and took Dave time to adjust to. Dave will see a lot more one on one this year.

This team is not more athletic than last year, but it is much more skilled and built around players whose skill sets compliment one another.

As for Mitch, I never said anything about Mitch playing big minutes this upcoming season or even being a rotation level guy next season. I've already said what I thought rotation next season would look like and Mitch wasn't there. I said the starters would be R. Martin, Yesufu, Agbaji, Wilson, and McCormack with Harris, Braun, C. Martin being the primary bench guys with Pettiford and Clemence also getting time. With the JCL signing, that's a pretty strong indicator of Agbaji not returning so JCL can swapped into Agbaji's role.

@Marco said in Remy to Kansas:

@drgnslayr and that, in a nutshell, is what I was trying to say before before being told that I was full of shit 😂

Didn't say you were full of shit, I said you claiming Dave isn't a 5 or a good fit with this roster is bullshit. If you want to claim I said you're full of shit, then go right ahead.

@FarmerJayhawk I still stand by my opinion on Mitch that he'd have been better off at the 4 spot last year. I also said as soon as Silvio left the program that Mitch at the 4 was no longer a good option because KU no longer had a game ready 5 to back up Dave other than Mitch. Is Mitch a better offensive player than Jalen? No, but Mitch is a better defender than Wilson is and even if he can't keep all 4's in front of him, Mitch is great at altering and blocking shots at the rim which is something that was pretty non-existent out of Wilson last season.

@Marco said in Remy to Kansas:

@Texas-Hawk-10 it's not about his style. He is not skilled or aggressive enough to be called a true 5, yet due to his too high a motor, almost mechanical style nor can her play anywhere else. I am saying, he just doesn't fit with the current line-up.

All of that is a load of bullshit. You're contradicting yourself with your own statements saying Dave isn't aggressive, yet has a high motor. You're letting personal bias against Dave cloud your judgement on how good Dave is. Dave isn't the most athletic guy out there and guess what lesser athletic basketball players have to be to succeed in basketball? Fundamentally sound which looks a whole helluva lot like being mechanical.

You also clearly don't realize that Self has built next season's team around Dave to play to his strengths. Dave and Remy have very complementary skills to execute a lot of pick and roll this season or to just iso Remy opposite of Dave and have easy dishes to Dave of the defense helps off of Dave to cover Remy. Then you got Yesufu, JCL, and Braun all more than capable of lighting it up from deep. Then you'll end up with Wilson, Clemence, or Cam sitting in the corner on the same side as Remy waiting for a kick out if their man helps on a Remy drive.

This team will not be anywhere near as offensively challenged as last year's team was. McCormack will be a 15 and 8 guy and the second leading scorer for KU behind Remy Martin next season.

@Marco Sydney Curry is nowhere near ready enough to play yet and there's a reason why Cam Martin was a low major recruit that dropped to a D2 player. Dave was a McDonald's All-American. He was also by far KU's best overall player the last 2/3 of last season and the only reason KU didn't finish in the bottom half of the B12 last season.

Just because Dave doesn't play your preferred style of basketball doesn't justify trying to limit your best offensive player to just 20 minutes a game on a team that's going to be crap on defense and have to outscore people. Dave has to increase his minutes to near 30+ per game for KU to reach their full potential next season.

@Marco Who would you play ahead of McCormack? The D2 transfer that's less athletic than McCormack? The JuCo who's about 3-4 inches shorter and nowhere near skilled enough to be a big factor to this year? The freshman who's softer than a wet paper bag? The 14th scholarship player who couldn't beat Dave out last season? The stretch 4 who may or may not be back next season?

@Marco said in Remy to Kansas:

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Remy to Kansas:

@drgnslayr said in Remy to Kansas:

@Texas-Hawk-10

Maybe I'm over-projecting... it's nice to have positive thoughts between now and basketball season. Not sure why we would recruit Martin if he won't see the floor? Especially since he only has one year. Guys like him have sure racked up points on us in the past. He has no business camping in the low post. But he could pull out another team's 4 on the perimeter, opening up the middle for Dave.

I agree that Jalen needs to gain athleticism because he sure isn't a 4 at the NBA level. He doesn't really have the strength to guard the 4 either. Kid needs to muscle up and he should be doing that this off-season.

I think a redshirt would help Sydney. Especially since he has only two years of eligibility left.

