@Fightsongwriter Yes having 3 terrible foul calls on Devon definitely hurt our chances, the offense just looks better with him on the floor.
@Fightsongwriter Q will continue to start as Self has said. Ochai is prob just happy to be playing and wouldn't complain. There maybe a few games that Ochai gets more minutes and/or starts after halftime.
@Woodrow I agree, not much for him to gain IMO. I predict Dedric, KJ, Vick(duh) and Moore are all gonna be gone.
Maybe since they ruled on Hernandez, they can spend more time on Silvio's case....hahaha most likely not. I agree with @1JayhawkLifer Silvio's case is a little bit different from the stand point that he had no knowledge of the money and Hernandez was supposed to get monthly payments as well. I'm just shocked they made a ruling that hurts a ACC team tho the team isn't very good and likely wouldn't be ruled the same if it was a Dook, UNC or Syracuse player.
@wissox I enjoyed watching the highlights of that collapse, the funny thing was ESPN was like "the tigers made a run" lol they both tigers.
We are extremely luck to have such great coaches for the past 34 years. The hardest job in sports will be replacing Self, Williams and coach K.
Edit: This is why we should take it easy on Self this season, as Bilas said during the game that it was impressive KU is this good with all the stuff going on and the players missing.
@Bwag I wasn’t surprised as much that Texas was out coached again but KSU lost to a bad bad team that probably doesn’t win 5 games in the SEC.
Like I said earlier this season, we are going to lose the B12 at some point. Effort was fine tonight.
If KU has Silvio and Doke they probably only have the ISU loss right now.
@Crimsonorblue22 no question he killed us a couple of years ago at Stanford.
Just need Dedric to use teammates when doubled, someone has to be open. He had solid line but tried to do too much with wild shots and was beaten badly on the glass for easy points for UK.
First defense was solid tonight, just gave up too many put backs and didn't make shots.
Garrett has been great lately but he is killing us with TOs and missed lay ups.
Not having Doke/SDS is the difference, it'd be blow out city with them. We have trash the whole second and only down 7
@Kcmatt7 he has took some wild shots this half.
I expected a 17 point loss so if we can keep it single digits I'll be happy.
Refs need to get control in this, games getting way too physical
Cant miss wide open 3s and shots from point blank range.
Game
All 3 fouls horse crap on Dotson.
I think UK wakes up and blows this wide open. They are so much stronger and more athletic than us.
Dedric isn't making up for the 7 easy put backes he has given up this far.
Good half, better than I expected this to go. If we can sure up the rebounding game we have good chance.
@Woodrow if there wasn't 4 ghost calls on KU you may have a point but there was so...
7 fouls to 2 so far, that's why opponents call the place rape arena.
Another no contact foul.
Rebound and make bunnies, we could be up 15
Anytime this games gets separation look for laughable calls.
Q just stinks, but ya I think you have to be touched to get a foul call.
If we could just rebound
Good defense so far. Need to keep the game at this pace.
Dedric needs to be tough
@truehawk93 we have some pretty good celebrities for KU. Rob Riggle, Jason Sudeikis and Paul Rudd to name a few. My KSU friends always give me crap about KU and Lawrence being full of gays, which doesn’t really matter to me and it’s not accurate but their big celebrity is Eric Stonestreet, who isn’t even remotely funny to me and is gay lol.
Lol well looks like my prediction of gimmies for KSU and Texas were off base. I hope KSU plays that bad against us (they won’t) they looked terrible today. Ok State with a surprise win over South Carolina and WV taking a fight to Tennessee early.
@truehawk93 I don’t follow UK or Louisville just remember seeing here on ESPN at a Louisville game. Jlaw could pull of anything and everything lmao
@Kcmatt7 I don’t think the coaches like anything lol, both Self and Cal have complained about this game as well as saying the champions classic is too early. The only reason this thing has been successful is the KU vs UK match up. ESPN saw dollar signs and took it.
@Kcmatt7 Maybe then need to change it to where it’s is set closer to when the game are actually going to be played.
@truehawk93 Jlaw is a Louisville fan
We have always gotten players from Missouri, especially the KC area. KC, St Louis and around table rock are kinda there own deal, the rest of the state is a total cess pool IMO.
I don’t understand how they come up with who plays in the challenge. Some of the better SEC teams like LSU, Auburn and Mississippi State aren’t playing while Texas and KSU both have gimmies. I understand that WV was preseason ranked and that was a good match up with Tennessee when this was released but only 2 games look good to me, ISU vs Ole Miss and KU vs UK. Arkansas maybe able to keep it close with Tech but I wouldn’t bet on it.
@HighEliteMajor Embiid isn't good at 3s, in fact he has stopped shooting them very often.
@Kcmatt7 Watch Videos of Embiid, who is dominating the league at his position and watch Wilt. Tell me they ain't similar players, I'd actually say Wilt was better. I think he could do more than Embiid is doing today. The game back in the day was way more physical, guys were get elbowed all the time, shoot punches were being thrown in several games.
@approxinfinity Fair point but Oscar could hit outside shots as could guys like JoJo White and Pistol Pete. Some guys wouldn't be effect for sure and its hard to know how deep they actually were back then.
@approxinfinity Oscar is definitely one of those guys that gets over looked. He would've been Fabulous in any era IMO, dude was super quick, 6'5 guard so he had size and prob has even better averages if the 3 point line was around when he started. He comes close to averaging a triple double with points (25.7), Rebounds (7.5) and Assists (9.5). He was pretty much Magic before Magic was around. I personally think any of the greats could play today and with ease. You look at how much more physical the game was from the 60s to the mid 90s, there's no comparison. Guys would be fouling out in quarters if it was called as it is today. As a I stated above every player that played pre-2000 would've averaged several more PPG for the amount foul shots today. Look at the run Harden is on, he's killing it but he's getting dozens of foul shots each night too.
@Texas-Hawk-10 Look at the all stars Lebron, Jordan and co played with for much of their careers. Compared to the guys Wilt played much of his career with really no comparison. You could say later in Wilts career in LA they didn't win enough titles but they pretty much had him and Jerry West.
This will be a big stage on Saturday night, Grimes was excellent on the big stage at the Champions Classic, maybe this is the game he needs to break out.
Here is always my question, How many people complained enough to get the rules changed for the likes of Jordan, Bird and Magic? ZERO They widened the lane, twice because of him, they added offensive goal tending. When he was at Kansas they made a rule you couldn't in bound the ball by passing over the back board because it was 2 easy points for Wilt. In high school he would shoot free throws off the line and throw it off the back board to tip it in and if it was thru the rim before his feet hit the ground, it was good. "There is no one that has ever played the game as well as Wilt Chamberlain, he was a man for the ages" - Jerry West former teammate, coach and Lakers executive whom personally watched the likes of Magic, Kareem practice and play for years as well as watching Jordan.
@Texas-Hawk-10 You do realize that Jordan's team was pretty stout without him right? I believe they went to back to back conference finals without him and won 55 or more games in both of those years.
@Kcmatt7 oh and you're full of crap Wilt is listed at 270 on most sites and Russell 220 or 230 depending on the site. A little short of 80 pounds for sure. I've read he got outta shape in LA and gained weigh but most of the roster I look up don't list him over 270 and some early in his career list him at 250. Also note Russell was long retired by the time Wilt was anywhere near 300.
@Texas-Hawk-10 Really by whoms account? Bill Russell played with a team of all stars in Boston, guys like Bob Cousy and Tom Heinsohn, have over 15 all star selections between the 2 of them. Wilt was the Warriors/76ers had back in those days. He was so selfish later in his career when he was with all stars in LA, he became the first and only center to lead the league in assists. Everything I've read on Wilt, his teammates and coaches loved him. Basketball back then only LA and Boston had the cash for super teams. I think you can debate you have to have a Championship to be considered the GOAT, Wilt has 2, NEXT!