@BShark said in Next Year's Team Thread:
CUFFE IS STAYING THIS IS ACTUALLY INCREDIBLY SHOCKING DON'T KNOW WHAT TO THINK
Whoaaa, not that is THE ONE that stuns me. hmm this could prove vey interesting
jayballer67
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@BShark said in Next Year's Team Thread:
@Crimsonorblue22 said in Next Year's Team Thread:
I guess we should just give up on him!
Don't believe anyone is saying this.
In addition to rebound, I feel KJ's path to extended playing time involves developing enough skill to potentially play the 4. Right now, he's a situational defensive player.
for sure he would help more at a 4. -Think we will be ok at the 5 with what w got and what we have coming in. - -Gonna be young and yes kind of raw but KJ hope can develop some outside shot
@Crimsonorblue22 said in Next Year's Team Thread:
I guess we should just give up on him!
I sure the heck not giving up on him - -I'm fine with the way he is - he will grow and progress just like Coach does every year developing players
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Next Year's Team Thread:
@jayballer67 He had 10 defensive rebounds in about 180 minutes. His defensive rebounding rate was 6%. He was sub 10% in total rebounding for the season. Bobby Pettiford outrebounded KJ on the defensive glass in 60 fewer minutes on the season.
To be a decent rebounder, those numbers should be around 20% on the defensive end and 15% total rebounding. I'm not asking for him to turn into T-Rob on glass. I'm not even asking for him to be freshman Silvio DeSousa on glass. BTW, KJ and Silvio played almost the exact same number of minutes (178 for KJ to 175 for Silvio) as freshmen and Silvio grabbed 74 total rebounds (24%) and 41 defensive rebounds (25%). Those were elite level numbers.
Perry Ellis as a senior was a bad rebounder at 11% total rebounding and 14.5% defensive rebounding rates. I'll be fine if KJ is better than that at rebounding, but 4 defensive rebounds in 90 minutes is simply not good enough in the Big 12 for someone who plays the 4 or 5 spot as their primary position.
so you just gonna toss the offensive rebounds out the window huh - - ok gotcha
@drgnslayr said in Next Year's Team Thread:
I agree with @Texas-Hawk-10 .... KJ needs to go to rebounding school. He has plenty of energy and athleticism... two great qualities needed for rebounding! He already knows how to defend at a certain level (can also improve). He needs to know more about sealing the boards and also some education as to where rebounds go. I wish Charles Barkley had a school for rebounding. But then... KJ would have to develop a bigger ass to use to clear space... lol
And I'll ask you like I just posted. How many rebounds should he have playing in less then 5 minutes a game? - -6 - -7 - -8 - -10 would that work ? - The things this kid brings to the table more then just rebounding is un deniable - when he projects more minutes he have those rebounds you talk about - nobody is gonna get I dunno what kind of numbers you are looking for in 4.8 minutes a game but you looking the wrong direction
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Next Year's Team Thread:
@jayballer67 And if he never becomes a multidimensional player, his role will never evolve beyond what it was last season while he's at KU. You can't be a 4 or 5 at KU and expect extended minutes when you can't rebound. His rebounding is why he didn't get more opportunities against good teams because despite his defense, he was a net negative on the floor because he couldn't end other teams possessions and gave up a bunch of offensive rebounds and extra possessions to other teams.
I'll take KJ'S line any time any where when you project it out. - Pretty hard to knock some kid for not getting a double double when he is playing less then 5 minutes a game & not saying he would do that even with extended minutes - -BUT I'll bet you this he gets those minutes like other 2nd- -3rd year payers I'll bet you the farm he averages 7 .5 - -8- -9 rebounds a game . - Is KJ gonna be the new whipping boy now that David is gone ?- -Never fails -easy to pick a guy out and constantly be on his ass and yet when he is a big reason for winning THEN he gets the ATTA'A BOY'S . In his limited time he got 20 offensive rebounds -had 8 blocked shots shot 52 % from the floor- -I'll take that anytime -he will fit as a solid piece of this team quite nicely thanks..
He may never be the starting five, but I'll bet you this - I bet he will have quality minutes much more then he had this year. Every player brings different things to the floor, I guess who knows maybe he won't be the strongest player rebounding but I bet you if he isn't already he will be one of the better if not the best big we have on the team. Plus you know and I know both if you can't play defense for Bill then your gonna have a great seat to watch the game on the bench right next to Bill - -Bill loves defensive effort you can't do that - - SIT DOWN - - again why you think Bill put him in at vital times ? - because the others wasn't getting it done defensively, Coach even mentioned how KJ shut the guy down when no one else could. -I'll take him with the extended minutes ANYTIME
KJ is going to be just fine people need to R---E--L--A--X. - played small sample size minutes. - There was a reason Coach Self put him in for those minutes when he did, and that was becuase our other 5's that was end was getting their ass beat on the defensive end and their lunch ate. Others players on this team wasn't rebounding thats why the opposition was getting 3-4 shots at the rim AND they wasn't rebounding plus defending so- - have a seat. - It was KJ that put the stop on some of these guys - -his rebounding is going to be just fine
Glad to see this, I didn't think he would transfer out BUT with a mama thinking she knows whats best - -you never know. .I think KJ will just bring more be solid for us help us defend this title
And it just keeps getting better and better for Kentucky. - - Keion Brooks has entered the portal. He played in all 33 games for them last year. - -That makes him & Dontaie Alen ( they just totally screwed with this kid ) & Bryce Hopkins to enter the portal
Then they lost TY Ty to the NBA Draft - -Topping has entered the draft but maintaining this eligibility status Plus another - -Dammit I hate it when that happens to that team lol
@Jethro said in More Problems For Tucky:
@BShark said in More Problems For Tucky:
Duke has poached Jai Lucas.
LMAO!!!! BOOYAH!
<---taking a trip over to Rump Rafters about now ...hehehehehe...
See ya there - -Nuclear Melt down
Thing is with Hunter, I wouldn't be OVRELY concerned if he didn't come in for a visit. I think he could very easily still land here without visit. Thing about it is - -he has had a first hand look at how we run our game , he knows the team from competing against us. Has a feel for how Coach Self Coach's .
I think most of what else he needs to know could actually be done through Zoom/face call talking to the staff always has time after to really check out the Campus and such .I think if he is serious most of this can take place without visit just meet on face time and such working out details, How Coach would want to use him and such - - expectations and so on - - we shall see
Just watch my 1st episode of " The Blue Print " - and of course I once again am now stoked. - -Our motto this year like they said in the film- -" Embrace the Process " Dam every time Coach speaks just gets me going this guy is class and I know HE WILL get this done, call me crazy but you can hear it in the players when they talk - I think their whole approach , attitude , confidence ,
I'm telling you Big Twelve you better take notice , - -you best be ready - cause were coming, we ARE NOT going to be your whipping boys anymore - -we gonna hit back - -Is it Sept yet ? - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
@Crimsonorblue22 said in Our Big 12 Expansion:
Can we have a round robin if they leave? The better bb teams are in the south.
I'm not sure , they didn't mention anything about it, but I don't know why not , didn't w have a round robin before when we use to have 12 teams some time ago ?
@Jethro said in 2022 Transfer Portal Thread:
@BeddieKU23 said in 2022 Transfer Portal Thread:
Big South POY DJ Burns in the Portal. Large human, 6'9 275.
Don't think that there would be a lot of interest - -not trying to sound negative , cause it's not. The guy has game , big boy , has a pretty nice stroke , smooth , moves pretty well , finish's - all very nice qualities yet you have to wonder IF we were to show some interested in someone like this- - -would his game translate to major P-5 level ? - Competition going to be a lot stiffer night in night out just wonder how he would be able to compete against other 6'9 - - 6'10 - -6-11 major P-5 big's. - I do like his game though pretty smooth shot, step away from the bucket a little open space J. -I'm sure he will find a pretty nice home
Well read this from three different articles this morning , one from Blair Kerkoff , then another from Longhorn Wire - -Patrick Conn and then another writer.
So it looks like this upcoming School yr will be the last year of our current Big 12 status. - Looks like now that the 4 new teams will be joining and participating in 2023/24. BYU , Houston , Central Florida & Cinn
Says we will be playing with a 14 team Conference for a Couple of years - until Oklahoma & Texas leave for the SEC. Texas has their money , but is said waiting for Oklahoma to come up with theirs for their departure.
We would be playing a Division Schedule in football , BUT would not play a complete round robin in Basketball. -
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CBS offered a projected division setup t one would have : K/State - -KU - -Iowa State - -Okla - - Okla St - - BYU - -& Cincinnati
The Other would be : - -Baylor - - TCU - - Tex Tech - - Texas - -WV - - Houston - - & Central Florida
Patrick Conn wrote off the Longhorn wire that we would have a likely 9 game Conference Schedule & 3 non Con games. - -They would also have Rotating cross Division matchups
So I guess it's all about to begin , I do not think though if these schools start next year- -I just think that Texa and Oklahoma will use their early buyout and move to join the SEC next year could be wrong but I think with these schools joining next year i think it will be enough where Texas and Oklahoma get out
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2022 Crootin:
@jayballer67 said in 2022 Crootin:
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2022 Crootin:
@jayballer67 in-state recruiting in 2023 will pretty much be a bust. As far as portal guys go, we're touching base with so many it's hard to keep track. I do know two JuCo safeties will visit next weekend, and we had a WR from Minnesota in for a visit last weekend. Haven't heard how much of a chance we have with them, but I do know they're casting a very wide net in the portal.
2024 is probably going to be the staff's make or break season on the trail. It's another very strong local class and 2023 is scheduled to be the breakout on the field. Canady is certainly one to follow over the next 18 months.
Thanks for that. I had heard at one point must of been hot air - I had heard at one time they thought we was doing really good in the 2023 class. - What Happened ? did the staff just drop the ball at ol boy left ?
Long story, but the very very short version is Schoonover developed lots of those relationships then Lance basically fired him.
Could be some good 2022 news coming…
Thanks for sharing your input buddy.I really appreciate your opinion and thoughts on our football program , good to heat that MAYBE w might have some good happening not to long - -thanks again buddy
The only bad thing with these guys is -you know DAM WELL that all these others schools recruiting these players -like Hunter , and this kid - - they all are going to do their damnest talking crap on Ku and the possibility of post Season Ban from the NCAA next year and possible probation and saying that we won't get the type exposure they want and there being a possibility of Coach Self being suspended next year.
You know they gonna do everything they can talking crap about us and the NCAA for next season to scare these guys away from us
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2022 Crootin:
@jayballer67 in-state recruiting in 2023 will pretty much be a bust. As far as portal guys go, we're touching base with so many it's hard to keep track. I do know two JuCo safeties will visit next weekend, and we had a WR from Minnesota in for a visit last weekend. Haven't heard how much of a chance we have with them, but I do know they're casting a very wide net in the portal.
2024 is probably going to be the staff's make or break season on the trail. It's another very strong local class and 2023 is scheduled to be the breakout on the field. Canady is certainly one to follow over the next 18 months.
Thanks for that. I had heard at one point must of been hot air - I had heard at one time they thought we was doing really good in the 2023 class. - What Happened ? did the staff just drop the ball at ol boy left ?
He says he would like to make a decision around the 15 - - to the 20th of May. - -something to keep our eyes on
Ok , so sitting here just wondering and can't come up with answers ( Farmer ) I need to hear what your thinking, as your pretty in touch seem to be so buddy , what the hell is going on with our recruitment ? I'm just not seeing or hearing ANYTHING on possibles out of the portal. What gives bud , what's your train of thought ?
Does it just boil down to lack of W's on the field ? - I have heard one thing and it has to do with in State kids - -that since Schoonie left that the staff just dropped the ball and didn't stay on certain kids - -any truth t that buddy? - Is it the lack of NIL'S ? - kind of frustrating - I know if kids going in portal they have to be in by the 1st right ? - -Have you heard of anyone we sitting good with ?
I DID see where we might be in better shape for a couple of in state kids - -but they are - -24 recruits -we need some help , depth now. - - Heard we have a kid right hee in Topeka that they think who will be the # 1 ranked recruit in the State of Kansas in 24 - -BJ Canady- -likes KU been to Lawrence multiple times and is a friend of KY Thomas - see now this is a kid w need to hunt like a dog step on him - -stay on him prove sincere intrest lock him up - we have JUST GOT TO wrap these kind of kids up - - In State.
Then another 24 recruit Think his name is Jayshawn Ross - -heard we are in pretty good with him to - he is a edge. - got to land guys like these two .The one down fall that I had heard about Coach L and staff - - just not good recruiters - -once kids are there at KU then they develop with them well but it's getting them there - - What are you hearing Farmer ? -- Any kind of hope for recutis coming in?
@BeddieKU23 said in 2022 Transfer Portal Thread:
Whoa, Chattanooga star guard Malachi Smith entering the portal. Avg 19.9 ppg and 6 boards. I say enter that race as well.
These guys sound nice -- but thing is we have got to get some guys to move if any of these possible transfer want to come. Just wonder why taking so long. - Heard CAM really doesn't want to transfer out - -Heard KJ & Mama might have a change of heart an wants to stick. - -Bout the only one I heard quite likely is Cuffe and even he hasn't come out and said anything yet. - I know it's all about numbers and such but I rally thought Cuffe had some possibilities for us tape I saw was pretty nice
@BShark said in 2022 Transfer Portal Thread:
We are in on the SDSU kid legitimately.
that is the left hander right ? - -solid
@BeddieKU23 said in 2023 Recruiting:
Recent 23 offer Andrej Stojakovic didn't mention KU as a school he intends to visit. Bummed there
ya I saw that too. Well just move on and don't waste anymore time - -plenty of big time players , we will be fine. would of been nice though
@BeddieKU23 said in Next Year's Team Thread:
Mark Adams got an extension and raise of about $1 million to stay at Texas Tech through the 26-27 season.
Really think he done a good job for them
@BeddieKU23 said in 2024 recruiting thread:
KU involved with #3 ranked 24 prospect Tre Johnson. 6'5 shooting guard from Texas
Kansas: "I have been talking to Jeremy Case. The offer was exciting because they have always had a great school. I like their offense and how their guards have freedom so I really like that offer and having interest from that school."
Arkansas, Kentucky, UCLA also involved this early.
Kentucky - - Kentucky , go figure - -just so cal can screw this kid to. For all the talent he has had a UK and ONE Championship, their fans used to talk so much shade - -not quite so much now
kind of weird. Sure thought we would of heard of some defections in the Portal by now
Soory guys, really didn't know where to put this so just bear with me. - This is just mind boggling to me anyways , hard to conceive but interesting little tidbit.
In the past TWENY Years - - KU'S record at the Phog is 309 - - -& 17 . - -This is even more WOW. In the past TWENTY years KU'S Big 12 opponent's is 9 - - -& - -130 - - let me say that again. - -In the past TWENTY yrs KU'S Big 12 opponents are 9 - - -& 130 - -that's just insane. - this is Via Sports Reference
Saw this off the latest mock draft off ESPN. - - Abaji - - going 1st round- - 14th pick to Cleveland - - & Christan - - going 1st round 28th pick to Golden State
If this comes true tell me when is the last time KU has had 2 guys taken in the 1st round of the NBA draft ? - - Have we EVER had two players taken in the 1st round ? - Serious question - -I honestly don't know
I'm still not a sold/confident that Hunter end up here , hope I'm wrong and as hard as it is to believe I have been wrong before lol.- I think he possibly lands at Louisville or Purdue bee a pretty good fit at either, Louisville kinda scares me
@Crimsonorblue22 said in 2022 Transfer Portal Thread:
@BShark are we waiting on Wilsons decision? Does this mean we lose yes and Bobby?
Bobby isn't going anywhere. he will be here no doubt I beleive
So if I were a guessing guy I would have to say if we can land Tyresse Hunter & Ricky Council - not sure do they both play the same position ? - Anyways if not if we landed both we would have to call that a very sweet Portal.
Coach Self said they would like to find a tall Guard a guy that could play the Combo - -a guard that could fill it up/score . IF & This isn't happening but IF he said IF both Wilson and Braun returned and no one transferred out that KU would be full and have no scholi available - -but take it to the bank be willing to bet that Christan & Jaeln BOTH are gone
Mercy the Iowa State fans about to have a Nuclear meltdown on Hunter .Talking and saying if he ends up at Ku would Self even play him when they come to Hilton. Just about ready to wet themselves - -they are hot lol.
Her's the thing , they are all worked up on this and the kid hasn't even said he is going to land here, sure thee has been talk but my GOD people at least wait till it happens , who knows ? - -no one can say 100 % it's a done deal , is he gonna visit ? - -So we have heard - BUT come on until he announces he is coming - -chill the frick out. - This sounds really terrible and it hasn't happened yet and sure the hell hope it doesn't - -and better not but YET a hot as those people are it wouldn't stun me if the poor kid doesn't get bodily harm threats sent to him if he says he is coming to KU - -Serious and that would be really pathetic/sad - don't laugh I could actually see something like that coming from those idiots - all the remarks they are making. Like I said he hasn't even said he is coming YET.
@BShark said in 2022 Transfer Portal Thread:
@Crimsonorblue22 Hunter. Completely unrelated to wing situation. Staff will bring in another guard that is 6'5'' or taller as well.
Your killing me here Dude lol. - - You post earlier about other schools getting involved with hunter - -then we got MR happy pants sponge Bob - so Ol Spongy here mean things looking good again or is Sponge Bob just a article you use to bath with lol
Had to laugh at a couple of responses on this - -Big time favorite : - ISU fan - - - Tired of Blue Bloods , if every blue blood fell of the face of the earth the world would be better fot it.
The response to that statement : Wait for it - - - Well try to be a MINI blue blood if you can - - - -Oh BUT WAIT - - - your Iowa State - -roflmao
Then this one. - Iowa State Fan Motto - - - Don't think - -- just Boo - - -lmao
@BShark said in Next Year's Team Thread:
I love it, personally. ISU is our new farm team. YEEHAW.
I LOVE IT TOO - -WOO-HOO
@BShark said in Next Year's Team Thread:
Love returning to UNC. An expected but important for KU domino...
OH ? -important for Domino ? - you talking about Hunter ?
Let's see , now that the guys have officially declared to enter the NBA draft , which we knew they would. Not that this is done, now so when is it a player has to announce and turn in his request/paper to enter the portal/transfer I thought I had seen May 1st i guess really no actual time line right all though there is a time they do or they have to sit a year without a waiver is that right? - We should start hearing about our transfer outs now - possibilities Cuffe , Cam , who else ? - KJ - I myself I just get this feeling KJ going to end up staying for another year to see how it plays out - - could be wrong mama needs to sit down and let her son decide he is old enough to make his OWN DECISIONS NOW
@BShark said in 2022 Transfer Portal Thread:
Soon :trade_mark:
Question BShark - can we afford to play Juan and Tryesse on the floor for extended minutes at the same time ? - Definisvely really good - -but on the offensive end ? - - for long periods - -real gamble - like playing 3-5 - Just not really sure if the positives outweigh the negatives on this
Roster for sure gonna have a new look next year , you figure with Dave gone , Remy gone , Jalen Coleman lands gone , Mitch gone , And chances really good Christan and Jalen both gone then you can almost bet Cuffe gone , Chance of Cam being gone , - lot of new faces hitting the floor, yet I'm thinking were gonna be fine
Now that it's looking like more and more we lose Jalen AND CB BOTH - of course doesn't surprise me. Jalen may not be NBA but if not I think he still leaves and plays somewhere making money. - The roster for sure gonna have a new look to it.
Heard Hunter is going to visit - - Anyone know when ?
@Oldmanhawk said in KU/Big 12 NBA draft decisions thread:
@jayballer67 yeah. He gone. Good for him. Sure was fun to watch him play. Will miss his competitiveness
I will too. Thing for me is and there are some here that don't/won't like it BUT I loved Christan's edge he had to him - -that dawg - some arrogance he had maybe cockiness. I love guys that show some fire a guy that shows emotion If he can walk the walk as well as talk the talk - then more power to him , love to see him rile some fans up , players up. playing a man's game instead of walking the floor emotionless and acting like zombies - Christan had THAT FIRE " bitch " LOL - SORRY but THAT'S what I'm talking about after a dunk you very much a fire paly a game changing play I want to see EMOTION from the players- -- Christan has that
@BShark said in KU/Big 12 NBA draft decisions thread:
Statement from CB. :crown:
Knew this was happeing -we all did or should have. - -Said it before - - say it again - - he not coming back no matter how much he loves KU - -on top of ballin - -he is smart
@BShark said in Next Year's Team Thread:
@Crimsonorblue22 if he gets first round feedback he will leave
And I think he will get that 1st round feedback
@Kcmatt7 said in KU/Big 12 NBA draft decisions thread:
CB announcing he will test NBA waters on Sunday - per twitter
We knew that was coming. - I just fully believe he won't be back. don't think like same as some others don't think he can really improve his draft that much by returning
Well if we don't hear anything over the weekend - - Things should really start rolling next week Football AND Basketball. These kids have until May 1st i guess they have to submit in writing stating about transferring through poral to the School. - If they don't get that done then they ar not immediately eligible unless waiver possibly ? - -Things should pick up for sure next week
@drgnslayr said in KU/Big 12 NBA draft decisions thread:
Guys like CB and JWil need to get NBA feedback... this is a must! Realistically... they both should realize how much they improved this past 12 months, think about how much they can improve in the next 12 months, and make a decision. From my perspective, they should both return and use Och as the example of why it pays to have patience and continue to work hard.
Wilson already has his NBA feed back so he probably knew
Got Snippets from TOS some comments about our incoming Frosh - sounds pretty decent anyways which I pretty much had been hearing and seeing anyways but this is what I saw;
Udeh : - -Love hearing this - - -High Energy , excellent on the glass ( That's really good to hear ) & really good rim in transition - - oh ya
Rice :- - -Power Wing with improved Skill level
Zuby - - - Powerful , ( nice , nice ) Explosive ( - -THAT sounds sweet always can use those types for sure ) - & Ultra Aggressive - Me Thinks I like EVERYTHING that was said about Zuby
Been hearing Udeh & Zuby still kind of raw but that's ok if they can produce in other areas and grow really good 3-4 yr players - I'll take that any day - -everyday. Coach and the Staff seems to have a history of developing guys -
OK looking for my trusted insiders. BShark couple of questions maybe you can help. - Ricky Council - - ( WSU ) - heard were in on him or hope we are. So questions are is he legit ? Solid player ? - - , also how many yeas of eligibility does he have ? Plus honestly do we have a shot ? - -Fair , good , or really good? heard them talking about him off TOS TY BShark appreciate it if you can help me out
@BShark said in Next Year's Team Thread:
Yeah JWill signed with an agent. But apparently you can do that now and come back if it's an NCAA certified agent? Lol. Probably gone oh well.
that hurts , & if Christan leaves gonna be interesting. - -If Christan comes back - -means a lot why ? - - CAUSE we will STILL have our Dog , our boy with some attitude , cockiness , edge - I love seeing that when you can back it up - - Christan can back it up. Christan comes back next year might be better, NO Och to defer shots to seems like he passed up a lot of shots, I dunno maybe he just felt Och needed to be THE GUY. - Well id Christan comes back he can be THE GUY- I still have serious doubts about him coming back but the ol wise one says - Oh he will be back -so we will have to see - hope so