I expect Jalen to get most the minutes at the 4... but I was thinking about bigger lineups... something Self seems to be moving away from anyways.

I'm not saying Cam won't play. I think he does play plenty as the primary back up to McCormack and spot minutes at the 4 spot on offense if Cam's playing next to Clemence or Lightfoot. I just don't see him being able to play alongside McCormack because that becomes a real defensive liability with each one's lack of overall athleticism and this team isn't shaping up to be all that good defensively next season, especially considering adding the ISU transfer to seemingly replace Agbaji is a terrible defender.

Jalen Wilson isn't going to be an NBA player. He's got a very similar style of game to Perry Ellis and Perry never really came close to making an NBA roster.

And therein lies the current problem (and he had a good season), Dave has kind of become absolete. The makeup and even strengths of this team do not serve his skillset. He should play fifteen, twenty minutes a game - tops. If he plays more (and Bill is loyal, sometimes to a fault) it will not, longterm, be good for the team.

Dave fits better with this group than last season. Last season's team couldn't shoot at all to spread the floor and open things up for Dave. This team should be much improved from deep which helps Dave out a bunch. Remy Martin running the show is going to make KU much better offensively than last year.

Only reason to take JCL, who is a wing, is Agbaji staying in the draft. Ochai is probably getting similar feedback to what Selden got in that his draft stock is probably as high as it will get at this point.

@drgnslayr said in Remy to Kansas:

@Texas-Hawk-10

Maybe I'm over-projecting... it's nice to have positive thoughts between now and basketball season. Not sure why we would recruit Martin if he won't see the floor? Especially since he only has one year. Guys like him have sure racked up points on us in the past. He has no business camping in the low post. But he could pull out another team's 4 on the perimeter, opening up the middle for Dave.

I agree that Jalen needs to gain athleticism because he sure isn't a 4 at the NBA level. He doesn't really have the strength to guard the 4 either. Kid needs to muscle up and he should be doing that this off-season.

I think a redshirt would help Sydney. Especially since he has only two years of eligibility left.

I expect Jalen to get most the minutes at the 4... but I was thinking about bigger lineups... something Self seems to be moving away from anyways.

I'm not saying Cam won't play. I think he does play plenty as the primary back up to McCormack and spot minutes at the 4 spot on offense if Cam's playing next to Clemence or Lightfoot. I just don't see him being able to play alongside McCormack because that becomes a real defensive liability with each one's lack of overall athleticism and this team isn't shaping up to be all that good defensively next season, especially considering adding the ISU transfer to seemingly replace Agbaji is a terrible defender.

Jalen Wilson isn't going to be an NBA player. He's got a very similar style of game to Perry Ellis and Perry never really came close to making an NBA roster.

@drgnslayr said in Remy to Kansas:

I'm always screaming for more guards and a heavy guard team... but I have to admit I'm excited with our post! I can see us with a big lineup that can work... especially if we get Jalen back. He's a natural 3. What can happen when we have Jalen at the 3, Dave at the 5... and we rotate Cam and Sydney at the 4? Cam and Jalen can definitely hit the trey while also driving to finish. Sydney looks like a crazy driving force! I wonder how his pass is? He could sure help Dave rack up some easy finishes at the rim! Now we have a dead-eye trey shooting PG who can also drive, and then add Ochai or Christian at the SG.... This is looking like one of those teams where we can try many looks... sizes... to see what works with what team!

Jalen Wilson is not now, nor will he ever be a 3 at the college level. He is nowhere near athletic enough to guard wing players considering he couldn't really guard 4's last season.

Cam Martin won't see many, if any, minutes next to Dave of Wilson is back because Martin makes McCormack look like Joel Embiid athletically. There's a reason why Martin went to Jacksonville St. and then dropped down to D2 and it's because he's not athletic at all so he and Dave together make KU's post defense suspect at best.

Sydney Curry most likely redshirts this season because he needs to drop weight to be able to utilize his abilities because he's not quick enough at his current size to be very helpful this season. He was also recruited with being Dave's long term replacement in mind and still needs a lot of work on his game to get to that point.

Did KU sign another PG that's a dead eye shooter because the one that just committed to KU sure as hell isn't a dead eye shooter unless you consider a career 33.6% 3 point shooter a dead eye shooter.

