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@Kcmatt7 I agree with ya buddy I think it could easily be duplicated by these teams Duke for sure and the other 2 would have a good shot. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@KUSTEVE I understand, and I now stumpy has been knocking the socks off on his recruits I mean Ayton and others I'm not sure why the big 12 doesn't do better in recruitment I mean ya Texas got Bama, Okla got Young but over all were sucking hind boob for lack of a better word I want to say but won't - -I'm sure in the end run your right it will be the Big 10 , so we will be ok, BUT K-Straight their screwed maybe the Mo Valley lmao - but Everyone has their own opinions and that's what this thread just as others were suppose to be about opinions and that's all they are - I'm sure I'm gonna get blasted from some people who think I'm just some suck ass ACC lover - -umm No I just feel they are the better conference just my opinion was said not suppose to be any wrong answer and I'm not going to get sucked into war of words that has happened before and got ugly have grown from that, but I for sure agree with ya man, one thing for sure feels good to be Crimson & Blue - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@KUSTEVE Agree on Louisville for sure, a lot of talent gone out West also. Other then KU where does the Big 12 have teams ranked in the top 20 - -30 in recruiting on a consistent basis? - -We don't I don't think OU ranks in the top 20, I don't think Iowa State, Baylor, West Virginia do consistency have recruiting classes, The ACC is just better period, the Pac 12 not so sure - I know Dough boy is always or seems to do really well, especially the last two -- - three years, I agree why we didn't bring Louisville in the league is a head scratcher for sure. - - ROC CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@DoubleDD Yet if the Big 12 is tougher then the ACC in Basketball like your trying to imply then WE should have a streak of National titles in Basketball, words or things you are trying to imply about the ACC, same goes for the big 12.

Team for team simply the ACC is a better Conference, you wanna match the middle, the lower division teams of each Conference against one another? - -I'll take Louisville, Syracuse, Virginia, Miami hell even to a lesser degree North Carolina State over K-State, Texas Tech, TCU any day, and yes I am stating these teams from the ACC as middle tier because that's where they are frequently in a league such as the ACC, it's a war there every night out - -doesn't mean they suck, just means their league is a battle and again if we were to match those teams against the one's I mentioned from the Big 12, ya I'm taking the ACC more often then not ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@DoubleDD Hmmmm, let's see, In this thread wasn't you asking for others opinions? - - Didn't you say they WERE no wrong answers? - -just other views? - Yet when others give a view different then you must be wanting to hear, you go on a attack mode, so I'm guessing unless it's what your wanting to hear then the others don't know what were talking about. - -these are just opinions, you question Kc Matt - -you question myself, on our opinions just cause they differ then what you feel - -believe. - -You say the perception that comes across that the ACC is surpose to be so great then why shouldn't they have more then one team in the final four every year. Hate to tell you ARE better then the Big 12 in Basketball period

You know or at least should know that when it comes to the tourney, it is a crap shoot, a lot of things go into the tourney, Things such as, What time comes into the tourney on a roll - -gets hot at the right time coming into the tourney, In the tournament it's ONE game, you happen to have a of night and your done, if you lose because of a off night does that mean the other team is better then you? - - -umm no, it was an OFF NIGHT. - -a turnover here, a turnover there, a missed call here, a missed call there, a off night shooting, it happens. Does that mean they are better? absolutely not, it's a one game series, you have to go on a team body of work for a season - - not one game.

So the same thing can be said for ACC teams. How many teams do you think the ACC should have in the final four every year 2? - -3? how many? when your talking about the strength of a conference you look at their body of work over a season - - not one game. - -Let me ask you this - in how many of our ( KU ) early exits from the NCAA tourney, in how many of those games do you feel the other team was better then KU ? - In most of those cases the scenario happen that I talked about earlier in my response, you know that -I know that - -we all know that or we should, if you know anything at all. - In those losses if KU were to play the best 3-5 chances are better then not we would win that series, or if it was the best out of seven, we would win that series but it's not - -it's ONE game.

The same thing can be said for the ACC, their losses was one game - -not a series, chances are in their losses they too if it was a series most of the time these schools would win those series, Again a lot depends o so many factors, who gets hot at the right time, who has an off night, If a player gets hurt, bad calls,. When your comparing conferences you have to go over a teams body of work for the season - -not a one game tourney. Their is only one winner out of 68 in the NCAA tourney - -one winner, the other 67 go home losers, finish their season with a L. - -does that mean they aren't any good? - - does that mean their conference is over rated? Does that mean that the ACC isn't a better conference the Big 12? -No, absolutely not. - - It means in their one game series they got beat.

