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More bad news β€’ Aug 02, 2017 10:19 PM

Lawson is missing some really good roast horse in Italy.

Garrett Rising β€’ Aug 02, 2017 04:33 PM

6-5 180 pound 4?

In which Self tries to light a fire under Cunliffe.

Next.

K-State gives up, hire weber to 2012. β€’ Aug 02, 2017 01:28 AM

@mayjay

And did it with spare parts!

Haven't read this yet, but plan to. Retired US Army officer Macgregor builds on previous books emphasizing increased mobility. A serious critic of using military to pursue evil doers and corporate agendas. Definitely supports Trump in cutting ties with trying to win Syria with ISIS as our proxie army, or sending more troops in. A Syrian civil war is not a threat to our national security, says he. Says we have spent nearly 25 years bankrupting ourselves digging holes chasing evil doers in places that do not improve US national security. Troops arrive and quickly realize they aren't fighting for American national security. Efffectiveness declines. Military degenerates. Maybe the new Powell doctrine and Smedley Butler combined. Only fight wars where our national security is at stake and instead of bringing overwhelming force, bring overwhelmingly mobile force able to exit any time. https://www.amazon.com/Margin-Victory-Battles-Changed-Modern/dp/1612519962 β†—

K-State gives up, hire weber to 2012. β€’ Aug 02, 2017 12:21 AM

@wrwlumpy

This makes Bruce the longest tenured interim head coach ever!!!!

KU should have agreed to pay his salary to keep him at KSU, if it had proven necessary!!!!

More bad news β€’ Aug 01, 2017 03:52 PM

@KUSTEVE

Yee hawww!

Ask and ye shall receive!!!!!!

Here is a link to an interesting list of reputedly documented false flag terror events.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/false-flag-terrorism-isnt-a-theory-its-admitted-and-widespread/5601511 β†—

The website appears the work of a Canadian professor with a Marxist lean that has reputedly long worked to point out the dangers of globalization. Despite the thick irony of a Marxist complaining about globalization, when Marx, Lenin and Trotsky advocated global revolution (though to be fair the blood thirsty Stalin flatly opposed the idea of global revolution and cruelly exiled or murdered many for continuing to advocate such ) , I am posting it because we Americans in the current era of apparent subterfuge by foreign and domestic players need to become better informed and more savvy about the apparently not infrequent tactic of false flagging to drive public opinion into positions it would not otherwise be expected to support.

I hate false flagging, same as I hate Marxism, but political and military strategists of many ideologies seem to engage it. Very sobering, even if only half were true.

Why Big Lies Work in Propaganda β€’ Aug 01, 2017 06:22 AM

"I live in the real world where facts count and unproven allegations and rumors don’t."
@JayHawkFanToo

"I'm right fallacy" violation.

Well this sucks β€’ Aug 01, 2017 06:11 AM

@Texas-Hawk-10

Why were there so many coaching changes in football?

What was it that made KU leadership unable to recognize what they had in Kennedy, or Yost?

Why was KU able to find continuity in track and basketball, but not football?

KU was among the early public universities to build a large football/track stadium, whereas KU waited half a century to build a big arena for basketball. Did the discontent over what many called Phog's Folly--the building of Memorial Stadium--lead to distrust and fragmented support of football? If so, why didn't the same happen to track? And was basketball better off being forced to live within its means for so long?

It's a fascinating issue.

The Big Ten conference football schools were not rocked by the Populist Party movement the way Oklahoma and Kansas were.

I've wondered if if the brutal crack down on Populism in Kansas had some effect, but Oklahoma football has prospered.

Still, the states of Oklahoma and Kansas were constituted differently, and Kansas was the rail hub and OKLAHOMA was not, so the crack down was done differently in each state. Oklahoma was a company state created by the Mellons to pump oil in a quid pro quo for leaving Texas to the Rockefellers and Brits. Thus in Oklahoma it was the Mellons vs the Populists with the Mellons holding all the cards. But Kansas had a more complex legacy from the complexity of its birth, and Kansas was the rail hub. Populists got greater control of Kansas, and Kansas being the rail hub of the nation, the crack down had to be both more severe and no local autonomy of institutions could be permitted. In modern words, Kansas had to be destabilized and convulsed to make sure it never again became independent of the military and railroads and private oligarchy of that time, when USA was migrated to an imperial empire with the Spanish-American War of 1898. The states of that era that formed the Big Ten and that became football powers, nor the state of Oklahoma, that produced many great football programs, were never convulsed and subjugated as Kansas was.

Did football require a more sovereign, cohesive and affluent local oligarchy than Kansas possessed at that time to build sustained success in what was a vastly more expensive sport to be successful at than basketball?

It's conspicuous that Neither KU , nor KSU ever produced a great football program until the modern era with Bill Snyder. It was like there was something lacking in Kansas high school sports and in Kansas' two university's commitment to the capital intensive sport of football. KSU never got a modern stadium till the late 1960s. KU built one early but it became a controversial white elephant for several decades.

Is it just luck of the draw on coaching hires, or something rooted in culture and history? Kansas flourshed and picked and held the right coaches in a low overhead sport, but not in a high overhead one.

Interesting subject.

Well this sucks β€’ Aug 01, 2017 03:44 AM

@Texas-Hawk-10

THIS JUST MEANS BRAIN DAMAGE BALL WAS PRE-CREATED TO KEEP KU BASKETBALL FANS FROM HUBRIS!

I'm curious about you explanation why KU BRAIN DAMAGE BALL has been such an exercise in futility for even longer than KU basketball has been great?

Naismith was supposedly fond of football, and played it well, even though I recall he thought track and field was the greatest of the sports.

Some Good News β€’ Aug 01, 2017 03:28 AM

@Statmachine

Vick could have a great acting career in Hollywood playing homocidal maniacs with that stare!

Self likes characters.

Looks like he's got one in Vick!

Note: I'm sure Vick is just mugging for the camera.

I'm looking for Vick to be a stellar player this season.

More bad news β€’ Aug 01, 2017 03:22 AM

@KUSTEVE

I've always felt Laimbeer, bad as he was, was a light weight compared to Latrell Sprewell and Ron Artest and Dennis Rodman, especially once Rodman figured out he could spike his earnings with theatrical bad boy play. Rodman in Chicago mode was really appalling!!! Laimbeer necktieing players is one thing, but Rodman doing his version of a rodeo clown from coke town, as choreographed by Madonna at every foul shot, plus the assaults of players, coaches and fans of the other guys is just such pure disgracing of the game that it makes Laimbeer seem like a punk-lite.

I wonder if there are feeds of Artest, Sprewell and Rodman floating around? Those were some really rotten old days!

I also wonder if feeds of Charles Barkley reputedly spitting on the little girl in the baseline seats are still around, or if they have been moved down the memory hole?

Those were NOT the good old days!

Well this sucks β€’ Jul 31, 2017 06:35 PM

KU football was created to keep KU basketball fans from hubris.

Balls twisted up by dad β€’ Jul 31, 2017 06:30 PM

How about a National Basketball Hall of Lame Parents with the first inductees being Fathers Ball and Henry?

Some Good News β€’ Jul 31, 2017 06:22 PM

Maybe this is not the Oak Hill the NCAA has come to know and submit to.

Maybe this is Alt-Oak Hill?

Or Oak Hill Pop-Up?

Or Pin Oak Hill and not just Oak Hill?

Or have the Neocons and Neolibs both paid for by the same untraceable Fed money embedded themselves at Oak Hill to destabilize recruiting?

More bad news β€’ Jul 31, 2017 06:15 PM

Ded Richard Lawson, meet the resolve of Sgt. Self, the steps of Allen Field House and Hudy's enhanced regimen she leaves behind, while sunning herself in Amalfi.

Ten bucks says Self found a :rofl: on his cell phone from Tubby today.

Bagley reclassifying β€’ Jul 31, 2017 02:02 PM

@AsadZ

Thanks for the link!

Bagley reclassifying β€’ Jul 30, 2017 02:46 AM

AsadZ said:

I read that a Big (footer)...

Are you referring here to a seven footer, or a Sasquatch, or both?

Rock Chalk!!!!

Bagley reclassifying β€’ Jul 30, 2017 02:43 AM

jSPN fake sports news service...

Dateline: Somewhere in Central America...

jSPN stringers in Central America have virtually penetrated the holographic compound of software magnate John McAfee and have learned that he virtually commented to a fake sports writer on his impenetrably encrypted cell phone (the one McAfee announced May 17th, 2017) that he has learned exactly where Bags will sign, and that McAfee was as a result attacked at Freedom Fest by the Deep State for keeping knowledge of Bags destination impenetrably encrypted and so beyond the reach of the Deep State. jSPN stringers also say that chemtrails consisting of the usual aluminum oxide and barium cocktail mix were sprayed and excited with directed energy to create the holographic illusion of McAfee stumbling and falling with no one around. In fact, Melissa McCarthy in Sean Spicer drag was recruited by the Deep State to run over McAfee in her mobile powered lectern and escaped without notice. jSPN stringers are continuing to investigate a lead that suggests the existence of an Alt-Deep State masterminding the illusion.

(Note: All fiction. No malice.)

Bagley reclassifying β€’ Jul 29, 2017 07:21 AM

@HawkChamp

I don't want to fly under false colors. I was kidding around and have no clear idea of what may unfolding.

But we can hope!!

Bagley reclassifying β€’ Jul 29, 2017 06:55 AM

My hunch is that Bags wanted no part of head-to-head against our fully seasoned, mid major graduate transfer from Bill and Mare. But when he left, Bags said, well, no maybe I might have a chance! My hunch is Bags is en route to Lawrence as I type. The whole Duke thing is a distraction play patterned off Scaramucci distracting from the reputed Awan arrest. :-)

@mayjay

Do you think the basketball and basketball media worlds are ready for the following secret society-identity-politics-era-oriented National POY awards?

Anglo-Zionist-Freemason POY.

Knights of Malta-Jesuit POY.

I keep looking at the conspicuous composition of the US Supreme Court and seeing half Roman Catholics and half Jews with a new tie splitter (Gorsuch) being an Catholic converted to an Episcopalian, which is a British Anglican.

Nothing to see here!

So: lets have some fun with these folks, who, I admit, are not widely noted for their forgiving, good humors.

Since USA remains a majority protestant country, but those advocating for open boarders apparently in pursuit of reducing the voting advantage of the protestants, seem to be winning, might basketball not be a little behind the times in the quaint notion of a single POY for college basketball?

We could call it something inaccurately, and unfairly, reductive like the Jewish POY and the Catholic POY, but don't you think there is something more accurate, high brow, fair, and, well, conspiratorial sounding (not in the CIA propaganda sense of conspiratorial smear though) about calling them Anglo-Zionist Freemason POY and the Knights of Malta-Jesuit POY?

Then we could begin talking about the first player ever to win both the awards in the same season.

A season when one player wins both would signal when the two groups of private oligarchy were getting along better, and when different players won the two POY awards, then it would signal when the two groups of private oligarchy were getting along less well.

It could be a real help for ordinary Americans not schooled in esoteric power structures of secret societies to realize when there was more and less harmony at the top.

I know I would sleep better.

I was even thinking that in the more conflicted seasons, we might have a best of three one-on-one competition between the two winners of the two awards.

One game could be played at a specially constructed City of London, Inc. Arena, and the other could be played in a specially constructed Vatican Center, and a third deciding game, when necessary, could be played in a specially constructed Jerusalem Dome, for old times sake.

Each game in the series could have a catchy branding name to help attract endorsements.

The game at City of London, Inc. Arena could be called "The Tribe of Dan" Classic.

The game at the Vatican Center could be called the "The Trinity Classic."

The third and deciding game at Jerusalem Dome could be called "The Eye for an Eye Classic."

Basketball...its Secret Society-tastic!!!!!!

(Note: all fiction. No malice.)

@mayjay

Thank you so much for posting that!!!

@mayjay

Nope. Football appears to be a goner. You of all persons, redirecting with face book and the internet, or not, should recognize this. Economies of scale as TV and internet content first Balkanize nationally and then converge globally will get it sooner or later, even if brain damage doesn't.

Oh, what the heck. Nothing is set in stone. It might be in the clear. It might not be. Rock Chalk!

I am really trying to get better at this self-doubting and qualification. ;-)

Post Script: As a layman, I have no idea, what level the neuroscience is at regarding explaining and quantifying the extent and risk of loss of brain function due to repetitive impacts players receive in football. But I suspect there may be enough research amassed to make certain kinds of scientifically based remarks on the risks.

So: one small place to start would be to require a warning label be placed on every item of football equipment, and on every ticket, and be run on every TV screen when football is being shown that reads some thing like the warning for cigarettes, only directed to football and brain damage.

To reiterate, I am only imagining here. I don't know what the actual stats would indicate.

Nevertheless, televisions and television content are reputedly designed to induce our brains to produce an alpha wave-dominated state wherein we are increasingly receptive to suggestions in the visuals and the content. I am therefore optimistic that overtime something like the following might have positive impact. Imagine this fictionalized surgeon general's warning...

Surgeon General's Warning: Football is bad for your health. Scientific research indicates that sufficient brain damage can occur from even minor repetitive impacts typically encountered by all that play the game to significantly increase a player's risk of experiencing significant loss of brain function later in life.

Don't know if it could be scientifically supported, or not, but what if it could be?

@bskeet

I am so glad to see you post this.

From the moment I saw the results of the brain scanning research ten years ago that even minor traumas accrue into long term brain damage, especially alzheimers, etc., I believed football should be ended.

Next, once brain research reputedly focused somewhat more specifically on football some years back (someone fill me in here if and what the findings actually have been) and reputedly showed that even minor helmet impacts rocked the brain in its cranial hammock enough to create the minor traumas that would accrue to brain damage in middle and old age, I was even more confident football was done, even though the massive revenues and sunk costs would create an inertia that would prevent it from being quickly marginalized and then ended.

I have been writing about the hope for the end of football for years now.

So: how, what and when will end it?

It will never end completely, same as boxing, cock fighting and dog fighting will never end completely.

It will largely end, when we decide to raise the costs of engaging in the production of it to the point that the net benefits diminish enough that the producers look to other actitivies to produce.

That means that to save large numbers of our young from becoming punch drunk old fools for the sake of generating entertainment and entertainment revenues, we have to:

a.) educate the kids, and especially their parents, about how the sport injures them;

b.) find a better sport for them to engage in that vents the aggression that football does;

c.) find other ways for universities to make money;

d.) encourage legislation and court precedents that spike up the damages in class action suits to be paid by those producing the sport;

e.) encourage coverage of other less harmful sports to redirect the amoral TV outfits;

f.) find the amoral petroshoeco outfits a new market for petro shoes and petro athletic equipment uniforms.

Fail to do all of the above, just ensures that football will take longer than it needs to to disappear.

One other possibility would be to get the universities, petroshoecos, and Pentagon to lobby to start D1 robo-football as part of a testbed and R&D subsidy for developing T-2 terminators platoons to replace bio--soldiers with robots-soldiers.

But I'm against this approach, because very shortly rob-armies would slaughter most of humanity except for the private oligarchy.

Alas, this may be the most likely scenario.

Recently @HawkChamp asked me have 2 players from the same program won POY in consecutive seasons?

I thought it was a great question that I did not have the answer for, nor the drive to do the leg work to find out.

But it did trigger me to write down some of the apparently unwritten criteria for being selected national POY in D1.

Here are some:

a.) a player the media already knows either from petroshoeco hype-branding, or from prior years of sound play peaking into a great season;

b.) a player has to be the hub, or 1st option scorer, or both, on his team;

c.) a player has to have a personal/career "narrative" the media knows how to sell (i.e., it goes much deeper than he is "good guy" (i.e., but presently it now goes beyond selling positives; in particular, the player has to be identity politic neutral, or sympathetic.)

d.) a player has to be either one of the future all-time greats of the game, or he has to play in a year, when there no future all time greats, and there are 2-3 lesser, but petroshoeco pre-selected players that apparently divide the petroshoeco brand voting blocks and so allow the outlier to get in (Frank Mason appears to have benefitted some from this criterion);

e.) a player has to "come up big" in most of the games where he has an opportunity to come up big for his team at the end;

f.) a player has to outplay some top players over the course of the season that "seem," according to the "eye test" of sports journalists to be better players;

g.) a player has to either be from the EST, or perform far better than any EST player in terms of the criteria listed above, or benefit from 2-3 EST players dividing up the EST voting block;

h.) a player cannot be the reason his team does not go deep in the madness (i.e., his teammates have to be weak enough for the voters to assign the blame for his team not going deep to his teammates); and

i.) a player either has to be a true thoroughbred and potential all timer, or he needs to be the underdog that has overcome seemingly impossible obstacles.

Feel free to add or subtract from the list.

Climbing the Shanghai Tower β€’ Jul 22, 2017 01:44 PM

This brings new meaning to death defying.

What's next?

Let's finally build a space elevator and let them climb that!!!

Why Big Lies Work in Propaganda β€’ Jul 21, 2017 05:35 PM

@mayjay

Is calling him an idiot an example of a big lie? He doesn't appear to meet any conventional definition of an idiot to me. I'm not sure why you chose to call him one.

Why Big Lies Work in Propaganda β€’ Jul 21, 2017 12:44 PM

A concise, brilliant explanation of WHY a BIG LIE is easier to sell with propaganda than a half truth. It has no basis of facts that can be itemized and reinterpreted against it. It's entirely made up. Thus, if repeated often enough it becomes a kind of fact-less, but unimpeachable "truth." The story in turn STRIPS current MSM behavior naked. They don't look good in the nude either.

http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2017/07/20/the-reign-of-propaganda/ β†—

Svi Euro Stats β€’ Jul 21, 2017 12:22 PM

@REHawk

Kudos! You wore out nail head.

Devonte + Svi = BULWARK!

Svi could really be a weapon this season, if he gets comfortable from Three. Under 20? OMG!!!! He had a man's body last season. This season he could have a man's mind; i.e., the neural nets could be grown in. Watch out. He needs a new nickname. How about the Ukrainian Rail Gun for his long range gunning? Or maybe Svi Thri? Or the KIEVAN RUS KID?

Devonte could surprise people. I expect him to look awesome on defense, because of healed legs. He is much more intuitive and fluid PG than Frank. And with Malik, Svi and Vick to take over his role as volume shooter of treys, his trey percentage should jump up to Frank's level last season! Two POYs in a row?

Rock Chalk!

Opinions needed β€’ Jul 21, 2017 11:55 AM

@kjayhawks

I won't address delivery/presentation format, but I have long thought something like JAYHAWK DIGEST would hunt.

Scour all the web sites and sports news sites for interesting takes on KU Basketball. Select a dozen each day. Write a one or two sentence take on why the story or feed is worth a look.

Biggest Waste's of U.S. Tax Dollars β€’ Jul 21, 2017 04:27 AM

@Kcmatt7

Howling!

@kjayhawks

I've been in my dark James Ellroy places for a while.

My funny bone had a stress reaction!!!!

Trying to tape it and start playing through again.

@HighEliteMajor

OMG!!! You totally topped me!!!!

The first one with the facial hair angle...OMG!!!

And then they kept coming...

PHOF!

Ran out of gas in Columbia and was offered the Chancellor's job at MU.

Sam Brownback picked him up hitchhiking to Lawrence on the Kansas Turnpike and tried to make him pay the toll.

D-CIA Pompeo ordered 24/7 satellite surveillance to make sure he was keeping in shape for basketball season and it all felt a little too Orwellian.

Had to stay at his former college to work off parking tickets.

Decided that tweeting about playing KU basketball was more fun than actually playing KU basketball.

Missed the West Lawrence exit and kept going till he got to BIG LOVE in southern Utah, and could not go back to monogamous culture.

Boot camp.

(Note: all fiction. No malice. Not about Jack Whitman.)

Biggest Waste's of U.S. Tax Dollars β€’ Jul 20, 2017 08:14 PM

@Kcmatt7

I realize this is a lot of billions of dollars for a lot of questionable stuff, but...

I am frankly vastly more concerned about the $10 Trillion or so that has reputedly simply gone missing!

Think of American health care based on a $10 Trillion trust fund!

Basketball is moving down a path of finding the threshold at which too many playing outside and gunning trifectas is too much.

What if 4 out, 1 in were not there yet?

Better yet, what if 5 out were the sweet spot?

The assumption has been with Udunka Azuiwookie--the greatest footer prospect in the galaxy this season--that KU will return to the thrilling days of yesteryear in a galaxy far far away, when men were men and bigs were big.

Surely, KU will go big with Udunka, 10-20 minutes a game, or longer, when conditioning and foul-avoidance permit. Rim protection and rebounding and filling rattling picks never go out of style, regardless of space-time coordinates.

But Ukunka is likely to get fouled up some, and so there will be times, anywhere from 10-30 minutes, when the opponent is small enough in the paint that Self will want to get smaller and more mobile. Self, after all, likes to play it anyway they want. The man eats Both-checks for breakfast cereal.

So: Self has tried the 4 out 1 in offense and found a way to shag 30 Ws, a conference title, a high seed and a visit to the Elite Eight with his Four Guys from Tulsa Plus an OAD experimentation in searching for the three point sweet spot.

What about 5 out?

Self has a golden opportunity to fly his 2017 Millennium Jayhawk closer to the 3 Point Event horizon than ever before. Why? Because Master Self has got Billy Preston; that's why. Billy Preston is a long cat in Self-vernacular. But its more than that. Preston is long like a Cheetah. The guy can shorten the floor. AND he can also get up and corner caroms just fine. And Preston is thought to have some range on his J and to be able to put the ball on the floor. AND like all agile big men, he dreams of playing guard.

Think of Preston as young Jedi Billy Rimwalker with a lot of force in him. But Master Self has to see if young Rimwalker can stay on the light side swinging between low blocks and outside stripes. The Yoda from Edmond, Oklahoma, has to be SURE, before he can commit to exploring the 3 point event horizon with young Rimwalker. If young Rimwalker were to be seduced by the basketball dark side from swinging inside and out before he were ready, well, the 2017 Millennium Jayhawk could easily falter, slip over the 3 point event horizon and the Millennium Falcon could disappear into a basketball black hole it would never emerge from as anything but infinitely compressed wookie fur balls emitted from a worm hole some where in another part of the universe, likely millions of light years from Allen Field House, or the March Carney.

It wouldn't be pretty.

On the other hand, if young Rimwalker could swing inside and out and maintain his hold on the basketball force, well, 5 out for periods of time when Undunka is resting, or chilling form fouls, could be an incredible change of pace that almost no teams could cope with. With Rimwalker, the team could still rebound and contend at the rim some on defense, and so force teams to keep their bigs in even when Udunka sits. But here is the SWEET part: on the offensive end, KU could trigger treys from five outside spots, which would force the opponent to pull their bigs outside, or take them out all together and go small. And once this occurred, well, then, think of young Rimwalker, all 6-9 long and athletic inches of him, putting it on the floor and soaring for uncontested dunks.

AWESOME!!!!!

Feel the trey force, Bill!!!

The Three Seas Initiative Explained β€’ Jul 20, 2017 06:23 AM

The USA ground water may never be the same, if the Three Seas Initiative (TSI) gets implemented. TSI proposes to sell Fracked USA gas liquified at East Coast terminals and floated to the Polish coast on the Baltic Sea to then be re-gassed and piped for sale throughout the former USSR's IRON CURTAIN COUNTRIES. The idea is to take them off the Russian natural gas teat, militarize them, and use those countries to contain Russia, thereby reduce Russia's influence over Europe, and at the same time create a block of EU states that will reduce Germany's dominance of the EU. Too bad they have to sell gas at 3/5s the price Russia charges. Talk about a loss leader!!!

Regardless, this is huge. Read the essence here:

https://geopoliticalfutures.com/intermarium-three-seas/ β†—

Bagley for Whitman β€’ Jul 20, 2017 05:47 AM

@SkinnyKansasDude

How can we hope to compete with U.K., Duke and UNC without a William and Mary transfer?

It's hopeless!

Is Breitbart a legitimate news site? β€’ Jul 15, 2017 04:39 PM

@approxinfinity

Being born and raised in a family where politics and all controversial subjects were encouraged to be discussed, and in a state that was born in the most politically controversial period of American history, II thoroughly enjoy political, media, religious, abortion, conspiracy, et al, discussion and welcome it at our site.

But I also understand that others do not, and do not want their joy of KU Basketball discussion diluted by shunting into other tracks of subject matter.

I think we already have the solution at hand. We have created Royals and Chiefs categories that have nothing to do with KU Basketball, other than being sports.

Why not create a category called politics, too? It would be just like the Royals and Chiefs categories. No one that was not interested in the category would go to it. I rarely, if ever, go to the Royals, or Chiefs, categories, and it does not bother me that all kinds of opinions are being expressed there. A political category seems similarly benign.

One more thing I would suggest, based on what has been learned (at least by me) over the years by our online community. It might be good to institute up front that the point of the discourse is to "discover" and "learn" about issues, rather than to argue to be right, and so engage in to marginalizing and smearing others. Simply agree to ban all the techniques of thread cracking and smearing and trying to be the one that is right. In fact, AGREE TO ELIMINATE THE VERY POSSIBILITY OF DECLARING ONE POV IS RIGHT. This would completely eliminate 99% of contentiousness from the git-go. These kinds of discussions never get anywhere and are a waste of everyone's time. If I have learned anything from this web site it is that I never change anyone else's mind, and neither does anyone else. Each persons changes his own mind here when he/she is good and ready to change it. And they do so when they have participated in gathering information and processing it on their own. Individuals change their own minds. Thus it is fruitless and naive to waste time "winning" arguments. The object of discourse is to come away with more knowledge than what one started with. This new knowledge can include: facts, logics, hypotheses and assumptions about the topic being discussed. Anytime someone enters the realm of "I'm right because,...", or asserts class prejudices like "All liberals are..(fill in the blank)," or "All Republicans are...(fill in the blank)," then participants simply respond with "That's the I'm Right fallacy," and continue introducing and discussion the meaning and utility of new facts, new logics, hypotheses, and assumptions.

This way we actually come away from discussions knowing more and more, rather than being bored and assaulted and disrespected by dolts endlessly engaging in the vanity of trying to show everyone else they don't know what they are talking about. Everyone knows something worth knowing, or else the only point to communicating is pulling the wool over their eyes with propaganda and the current 25-30 techniques for thread cracking and site destabilization and smearing to try to proselytize for one stupid agenda, or another.

Why talk politics in a subcategory of a basketball web site? Because it is a group of aliases one already has a frame of reference with and knows to some degree their genuineness in discourse and their ways of communicating. What more reason does one need? It could be very fruitful to discuss politics with such aliases. We have become a very knowledgeable community about KU basketball and college basketball and the college sports industry by exploring and learning. Wouldn't it be marvelous if we were able to create a model for talking about politics similarly. We keep getting better at talking about sports. Why not start getting better at talking about politics? It seems to me that our nation needs to rediscover how to talk about politics, after the long assault on political discourse by the propagandists and mind controllers with unlimited Federal Reserve funny money budgets.

Is Breitbart a legitimate news site? β€’ Jul 14, 2017 11:05 PM

Intelligence organizations themselves appear no longer in the business of discovering the truth about opponents. I suspect this is because they concluded long ago that whatever they find is not trustworthy at a digital level. I suspect the realize nothing they store digitally, no matter how encrypted, is trustworthy.

Intelligence organizations now appear effectively 100% focused on creating illusions to fool others with, not seeking truthful intelligence. They apparently lost faith in the truth. If they were actually looking for truth, the last thing they would do is run torture prisons to try to extract it. Torture prisons are apparently strictly for terror and intimidation of domestic and foreign adversaries, especially, we citizens. The function of torture prisons is apparently to experiment in mind control, terrorize us all, and to recruit dirty informants with coercion.

All is not lost. Many before us in totalitarian countries have had to learn to operate on an Orwellian diet of private oligarchic lies.

The news in our world is apparently strictly for driving agendas, not for providing an objective summary of what happened that day.

The only room for discussion on this point appears to be the start date of when ALL news became totally agenda driven propaganda pretending to be news. I hypothesize 9/11, because that is the day that our media told us everything had changed, and since then I find no evidence of anything but agenda driven propaganda on most events. But I am open to other start dates.

Is Breitbart a legitimate news site? β€’ Jul 14, 2017 10:04 PM

" Is Breitbart a legitimate news site?l
--@approxinfinity

No, it does not appear to be.

But none of the others appear to be either. Not one.

The moment our information systems fully migrated to digital, and the Pentagon and National Security State committed to full spectrum dominance after 9/11, news was unfeasible and so effectively extinct.

There is no way to tell what is true and what is not. There are only narratives that seem more probable, or less probable.

All "news," and "information" are hackable in untraceable ways by all sides. Even news that starts as factually verified and confirmed by two sources is useless, because it can be hacked untraceably inside a reporters lap top, or phone, wifi or cloud locations. Hence, a reporter can only prove what is reported by producing the sources in a room full of witnesses and cameras. But the moment the witnesses and cameras reduce appearances to digital content everything becomes hackable again.

It's going to take decades, maybe centuries, for human beings to understand and compensate institutionally for the loss of verifiability.

Everything broadcast, cabled, printed, or internetted by an incorporated entity using digitalization at any step of its processes is agenda driven propaganda by definition.

No exceptions.

The effect is now normalizing, too.

Getting caught digitally red handed at anything now means nothing, because every case starts out with reasonable doubt.

Hilary and Podesta getting caught for all the apparent criminality in the leaked emails means zero, because in court the jury would be shown how easily the emails could have been substantially altered before during and after they were sent. It doesn't matter that she apparently also destroyed 30k+ emails. There are explanations justifying that, too.

Almost nothing digitally is likely to be successfully actionable with deep enough pockets. ALMOST NOTHING.

Unverifiability is the new "true" among private oligarchies and their governments and their captive media oligopolies. They have for centuries been able to lie in analog more than is good for most of us. Now they can lie with impunity all the time, even when they don't need to. And appear to do so.

The next step is for the accreting lying to finally lead to a population that can recall nothing but lies.

That's where this is all heading, until cultures institute strict, enforceable standards, like US GRADE A PRIME INFORMATION, or something. And that will bring the peril of censorship.

@justanotherfan

Superb analysis.

We are looking for a 6-4 maniacally driven perfection that approaches Trey balling the way Ted Williams approached hitting--scientifically, systematically--and with rigid rules about where and when to take the shot. And he will need that volume shooter on the opposite wing. And lastly he will need a coach that schemes the offense to win with peak 3pt %.

I reckon last year's KU team was a near prototype with 4 out so you have a volume shooter and a volume driver to keep the D honest inside and out for the pass or kick to the 60% gun. But it would have been better to have your volume shooter --Devonte--at point and your 60 percenter on a wing.

It seems like averaging making 60% of treys in D1 (or the NBA) is the equivalent of hitting .400 for a season in MLB. Can it be done on > 125 3ptas for a season? Has it ever been done?

Is Self breaking an embargo, or finally learning to recruit the NBA style forward position, or did the adidas conveyor produce him, or was it a random bit of luck?

By true forward I mean a player drafted to play one of the NBA's long forward positions, When was the last season KU had a lottery pick at the longer of the two forward positions? Has Self had as many NBA lottery picks at the LONGER forward position, as other coaches at elite schools have had?

Not talking #1, just top 15.

By true power forward I mean some one that would be drafted to play the longer of the two forward positions in the NBA. Not talking about some one like Josh Jackson that played out of position at the 4 for KU and will not play the the taller of the two forward positions in the NBA.

If KU never had the most first round DCs, when was the last time it tied for the most first round draft choices in the country?