I'm also not sure why you'd want Ochai or Braun playing at the 2 spot when Ochai has next to no handles and Christian Braun was the 2 last year and was a liability in that spot 90% of the time last season.

KU's starting lineup next season assuming everyone comes back like they should will be Remy Martin, Yesufu, Agbaji, Wilson, and McCormack. Braun, Harris, and Cam Martin being the core subs with Clemence and Pettiford seeing decent minutes as well.

@Marco I don't think Clemence is ready enough for starters minutes, but I think he's coming in ready to play 10-15 minutes as a backup.

@BShark said in Remy to Kansas:

I don't think Zach will be ready defensively next year, especially against smaller and quicker opposition. Not exactly Jalen's forte either but Jalen is a much better option next year.

I don't ever expect Clemence to be good on defense because he's too much of a finesse player. That said, I think he's better suited to play defensively at the 4 spot because he's long enough to alter shots even if he's beaten by quicker players because he'll still have a size advantage over most other 4's he'd face. Clemence at the 5 on defense would just get physically manhandled by most post players for at least his first two seasons.

Zach Clemence is an ideal stretch 4 that I think can have a comparable career to Perry Ellis.

@BShark Zach Clemence can absolutely play next to Dave. Clemence has minimal low post game offensively and doesn't have the strength to defend post players. Their games compliment each other very well.

Remy makes KU a preseason top 5 program next season assuming Agbaji and Wilson come back.

Quite frankly, I don't even want KU in the Big 10. Nebraska is not better off athletically now than when they were in the B12, especially in football because they lost access to Texas for recruiting.

I also don't see this round of realignment/TV contracts being nearly as eventful as the last couple of rounds because the focus of realignment is different now than it was 10 years ago.

I honestly don't see much happening outside of maybe the P12 and B12 look at expansion from MWC, BYU, and AAC schools. I don't think the ACC, B10, or SEC being able to poach anybody this round from the B12.

@Marco NIL isn't something that's going to help a school like Gonzaga because it's nowhere close to a major city (Spokane is about double the size of Lawrence) so the marketing opportunities won't be there as they would be at a place like KU which also has a huge presence in KC. A place like KU isn't even going to see the full benefits of the NIL ruling unless the NCAA puts a cap on how much a player can earn in endorsements. Schools in or near places like Los Angeles, New York, Miami, and other marketing capitals are the schools most likely to see an uptick from NIL situations.

The Supreme Court isn't too far away from making a ruling in the Alston v. NCAA case which will put the NIL situation under federal law. The Kansas state legislature was absolutely right for vetoing the NIL bill within the state because it was bundled with the transgender kids in sports bill. Those two issues had no reason to be bundled together and needed to be legislated upon separately.

Also, the NCAA hasn't been headquartered in KC in over 20 years.

Didn't realize how bad of an outside shooter Remy was. Only 33% for his career from deep and not likely going to improve at KU. That said, he'd be a good lead guard as he has a really good assist rate and a low TO% which is a fear with Harris as the primary lead guard next season.

Plus Remy played a big role in helping ASU sweep the home and home with KU in 2017 and 2018.

@Kcmatt7 Will Wade isn't teabagging Emmert anymore. He's got Emmert bent over a table a table and locking eyes with him while doing it at this point.

@nuleafjhawk said in Spring Game:

@FarmerJayhawk There is no damn excuse. Kansas should have the best punter in the nation EVERY year. If you want to punt - get your ass to Lawrence, Ks.

Punters like winning too though.

@Kcmatt7 said in 2021 Transfer Talk/List:

@BShark Adidas needs to make this one happen.

But yea Wazzu has something going on lmao.

I think Bagley stays in the draft because he has a decent chance at being a first rounder.

@drgnslayr said in New S&C Coach For Texas:

She is quality... no doubt. But I have to wonder if her move to Texas was a good one. Sure didn't last... and I don't think her move back to UCONN is an upgrade. Maybe it is more of a lifestyle move for her. Regardless... I wish her well!

She didn't leave Texas voluntarily, she left because of the coaching change. Her new position entails more than just S&C and it's UConn women's basketball which is probably the top basketball program men's or women's right now. It's also home for her which I'm sure played a huge role in her decision.

@tis4tim said in Lance Leipold meets with Jayhawks shortly after arriving in Lawrence:

@FarmerJayhawk said in Lance Leipold meets with Jayhawks shortly after arriving in Lawrence:

Which would’ve just delayed it a year.