Your not going to see multiple teams from the same conference make the final four very often, that is just not going to happen, to many factors, doesn't mean one Conference isn't better, to get multiple teams in the tourney to the final four is an exception , not the rule by far.

Now as far as the SEC I think and again just my opinion your more right, cause the SEC isn't as strong , by far. Yes Kentucky would have a harder time accomplishing, it, but would they have a chance or could they? - -Yes they would have a chance - -a chance, that's all it is - - a chance, but you ask could they? - -and the answer is yes, they could, anybody could - just that some teams chances are a lot better then others. - -Again as you said there is no wrong answers - -just opinions, and that all Matt's is - -mine is - just like you everybody has a right to an opinion, rather you think they are right or wrong, there just opinions, I know you'll think I'm getting all twisted up, getting heated, no not at all, again I'm just giving an opinion on what you fronting Matt and myself for not agreeing or thinking the way you are on this -we don't agree it's ok, right? - That's whats great about this site people are allowed to voice their opinion on things rather it's right or wrong, like you say their is no wrong answer just different opinions. - -anyways just my thoughts, hope you have a good upcoming day guy. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

And there you have it boys & girls. - -Bagley re classifies & announces DUKE. - -What a surprise. lmao. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@BShark I read that it's KU - -Iowa State - -Illnois State - - -& Pitt, also read where we got the only CB right now so we are at 100%. gonna be interesting. What do we (KU ) do? - -247 lists him now at # 83.

I mean this is probably more of a sure bet but how does that effect Barrett - -Williamson? - -I mean the obvious is that it doesn't - but we are not sure of the amount of Scholi's. - - Surely be better with Barrett or Williamson - -but in reality I don't think Williamson will end here - -Barrett - -I don't know. - -what ya think? - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@BShark Nice, and a lefty? - -sweet - -of course I'm kind of bias as I'm a lefty. - -looks like decent hops, nice jumper, so you say he is down to 4 schools? - -which are the 4 other then Ku & Iowa State I guess, the other 2 are bud? - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@BShark Lmao, I hear ya buddy, I don't pay for these sites I just have to rely on friends to relay info to me as well as others I could really get myself in a hole a little here a little there for pay sites you know lol. When you living on a very limited income - just my disability more inportaNT things to use my money for such as Gas Electric Water lol, Groceries ya know? - -This is why I appreciate you and others for supplying recruiting info on these things you all are a savior on these things. - -But couldn't agree with ya more Thanks. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

just killin time and browsing different things and lo and behold I glance at the Major league standings and see Los Angles Dodgers - -83-34> - - Let me say that again 83-34 almost 50 games over .500 - - -ARE YOU SERIOUS? - -Is Don Mattingly still the Manager? - -83-34 - - -JUMPIN GEE HOSSA FATS. - -I mean the Rockies are 65-52 pretty respectable and they 18 games out lmao - -13 games over 500 and your in 2nd place in your division and 18 games back, MERCY that's just in feasible to me, just nuts - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Wish I cou ld read it, Saw it - but it's insider oh well - -w know how well we did lol. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Getting a feeling like others I think Robinson left port and moving on. Actually thought he would be quick to commit, because as far as I knew we were pretty much his only option for this year to land with a College after what I had heard & read. Now maybe not so much - -makes me believe he is going to just like has been said sit and Train and then Declare. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@JayHawkFanToo I am glad you have your opinion, just like I have mine. I'm not here to get in debate - it's just how you feel and how I feel . - Like the guy says there is no wrong answer here , he ask what we thought, so you have given yours - -I have given mine our bottom teams really drop, until this last year Texas Tech TCU K-State haven't been tearing people up . - -It is just an opinion that's all it is , you have points I have points it's all good. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@BShark No this was a couple of days ago & never claimed to be a spelling whiz. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY DONG BABY

Mitchell may commit to KU - -he might not, but one thing for sure Robinson IS NOT going to land at LSU.

Article from the Tiger Blitz LSU has back away from the recruitment of 5 star Robinson, stated that the LSU roster is already set for next year, nothing available, they would have to make room for him - - which means they would have to give someone the boot & just like here that wouldn't happen.

They have add these players for next year Tremont Waters - - -Big Man , Mayon Kiir - -Wings , Brandon Rachal & Galen Alexander - - -also added Juco Daryl Edwards- - - -North Texas Transfer Jeremy Combs - - And South Utah Transfer Randy Omwvasa as well as Oregon Big Man expected also to join the team but will have to sit.

He May opt for international they say but chances are slim, but no he is not going to LSU. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@JayHawkFanToo With Duke that only solidifies how strong their conference is I'l match Lousiville, Virginia, and others from there against West Virginia, Baylor and Iowa State All day long, The years Duke has been lower - was with just cause such a strong conference from top to bottom and injuries combined -the league is a nightmare Syracuse and others. The main reason the Big 12 gets the rep of such a strong conference is a lot on the Non- Con -teams rack up gawdy records, but to say that the ACC. - is weaker from top to bottom - don't see that at all. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@BeddieKU23 Kind of like you watch Duke will now be out of the picture for Garland since they got Trae Jones and Duval. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@kjayhawks The points you bring up are good points & solid points BUT the original question that was asked was Could Duke,Kentucky, Or N Carolina do what KU has done , win 13 straight Conference Championships IF they were in the Big 12? Again You would have to believe yes they could. - -Overall the ACC is a stronger conference then the Big 12 simple fact, their upper crust of at least 5-6 teams are not any worse then West Virginia, Iowa State, Baylor - -they at their worst match our upper division on an even keel, You have to say that being logical that Duke , Kentucky, & North Carolina are at least as good as KU with out giving those 3 schools much credit. Again the question was could they do what KU has done in the Big 12? - The answer is yes they Could, saying no would be implying that for sure the ACC is not as strong as the Big 12 , and that's simply is not true. Actually they are a stronger conference plain and simply it is an absolute dog fight every night in their league.

So to say that Duke and North Carolina couldn't match the feat KU has accomplished if they were a member of the Big 12 just doesn't hold up. Now Kentucky and the SEC, ya a better argument could be made, as I believe the Big 12 is a stronger conference for sure, although again Kentucky year in and year out has some of the best talent in America at their disposal, they just more or less get to pick whoever they want year in year out. - - I still feel that Kentucky were talking Kentucky not any of the other schools, would stand a very good chance of matching what our Jayhawks have done if they played in the Big 12, I just don't feel over the course of an entire conference season that our other teams would have the power to match Kentucky. Kentucky would be at the worst case Scenario have 2-3 losses tops in our league, just as KU - -just have to think that all 3 of these Schools would have a very legit chance to duplicate what we have done if they played in our conference.

Now could KU pull off 13 straight championships if we played in the SEC? - -or the ACC? - - I would give us a lot better chance of accomplishing that in the SEC then the ACC. The SEC again isn't nearly as strong as the ACC - pretty much the same scenario a KU in the big 12 you have KU & then 2-3 pretty decent teams - - in the SEC you have Kentucky but other then them on a year in year out basis who do you have? - -You might have a team that has a flash in the pan year be a little stronger but consistency wise? - -na not so much. So I feel KU chances there would be greater to win the 13 straight although with Kentucky being in the league? - -KU 13 yrs? wouldn't bank on it. - - Now if KU were to play in the ACC? - - no way would we win the ACC 13 yrs in a row, the competition is just to stiff the overall competition in the ACC is just stiffer then in the Big 12, that's just me -again not saying your wrong you have very good points but I just feel to say that these teams couldn't duplicate what we have done if they played in the Big 12? - -ya they could. - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@BShark maybe a little surprise to me anyways. - -I figured Duke, that's what seem to be the talk, then this about UCLA but doesn't really matter - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@RockkChalkk Not sure if they do or not, BUT looks like maybe UCLA might have an edge with them not Starting Class till the end of Sept, something that might make a difference for Bagley. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Just went back to check on Bagley for sure, the thing UCLA can offer that the other schools cant' - - quarters. - - -Bagley is still taking classes to finish degree - - - Duke and USC start at the end of august - - UCLA starts School in the end of September - -so he could work on finishing up classed for yet another month. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Well not that this comes as any surprise but just read where Bagley is going to announce where is committing to tomorrow night at 10:00 p.m. on ESPN. - -Not that surprises us at all as we knew he wasn't landing here, and since he didn't make a visit to KU or Kentucky.

I had thought he was a Duke commit, but a good point was brought up, as he will also discuss his re-classification - - -Duke starts school at the end of August I believe while UCLA doesn't starts a little later, it says they offer something the other schools don't - - quarters - which would help him get what he needs for re- classification - -so anyways there you go, NO SUPRISE - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@DoubleDD I would have to say YES all three could do the same as KU IF they played in the Big 12. That's not to say that any of those 3 coaches are better then Coach, but I think you kind of Answered the question with what you posted a little earlier in the Thread, they get the best of the Best.

You say and true Coach self seems to get the most out of lesser, which I or may be true - -But you put duke, UNC Or Kentucky in the Big 12 with the talent they have, and you just have to believe like you say the talent they get year after year and put them in this league I have to believe they have a pretty good chance of doing the same.

