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Texas Hawk 10 said:

kjayhawks said:

@jayballer73 still don’t see it and it looks like a KSU bench warmer threw hands first.

A KSU player did throw the first punch, but Dave threw one in the middle of all that as well.

On the KU side, Silvio is going to get at least 5 games, Dave is probably going to get 1 game. Garrett looked like he should be in the clear discipline wise from the B12, we'll see if Self does anything.

agree with all you say here. - -they were talking on the ESPN that Silvio should be Season ending because of picking up the chair - -thank GOD Howard was able to grab him

kjayhawks said:

@jayballer73 still don’t see it and it looks like a KSU bench warmer threw hands first.

they just showed it again at the half of the Duke game , actually McCormack stepping on people when they are down.

I was wondering about this - - they were saying it needed to be handled swiftly and sternly. - talking about a season ending suspension to Silvio. - -I could see that, could they said actually him grabbing a chair and actually thinking about using it is a criminal offense. - I just not sure what will happen with David

kjayhawks said:

I don’t see Dave doing anything but trying to pull guys apart. I count only one Jayhawk, Silvio throwing a punch. I count 4 wildcats and 2 could get charged for assaulting a police officer for pushing repeatedly.

you need to look AGAIN McCormack threw a punch

Texas Hawk 10 said:

rockchalkwyo said:

jayballer73 said:

rockchalkwyo said:

I’m glad Silvio stared him down. They stole the ball while we’re having the clock run out and Silvio had a bad a$$ block. KSU started it by rushing SDS. What I do not like, and I mean DO NOT LIKE is the chair The rest is a blur for me. It seems like David and Garrett tried to separate players.

David took a swing at a player

I guarantee KSU swung first

Doesn't matter, Silvio and Dave each threw punches, they will be suspended for that. The KSU players will get their suspensions as well, but KU is going to be without a back up for Doke on Saturday now.

ya I think Silvio is gone for some time

Texas Hawk 10 said:

rockchalkwyo said:

I’m glad Silvio stared him down. They stole the ball while we’re having the clock run out and Silvio had a bad a$$ block. KSU started it by rushing SDS. What I do not like, and I mean DO NOT LIKE is the chair The rest is a blur for me. It seems like David and Garrett tried to separate players.

Silvio needed to walk away after the block, that's ultimately what started everything was Silvio not walking away after the block.

No he went and stood over the kid staring down at him. - -I'm like you block the dam shot which he did - - GAME OVER and walk away

FarmerJayhawk said:

I think Silvio gets a handful, Dave maybe a couple, and we all go on. No reason to do anything super drastic.

Silvio - - 4-5 ? - - I''m thinking Dave just the one -- maybe not - - could be 2

Kubie said:

I can't see Marcus throwing a punch, or anything else other than getting between the active fighters

I think Marcus should be fine

DanR said:

jayballer73 said:

BeddieKU23 said:

I cant imagine Silvio or Dave playing Saturday. Welcome to 4 out

I don't think you'll see Silvio for a Lonnnnnnnnnnnnng time. - -I bet you looking at a 2-3 game suspension from Conference - - McCormack will probably be suspended for a game. - -The DeSousa just got himself in so deep with Self - -he might not see the floor for some time to come.

For people wanted to see the 4- we got our wish. - question becomes who is Dok's backup now? I mean where was DeSousa head? - -how far up his ass did he have it? - - I mean you recover -- - block the shoot and walk away - -you don't stand over the top of a kid and taunt him - -that's taunting - -and then pick up a dam Chair? - -OMG

relax and watch the replay a few times

oh I seen it just fine - - -they showed it over , and over , and over , and over. - -Tell me why Silvio felt the need to stand over the top of the kid and taunt? - -Block the dam shot and walk - -this is where it all started - - Tell me why the hell Silvio felt the need to grab a fricking chair? - - No place for that in the game - -hell ya K-State better be having players suspended too - -just a really ugly situation

DanR said:

jayballer73 said:

BeddieKU23 said:

I cant imagine Silvio or Dave playing Saturday. Welcome to 4 out

I don't think you'll see Silvio for a Lonnnnnnnnnnnnng time. - -I bet you looking at a 2-3 game suspension from Conference - - McCormack will probably be suspended for a game. - -The DeSousa just got himself in so deep with Self - -he might not see the floor for some time to come.

For people wanted to see the 4- we got our wish. - question becomes who is Dok's backup now? I mean where was DeSousa head? - -how far up his ass did he have it? - - I mean you recover -- - block the shoot and walk away - -you don't stand over the top of a kid and taunt him - -that's taunting - -and then pick up a dam Chair? - -OMG

relax and watch the replay a few times

This is not good BUT as far as Silvio he hardly touch's the floor anyways. - -I's Dave like you say , guarnteee a game anyways. - Like they said question is will it be Saturday - -or a league game

rockchalkwyo said:

jayballer73 said:

rockchalkwyo said:

I’m glad Silvio stared him down. They stole the ball while we’re having the clock run out and Silvio had a bad a$$ block. KSU started it by rushing SDS. What I do not like, and I mean DO NOT LIKE is the chair The rest is a blur for me. It seems like David and Garrett tried to separate players.

David took a swing at a player

I guarantee KSU swung first

1ST - -2ND - -3 - - 4TH - -5TH - -IT WILL BE A SUSPENION

BeddieKU23 said:

I cant imagine Silvio or Dave playing Saturday. Welcome to 4 out

I don't think you'll see Silvio for a Lonnnnnnnnnnnnng time. - -I bet you looking at a 2-3 game suspension from Conference - - McCormack will probably be suspended for a game. - -The DeSousa just got himself in so deep with Self - -he might not see the floor for some time to come.

For people wanted to see the 4- we got our wish. - question becomes who is Dok's backup now? I mean where was DeSousa head? - -how far up his ass did he have it? - - I mean you recover -- - block the shoot and walk away - -you don't stand over the top of a kid and taunt him - -that's taunting - -and then pick up a dam Chair? - -OMG

rockchalkwyo said:

I’m glad Silvio stared him down. They stole the ball while we’re having the clock run out and Silvio had a bad a$$ block. KSU started it by rushing SDS. What I do not like, and I mean DO NOT LIKE is the chair The rest is a blur for me. It seems like David and Garrett tried to separate players.

David took a swing at a player

kjayhawks said:

Why was only KU called for a T, KSU started the fight

DeSousa instigated the whole dam thing - -block the fricken ball and walk - -Game over - - you DO NOT stand over the top of a kid AND TAUNT - - - you don't pick up a chair over your head and act like you gonna bust the chair on someone's head

well say Goodbye to Desousa for some time, - He was just flat wrong , wrong , wrong. - -you made the block at the end. - -you DO NOT go and stand over the kid - taunting. - -then you PICK UP A CHAIR - -WTF are you thinking you are obviously not. - Mc Cormick probably suspended a game - maybe two

BShark said:

@jayballer73 I'm good with KSU never winning.

lol - -- -me too

approxinfinity said:

@jayballer73 we need Mizzou back to hate on

Lol , would be nice - - fresh meat

Did anyone else see the stat? - -Since the conception of the Big twelve , KU is 50-6 - -50-6 against K-State , you can't call it a rivalry until you get a little better competition - I mean they got to win once and awhile lol

Didn't take David to get taken out. - - didn't take long after he was back in to get beat on defense either lol

FarmerJayhawk said:

KSU is so, so bad

Like REALLY - - -REALLY Bad

Another poster from another site posted this , and makes pretty good sense. - - KU loses ONE game and drops five spots. - - Duke loses TWICE in the same week and stays in the top ten. -- Something smells lol. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

FarmerJayhawk said:

Taking the Cats at -16.5. Would love to disembowel them like we used to but this team probably won’t score enough.

YA I don't think we cover. That's a lot of points , don't care who you are. - Now 11-12 maybe - - maybe BUT 16.5 can't see it. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

BShark said:

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We good.

We take care of the ball , this could get ugly. - K-state themselves turns it over more then us , about a 5 rebound advantage per game for us , free throw pct right at the same , we shoot the 2 & the 3 better and they have NO ANSWER NONE for Doke. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

I don't know guys , the spread right now is 16 1/2 - -love my Jayhawks but I think even for K-state I'd have to take that - -seems high. - What you think? - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Pooka gaining National attention before season begins. According to Pro Foot Ball Focus , they listed the top 25 returning running backs in America returning for another year Pooka checked in at # 7. - Pretty , they also mentioned as bad as the run blocking KU had - -Ku checked in at # 95 in that , still Pooka checked in at # 3 - -with 0.37 broken tackles per attempt. - -( DAM )

247 also has Pooka listed they listed the top 10 returning running backs and Pooka checked in at # 10. - -If we just had a QB that could run/throw a little a true dual threat, could you imagine how much that could help Pooka.

Until we get a QB that can make a defense respect the throw they just gonna keep stacking the box and shut Pooka down - -WE HAVE to get a QB

FarmerJayhawk said:

jayballer73 said:

FarmerJayhawk said:

Ekeler is out. Will miss his tweets but not his blown FG protections.

refresh my memory what did Ekeler do again ? - -mercy seems like the turn over in staff is a lot for no longer then Les has been here. Business I guess. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Special teams and inside backers

Cool thanks couldn't remember

FarmerJayhawk said:

Ekeler is out. Will miss his tweets but not his blown FG protections.

refresh my memory what did Ekeler do again ? - -mercy seems like the turn over in staff is a lot for no longer then Les has been here. Business I guess. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

HighEliteMajor said:

@benshawks08 Oh, right, little leftists are offended when female anatomy is referenced or joked about. Save it for someone who cares.

@jayballer73 He doth protest too much, me thinks. You like to attack but when you get just a smidge back, even very subtly, you freak out like you've been shot. Thanks for the laugh.

try reading your own words - -you really want to keep doing this? -- cause your borin me

West Virginia just killing Texas 45-20 - - I don't see how Shaka makes it another season

HighEliteMajor said:

@jayballer73 Not sure why UK is your point of focus. Why not UNC or Duke? Or Nova? Well, we know why. At least with UK you have some argument. But that proves my point further. With UK you still lose.

If I was a UK fan I'd drive my car off a cliff. That's what I'd do. But I'd sneak a peak at Ashley Jugs, er, Judd before doing that.

But really, first, I'd look at my eight rings. And then compare to KU's three as noted above. KU has a touch more urgency to get up with the big boys in that most important arena.

Second, I'd realize that I won one in 2012, this past decade, while KU didn't.

Third, I'd notice that I went to the FF in 2011, 2012, 2014, and 2015. KU went in 2012 and 2016 while Cal was coaching there.

Fourth, I'd notice that I sniffed the NC twice, winning one (Since Cal arrived). KU sniffed it once.

Fifth, I'd notice that Cal did what he did in six less seasons than Self.

Sixth, I'd notice that I didn't get busted by the FBI, doing stupid texting, and then lying about it.

But I'd rather have Self than Cal. That's not a discussion point for me. His lying related to the FBI has made me waver a bit on things though generally.

Obviously you see a factual statement or an slight as being that "people want to bag on Self." I'll bag on Self if I want to. Just the facts. And many facts weigh in Self's favor.

Instead of responding like a fool and cursing, and claiming folks are "rant and cuss and holler" or whatever you tried to say, maybe remove your lips from Self's backside and breath.

you just really can't hold a decent conversation huh? - -you truly are a piece of work. - -When someone steps on your toes your 1st response is talking about how someone is kissing someone's ass - -mature - -real mature. But OFCOURSE your right - - -your always right - -how stupid of me, how dare I even suggest. - -Umm the reason I choose Kentucky , probably because they are the true blue bloods of all blue bloods - -Most wins of ANY program in NCAA history always among the Nations elite - -but silly me - hell I would know why - -I mean all I do is kiss Bill's ass. - -by the way how many ass's do you kiss? - just curious. - -I'm so glad you decided to turn this into a battle of insults now - - that's truly what people want to see here. now I'm done so insult away , we know you can't resist the temptation - It's to bad you couldn't respond back with some mature response , but I'm not gonna sit here and just let you start throwing insults about people kissing people's ass - -fool , kissing ass lol - -look in the mirror , NO WAIT 2nd thought don't I don't want to be responsible for accidents -how about you breath. Ok go ahead I'm sure people all waiting your NEXT response , can't wait. - -Myself I'm done. Cause like others say - -Stop before it starts - I'm moving on got to go kiss Bill's ass roflmmfao

Since the year of 2008 : - -Kentucky has been in two National Champion Ship games. They have won ONE National Championship , in the year of 2012 against ? - - - KU. Since 2008 Kentucky has appeared in the final four , four times - - in 2011 , 2012 , 2014 & 2015

Since the year of 2008 :- - Kansas has been in two National Champion Ship games. They have won ONE National Champion Ship , in the year of 2008 against ? - - - Memphis. Since 2008 Kansas has appeared in the final four , three times - - in 2008 , 2012 & 2018

KU two title games starting in 2008 - -and 2018 . Kentucky two title games since 2008 - - -2012 - -and 2014

Yet people wanna bag on Coach Self , again they just don't hand deliver these things to teams gift wrapped on a golden platter.

Hell if we wanna rant and cuss and holler about Self should be doing more with his talent. Then what the hell should they be saying or what if some people here were Kentucky fans , what would they be saying about Cal ?

You talk about Coach having the top 5 talent he has - - How many times since 2018 has Coach Self had or been ranked higher in the recruiting class over Kentucky's class's ? - - ZERO. - But yet same amount of Natty's and they have a whooping ONE more whooping final four appearance , come on man.

HighEliteMajor said:

It is completely irrational to massage an "ego" (if that's the reason) and compromise winning an NC this season.

Next season there's a very reasonable chance we're not in the tourney anyway. But forgetting that for a moment, it's still completely irrational.

This is worse than many other instances where we question Self because he has admitted clearly the composition of our best lineup and scheme. His own words.

Let's not think that "Self knows." He admitted back a few years ago that he didn't know. That our view of three point shooting was correct and he was wrong. Further, lack of FFs and NCs with consistent top 5 rosters would seem to indicate the man doesn't have all the answers. We just went a full decade without a national championship and only sniffing it once (2012).

I got to say it man - - you just ride this Final four shit and Championship to death, you have been shown repeatedly, you act like Bill has the patent for not winning a National Championship with top 5 rosters and so on and so on and yada yada yada. So again I'll say and ask - what the hell would you do if you were a Kentucky fan ? - -Cal has not won any more Championships then Self has during his tenure at Kansas.

Mahomes is an absolute freak half way there 1/2 to go - - -

RockChalkinTexas said:

Hi everyone. As bad as the first half was it got some what better ib the 2nd. The flow of the game was out of sync. At the 8 minute mark an older lady behind UT bench had a heart attack and play stopped for awhile and all the commercials didn't allow either team any rhythm. But the charge/block of Marcus was the game changer. I lucked out on my seats. 4 fans from Topeka who hated KSUcks as much as i do were behind me and 2 guys in front and 2 girls from Wichita next to me. Was fun when Devon made that 3 to seal the game as all the UT fans bailed. We sang the chant and it was beautiful. A young kid who sat next to me last year came by with his mom to say hi after the game!! I've met so many great fans over the years. I met Devon's uncle and aunt and showed them and another couple where they come out to get the bus and she told Devon when he came out to 'sign this nice lady's book' and he did! I got 3 media guides from HCBS earlier in the season so i had each player sign their page along with the coaches and even Gurley and Hanni and the team doctor i know. Hudy was around pregame and eas hugging everyone but Coach said he never got to talk to her when I was getting my picture with him. Did more videos than photos but it won't let me post here from my phone. Too big. Saw Dedrick and high fived all the Austin Spurs guys there with him.

Boy sounds like you had a great time. I would of been in 7 th heaven. So glad you had a good time. - Your right the game was pretty choppy, sure hope the lady is ok - -bad situation , got heart conditions myself so I feel for her.

would be awesome to be able to meet Devons family and other things - -good for you again love seeing the opposing teams fans file for the exits. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

kjayhawks said:

@jayballer73 our ESPN plus actually got used for something other than basketball lol.

Oh dam did you get it on ESPN plus for free ?

BShark said:

Interesting things going on in Manhattan. They already had a 4 man class (despite 3 open scholarships), just signed a transfer big from UTEP and are hot and heavy after another PG from Nebraska. Looks like Bruce is going to mush some players again.

Brucie HAS to do something. - -now here is a coach in Basketball that might be pushing players out in Basketball & yet as I have read There are people who think that Coach Miles is just dis-respectful , no class as they say for recruiting over a commit in football - -offering more then what's available - sorry that's just the way it is - you recruit - -recruit - - recruit always looking for better right?

Really no different to me then like in football when a recruit verbals to a School such as KU and it is really no more then ya - ok I am committing and then they wait for the bigger fish to offer and then DE-COMMIT and leave a School hanging

But ya Brucie up to pushing people out. - -Are Scholi's still only good year to year ? - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

dylans said:

jayballer73 said:

tundrahok said:

dylans said:

Funny how a stubborn, unchanging man’s unwillingness to commit to one offensive style has people’s cockles up. Dude can’t win.

Except he's won 482 games at KU, 681 games overall as head coach.

and yet there are people that wanna challenge his decisions

Always will be, but I’m glad as long as it’s not ugly. Keeps it lively in here!

love lively- -just not TO lively lol

tundrahok said:

dylans said:

Funny how a stubborn, unchanging man’s unwillingness to commit to one offensive style has people’s cockles up. Dude can’t win.

Except he's won 482 games at KU, 681 games overall as head coach.

and yet there are people that wanna challenge his decisions

dylans said:

The problem is Dave is one of the 3 best players on the team. Bill has to get him minutes. Dok is the best player; he needs the most minutes possible. It’s hard to not pair them at some point during the game. Bill starts off that way to see how it goes then switches to a four guard lineup to feel it out. If KU has more than three good guards the 4-1 would be the obvious choice, but with the personnel it’s hard to be exclusive to one offensive set.

Funny how a stubborn, unchanging man’s unwillingness to commit to one offensive style has people’s cockles up. Dude can’t win.

Agree

Woodrow said:

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hmmm facts kind of seen to speak for themselves huh? we might not like it -- but who are we to ask I really think the 3-2 looks ugly a lot of times too but offensive tops big 12. - -guess you could look at THAT in two different ways though too , The Big 12 is pretty weak this year - hell I dunno we could go back and forth on these things all day I reckon

HighEliteMajor said:

I think that it is a very regular occurrence that coaches play to perform in March. Duke and UK are two that plainly have done that. Nova the same. Gary Parish was on with Soren Petro last week discussing the same topic. Parish was saying he isn’t smart enough to criticize Self but pointed out the clear contrast in approach.

I’m focused on the 4/1. Dave and Doke together are a disaster. Today was the outlier. Look at the +/- posted by @BeddieKU23 this past week.

Would you agree that the more you do something and have experience, the better you can be? The answer is obvious. In fact, there are Self quotes in the past few years about how getting game experience is very important. Which is obvious.

well with your reason that it is a very regular occurrence that Coach's play to preform in March and then point out UK, then I will again refer to UK since you was talking about that Bill had only won one National Championship , and I'm not saying that they don't but since you seem to bring up Kentucky as clearly playing that way again Has Kentucky won any more Championships then KU and Self? - -That would be big fat NO.

I think all teams in Basketball play to preform in March I mean isn't that the goal of the Season. Different teams play different ways. - You go with what is working for you - if it isn't working for you then you make a change. - Yesterday Dave and Doke worked Better , not great by any means but better then the other. Braun like they said looked timid again these last two three games he has been less & Tristian just looks totally lost right now to0. There are times Doke and Dave are disaster's then others they look playable , today was one of those days - looked better then the 4-1 TODAY. you play to match ups today was one of those days

HighEliteMajor said:

Right, but Self, myopically, plays him 4 today because of this useless game. How he sees winning today. This demonstrates the absurdity of the PT today. We have just one NC in his tenure. One NC in 32 years.

All we have to achieve that is of value is the NC. We’ve achieved everything else.

Right Bill has ONE National Championship in his tenure. Yet in Comparison , how many championships does Calipari have at Kentucky during his tenure there? - Seems like Bill's One National Championship is against Coach Cal when he was at Memphis wasn't it?

People seem to wanna think that they just hand these Championships out an a silver platter. - There are so many things that have to fall into place to win a Championship. - -including right combinations, who's playing the best ball at the time. It's a crap shoot. Can you imagine how the people at Kentucky feel? As many top tier 5 * recruits they have had there since Coach has been there, and only ONE National Championship. They should of have had at least 2-3 right?

Holy Bat Crap Batman ,man am I glad I didn't have to pay to see this. Conner McGregor. What can you say , this guy is a beast. 40 Seconds - - - FORTY SECONDS ! ! ! - is all it took last night to knockout Cowboy. - -MERCY , didn't even have time to pop a top.

Love this guy , got one bad attitude and it shows lol. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

BShark said:

@jayballer73 gotta hope for some internal improvement mostly. We gain Bryce but lose Moss. Braun, Wilson and Agbaji can make shots but we need them improved and healthy. Don't think Tyon is much of a shooter but he is a good player.

if we can get Ajbaji to improve and really work on his three this coming off season put him with Bryce , would be nice - there is times he just disappears though next year especially he can't disappear for sur, he will or should be one of the leaders his JR year. - -I have confidence I his 3 point shooting I think he will be fine. - He just going to have to work a little harder though to get that shot

approxinfinity said:

Cassius Stanley with the wide open airball 3 down 3 with 16 seconds left.

Cassius and Hurt is the two that kept duke from being blown off the floor. -- Cassius 24 points and Hurt 17

Stanley is a freak - really good come along way already this year. Hurt's defense is horrible. Anytime Louisville needed a hoop, they went to Hurts man ALOT

BShark said:

Tristan was awful when he played. He has been bad lately. I'm not surprised that two freshman are not consistent. I wish our bench was better.

hell about the only time I seen Tristian today was as just about as long it took for him to tie his shoe's lol

BShark said:

Next year we might finally have a full roster. Though Bill will mainly play 6-7 guys as always.

I'll just be glad to add a dam shooter.

Seen all kinds of examples about what we have been talking about on this from different players , different teams. - - countless players on Dunks letting out that scream - -bump chest - -didn't see ANYTHING wrong with that at all

Well guess I shouldn't be surprised .The results of today , the way things have gone. Been such a whacko season , like we have said there is by far no dominant team this year.

To help justify this season just stop and think about these things. -How often in the same year you see your bluebloods being beaten on they're home floor ? Duke beaten by who Stephen F Austin right ? Kentucky being beaten but Evansville. Then more craziness another blue blood being under 500 North Carolina 8-9 being beatin multiple times on their home floor 1-5 in league play 1-5 ! ! !

Let's just look at this weeks play for more. # 3 Duke beaten twice in the Same week ( how often does K and that happen to Duke? ) # 4 Auburn beaten twice this week. # 5 Butler being beaten twice this week

Need more to see just how crazy it's been this year ? today ? # 3 Duke # 4 Auburn # 5 Butler # 12 West Virginia # 16 Wichita State # 20 Colorado & # 21 Ohio State ALL lost today on top of that # * Oregon got really lucky had to go to overtime to get past Washington - -just insane things.

other things , this is the 1st time since 2004 that North Carolina has been under 500. # 4 & # 5 both lost to unranked teams today .

a Couple final things I observed. Mercy is Iisiah Stewart an absolute animal , one big boy , very talented for Washington and then another ol boy can't think of his last name at the minute , Guard for Oregon Peyton ? ? ? - -he is an absolute thug. - -He grabs , he clears out pushes off with his off arm to get a shot - -just ugly thug and yet they won't call it & some are blatent as hell - - CRAZY YEAR GUYS. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

boy we just struggle to score 8 minutes plus without a field goal. - -that simply can not happen. - -26 points in a half lordy

Woodrow said:

Lucky to be down 5 I guess. Not too confident though. That was a pretty uninspiring effort.

No clue why Dotson disappeared for 15 minutes.

you wanna talk about disappearing? - where the hell has Oachji disappeared to ? - -he has done nothing - -again. what's going on there he has got to step up