Exactly. I'd prefer not walking on eggshells for appeasement. Anyone who doesn't want to be here should just leave now as painful as it may be.

It's not walking on eggshells though. The decision was hire and outside coach without any competition from other schools after spring practice and basically make spring practice meaningless because of a new offensive and defensive system to install this summer and lose quite a few players. Or give Jones an interim year to keep the foundational pieces Miles brought in on board and risk not getting Leipold or Monken in December and having a weak 2022 class because of the uncertainty of coaching situation.

Either decision came with its own set of pros and cons and Goff made his decision now. Goff went with the mentality that Leipolay not have been an option in December if Buffalo had another great season as he probably would've been catching interest from bigger programs. Monken probably would've still been a viable option.

Leipold has the mentality and track record to indicate he should be able to turn KU around so hopefully it ends up working out. This year is definitely going to suck though and Goff knows this which is probably why Leipold got a 6 year deal instead of 5 like normal because this is basically a throwaway year as far as judging progress and this is more about installing systems and establishing the foundation for Leipold's tenure here.

This was always the risk of bringing in a new coach this time of year versus keeping Emmett Jones on an interim basis for 2021.

Andrea Hudy is headed back to UConn as the Director of Sports Performance for the women's basketball team. She's a UConn alum and got her start there as an S&C coach.

@drgnslayr KU has acknowledged money changed hands during the recruitment of players mentioned in the report so they aren't fighting very hard on those allegations, probably just that KU wasn't aware of the payments. The biggest thing KU is fighting and why they wanted this case to go to the IARP is because of Adidas being ruled a booster. KU is hoping the IARP rules that because the NCAA has never accused a school of this before (along with Louisville and NC State) despite shoe companies being corporate sponsors of programs for decades now, that the NCAA can't begin to selectively apply that rule and overturn those infractions which would have the most serious consequences.

At the end of the day, KU is going to receive some punishment because of Silvio, Preston, and Diallo. Forfeiture of games those guys played in, scholarship reductions, and probation all seem very likely. KU is trying to avoid a postseason ban which is much more likely to happen with the IARP ruling on the case than the NCAA.

The NC State case is the one to watch because that case went to the IARP before ours so will likely be ruled upon before ours. The reason to pay attention to that case is because NC State has a lot of similar accusations against them including Adidas being considered a booster. However the IARP rules on that charge against NCSU is also likely how they'll rule it for KU as well.

@jayballer67 said in Spring Game:

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Spring Game:

@jayballer67 said in Spring Game:

just curious of course didn't finish the 4th quarter but just curious. I thought Neal was on campus early , if he was why didn't we see any time? Same with Easters and Hawley did they see a snap ? - -if not WHY Not ?

I'm going to go with an obvious answer here, I'm guessing Kendrick and Daniels looked significantly better during the spring than Easters and Hawley did.

then I will go with the obvious reply to your obvious answer - -if that's the case then we FOR SURE are screwed again. Whether they are or showed that much better during spring, you still need to give these other guys reps - -only way they will get better- -It's the Spring game for GOD'S sake - the way those two handled the game last night THAT'S not very encourgaging sign

Yes, the offense will being trash again next year unless the UNT kid is a step up from what's currently here. If Easters and Hawley don't grasp the playbook yet, they wouldn't get equal reps in practice yet and would benefit a lot more standing next to the QB coach learning what to look for during a play.

Don't forget, this is another brand new offense this year and Kendrick and Daniels have to get reps to learn the system as well in a live game situation. As we saw last night, Miles Kendrick is probably going to be the starting QB unless Bean comes in and wins the job this fall which is much more likely if Leipold replaces DeBorg.

@bmensch1 said in Bye Muscadin:

3rd time is hopefully the charm for the lobos picking up KU's sloppy seconds. I really hope gethro plays well. I don't know why, but I just like that kid.

This is the 4th former KU player under Self that has found his way to Albuquerque. Two of those players didn't leave KU voluntarily. JR Giddens and Carlton Bragg both got kicked off the team and end up playing professionally. Gethro Muscadin's situation is more similar to Merv Lindsay who only played a year at UNM before transferring again to an NAIA school.

I do hope Gethro does well, but he's not the third former Self era Jayhawk to end up at UNM and he wouldn't be the first successful one either since the previous two who ended their careers there ended up playing professionally with Giddens being a 1st round pick.

@mayjay said in IARP update:

@Texas-Hawk-10 The decisions are not directly appealable, but organizations are required to follow their own rules. Many federal courts have accepted jurisdiction to review a process ab initio where egregious violations of fundamental concepts of fairness have occurred. I have already extensively analyzed how I think the NCAA's charged stemmed from violations of their own evidentiary and investigative rules. Kansas has not waived its right to sue in federal court, only the right to have the IARP decision reviewed on the merits.

There's only one part of this case KU has any legal ground to file a lawsuit for and that's corporate sponsors being classified as boosters. Even that's not a slam dunk case because of how NCAA bylaws are currently written. That's also something that would come down to letter vs. intent of the rule and probably result in the NCAA having to create a new section of their bylaws specifically regarding corporate sponsors like Adidas, Nike, and Under Armour that provides money to a school. By current letter of the bylaws, Adidas is a booster and there's not any kind of real argument that can be made to dispute that other than that's not the intent of those bylaws.

@drgnslayr said in IARP update:

@Texas-Hawk-10

I didn't mention the financial aspect.

As someone who has extensively used our judicial system including working sometimes in the judicial system I can guarantee to you that just because some of these members have the background they have, they do not have more access to information over the NCAA. Garnering information legally is the only way their efforts can hold water in a legal setting and also not break laws.

Maybe Kansas feels positive of what happened in the federal investigation and thinking go this route will support those findings. That doesn't mean the judgment goes our way. This group can find exactly the same info found in the federal case and come up with a completely different verdict.

I'm trying to imagine how KU's legal team thought it was the route to go where there is no opportunity to appeal the results. Maybe you have an idea why KU would desire to go for this. Sounds like suicide to me unless they know something we don't know. I'm betting they feel they still have a great case for federal court. The very basis of our legal system is to offer appeals. It's anti-American to NOT have an appeal process.

This is not a court room and does not follow federal law. The IARP is judging this case based on NCAA bylaws. KU wanted to go this route because the IARP is not the NCAA is not specifically out for blood against KU like the NCAA is. KU at minimum will probably end up vacating the 2018 Final Four and every game Silvio DeSousa played that season because money changed hands in his recruitment making DeSousa ineligible. That much is indisputable. I also wouldn't be surprised if KU vacates the games Cheick Diallo played in as well since he's one of the other players in the report. The hope on KU's part is to avoid a postseason ban and a show cause against Kurtis Townsend, both of which would almost certainly be part of the NCAA's punishments against KU.

You claim to be very familiar with the US legal system and that not being able to appeal a ruling is not American, but yet you fail to realize what legal processes the IARP are analogous to and that's a combination of an arbitration hearing and the Supreme Court. Both KU and the NCAA had to agree to recommend this case to the IARP similar to how cases end up in arbitration. Like the Supreme Court, the IARP gets to decide if they hear any case that gets recommended to them.

Neither one of those types of rulings in the US are appealable so does that mean going to arbitration is not American? Does that mean that the Supreme Court deciding to take a case and ruling on it is not American since Supreme Court rulings are not appealable either?

@jayballer67 said in Spring Game:

just curious of course didn't finish the 4th quarter but just curious. I thought Neal was on campus early , if he was why didn't we see any time? Same with Easters and Hawley did they see a snap ? - -if not WHY Not ?

I'm going to go with an obvious answer here, I'm guessing Kendrick and Daniels looked significantly better during the spring than Easters and Hawley did.

@FarmerJayhawk said in Spring Game:

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Spring Game:

@FarmerJayhawk said in Spring Game:

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Spring Game:

@FarmerJayhawk I don't like seeing that period because stuff like that means bad habits are creeping in and this team can't afford that. Bad habits like that become mental blocks for players too frequently.

I don’t like it either but I’m not going to read much into it.

There's just too many plays with bad fundamentals from the offense tonight that I've seen that doesn't make me believe the offense is going to be much better than last year.

Yeah, they won’t be very good. Still way too much youth.

WOW WE COMPLETED A PASS TO A WR!!

I don't mind the offense being bad because of inexperience because that's not really controllable. I just don't like how the offense has looked pretty bad tonight because of fundamental stuff looking like shit.