I think part of that speaks to the strength of the league it'self, we haven't exactly burned paths in the NCAA tourney, we always have a pretty good showing in non con but other then KU in the NCAA tourney we haven't exactly tore it up., where as the other 3 you spoke of have has decent success, more so then other members from the Big 12. I think the dominance of KU during this span - -you have to say that these 3 schools let's say have at least the same amount of talent for lack of better term & not saying their Coaches are any better but I would have to say they are Right with Coach Self in coaching ability anyways and that isn't taking anything away from Coach

Maybe a better question would be, If WE ( KU ) we in the ACC or SEC could we win 13 Conference Championships in a row. In the ACC I think I would have o say no, Maybe a Bette Chance in the SEC- but yet with Kentucky in the SEC that would be a pretty good challenge, that's just my take could be wrong but that's just me.

OK, now plain and simple. YES OR NO Robinson lands at KU and how soon if so. - -Me I say yes & within the next Week. - -Let's hear ya. = - - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@DoubleDD LOL - - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BAB

@approxinfinity ya heard that awhile back when we started pulling oredicts for Zion - -Coach Self been getting Lit up pretty good for doing so from opposing Teams - in particular Kentucky, talking about how smudgy it was You know those guys lol - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@BShark ahh, got ya - -what is it coach says doesn't really matter who starts the game it's who is in at the end of a game come crunch time that matters - Start is just a word. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@BShark I have to disagree with ya there, if Emmit came here he wouldn't be sittin the Bench or at least not for any long stretch by any means - to much of a talent sorry.- - -he may not start but he sure not going to riding the bench for very long periods. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Well I'm seeing where some other schools picking up some CB'S for my boy Emmit Williams - - -Damm -Hell even Oklahoma state has got some, Florida pick up some so now according to that we are bringing up the rear again.

I'm just curious, I wonder if the strong possibility of us maybe landing Robinson plus having Lawson on the horizon is steering him away? - -I know Williams and Robinson don't play the same position but still just curious. - - - And whz up with Oklahoma State where the hell they coming from on this? - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Read some about Robinson's eligibility. - - Hmmmm, really don't know.

Eligibility clock begins when - - -He enrolls as full time student at any College. - - Full time is defined as being enrolled minimum of 12 hours or more - - -Which Robinson was not.

as for Trigger clause: - -Student is a Student who transfers from a college institution after having triggered any of the conditions.

Which says Enrolled full time during any term and attended classes or D! - - you are enrolled full time, and are on campus on opening day of classes which the article says - - Does not apply to Robinson.

Or report for a regular squad practice - -Because season has not started. - - -again according to the article - - this appears doesn't apply either.

Practiced or competed while enrolled less then full time - - This one is one that's in clear, as the NCAA now allows a few practices in the summer.

The big one that is sticking is: - - -Received financial aid while attending Summer School. - - this is likely given since he was on Campus enrolled & living in a WKU dorm

This I didn't know. - - It's up to KU to request the waiver - - Robinson can't request the waiver himself. After the waiver request then the conference NCAA take over.

The report from LSU is that it seemed highly unlikely that he would be granted eligibility to play this year, so they backed off, The big concern is that if he has to sit out - -then he just options to go over sea's play a year on the AAU circuit, then enters the NBA draft - -OR sits the year and then declares for the NBA the following year

