@jayballer73 Yes AFH has always been a āshooters buildingā, OU doesnāt look good at this point the only thing keeping them relevant is the ESPN Trae Young hype machine. Hopefully he continues to not shoot it well, but letās worry about West Virginia first.
Texas just beat OU in Norman and the wheels seem to have fell off the wagon for Kruger. Losing 5 in a row and 7 of the last 9 games, how last Sunday they were a top 16 team is nothing short of baffling. ISU and KSU are tied at the half in Manhattan, the rest of the games are as follows:
Kansas vs West Virginia 5:15 CT
Tech @ Baylor 6:30 CT
Okie State @ TCU 7:00 CT
@BigBad This happens at every level, I know some former NAIA coaches and players, they get paid and easy classes too.
I love basketball, Iāll watch any good game, watching Arizona vs Arizona State currently. Watched WSU get every call to beat Temple at home, shot more than double fts and people claim only KU gets calls lol.
@Blown If we are cheating on this scale to not win NCs or even get to the FF most of the time Iād be pretty pissed off.
Itās is definitely puzzling at this point. I believe that quote āThe crazy part of this business is none of the kids are freeā. I think the NCAA doesnāt really care as long as it isnāt easily traceable, the FBI only cares because corporate America is now involved. The FBI isnāt gonna give a darn if a booster gives a kid money. I bet Dook and UK are sweating bullets til this comes out, as someone posted a month or so ago they are the only schools to get 3 or more top 25 guys every single year for the most part of the last 10 seasons. There have been several years where we had no one that was highly ranked. KU has seemed to be in the open about stuff involving guys like Preston, Selby, Alexander and Diallo, that in itself makes me feel better about us having a fairly good chance off being in the clear. We all have seen the east coast bias in work from the NCAA, that blind eye that they seemed to have turned may catch up with them. I once watched a documentary about Marcus Camby who played at Umass for Cal and was why the FF was vacaded. Cal himself said that they had 10 times more trouble getting him cleared because it was a small school not known for much than he has ever had getting anyone at UK, said they wanted so many more records and documents. Sadly itās turning into what coach Pete Bell says at the end of blue chips āIt aināt about winning or losing, hell it aināt much about basketball. Itās about Moneyā. I personally put some of the blame on the NBAs rule to make kids come for a year. Why? Youāre telling me that if an older player is gonna get cut, one more year and he wouldnāt still blow half of his fortune.
@jayballer73 I agree with @Texas-Hawk-10. Sherron was pretty salty from the get go and was a big part of NC as a sophomore. Frank didnāt look all that great as a freshman and took plenty of lumps when starting as a sophomore, by the end of Franks junior year he was really good and his senior year I believe to be the best point guard play that KU has ever had. Iād say Sherron was better for 2 and a half or 3 years.
The energy level was good and was big in us winning, the stat that stands out to me is 21 points of off 13 turnovers for KU while ISU had 4 points off of just 7 KU turnovers. Dokes rebounding must improve, his only bad stat in a solid outing. I was fairly frustrated with Mitch, he gave up most of Lards points and some silly and ones late to keep it close. He also gave them 4 fts for running in after a rebound way too late to even have a chance at anything but a foul. I can handle Newmanās fouls because most of which were aggressive, the most most aggressive team usually finishes with more fouls but we needed to battle and we did.
@BeddieKU23 I thought Svi, DTG and Newman's first few shots looked super rushed and weren't good looks.
Im glad coach Self saw my post about this line up giving us the best chance to win games going forward. No problem coach, just let know if want me to give you a few more pointers. ššš
In all honesty itās a little ludicrous that we as fans (myself included at times) are giving these guys such a tough time. We just won our 20th game for the 29th season in a row (NCAA record). We are pretty much guaranteed another tournament birth for the 29th straight year (NCAA record). Even if we donāt win the conference I think weāll be okay friends. Did I mention that Self has signed the 3rd best recruiting class and could add to it with Langford plus our transfers. Letās all get to the field house Saturday and support the heck outta these guys. It will be a special day with the 08 team as well as game day in town.
yep i said this directly afterwards, pretty much every other stat was even. We were only out rebounded bye 3 and missed almost twice as many shots.
@JayHawkFanToo ISU beat both of those teams in Ames.
Kansas travels to Ames tomorrow to battle the Cyclones, who have beaten Tech, WV and OU in consecutive home games. Obviously our chances for 14 straight are a 100% if we win out but Iām still betting bet Tech drops a few more games. A win would be nice but I still donāt think a loss ruins all hope for another conference title, I think we can lose one more and honestly it would be better to lose to the bottom team rather than an OU, Tech or WV. I Hope we can win and see improvement.
After seeing a few changes in the line up in recent weeks, Mitch Lightfoot in for Vick last week against TCU and Lightfoot and Garrett in for Vick and Newman versus Baylor. Bill Self said before Monday's practice that he was unsure who would start Tuesday night at Iowa State. I think itās a good thing for a few reasons, that Heās not sure who to start. First off hopefully it means that Vick and Newman are practicing better. Secondly I think the original line up gives us the best chance to win games going forward.
How can be we be sure its really you? what have you done with @Jayballer54, @jayballer73? lol
Kinda chicken sh** to say after a win IMO. I really didnāt think that there were that many questionable calls in the game, maybe Malikās and one late (in the first game). I thought Baylor got several offensive fouls on KU Saturday off of flopping. Itās funny I was giving some of my KSU coworkers trash the other day because they always claim the refs are paid to be sure KU wins in AFH. I guess those guys arenāt earning their keep this season lol. I personally think the home team always gets a few favorable whistles in CBB most games.
I think winning the conference is pretty important this year because of the reason the @JayHawkFanToo mentioned. Itās been nice to have that to fall back on when we have faulted early in the tournament but the other side of the coin is that if you make the final four people wonāt be talking about how didnāt win the conference. At this point I think we have a much better chance to win the conference even tho we are a game behind currently. If we can win the conference and make the sweet 16 Iāll be happy with team we have.
I love Paul, he was on some of those first KU teams I remember watching. It was amazing watching him glide down the floor seemingly effortlessly taking over games and hitting big shots. People think Iām crazy but Iād take the Truth over anyone else late in a game to win or send it to OT.
Iāve had some KSU fans give me some trash about how we arenāt going to win it this year. I simply ask them if they expected us to win the conference til itās over? So what? We werenāt gonna win it every year til the end of time. No one else has ever won 14 in a row in history, almost sounds like a tough thing to do. The streak has to end at some point, Yes I wanted 14 probably worse that half the others because it would set us alone at the top. I personally donāt think itās over just yet, as stated yesterday, does anyone think Tech wins 9 games in a row and doesnāt lose again? Iād bet that doesnāt happen but if it does maybe the conference gets a FF team. I think we could lose 1 more game and still win it a second long as itās not to Tech.
@Hawk8086 yep, we still control our own destiny.
KSU ain't winning tonight, maybe it's a wake up call we need.
TT in total control now.
Joel is kicking butt tonight
TT tied at the half with KSU, to be honest KSU got every call so they better pick it up to be a good little brother.
@JayHawkFanToo But as @Texas-Hawk-10 has said we have had several of them not do much ether.
Hey, itās like this if more people had this happen after stealing, it would happen less. Just like folks getting shot breaking into houses. You can call it wrong but you must lay in the bed you make.
@Gunman exactly at this point Iād be shocked if Atleast 2 of the 3 of the trio of Sam, Vick and Malik didnāt transfer. We obviously have one too many guys for next year if everyone stays and 2 too many if we land Langford.
@Gunman I agree, this team is at its best when the ball is moving side to side and they are getting open looks. Doke sometimes holds the ball way too long to not even get a shot up. If Self wants to win another conference title he has to change back to a 4 guard line up and let our guys freelance on the perimeter IMO.
If tech loses tonight we are still in first and even if they donāt they have @Baylor, @OSU and @ WVU. I highly doubt that they finish this season out not losing again in this conference with what would be 9 straight wins. We have OU, TT and WVU again, with us having a game on WVU and 2 on OU and at least 2 on KSU after today. We still will have plenty of say as for what will happen. They guys just need to come together right now, no more selfish play, no more silly Doke fouls and five guys operating as a unit.
@CRH107 We are all shocked that something inaccurate came out of jaybate.
@Fightsongwriter I agree at that point Acul (probably spelled wrong) was getting what ever he wanted anyways, why not see what Silvio could do had he been in a little longer. Obviously in hindsight it wouldnāt have matter because we ended up getting creamed. At this point it is a complete waste of time and eligibility to have Silvio in uniform if he isnāt going to play. Also if heās so pissed off at Newman and Vick, give Sam some minutes.
@Hawk8086 I high doubt that happened pregame, I highly doubt thereās any proof of such a thing.
@JayHawkFanToo Whats you point? We have had guys transfer that had 2 or 3 years left and guys that were grad transfers, none of which really did a damn thing. Most the time people transfer from big 5 schools as a grad or not is because they aināt playing. An FCS or smaller school transfer could be because they want to be seen and have a better chance to get to the NFL.
This team needs a simple solution, I have one. Have a players only meeting and workout the issues right then and there. Now no this doesnāt mean that they will go win a title like everyone says just because the 08 team did, they simply donāt have the talent to win a title. We had one of these when I was senior, their were 6 of us seniors and we had a in counter. We told some of the guys that werenāt going hard in practice and games that if they didnāt start playing we were gonna beat their a** right then and there, reminded them that this was our last go round and we werenāt having it.
@Big-Clyde52 haha fixed now
Self has to go back to the old line up of DTG, Newman, Svi, Vick and Doke. @KUSTEVE is a 100% right it's 3 on 5 on offense. Vick had a silly play today but was very aggressive, that I like. Dokes silly fouls and Mitch's defense on bigs were costly. We finished with 3 less rebounds, which is surprising because we gave them about 5 by jacking up 3s at the end. They had 9 offense rebounds to our 14. Shooting was the key stat today. They shot 59% from the field and 53% from 3. Coming in they were 9th in both categories in the B12. I'd say they played much better than they usually do.
Mathew 14
30 But when he saw the wind, he was afraid and, beginning to sink, cried out, āLord, save me!ā
31Immediately Jesus reached out his hand and caught him. āYou of little faith,ā he said, āwhy did you doubt?".
@BShark You will now be held personally accountable if this doesn't happen. :joy:
Considering how last season went and uncertainty surrounding just how long Beaty will be in town this is a solid class. I agree itās a little more juco heavy than Iād like to but is Beatys highest rated class.
KU signs Ochai Agbaji (pronounced Och-eye Uh-bah-gee), currently unranked by Rivals.com and listed as a 3-star, No. 328-ranked player in the country by 247 Sports' composite rankings, picked KU just five days after receiving a scholarship offer from Bill Self and the Jayhawks. He hails from KC and prob will be a 4 year guy. Does this mean no Langford?
TCU fouled DTG twice, Doke and Malik each once to extend the game thats the only reason we had more fts. 2x4 = 8 so they basically shot the same amount that we did.
@Crimsonorblue22 He seemed to move slower to me and was bent over several times catching his breathe, yes the wind mill was stupid. It could've got T and cost us.
Word from my inside guy was Svi was very sick the last few days.
This was a similar game to Saturday in terms of an off shooting night, but the difference was effort. Newman and Svi combined for a mere 5 points. Newman played ok with 6 rebounds and 5 assists but Svi was a ghost 36 minutes with 3 rebounds and 1 assist. Vick was aggressive just missed open looks. DTG and Doke played great tonight for the most part and how about Garretts 2 huge 3s. Lightfoot was fairly decent. I'm worried with how tired our guys look for early Feb. As per the original post Yes! When it gets to the closing stretch of year idc if Graham has to hit a half court shot at the buzzer. A win is a win.
Svi says they aint losing at home again
@wissox Selden was great as a junior, I still think that team was one of Self's best that didnt get to the FF. The World University Games really jump started that year and he was awesome. I still remember the goofy commentators "Selden smooth as creamy peanut butter" lol.
Anyone else think its weird that they have a Trae tracker on the bottom screen with the score for the last games?
@JayHawkFanToo Its getting quite a few laughs at the moment.