@FarmerJayhawk said in Spring Game:

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Spring Game:

@FarmerJayhawk I don't like seeing that period because stuff like that means bad habits are creeping in and this team can't afford that. Bad habits like that become mental blocks for players too frequently.

I don’t like it either but I’m not going to read much into it.

There's just too many plays with bad fundamentals from the offense tonight that I've seen that doesn't make me believe the offense is going to be much better than last year.

@FarmerJayhawk I don't like seeing that period because stuff like that means bad habits are creeping in and this team can't afford that. Bad habits like that become mental blocks for players too frequently.

@FarmerJayhawk said in Spring Game:

So glad Leipold is a run first coach

Won't matter if the backs can't hold onto the football.

I fully expected the defense to look better than the offense simply because of year 3 in a system vs. year 1 for the offense. The issues with the offense aren't schematic, it's basic fundamentals like holding onto the damn football, the QB making the right reads, going through progressions. None of those things have anything to do with DeBorg's offense being new, these are basic things players begin learning in middle school that they still struggle with.

Holy crap the offense looks like shit. So many interceptions and fumbles in the first quarter alone.

@Marco I would recommend you go to the IARP's website and read about how this process works. Both sides will have significant financial investments into the process.

If you want to know who's actually conducting the investigation, look up Berryman Prime LLC, AlixPartners, and Kroll. One of those three forms is who's conducting the investigation so if you think the NCAA can financially influence any of those three companies, good luck with thinking the NCAA has those kind of resources.

@drgnslayr Do your homework on what the IARP is and how they operate and who recommended this case go that route first (hint, not the NCAA) instead of spouting off a bunch of uninformed opinions and misinformation.

The IAPR is not paid for by the NCAA and the NCAA cannot force a program into having their fate decided by the IARP. If the NCAA did attempt to force a school into having their case heard by the IARP and a school refused, that's called coercion and the NCAA isn't stupid enough to do that knowing they would be sued for that for hundreds of millions of dollars in damages.

If the NCAA did financially back the IARP, why the hell would any school agree to have their case go that route knowing the decision can't be appealed?

KU is the party that initiated the request that this case go to the IARP, not the other way around. Covid based locked downs and restrictions are what have slowed this process down. The IARP also has much more capabilities to get access to information the NCAA doesn't have the ability to do because of the backgrounds of committee members such as former FBI agents, former SEC (not the conference) employees, former NSA agents, and similar backgrounds so these people have a much greater ability to dig into a case and get facts the NCAA never could.

@jayballer67 said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:

OMG - - this Coaching search has turned into one huge Cluster F - - - . KU fans wondering why KU Goff and others are dragging their feet making the announcement - - - Army fans going nuts as to WHY Monken would want to come to this crap show. - Some Army fans saying they don't blame Monken cause he as always wanted to Coach at a P-5 School , Some saying his legacy is being destroyed by coming to KU - it's just insane

Take a deep breath. Goff is doing his due diligence on this which if Jeff Long had done a few years back, wouldn't have KU in this situation today. It also doesn't really make much PR sense to announce the day before the spring game. I wouldn't be surprised at all if the official announcement doesn't happen until Saturday during or immediately after the spring game.

Not on the men's side, but Kim Mulkey has pretty shockingly left Baylor to accept the women's job at LSU.

@drgnslayr The problem with your hindsight is KU's guards couldn't shoot for shit and gave no reason for defenses to not focus on taking away KU's driving because there was no reason to respect KU's outside shooting this year. Dave was KU's best offensive option for much of the season because KU couldn't shoot for shit.

Cam Martin and Josef Yesufu are good shooters that should force defenses to have to extend out. Even more than athleticism, KU needed people who could shoot so going inside to Dave doesn't automatically turn into double or triple teams like it did last season.

I don't really know where else to put this, but former Kentucky guard Terrence Clarke was killed in a car crash in Los Angeles today. Clarke had declared for the draft and signed with an agent. Clarke was expected to be a mid 2nd rounder this year.

@mayjay said in 2021 Transfer Talk/List:

@Texas-Hawk-10 Immediately playing after transferring might actually hurt the NBA "minor league" as players use the opportunity to go someplace where they can play more without the pressure of staying on a competitive roster for not that much money. That could help mid-major schools get disenchanted top 100's.

I don't see the new rule hurting the G-League at all and this probably actually helps them attract more kids in reality by selling kids on not dealing with the politics of recruiting.