Just don't know what to think. - -Would be a Sweet pick up - BUT do we really want to go through this again fighting the NCAA over gaining eligibility and maybe getting a half a year? - or maybe nothing? - -- -OR maybe, maybe we get the eligibility -I'm in if we can get it worked out, we shall see. - - A lot of people saying we need to pass BUT like it was also brought up, ok we offer the Scholi - -he comes and sits out and then Declares for the NBA. - - What have we lost? - -Nothing. - -If we didn't offer, the Scoli is just sitting there anyways not being used and probably wouldn't get used & we get the Scholi back next year anyways if he did Declare - -So we have lost nothing - -we are not losing the Scholi as we would get it back for next year. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@BShark Very well put. - -I for sure love Mitch's attitude, he gives 100 plus % anytime he is in, he will always give us that 100 % and think he needs our love, he can still be that spot guy, give some breaks to our players and you know it won't be from lack of effort. Mitch is a player that might have done better maybe on a little smaller stage I think he go down as a true Crimson & Blue kid and don't be surprised in his Jr year or wherever he is going to have a game that you might say Good for him. He is a kid where you never have to question his heart. - - It's just that If Robinson does land here, it's a case of numbers - -and athleticism there is going to be a game this year where we need him for some extended minutes. I think things work out fine -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@BShark True, BUT he has been in NC long enough that their programs ought to of caught wind and got involved. - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Gotta love it, but makes me curious. With Devon being from Charlotte NC - - why wasn't Duke - - North Carolina Or NC State a far as that goes kind of curious how these schools wasn't involved a lot more. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@Statmachine ya I saw that - -these guys, man - -another yesterday was talking about what criteria he would have to meet - -sexually assaulting a woman on the KU campus - -you talk about total lack of class. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@BShark Ya I pulled it up off the LSY scout forum, they had an article, talking like very slim he going to be able to play this yr, that's a big part why they backed off recruiting him - -Looks a lot like he will either have to sit - - -JR College - - -Play over sea's -or just sit completely out and then declare next year - -we will see what happens. - -I would think if he wanted to opt for anything but play College Ball he wouldn't even be making any Visit any wasting people's time though I dunno. - -- ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@HighEliteMajor Where did you see that LSU was no longer interested - would love to read about it. - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@Crimsonorblue22 Where did you read or hear LSU was no longer interested? - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@Crimsonorblue22 Ya that's a very high possibility, didn't someone else here say that no one had any scholi's available? - -If things play out right & Mitchell gets some other things together, then we just had a 5 star stud handed to us on a platter would be sweet. - --ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@HighEliteMajor Now comes the question what happened? - -Why all of a sudden the did interest? - -so now Coach just needs to make perfectly clear how thing swill be if Robinson ends up here.

If they can work it out would love to have him eligible to play this season - -don't think that is going to happen, if not sucks BUT just mean the following our front court gonna be tight. - -Maybe he will somehow get it worked out for this season - if that happens then DAMM. - Him & Doke together - - -OH YA - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@blackmild33 hmmmmm, wonder why they not interested now? - - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@KUSTEVE A Mulligan it shall be lol - -and you are 100% right We know it's Coaches way OR you butt gonna be sore from sittin, I sincerely hopes he does land here, just drop the other and we be good, he can be a big help. - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@Crimsonorblue22 It's enough where could be a distraction - - we don't need that route again this year, - -If he can get his head on straight, & get cleared then ya. - -Someone that just packs up and leaves campus doesn't say anything and notifies via text isn't what you call the best thing, that and his relationship with the other team mates while he WAS there, hearing he had some issues there , just having some attitude problems - -that's a cancer we can do without. - -Is he talented? - -Hell yes he is talented, just got to get it together - -team and not me, me, me - I'm sure coach if he can get cleared can get that cleared up. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Lot of baggage. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@JayHawkFanToo I just don't like the odds of Mitchell being eligible this year, which leads to the possibility of what's being brought up - -train with the team during his sit yr and then time rolls around and he declares for the NBA. - -pretty shaky situation, but like some suggest maybe Coach feels pretty good about his chances of being eligible this yr. - -If he IS eligible, then for sure he is definetly a guy we need. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@justanotherfan Williams plays bigger then 6'8. I have no worries about his transition to College ball, I feel he will hold his own.

A far as Zion actually you might be more spot on with him then Emmit. - - About all I've seen from Zion is dunks - - powerful dunks, what is his outside shot like? - -Not trying to damper just a question. - -Does he have any kind of outside jumper? - -I seriously don't know.

Emmit has shown at least some kind of outside game, maybe not a lot, but at least something to work off of, and develop more - -Zion -- - just not sure, let me know. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@BShark Yet another prediction for us this morning for Devon coming. - I think I'm gettin my boy lol - -well I mean our boy you know But been on him from the get go. - Now I need to jump Quentin get the pair, hell ya - -I'm stoked this morning . Need to calm my old writhered up body down gets my blood pressure to high lol. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@BeddieKU23 Again I agree with you and what's being said this guy is an athletic freak, he is coming, he is coming, he is coming. I can feel it, I can taste it, my KU skin and gut is sayin it. Welcome EMMIT Williams. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@BeddieKU23 I agree, I just have this gut feeling on Emmit -feels good, and your right he has that nastiness - and that is one of the BIG things that I like, like I mentioned he brings that edge to the court, the guy has a really get after it attitude on the floor, not soft by any means - -love it. - -I think he ends up here. - -My BOLD prediction lol, guess it's a day for that huh? - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Hey, just letting ya know ESPN has a nice little article about JO, JO - -basically talking about his transformation from Cameroon, talking about his high and lo's while at KU - -pretty cool -- Video/interview. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Check it out guys - -nice little article on 247, with the headline -Is KU trending for the # 1 player, talking about Zion - -check it out talks about Slater. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY