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@Crimsonorblue22 Let's see isn't the exhibition this sunday? could be wrong. - -I don't think we can ever replace Wait, but I hear what your saying, one's like her are hard to come by, what a player - -BUT we still have a really good squad " THE PAIN TRAIN " plus several others some good returning plus I think we got a couple of really good transfers didn't we? - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@Crimsonorblue22 Hey, thanks for the update, I really appreciate that, I'm getting anxious, I hope the ladies keep things rolling this yr, They are building a sweet program. Have you happen to hear any more about the add on the facility - I knew they were going to make it bigger, or that's what I had heard, another couple of thousand seating would be nice - -you heard anymore? - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@HawkChamp Well I just now read another article from Mat Tait from the L J W. - -It is becoming kind of clear, this is a kid that likes attention, a kid that has no idea what he wants , and a very confused kid. - Just like I mentioned Matt headline was is there a new contender for Robinson and yes it was WKU.

Even though it was some guy off twitter goes by @ Barstool Western, it is a twitter account that has 6,000 followers a person who tracks KKU sports closely, and says sources confirmed that Robinson is SERIOUSLY considering return to WKU.

Put that on top of the fact that Robinson is now Re-tweeting a lot of WKU tweets, they taking a poll if they would take him back if he wanted to return, he has re- tweeted a lot on WKU

Even though with me being as biased - -pro Jayhawk, and would love the guy - -well maybe not as much now - -kind of seems like a head case at least to some extent , the most logic would seem ya, probably would be best to go back to WKU. he would play immediately, not have to worry about any waver -not have to worry about sitting out, get to play this year, play for the year then declare , I just think he is finding out chances are he is going to have to sit, and won't be cleared, so his best shot is to go back. - I think Bill probably said - -look if we invest our time, the School's money to get you or try and get you cleared - -you gonna have to give me a 2 year commitment and that's NOT what he wanted to hear, so he is going to other options, and about the only other option is to go back. - My thinking now is - -just go back to WKU - - & KU let's move on Coach precede like you had planned be for this debacle . - -Tired of playing the what if game with this kid. - We was fine before he came up - -we'll be fine after - - -Time to lift the Anchor and set sail. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@HawkChamp One thing for sure, could you imagine if it ends up Robinson does come and sticks - - Coach would have so many different line ups he could run out - -the 4 guard and what a 4 they are all can shoot the hell out of the ball - -OR you could go hi-low with Robinson & Doke an I'm sure a lot of other combo's mix and match - -would be very interesting trying to watch teams match up with us. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@BShark I just wish Robinson would decide. - I seen some chitter-chatter about him considering about going back to WKU. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@HighEliteMajor ya good question but I think you got it right. - -Doke would I believe for sure be the low post, as I think Robinson MIGHT have a little more outside game, also a little more fluid - -mobile, it for sure would cause some matchup head aches for some opponents.

He also list still the 4 guard with either Doke OR Robinson - -4 guards surrounding them. - Question there is which Big starting - -Doke? - -or Robinson - another dilemma lol - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Read an article from Matt Tait off LJW, Matt made the statement that like we have known coming down to KU and New Orleans ( which Kentucky fans at having an absolute field day with this but Matt made the statement that he heard from a couple of places that it was looking more like a waiver might be gotten.

A poster ask him reliable sources? - To which he responded None that he could report and no one knows for sure one way or another but they were valid sources that pay close attention to these types of situations. - -Maybe he does get his wavier of eligibility for this season - - , IF he were to get his clearance for this year Matt post 3 different Scenario's with starting line ups - -this one seem to be the most logical/popular: - - Graham , Newman , Vick - -with SVI & Garret to relieve & then in the Front Court -- Robinson & Azubuike - with Preston & Lightfoot to Back up. - -That would be a pretty impressive line up 2 seven footers - -with those 3 in Backcourt - -would be sweet. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@wissox Anything possible I reckon lol - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@BeddieKU23 Ya, I'm not getting a real good feeling about Dedric, being suspended once already,- -the whole incident at Penny's gym with Joe Jackson - -the whole Lawson family was in on that - -well Chandler wasn't.., a poster had a really good link to the whole incident at the gym at Penny's and even though they said there ended up no guns involved there was talks about guns, it's ,a radio talk show out of Memphis that is about 14 minutes long really good link. - then we have this and like you say even though the manager says it was all good and he is welcome back - he didn't come out and say he did pay.

I think like was pointed out this was a case where he was there with his girlfriend and his ex girlfriend that worked there just looking to cause problems - but also like a poster said guilty or not the damage to his name has been done, now getting quite the label for trouble., not a good situation. - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@Statmachine If Kentucky ends up landing RJ Barrett, Williamson will not end up at Kentucky. - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Hey, how about that , ya I know it's 247 BUT - - -I just seen where we picked up 2 more predicts for Zion Williamson to commit here, and those two actually put out in Front for Zion 38% to Kentucky's 31%, which I guess in a way kind of makes sense now with every thing going on

With Devon being such a heavy lean towards KU and people trying to make that Connection with Devon & Zion well Zion mentioning about how good Devon is and the possibility of playing with him - -and then the whole deal with Adias , being Williamson shoe possibly them trying to get Williamson towards KU with KU as been said their biggest Blue Blood School for them, and Now With Barret re-classifying and showing a lean towards Kentucky, add those together and this is where we are at possibly.

Could you imagine a recruiting class of Dotson , Grimes , Williamson , to go along with IF Robinson did land here this yr, sit then be eligible the next year - -so you would have Grimes , Dotson , Williamson , Robinson , and the Lawsons - - all I would be able to say is - -JUMPIN GEE HOOSIE TOADS. I know a lot has to play out yet for this to happen but if it indeed turns out this way - -look out, - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@JayHawkFanToo WHERE IS smoke there is FIRE. - - OK I'm done - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@HighEliteMajor IT was a HUGE MISTAKE II can't agree more, I did really good I went off and flipped sh- - about this BUT I'm doing my best to hold my tongue what a cancer - -Dedric Lawson is a cancer ok well never mind I'm getting wound up again. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@BShark And is there something wrong with all in on those two? - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@BShark And the stock market won't sit all time highs either lmao. ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@Kcmatt7 Mitchell himself can't request the waiver, it has to come from the school, I read that the other day. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Well at least goes to show, once again Matt Scott doesn't have a clue to what he is talking about.

Read from the New Orleans- Times-Picayune this morning, that Robinson yes indeed did visit yesterday, and is reported to chose between KU & New Orleans, and the decision will be soon, although no date given.

Said he had visited KU - -LSU - -& New Orleans But sources had confirmed LSU was no longer recruiting him. This has mama written all over it, or mama and daddy wanting Mitchell to stay close to home. - I think the KU visit was purely Mitch's idea - -desire, and more likely then not will in the end run cave to the pressure of mom and dad, even though he stated he was making his own decisions now. I also just think possibly like has been mentioned, if he doesn't get the waiver, which is unlikely then chances are mom and dad have told him he can be right there at home, work and train 10 miles from home with New Orleans U & then declare the following year for the NBA and not have to leave home.

The only thing or question I would have on this is - -quite possibly mama wants him to stay close so they can watch him play, that's great but if he doesn't get the waiver what difference does it make if he is close to home anyways? - -the following year he is off to the NBA. - - Well whatever happens the guy is a stud , his Senior yr 20.9 ppg - -13.6 rpg - - & 8.1 blks pg - -that's a line to talk about - -I don't car who you are - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

What the hell - -Oh well let's see, let me look at my cards, my fortune cookie - Oh yes very clear Mitchell Robinson will decide about where he plays sometime. - -These guys I'm tellin ya where are they getting their information from? - -Dam, aren't they surpose to have SOME KIND of in with these guys, or source? - -Sure doesn't seem to be the case. - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Well I realize something or so it seems with Robinson, I believe Robinson either reached out to Coach Self to see about visit Or Coach Self touched base with him to see if eh would be interested in visit, Bottom line is, it sure looks like interest in KU was totally Robinson - -and not Robinson's parents - -seems like they are totally against KU being his destination. maybe I'm wrong just seems like he is/was on an island by himself as far as KU. - -IF that is truly the case - -that's really sad. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@JayHawkFanToo Well at least that isn't as bad as what Crimsonorblue said lol - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Crimsonorblue22 said:

@jayballer54 you'll probably fall off the ladder and kill mitch

Lmao - - -Oh - -that wouldn't be good lol, but hey I would be a great rim protector lol. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Well I'm thinking I might have found the answer to our problem with the lack of a big man depth.

After long consideration and discussing it over with the family - -I've decided I am going to enroll at KU and play for KU.

I can post them up with the best - I'm 6 ft and have the bulk 205 lbs only had 3 back surgeries and 2 knee surgeries, I know I could make it up and down the floor at least twice a game, I definitely can finish a play flushing as long as I have a sturdy step ladder and get Mitch to hold it for me - -planning on talking to Coach I'm sure he will offer, BUT on ONE condition - I have to have proof I will start lmao - -what ya think guys? - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@jaybate-1.0 So if you want to place it that way then I guess it comes down to who the better recruiters are then right? -- -Is it any of these Coach's fault's that they are able to pull these recruits to their Schools ? - -Didn't Think so. - - Could they get these recruits due to location of the School? - -Pretty fair bet that it is. -- Ya Coach is a hell of a coach - I wouldn't trade him for anyone of these guys BUT the question was Could UK - Duke - -or NC duplicate what KU has done if they were in the Big 12.

Because considering the Schools that's in our Conference and who these Schools are UK - -Duke - -NC it all comes down to the power of the Conference , this Conference OTHER then KU has had no consistency, if we did KU would have had a much bigger challenge to accomplish what they have accomplished. - -Other then a year here a year there the teams in this Conference are no shows in the tourney.

It's not about who we have or who they have - -Again if we want to go that route then KU lags in getting prize recruits to Coach K - - coach Cal - -& Roy - -To say Coach Self is up here and they are down there is just over left field - - again just my opinion - which this is suppose to be about right? - -No wrong answers right? - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@BeddieKU23 -Some of his actions to say the least Questionable - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

You know and I know this might sound really crazy, and even though have heard nothing other then the one day and that is on Zion Williamson.

Seems to me as time goes on I have no idea why but just feeling a little better about the possibility of landing at KU. Now I don't have any new hot tips/leads to back me p on this other then what has already been talked about here, but I'm just feeling MAYBE - -things might just surprise some people.

Mainly the two reason well the obvious third but the main two - -Devon Dotson be a friend of his, still kind of odd that Devon gets added to Zion's AAU team late and they turn things around, Zion likes playing with him and says they could play together at the same place and # 2 The shoe Adias right? as we know when they stick their nose in which they do, they have some pull - -then # 3 obviously is just Coach Self and KU overall. I just wonder - -is there a legit chance? - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

trying to follow recruiting gives me a head ache lol. - -Calgon - -take me away lmao. -- ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@KUSTEVE YEP time to pull anchor, before all this came up it looked very likely that we would be playing with 8 starting out anyways, Coach had said that they were still looking but said it would have to fall into their lap - -well the situation fell into our lap - - just not the right situation - -time to go, didn't hurt to feel it out, we didn't lose anything, we are going to be fine either way- - -run a lot of 4 guard with the 4 we got gonna cause some real problems have the Scholi for next year cause very well might end up needing all we can get. You look at the departures/possible earlies: - - -Graham, Newman, SVI, Doke, Vick - - I just think the kid is soooooo confused/ pressured but you gonna sit and developat New Orleans/Tulane - -come on. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@BShark This is getting to be more of a soap opera by the minute I mean WKU - -Now New Orleans, add this to the fact he notifies the WKU Coach that he is leaving withdrawing from WKU via a TEXT? - -really?

I'm beginning to wonder is it really worth it - -you add in the possibility even if it's a remote possibility you add let's say he tells KU staff ya I'm coming, doesn't get a waiver sits the year, works out with the team and then next year when it's time BAM he leaves without ever touching the floor and or playing a second for KU. Now whether it's the parents, relation, or some other kind of outside influence, giving him some grief/false information it's not good seem like the cons could just in the end run outweigh the pro's

One thing is for sure, If I read things right he has to make some kind of a decision one way or another pretty soon I think maybe at the latest by the end of the month, again maybe the reason he is visiting New Orleans is that he didn't hear what he was wanting to hear from Coach OR Coach didn't hear what he wanted to hear and said - - -good luck, were not going to be able to offer/help you - -I just don't see a positive news coming away from this, I think we are done with this. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@BeddieKU23 It is? - -Do we really want this mess? - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@BShark Well what this says to me is either quite possibly the KU staff quite possibly laid things out for him how they would have to play out such as if he wasn't cleared Robinson would have to commit to sitting and then paly a year such was the Case with Malik and quite possibly he wasn't hip to that as much, they didn't tell him what he wanted to hear, or he is just checking New Orleans because of family, aren't they close to that area? - -hmmm New Orleans/ KU - -KU/New Orleans? -close in stature huh? hmm National exposure? - - placing players in the NBA? - - -developing players? - - environment? just exactly what the hell is this kid thinking? - -this is what we want? - Sorry my Crimson & Blue showing through - - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@BeddieKU23 Ha, # 1 they have about as much chance of Landing Devon as there is a chance of it Snowing on the 4th of July in Tampa Florida # 2with Duval there and isn't Tre Jones a pg? signing for the coming yr - - likely not - - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@BShark Without a doubt. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@BeddieKU23 Ya, I hear ya, it just sounds like a real mess. - -I mean what's happened to family? - -Respect for the other, just another situation of being all about me , me, me - -Now seems like the family is just wanting/pushing towards the NBA - -soon, real soon, all about the money, money, money - -just sad. - -feel sorry for Mitchell. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG

@BShark Ya I hear ya bud and - -that blows, things have changed so much in my life time, things so much more complicated/ complex these days . - -When I was in School playing basketball many, many moons ago we didn't have all these shoe companies competing against one another, we had Converse - -that was it, and they was the old Cloth type high top shoes not these fancy colored or different shoe things, your right gets or can get really ugly - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@mayjay Sorry me personally - -I don't but you could very well be right - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@BShark Mercy, could you imagine?- - -OR IF for some reason Doke would come back next year also - -JUMPIN GEE HOSSIE TOADS, what a front line. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@BeddieKU23 Gotcha, I understand now, it's to bad that people can't honor - -understand and respect the desire the wishes of the boy, - -If he didn't really want to go to WKU in the 1st place sounds like he was just trying to satisfy everyone else no matter of his own feelings first time round. - -If I'm a parent I would want my son to be happy where he was at, not where I wanted him to be. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@BShark Well if that turn out to be the case then I am definitely all for it, but will feel MUCH better when it actually happens. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Well a couple of quotes from Zion Griffin pulled off the Iowa State Board.

Concerning Iowa State from a poster: Zion says I've always liked the Big 12. Iowa State has been one of my favorite teams, I feel like they are a really good fit for me.

My deadline is the end of Sept, if everything plays out I will commit at the end of my visits. The poster said it all sounded good BUT he says then Zion had this to say about KU:

KU is one of my biggest offers, I like KU, because I grew up watching KU, and a lot of my favorite players are from there. I feel like I can definitely see myself fitting in there with them offering me and wanting me on their team. It is a " Dream come true" - -" it is one of my favorite Colleges " - - -Sounds to me with his visit coming on late night the guy is ours for the taking if we want him - got to feel really god about him. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

BShark said:

KUSTEVE said:

@dylans I think they are waiting on what the NCAA says whether he is eligible or not. This kid's ego is not going to allow him to sit on the bench for a year waiting to be eligible, imo. He is already being listed in mock drafts as a top 15 pick. i expect if he isn't eligible, he won't go to college at all.

From what I understand it's done to KU. He's getting backlash from his circle who wants him in the NBA next year no matter what.

Oh and Devon Dotson news... Up to top 20 (and 5 stars) on 247. Doesn't change how he is as a player, but a deserved bump imo.

So your saying it's a no go for KU right? - -If that is the case it rally doesn't surprise me. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@KUSTEVE Agree, the longer this goes the less chance I believe him playing at KU. I don't really think it matters to him as far as committing or not, about the NCAA. I just feel the way things have went with him, If he was going to commit to Ku he would of committed on his visit or shortly like Monday or at least yesterday, I just feel he would of committed and then if the NCAA said he had to sit - -he would just say NOPE I'll sit out and declare next year for the NBA, he goes ahead and commits IF HE WERE GOING TO and then waits, if they clear then he says cool if not he says BYE. - I just think he has decided to sit out and train for the NBA next year. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@mayjay That's exactly what I was talking about, it was the same way when I was in lol - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@Hawk8086 Lol, my wife ( Jennifer better not show up at your doorstep lol - -your name is not Jody is it? lol guys always kid and say to other guys - -Jody is at your house man, you better get home Jody is at your house lol. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@DoubleDD did I miss something? - -who said the Big 12 is the weakest conference? - -are you talking of the 3? - - -not sure about that, I know and I'm just speaking on my own behalf - I sure don't think we are the weakest - -I think we are stronger then the SEC. - -But the question pertaining to this thread was could Kentucky do what KU has done, and to I have to respond that I think they would have a chance, that doesn't speak for the entire conference, the conference as a whole I think Ku - -Baylor - -Oklahoma - -West Virginia - -Iowa State - we are stronger then the SEC as a Conference, maybe not yrs back but in the present tense - -our teams would match with theirs I have no doubt. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@BeddieKU23 What do you mean only about 1/4 the commitment? - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@BShark Ya that's what I'm afraid of bud. Is he a Williamson ? - -umm no - -Is he a Barett? - -umm no - -But what he is - -is a pretty decent player looks like to me and he is headed up. I'm like yo I'm afraid if he visits and wants to commit and we try and hold off have him wait -Then ya he is gone and then who knows if we land Williamson Or Barret either one and end up zero for three.

I just think these are the kind of kids if they want to commit to us - -then we take them, solid Player sure isn't gonna hurt ya I don't think. I think we need to take him if he wants to commit. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@BShark See this is one of those situations possibly as to where here we have a pretty decent player, like you have said probably a 3-4 year player that will contribute and probably constantly improve through the years, has good hops, decent shot, a player that exploded this summer and probably will continue to move up some, here he is and say he is ready to commit after his visit to KU.

Like you say do you take him right then? Or do you put him in a hold pattern and wait for one of the other two - that you have no guarantee that is going to commit to KU in the end run? - Thing being if you put him on hold and then it turns out neither Williamson or Barrett commit, your taking a chance on the kid still being there to take. - -kind of like what to do -what to do. - -a pretty dam decent player that saying wants to come right now solid pledge to commit OR take the risk - maybe he comes maybe he doesn't. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@BShark This was an article that I read of zag's blog just about an half hour ago - -just a little piece they had like three different players and talking about their schools, in this on Zionmentioned hi four schools when he was taking the visits and said If he liked the visit enough hand he was ready to commit he could commit on the spot. ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Well Zags Blog had the little article about Zion Griffin listing his four schools and his listed visit dates. - The one thing that I read and slaps me right in the face is - - He says he doesn't have an exactly date for his commit but has a deadline date of end of September, and this is what sticks out to me he says - - UNLESS he likes a School so much and feels ready to commit on THE SPOT.

Hmmm this strikes me as we have a really golden opportunity right here, he is visiting here what I think the 15th of Sept? - -Late Night right? - -Late night has always been a big recruiting tool in the past, recruits have said repeatedly how the environment was crazy couldn't get over how loud it was. I would have to feel if he really has interest in KU then it would not surprise me in the least as a matter of fact it would stun/floor me if he didn't commit that night/ late night when he was here on his visit - taking in everything considered, he will see the crazed fans, how we love our basketball - -our team, how recruits get treated while they are here on that weekend. - ya I could very easily see him committing on the spot. - -what ya think? - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Read off Bleacher report, says is Baylor in trouble - -AGAIN?

according to a story published recently, University regents were UNAWARE, the athletic program wasn't randomly drug testing student athletes.

Those in side the athletic dept according to the report worried about the consequences of a student athlete testing positive for marijuana thus they opted against random drug testing.

Under the schools drug policy one positive marijuana test could mean a semester-long suspension 2nd positive could lead to expulsion.

It noted the NCAA doesn't have requirements for random testing, but the athletic dept are expected to follow whatever policies the school has laid out. The lack of testing was discovered by Pepper Hamilton, the law firm Baylor had investigate the school's sexual assault allegations. Multiple players took to twitter to deny they weren't drug tested. The University released a findings of facts from Pepper Hamilton in May 2016.

The law firm found " institutional failure at EVERY LEVEL of Baylor's administration directly impacted the response to individual cases and the Baylor community as a whole.

As far as Baylor's football program and athletic dept in particular, Baylor's board of regents wrote Hamilton firm uncovered specific problems " including a failure to identify and respond to a pattern of sexual violence by a football player, to take action in response to report of a sexual assaul by multiple football players, and to take action in response to a report of dating violence.

In the wake of the findings of facts released, Head Coach Art Briles was fired, Former University President Kent Starr left Baylor in August of 2016 after having been demoted And Baylor Athletic director Ian McCow resigned in May of 2016 also.

Dam what a class program. We have to hear these idiots around the Nation talk there crap about Josh Jackson, LaGerald Vick Carlton Bragg and others - and also the reported rape case at the dorm where we STILL don't know what if any KU players were directly involved in that alleged whole situation, and then you have BAYLOR, - -Class just oozing out of that Athletic dept - -and they are at it again - -worried someone might turn up positive. - -holy shit. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY