kjayhawks said:
Wow Kentucky is spanking Tennessee like they stole something.
Kentucky starting to look scary GOOD
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Crimsonorblue22 said:
@approxinfinity he won't transfer. Either stay, enter draft or go overseas
Exactly
KUSTEVE said:
Dotson/Ochai/KJ/Dedric/Big Dave .....I think that would be the sweet spot.
I've always thought KJ was a little better then being given credit for. - -Think w are now starting to see a more relaxed KJ - - - quality minutes -- instead of mop up - I think KJ can help for sure in the remainder of the season
I'm liking the chemistry of this team - -the way minutes are being used now-c - -I say let's roll with these - -think team is finding it's self with the way Bill is now rolling the offense. -- Pulling Dedric out on the floor? - - Very nice
approxinfinity said:
@HighEliteMajor I have to agree. At this point the Grimes experiment as a starter should be over.
The kid's shot is erratic. I dont see a confidence issue on his shot. I see a guy incapable of playing off ball. A player who is not comfortable with the catch and shoot and needs reps reps reps and more reps. Hell, I see a kid who might have benefited tremendously from a redshirt in an alternate universe. And with the emergency of Agbaji and Devon in their current form, what good is a wing who can't shoot and is slow on D? Devon, Agbaji and Garrett are all superior to Grimes in every way, save maybe one small point which is at this point splitting hairs. I believe Grimes is a superior passer (slightly) to Agbaji, but who cares? Earlier I was willing to see Grimes at point, but Devon is just too good there now. All ships have sailed on the Grimes experiment.
Charlie has even outplayed Grimes recently. I would not be shocked by a Q transfer in the off-season.
OH I would agree with MOST of what you said - - BUT your Point about Charlie -- -oh hell no - no way- - no shape - - no form - -Charlie is not close to Q - - Q can play like he has been and STILL be better. - - Charlies shot selection at times look really suspect - -I mean he just launches - -very unaware of time on the clock - -where he is on the floor - - the scenario situation of game situation - -na just not happening.
Q is not transferring - - if anything he will be another idiot that would go ahead and try to go NBA - -which he is not even within a sniff of right now - that would be the worse mistake he could make -BUT he would never transfer to another College and have to sit a year -- He either goes ahead and tires to play in NBA - which he would never make it at this stage -- -OR - -he will come back to KU. - -Hell chances are a lot better for Charlie to transfer if anyone does that then Q - - plus as we know NBA drafts on Potential. - I respect your opinion but mine - - NO WAY is Charlie better then Quentin Grimes
Question. When Marcus comes back - -does this effect Dave and Mitch in any way shape or Form? in the rotation ? - -for me - - I think w just need to roll with the way we are right now -- Keep that starting line up just like it is -- rotate your players just like you have been - -Just slide Marcus in the rotation. - -I would hate to think KJ minutes gets cut when Marcus returns - let Marcus come off the Bench right along with KJ - - - Marcus can play the 2 or 3- - - lets roll with what we got as they are. - -ROC CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
kjayhawks said:
I'm really starting to like this David/Mitch combo at the 5. I've been one of the guys screaming for Dave to get more minutes all season and think we are seeing it start to it pay off. He had some TOs again today but to me looks more comfortable every game he's in. Nice to see Dedric didn't have to carry us for once but still had a solid game.
I agree with ya - - - -The combination of Mitch & Dave - nothing super from them but you put the two together get like 15 points combined -- -right at 10 rebounds - - like 5 blocks a charge from guess who -a couple of steals ( David ) - really liking Coach Pull Dedric out away - and like they say opening the lane for Devon - spreading out - - Dedric hitting a lot better pct from 3 for Dedric - -love it
We shoot 53 % from the field - - 8-20 from the 3 - - and 14-18 from the line - I can live with those numbers
BShark said:
Love the game from KJ today, he was solid. Dotson with 15/5/8, good stuff.
just saying I don't think KJ is that bad - -he has limited minutes until injuries and player leaving - for the most part he had been in on mop up time - -I think he is showing he can help. -- I just keep looking back when he was at Memphis had pretty solid numbers.
I realize Memphis is not Big 12 - still - he is not that bad - like the looks of the team - showing that different look - -seems like players are showing up a little more
kind of having to agree with what Ol Frannie is having to say - -I myself am liking this new look - hell playing 5 out - -and then sliding Dedric down deep some times - - Mitch and Dave coming along - Mitch with a block - - Dave - with a couple of blocks - -
Had some people throwing shade at KJ earlier in the year - -don't really think that was fair he wasn't getting a lot of minutes - -but since that has increased I think he is feeling more comfortable not forcing - he has been playing solid - -hell even Quentin looks he might been doing some things a little better. - -I realize ya it's WV -these poor guys are just DEPLETED - -over all guysI think we are starting to come a bit - -might be small but last couple of games - -seeing some things -Next Saturday is gonna be HUGE
Seen kind of interesting line today. - -They saying that Duke is looking to beat NC State for the 1st time since 2016 - -who would of thunk it lmao. -- ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Kcmatt7 said:
Ribs in the smoker, I'm on the couch the rest of the day. I just wish the KSU vs ISU game was on at a different time than ours. The TCU vs OU game isn't doing it for me.
Really bad loss for TCU & Jamie. - - losing at home - not a good look. - -Welp said Okla absolutely had to have it - -still don't think Okla has any business even being considered for the Tourney. Did find it interesting that whoever saying that KU is - - Oklahoma's best shot at beating at 41.5 % only other team according to whatever this came from only better chance was to beat WV - -crazy
Got a Couple of Questions guys. -- 1st: - - How many here think Danny is in some serious trouble at being let go? - -I'm afraid he very easily could be out - -getting their ass kicked today by N Carolina -- last I saw it was 68-34 - Would be nice to have him back as an ast working with the Big men - - but don't think that's going to happen - yet I think he is done at Wake after this year - -how do you al feel?
2nd - -Does smart make it another season at Texas? - -I'm not sure about him either. -- ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Hawk8086 said:
@jayballer73 If ISU does not beat KSU today....I think the streak is over. I hope you are right..but you have to admit, the purple pussycats have answered every call of late.
ya I'm with you -I mean I'm getting a pretty strong vibe about them goin in and winning today - -but then again THAT might be from what I ate last night lol - - -No seriously - -I just really think ISU has a really good shot - they have incentive in multiple ways - -they had K-Straight come to Hilton and beat them - they would love to return the favor -- they have a chance of having their own share of the title and over all I just think in all reality - ISU has by far overall better talent.
I think K-Straight just caught ISU in a bad day and was able to sneak away got lucky - -quite possible not so much todayk.
Gorilla72 said:
@jayballer73 - even if NCAA strips it, KU still won. Nobody can change the facts...
Exactly - -we will know - -even though it won't be reconized. -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Texas Hawk 10 said:
kjayhawks said:
On the games themselves, ISU @ KSU is pretty much an elimination game for the Cyclones. If they drop that one, they have no shot at a title. OU @ TCU is game that I think knocks OU from the dance if lost. OSU @ Texas, easily a must win for Texas and their post season hopes. Baylor @ TT is another elimination game for the loser in terms of the conference race. Us at home against WV is a must win for our conference hopes.
OU and Texas won't make it. UT probably enters the tournament with at least 14 or 15 losses. OU is already at 9 losses in B12 play, they won't make the tournament either.
B12 is a 5 or 6 bid league this year. KU, KSU, ISU, TTU, and Baylor are pretty much locks at this point. TCU is team on the fence in B12.
Well put my friend - just NO way - -NO fricken way OU even deserves consideration - - and yet you watch we go down there and they play out their butts and pull that stunner and really put the screws to us -- like WV
BeddieKU23 said:
Agbaji and Dotson are my favorites as well. Hopefully we have another year with these two to fully appreciate them. Its unlikely we get 4 from either so I'm going to enjoy them while we get them.
I agree here - -I think we will have both next year - - anything after that would be Gravy. - -If Agbaji continues to improve like he has blasted onto the scene - -actually I think he quite possibly leaves BEFORE Devon and you know how much I like Devon - and it's not a knock against him - -just think Agbaji goes 1st - -probably 2 & 3 year players - man these two are really good -- ALREADY. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DA Y LONG BABY
Texas Hawk 10 said:
Go Cyclones tomorrow!
exactly - yet you watch K-Straight will get fricken lucky somehow - -I tell you what though if - ISU is hitting the trey's - -and get out and run - it could go South for K-Straight in a hurry - but probably won't happen - -or if ISU can get Wade in trouble - - Brown is playing out his ass right now - beyond his talent- if we lost our streak to them straight up - then I wouldn't mind so much but there are things with this that just suck - - ya some of this we brought on ourself - -I truly think if we had Doke we would be at 2 losses instead of 4 - -WV - -& K-State - -let's hope we get that chance - -we just/must win out
DanR said:
When the pressure is on, things can and have happened at this point in the past 14 years.
If we win the rest (doable), we'll at least get a share of the title, IMO. I think we've gone through the growing pains.
If we win the rest and KSU somehow wins all of their games (except for KU in Lawrence), then they deserve it. I still think they'll screw at least one game up if not a total meltdown before it's over.
If that played out - -we would share the title and we ourselves KU fans could continue to count or consectitive championships - -BUT the good ol NCAA strips us - -BUT we will know - -kind of sucks but. -- ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
kjayhawks said:
@bcjayhawk No problem cheering against KSU for me, regardless of whom they play lol. Man the WV game that we flatout gave away is killer right now, still ticks me off when I think about it.
I know -- mercy - -that is YMCA - phase 2
bcjayhawk said:
kjayhawks said:
On the games themselves, ISU @ KSU is pretty much an elimination game for the Cyclones. If they drop that one, they have no shot at a title. OU @ TCU is game that I think knocks OU from the dance if lost. OSU @ Texas, easily a must win for Texas and their post season hopes. Baylor @ TT is another elimination game for the loser in terms of the conference race. Us at home against WV is a must win for our conference hopes.
@kjayhawks Vegas currently has:
TCU by 5-1/2 over OU;
TX by 11-1/2 over OSU;
TTU by 8 over BU;
KSU by 2 over ISU;
KU by 15 over WVU.Obviously it's hours before these games tip and line may change. I hate routing for ISU, but you do what you have to:fingers_crossed_tone2: :pray_tone2:
I just feel ISU ha a score to settle , I for sure they ISU is more talented - -I think if they play like capable Lard and what's the other Big Robertson? - -na that's not it - but unless Lard is in they play that 5 out spread the floor - - - they have talent for sure - -sometimes they just use no sense jacking up ill advised shots - - -Norton is a very good player - -Wigginton can be very good when he wants - -they have a lot of good players - -I still don't get KSU -man I have a real hard time believing they can win this thing - - such ugly - - ugly ball really hard to watch - -I just think ISU takes them tomorrow - -hell KSU fans don't even know how to fire up right
kjayhawks said:
On the games themselves, ISU @ KSU is pretty much an elimination game for the Cyclones. If they drop that one, they have no shot at a title. OU @ TCU is game that I think knocks OU from the dance if lost. OSU @ Texas, easily a must win for Texas and their post season hopes. Baylor @ TT is another elimination game for the loser in terms of the conference race. Us at home against WV is a must win for our conference hopes.
I dunno man -- - I think - - I really do think that ISU goes in and knocks them off guy- - -we still need to take care of our own business and let the other play out - - Next Saturday I think is THE Monster weekend - -we have just GOT to find a way to win that, That is the most difficult game I believe to win that's remaining for us - wouldn't it be crazy if we could some how - - someway pull this out - -it's looking kind of bleak right now but if things fall the right way - -it's all game on. - -not sure where your at buddy - but if you in the snow - -you stay safe - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
kjayhawks said:
ISU has to win for us to have any shot at winning the conference out right and really a whole lot of a chance of winning it at all. It is very interesting that right now most have 8 big 12 teams and I just don't see it. Oklahoma as you said shouldn't even be on the radar IMO and Texas is skating on thin ice, they have some good wins but some terrible losses, if they would've beaten KSU last week, I'd say they were in solid shape. OU has 3 wins in conference crazy that they are even on the bubble.
I agree with you 1000000 % on Oklahoma bud- -- I just don't get it. - -How could they even be in any kind of consideration. - -If THEY do make it - -that is a joke - -if they make it in - -teams like that Water the tourney down soooo bad - -they just don't look good. - - What is their SOS - - Texas is in a Must win scenario to stay in the talk - -I dunno guys just crazy
They Talking about this: - - - Who do we think this weekend games are the most important to win for - a almost have to have this win: - -- Okla - -TCU - - - KU- -West Virg Baylor - - Texas Tech - - - - -OR K-State Iowa State ? - -Now we are talking for NCAA tourney.
Yes they know -- I know like and agree Oklahoma at 3-9 in conference SHOULD NOT even be in any kind of option for the NCAA - -yet their they sit as one of the last four in - -just insane ,
So would like to hear who you say - -we could also apply this as far as Confernece Championship goes - -who needs this win this weekend the worst to stay in the race?
I'll go 1st as far as the NCAA goes: - -it just has to be Oklahoma hands down right? - -they shouldn't even be considered BUT - -HAS TO BE Oklahoma - -I guess as long as we are talking about the NCAA tourney you would have to say that Texas NEEDS to win their game against Oklahoma State to have any chance -right?
As far as the league the one that needs this weekend the most I think would be probably TCU - - ok talk to me
Here is the million dollar question for me. - - - -IF we are found guilty - -and there are sanctions - -IS there such a thing as a Clean Coach - - Do they even exist & please don't come and say K from Duke is clean -we all know that's a line of crap? - - -surely there HAS TO BE a Coach that can coach a good team without all the Bullshit
I for one am so tired of all of the this and that's - that's been happening with and around this program in the last like 5 years or so - All I want is ONE free drama less smooth going Basketball season with out academic issues -- illegal activities and so on and so on
If we get hit - -then we gonna get hit in recruiting - -hard -- -really hard - this whole FBI scandal has already cost us with multiple players I think - -and if we get hit with sanctions & Scandal & strippings of Conference championships - -stripped of final fours - -these kids gonna run like a striped ass ape
Also the big question - -and don't come throwing shade when I ask it - -as I KNOW others are thinking about it possibly - maybe just not the chones to ask because they don't want to take shade for asking and being called traitor - - fair weather fans - I think it is a legit question -- So IF and again I said IF if this truly comes around where we are hit post ban from the NCAA tourney stripped of titles and final fours - - IF -- IF - - IF Self did indeed of having knowledge or he was fully engaged himself - -do you think the University may ask him to step down? - or fired ? - -it IS a legit question - -not trying to be called a fair weather fan or hater - -cause you ought to fricken know that's not it at all - -whether you like it or not - -it's a question that is a fair question - I don't want to see this come to that BUT it could happen
Man storm coming on the horizon - - just be prepared - -I hate this - -this crap sucks - but reality is - - REALITY. - -I think someone on the staff knew things and now has got caught - Not necessarily Self but SOMEONE now the University in the end will end up being the sacrafical lamb for the NCAA - I personally think it's gonna be bad - already heard us being called Cheater U.
Like may jay said I think we are stripped of our Final 4 - -our conference title - and postseason ban when all said and done. - - If things turn out and we are hit for playing an enligible player - -then dam. - -
I almost feel like I would rather just back away from players that have handlers - - -guardians - anything of that type that smells - -shady. - -It just seem like go ahead recruit those 5 stars that a so squeaky clean - they squeak when they walk - -other then those then almost rather recruit the developmental players - -players you know gonna be here 3-4 years -- look what happened with Frank & Devonte - -absolute steals - -hardly recruited at all by majors - - look how they turned out - - Recruit the Braun's - -the McBride's - - - the Ochai's - I would rather almost take that chance - - I know people gonna say we have to recruit the 5's - and I agree - but we have just GOT to learn to stay away from the iffy type just seems that you mess with the fire - - you gonna get burnt.
I'm afraid in the coming months - -it's gonna get dark - really dark for the program - -and while there are other NIKE schools that need their just due - they will get the slap at most while we get hug out to dry. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
@dylans -that is almost laughable , when their talking about Les being a bad hire - - I think your right , I think they are worried their days of owning KU in football is over. - -Les is a great hire - -it seems he assembled a really good group of assistants in the Coaching aspect , and the class that he landed in the amount of time he had was pretty dam good I think.
But ya, again their style just makes my stomach knot - -just boring basketball and pretty simple and I STILL just believe that they will come back down to earth. - -I know it sounds stupid when yes they are on top Right now - - and ya maybe - - maybe they do win it this year - -doesn't change that it is really ugly how they play - -and like you said even their own fans don't watch , they will come crashing back - -it's just we just really have to take care of our business and win and then take the results. - If any of these other teams can't take care of their business then K-Straight will win the Conference.
I do still feel that they will lose two more games in conference. I think they pounding their chest a little to hard right now. - -I think we get them in the phog - - and then I truly believe Iowa State goes in to Manhattan and beats them -we will see but I truly believe they STILL gonna have 4 league losses. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
You know I was sitting there watching -- well trying to watch K-Straight last night , and man it just pains me to try and sit and watch them - -It is all I can do. They just play such an ugly brand of basketball not even really sure what it is = =just ugly - -well at least to me/boring - come down and milk the clock down to almost 7-8 seconds if not less on almost every possession - then ending up breaking it down from some one as a one on one play drive - -hate it - -boring - I understand I guess ya they have a decent team - -but I just don't ge it - -trying to sit and watch them - -just makes me want to get up and go to the frig pull out that bottle of Bourbon take another shot and regain myself.
I think on the offensive end for them right now -- they are living in a fantasy land - - a dream - -they playing over their heads they NORMALLY are NOT that good on the offensive end - -the last 5-6 games they have had to be dream walking - sooner then later they are going to revert back to their typical offensive ways , whether it be in the regular season - Or post season - I've seen it too many times where they have gone 8 even 9 minutes can't score at all - - if at all. - -I'm trying to find something - -other then the defense - -I'm just not getting it with this team K-State
BShark said:
jayballer73 said:
Has to be the most insane statement of the decade - - -A individual saying that they want to see Charlie More on the floor much more then Dotson - How Charlie is a much better ball player.
Hmmmm - -things that make you say - - " Houston - -we have a problem " -- This is ground control to Major Toung - 4 -- -3 - --2 - -1
Man I'd give anything to be smoking whatever this idiot was - -some really good shit -- put the pipe down and slowly back away - -I swear do some think about what they are saying before they say it - - -Charlie Moore better - - REALLY ?
lol - - -VERY NICE LOL. -- rock chalk all day long baby
Texas Hawk 10 said:
Kcmatt7 said:
How on Earth does UT keep Shaka after this season?
They don't give a rat's ass about basketball. That's why it took nearly a decade to finally find a location for a new basketball arena and why said arena will only have a 10,000 seat capacity for basketball.
MAN HOW COULD YOU PLAY IN A PLACE LIKE THAT? - -I MEAN tEXAS FANS ENEREGY LEVEL LIKE WATCHING A tennis MATCH -- tEXAS SCORE AND GET A NICE POLITE SMATTTEING APPLAUSE - YOU HEAR THAT
Crimsonorblue22 said:
@jayballer73 I'm not
well ya lol -- but your different lol. -- ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
DanR said:
@mayjay they won on a reviewed call that would have been a charge for the past 100 years
I didn't watch the final like minute - -did it come down to that?
@Crimsonorblue22 no he doesn't have to take it- - - he called me sir lmao
wissox said:
@jayballer73 Nothing wrong with me. You totally mis read my comment and then didn't understand my explanation. I did call you sir just so you wouldn't get upset
ok sir you can have the last word - it's ok -- but now I'm going to bed - -watching Louisville just wet themselves made me really tired -- -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
mayjay said:
God, was Louisville bad in the last 6 mins. Stupidest sign seen since the KSU "date" sign: ZION CAN'T DUNK
ya I saw that sign too , I was thinking to myself- -man when Zion bounces that ball off your head after power flush - -he hands the sign back and says -- HERE'S YOUR SIGN - -beyond stupid
mayjay said:
Duke won.
Are you serious? - -well Louisville just became the butt of all jokes in basketball for awhile - - up 23 at home and then this
mayjay said:
Texas looked great compared to the 23 pt collapse by UL tonite. Tied. 45 secs left.
ya I was watching that too - - - Louisville swallowed their shoe's I think - -they just flat got intimidates from about the 8 minute mark
wissox said:
@jayballer73 Calm down sir. I was simply carrying on the junior highish theme of this thread. I don't like to see kids hurt unless their name is Grayson. Can we now resume with scatalogical references?
what is wrong with you ? - -nobody upset here v- - learn to take things in content man - -not out of it - can A guy not joke around here - -holy smoke man lol take a chill pill ok
Has to be the most insane statement of the decade - - -A individual saying that they want to see Charlie More on the floor much more then Dotson - How Charlie is a much better ball player.
Hmmmm - -things that make you say - - " Houston - -we have a problem " -- This is ground control to Major Toung - 4 -- -3 - --2 - -1
Man I'd give anything to be smoking whatever this idiot was - -some really good shit -- put the pipe down and slowly back away - -I swear do some think about what they are saying before they say it - - -Charlie Moore better - - REALLY ?
wissox said:
I don't give a crap if a KSU player got hurt.
Ha - - -did I ask you if you did or not ? roflmao- - I'm simply stating that NOT just KSU - -I'm looking at the BROAD RASH - -of injuries as a total all across the BIg twelve - -Just as I'm sure these others could give a rats as about our injuries roflmao
Guys now stop and think about this , - - I mean MAN seems like this league has been hit really hard with Injuries this year. - - - -TCU - -missing Fisher - KU with Doke out ALL year - - Garrett out at 4 games and counting - - - - Konate - for West Virginia - - out for the year ( Knee (- - also missing Beetle Bolden ) - - - K- State out now with Diaerra. - -- Dean Wade out for some time for K-State also - -let's see who else? - -seems like I'm missing someone - -crazy - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
guys , just heard this on my local sports talk show -- if you stop and think about this - -it's, insane - -you talk about a Steal - -we got one ok check this out:
Ok, according to the Ken Pom ratings: -- This has to do regarding Offensive Ratings efficiency which includes - - - rebounding - - -scoring - - -assists - -they are saying according to KenPom - -if Ochai qualified - -but he doesn't say you have to play in like 28% of the games - - IF he qualified he would be Ranked 6th in offensive efficiency/rating - -Not in the Big 12 - -BIT in the COUNTRY - the entire Country - -that's insane - -we got a REAL steal here - -and yet we were going to red shirt this guy. - -How crazy is that? -got to love i. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Has ANYBODY heard anything at all on Hurt's recruiting since his visit to KU? - -I think his OV'S are over right? - -I thought he might of mentioned SOMETHING by now - -but been pretty quiet. -how is people feeling? - -I still think we got a good shot - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
OH soooo -- you mean KU ISN'T the only team where things happen and things are brought up about someone being raped? - -ahh that can't be right can it ?- - NOt A DUKE Player - -I'm sure ESPN will take care of it - - I mean it's DUKE for GOD'S sake 0 that can't be right.
Now letting everyone know here -- I AM NOT in any way shape or form making light of this , where some woman has possibly been raped by this Duke former player - total bullshit if that happened - -
What I am trying to imply no matter how feeble it may come across - - All I'm trying to say is - - -DUKE? - -get ready for the ESPN cover up - -they will fix this for DUKE - -I mean re are talking Duke - -the holier then thou - -not to worry ESPN - - -ESPN announcers - - Jay Bilas - - - Seth Greenberg - - and DICKY V -- oh my GOD - DICKY V I mean will just be wettin all over himself - - -NOT A DUKE CONNECTION to something really bad took place - - break out the wallets - sush money. - - ROCK CHALKALL DAY LONG BABY
user_RCJH said:
I see KJ getting ragged on quite a bit here. IMO, it’s completely unwarranted. What I saw last night, was a calming presence on the court when it mattered most. Obviously it was a team effort, but we do not win that game last night without KJ. I think he could be a solid 6th man next year. In college, he’s a stretch 3. He's always has played in the shadow of DL and defers to him on the court unequivocally. When he does hunt his shot, he’s pretty effficent. I mean look at the stat sheet last night 16 min 4-6 on the floor, 2-2 from the line, 10 points 3 boards 0 To 0 pf. How is he the worst guy on a scholly? Curious to see what his development would be next year without DL. Regardless, I’d like to see him get more minutes, like at least 10-15 a game. He’s efficient and when the game was on the line, he seemed unfazed by the moment.
I couldn't agree more with everything you have said. - -The way I look at it - all we have seen is some spot minutes from KJ - -some games None at all. - -people are watching and gauging him off very limited minutes. - I don't think KJ is our worst player by far - -I think far from that.
I think we got more of a REAL look what KJ can do in extended minutes like last night- -he get's a few minutes during rag tag time at the ends of the games lots of turnovers - -quick shots kind of hard to see the true play of a player - KJ brings things to the table- -I can only hope possibly he will start seeing the floor a little more. - - Actually here again he is even possibly a better option then our Marcus - -NOW I'm talking Offensively - -again Offensively - -I admit defensively not even close to Marcus - -but at least here again when KJ is on the floor - -teams have to play more straight up can't slack off as much- - Now people can tell me I'm wrong -- that's fine but I'll stick to he IS NOT our worst player by any means. -- - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
kjayhawks said:
@approxinfinity I am, his size isn't what they want at the next level unfortunately for him. I bet hes here 3 years, at least I hope.
actually Devon is 6'2 - -bigger then Frank and we see what happened there -- if Frank can make it - -Devon can also - - having said that I DO think Devon comes back next year , anything after that will be gravy , if he continues to progress next year like he has this 1 st year - -umm ya - -at this point I'd say without hesitation that Devon is further along then Frank was during his Freshmen year by quite a bit - -I just think right now at this present time - -there is probably with pretty quite sure confidence that Devon is here for 3 years -- and fir sure no chance 4. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
kjayhawks said:
@BShark I'm glad we only have 1 game in the next 12 days. Hopefully Garrett is back by then. I'd stay with this line up and let him come off the bench tho.
Me too. - -nothing really against Garrett at all , love his defense and we need that , but I just think with him in the starting rotation that his offensive or lack of I should say is just another negative to try and over come -- would just fall back to where it is like 4-5 on the offensive end as other teams just so no respect on his J at all. - I mean even as bad as Q has been I think I'd STILL take him as in starting rotation because other teams still play him straight up, just think this starting line up is a better fit- - I still feel that like the chances of Q finally busting out of this almost season long shooting slump compared to Garrett finding any kind of shooting touch -- is much better. - -Again I'm not trying to knock Marcus Garrett it's just that - his shot is just ugly and their gonna double Dedric for sure when Marcus is there - -but he is a very good relief/backup -- ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
@BeddieKU23 As of this minute , it would be such a HUGE mistake for Q to leave but as we know we are dealing with what? - -18-19 yr old kids at Q's present time right? - As I and I think most know or have heard the NBA drafts of potential - -so I'm sure that's in his parents mind AND his.
Just a side thought I don't know but maybe Quentin just has never fully connected or invested 100% into College basketball , totally buying into the idea and had in his head that he wasn't going to be here after this year anyways , so he didn't fully connect with the team or program , and when he started to struggle those thoughts became stronger - -frustration grew and now - - - -,?
Who knows. Could be - - I've also heard people mention also that maybe in reality - -Quentin just might be in the wrong program - -just not a good fit - -guess we fans for sure can't make that decision as much as he needs to come back - -should come back , I mean I'd take him for sure a 2nd year - -I just have this feel he won't be back. By this point I'm sure or I think mom and dad are probably supporting him and even telling him -- stick it out through this year and then declare - -again NBA is all about potential - -I dunno. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
BShark said:
BeddieKU23 said:
I have no issue with KJ most of the time. He has his weaknesses as we have all seen. I haven't seen anything saying so but I'd like to know whether he is on track to graduate this yr given it's his 4th yr in College. That could factor into his own decision if his brother does leave. We saw how the Morris twins left together. The Martin twins at Nevada stayed even though one would probably be drafted but the other wouldn't. So theres a history of brothers sticking together and either staying or going as a package. I only gave a few examples but I think its difficult for those who are used to spending every day together and then bam one goes off on their own. Usually doesnt happen from what I've seen. Do we even land Dedric if we didnt take KJ?
Well said. I'd be fine w/ KJ on the team next year but it feels unlikely.
Well not 100 % sure but from what I had heard is that KJ will graduate this year for sure on track. I've heard the chance more likely then not would be when Dedric leaves KJ will also be leaving. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY