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@BShark hopefully Bill gives long leashes early on to see what they can do

@jayballer67 he’s Nike all the way don’t waste your thoughts on it lol

If he came here I think Self has a talk with Lebron along the lines of I’m the coach and call the shots. If you have an issue come to me and keep it out of the media. If you can’t do that go elsewhere (he ain’t coming here anyways). Self seems to handle those tough conversations well he’s an honest Okie and doesn’t bs to players on their legitimacy of playing. Probably lost some recruits because of it be at least he’s respectful and got character.

@Kcmatt7 I think Wilson will for sure, McCullar has a very good chance in our offensive flow and Harris will improve his percentage so people at least have to guard him. If he doesn’t and Joe or Bobby play well he will see minutes decreases similar to Remy’s return.

Clemence will hopefully draw some bigs away from the bucket giving us room to drive.

This team has me really excited to see how they gel and who Self trusts and gives minutes to.

@drgnslayr technically we did in 2008 as well but Sherron and Remy played in those final 8-10 minutes not Juan and Russ.

@BShark

Without Sheron’s play we don’t win the title. Sherron was a stud. Blame the entire team or other players for the flame outs.

Juan helped defensively get the comeback going then was on the bench as Remy, Dave and Wilson made plays mid to late second half.

Och getting mop was so wrong. He was outplayed by Soph Puff once Puff entered the game. Ochai had the and one layup after puff’s dunk then missed the free throw. Puff hit a 3 and I think och had another layup.

From och checking in at 8:49 left in the game he didn’t score another bucket and from what I’ve looked up didn’t even attempt another shot.

@drgnslayr a pg who can distribute and score is not desperation. All 5 guys need to be scoring threats the pg specifically.

The pg can easily lead the team in scoring see kemba walker getting a title and heck Steph in the nba.

A scoring pg isn’t a desperation. Pg’s aren’t old school where they score minimally and must distribute anymore.

@Gorilla72 I haven’t seen it yet and next years roster weighs heavily on tomorrow.

Hope we get Smith or Ramey.

@BShark I think kuballin10 on 247 but I haven’t posted in years. I was a mod back in the day on theshiver that I think 247 took over or some other site that’s now 247.

I read both and know I’d read about Smith but clearly that wasn’t correct

@bskeet got it you’re saying you hope seeing a scoring ppg jump similar to what Sherron did when he played.

Fair enough and I get what you’re saying.

@FarmerJayhawk agh jumped the gun saw it on the other site

@FarmerJayhawk Smith isn’t an option committed to zags

@BShark Brooks from UK? Man be funny if he turned into a stud for us

@BShark who plays the 4?
That dude is 6-6 and skinny as heck. McCullar take the 4 spot?

@RockkChalkk Exactly - a defense never left sherron open or played 5v4 when he was a freshman or sophmore.....

If Pettiford can stay healthy he’s in the mold for sure that can get to the rim and finish strong

@bskeet I can’t believe you are comparing one of the baddest guards to ever play at Kansas (Self’s words) to a guy who averages 5.4 points, 4.2 ast, and 1.5 steals

Sherron
Frosh: 9.3, 2.9 and .7
Soph: 9.3, 3.1, 1.1

Also, Dajuan was no where near 39th he moved up that many spots when he committed to KU.

https://m.kusports.com/weblogs/tale-tait/2019/aug/22/kansas-commitment-dajuan-harris-jumps-in/ ↗

@stoptheflop play was perfect and everyone executed their part Juan just messed up. Huge dome and court awareness is different with the raised floor/benches ect.

Play should have been for a better free throw shooter though!

As @wissox said stuff happens every season, every champ gets some breaks and our guys won that’s all that matters.

But I do enjoy analyzing the game and potential moments where the result may not have been in our favor. I still can’t believe we won but then with remy’s emergence, Dave turning into Dok on offense and the other guys all stepping up with huge stones it’s easy to see how we pulled it out.

@approxinfinity I agree on the box score and had him stepping out of bounds with a horrible angle and court awareness cost us an L I can’t imagine how ugly it’d been for the kid (he gets roasted on 247 sports 10 times as much here).

His D second half did lead the charge there is no denying that. The lob to start, the steal from Love you almost don’t see (horrible camera work), the denial of in bounds causing inbounder to step across the line and then my absolute favorite play was the strip of RJ and straight into his scream/celebration saying YOU CANT SCORE ON ME HELL YOU CANT EVEN GET A SHOT UP!!!!

I feel seeing him for what he is; is crucial and Self sees all his good straights and excuses his bad.

Hopefully we get Nova Juan or the Juan who after coach called him a p and changes his scoring mentality.

@approxinfinity said in Reasons to believe in next year’s team:

@kuballin10 the last time iowa state played kansas, dajuan had 14 pts and 8 assists in 38 minutes. hunter had 8 pts and 2 assists in 32 minutes.

You can speculate that Hunter is better but i have seen dajuan stepping up big when we need him.Hunter is just that, speculation, at least in the sense that we dont know what he will do for Bill.

In defense of your position, Dajuans box score against UNC was not pretty, even if his defense in the second half was.

@approxinfinity 1 game sample size is your argument?

Speculate? We have a full season with each and it was pretty clear. Hunter is a better athlete, drives it better (thus more assists and impacts the game), just as good defensively and scores it better.

I’d love to see what he would do for Bill.

In the game at KU Juan hit the shot but got outplayed by Hunter’s 5 assists and 5 steals ect.

Hunter scores it more, takes it away more, and assists it more. There isn’t any speculation studs like Hunter do just fine under Self.

@approxinfinity @Jethro you guys are as bad as cnn and foxs news twisting words (yes, I’m hating on both so both sides here politically can’t complain).....or I suck at explaining the latter probably true.

Juan’s reduction in minutes (he played the perfect amount) allowed the title.

I wasn’t comparing Juan to those two players, clearly Juan is better. The comparison that I poorly explained is a lesser player holding up a better player from getting proper minutes. The scenario was the comparison not the literal players.

Russ rob/sherron situation and player comparison is perfect.

Tharpe and Frankamp is situationally applicable but not player to player with Juan. You guys got on me quick for that one.

Juan vs Hunter....one is nba talent the other is not. If I was Bill then I’d say Hunter come on down and Juan you will be the backup pg. Play the best players and in this situation Juan is being perched up when in reality he isn’t as good as the guy we were after.

@jayballer67 no joke just asked Farmer in other thread lol.

I’m not seeing anything anywhere about Ramey but Bshark and Farmer are throwing it out there so we must be courting him......heck Mccullar’s final 2 was out of nowhere initially

@bskeet agree and wish it wasn’t exactly this way!

Wiggins/Embid team used tharpe then frankamp when we had Frank there...

@approxinfinity If Juan plays a full season like the Nova game he’s a stud.

Shoot 500 three’s a day and another 500 floaters!

@FarmerJayhawk you still noted it so felt compelled to comment. It’s like say Peyton’s last year winning a super bowl or an average qb winning it all because of the team.

Dave, Remy, Och, Braun, Wilson carried us and mainly Remy in crucial games. Juan’s D contributed mightily but his reduction in minutes allowed the title.

He will start but monitoring his minutes is important.

You think we get Ramey? Watched some highlights of him and he’s a solid 2. Better shooter than Hunter and honestly in our offense he would be great alongside Juan.

Defensively and ability to drive how is Ramey per staff? Seems they wanted Hunter but would be happy with Ramey.

@wissox you’re good bringing info about any Kansas athletics accomplishments is why we are here!

Golf team has been on the rise and rather be near the top after day 1 than last!

Long way to go but fantastic start

If they qualify for the match play that’d be a huge accomplishment. They are solid but aren’t expected to be top 8 but that’s why you go play and find out!

@FarmerJayhawk

We won the title because of Remy’s contribution way more than Juan’s. It worked because Juan played the proper minutes. Without Remy (or a scorer like Hunter) we lose to Creighton or Providence

@FarmerJayhawk do you agree with this?

I don’t because Hunter is better than Juan so why not take him and make Juan the backup? I’m confused why the hang up and holding a clearly better player back so Juan can play pg. Juan is a great teammate whether starting or off the bench he will stay positive he’s a great kid.

@BShark got it thanks for the info and I wish you were with regards to the roster and maybe pushing someone out the door lol Bill gettin’ soft! Haha jk

@BShark that sucks as Hunter is better than Ramey wish it’d worked out. What you’d hear as the reason it didn’t?

Assuming Jalen’s back; who else do we go after? I’ve seen Ramey thrown out there any other nba guys that could withdraw and we find that 2 spot that can score and play alongside Juan?

@NormRoberts @Crimsonorblue22

Technically you both are right. Juan started msu because Wilson was out. Who Bill would have started not sure but I’d guess Juan because in msu game he played 36 mins to remy’s 27

@DanR I think you’re right but hearing from the insiders on this board the coaches already don’t think these freshman will be able to guard or grasp the system defensively. Hopefully they loosen the reigns and let the guys play and get out and run like they had this group do.

Run, run, run (a play out of ole Roy’s book)

@drgnslayr great post. 10000% agree and hope Self learned. He felt they’d win every game in the tourney and his cool confidence just oozed through the team. He had that smirky grin on his face even when it was a dogfight and that’s when as a fan you know we are gonna win.

Self changed in that he said he wouldn’t play or trust someone in March who didn’t produce in Feb. He made a huge exception with Remy in the big 12 tourney which he wanted to win and it paid off. He not only did that but continued that into the ncaa’s and played the perfect balance of Juan and Remy. That plus big Dave being an animal and everyone playing with stones got us a title I still can’t believe we won.

I am sure there were a few on here that still believed and should be credited for having faith when I had known.

I wish but know it won’t happen we start:
Hunter
Rice
Mccullar
Wilson
Zach

Bench
Bobby/Joe
Dick
Udeh
KJ

No way this happens but Bill did have Remy start over Juan but then the injury ect changed course. I’m hoping Bill starts the best guys and let’s them play the most minutes.

@wissox I am enjoying the fun. I can’t stop laughing at the fact they won when I was so down on them. I wasn’t around for 88 so this changed my entire mindset.

100% agree things have to fall your way and they did. Nova kid hurt, bacot hurt ect we capitalized and made the plays though!

All that but the thread is about next years team which I was referencing how last years March team was different than the entire year. Last years team with a healthy remy is a champ. Without probably lose to creighton or providence easy.

Then with that frame of mind it’s so important to get someone who can score to play the 2 or eat into Juan’s minutes unless he improves offensively (which he could).

I’m happy and enjoying it and still can’t believe they won it!

@Jethro 100% guilty of it. If remy doesn’t take off though then we wouldn’t have won. So many on here we’re right we can’t win a title with Juan playing all the minutes and that applies next year as well.

Need Hunter or Ramey

Juan
Hunter/Ramey
McCullar
Wilson
Clemence

Bench
Bobby
Rice
Dick
Kj
Udeh

Joe’s odd man out. If we don’t get another guard then Rice starts at the 2 and Joe backs him up.

Cam and Cuffe don’t play

Crazy to think mcd national player won’t start heck same for Rice and Udeh. One of them has to surprise us.

What I learned is Self might have figured out March being laid back/confident/chill not his tense usual self.

Trust in Self

@BShark hoping it’s Hunter

If we landed Hunter what’s starting lineup?
Juan
Hunter
????
Jalen
Zach

Should be but won’t:
Hunter
Rice
Dick
Jalen
Zach

@BShark thanks for the breakdown.

Based on your two recent posts above that sounds like the worst outcome imaginable.

Hunter and Carr together at Texas to go up against Juan and Bobby........

McCullar to keep Dick or Rice on the bench more isn’t ideal.

@BShark you hinting at something here?

Dream is getting JW (seems most likely) and CB (not real likely) plus Hunter to start and boot somebody who has no chance of playing real minutes this year

McCullar looks okay but he’s not some great athlete or anything. What’s the draw? I haven’t looked him up much.

@jayballer67 agree on all points

Udeh should be like the big footers at Baylor that set screens, catch lobs, play d and rim run

@BShark you think Mosley is that good?

Council is ally oops like Och

Hunter performed like Remy in March

Mosley can make tough shots and score but isn’t he not very athletic and going to be a liability defensively? Sounds familiar to Remy and we know how Bill feels about guys not playing D. Remy was quick enough to learn but Mosley athletically is limited.

Is Mosley just a 6-6 JCL?

Almost feel like I’d prefer Hunter and Council.

I saw Bill is taking the lead on Mosley so assume they want him as priority number 1. Not sure who is taking the lead on the other two guys.

Hopefully the crap about Hunter not wanting to share the ball with Juan isn’t true

@jayballer67 I agree not feeling confident on Hunter which sucks as he can help us the most.

Hunter
Council
Mosley
Welch

Bigs wise we seem set unless it’s some stuff Self grabs late but doesn’t look that way.

Juan
Rice
Mosley/Council (doubt we land both)
Wilson
Big Z

Bench:
Bobby
Dick
Udeh/KJ/Zuby - whoever is playing well

Thoughts?

@BShark $$$$ at KU better than smaller d1 schools back home. Winning didn’t cure all but riding the bench making money is lucrative depending on these guys financial backgrounds

@BShark it’s essentially what Baylor does with their bigs but Bill adds the wrinkle of teaching them how to post for easy buckets

Even on Landon’s podcast he was the 4-5th option yet Bill said when they need a bucket they throw it down low. Was really hoping there would be follow up on why? Why use your worst offensive player on the floor just because of proximity to the hoop?

I get someone will say closer obviously higher percentage but I’d rather Frank, josh anyone drive over a Landon jump hook

@BShark hunter to the ville that sucks. He’s the guy I want most.

Harris
Transfer/mj/Bobby????
Mosley (sounds like) or Dick
Wilson
Zach/Udeh/transfer

Hunter in the 2 spot playing 2 small guards would he filthy. He can fill it up in our offense. Not sure Bobby can and MJ is an unknown. Maybe some guy in the draft spring Bill gets late like Remy.

@BShark any truth to rumors of Hunter and McCullar package deal? Both have zags and I’m assuming McCullar goes there.

Really wanted Hunter and Mosley.

Curious who we have our eye on who’s entered the draft but will end up returning to school and transferring.

@Jethro 😂 “pasty gangsta” I’m rolling. You’re right though and I’d be happy with those two.

It’s whatever Bill wants to do....the man showed he knows who to play just took Remy actually getting healthy and winning us a title. Without Remy we don’t get by creighton or providence or unc. Dajuan’s steal in the title game was my favorite play but dajuan alone without a stud scoring guard at the 1 won’t get it done

@FarmerJayhawk got it thx Farmer

He knows the atmosphere just don’t want to lose him as I think Self would make him on draft boards when it’s all said and done

@BShark

Got it then Baylor would be great but that’s a definite drop off compared to Och. If the kid can shoot 40% from a higher volume it might work. Replacing ochai though good luck

Hunter it sounds okay but seems like if he was never in for a visit we won’t get him. His offense is solid looking at the last 10 or so games as others have said. He also can beat his man off the dribble to create. Hunter is legit the isu offense was the issue.

@Jethro he’s just not athletic enough he’s an old school type player, crafty ect. His lefty stroke is money though

@BShark did Hunter ever visit? I read the zoom/FaceTime stuff and he’s in Spokane now on an actual visit. I’m assuming if we get no visit that doesn’t bode well.

Hunter and Harris backcourt would be nasty defensively. Hunter showed this tourney he can hit the shots to absorb Remy’s offensive loss.

Hunter>>>Baylor if I had to pick between the two but Baylor with Clemence would be Self’s hi-low dream with two guys that can stretch the floor to keep the post not clogged up because teams have to honor our shooting ****edit Baylor plays the 4. At 6-6 maybe he’s a 3 but athletically he couldn’t guard anywhere close to what we’ve had at the 3 spot

@Kcmatt7 they think they are better than they are - Bill Self

@wissox go find another Remy and let’s do this thing again

@RockChalkinTexas and Bill played him

Bill was a genius in the second half guys played lose and ran