Jalen doesn't seem to be highly ranked on draft boards. I saw one consensus board that had him #93.
So, seems like if he wants to make more than NIL money, he'd have to go overseas.
If he can gain consistency on his jump shot, and control his handle a bit more, maybe the NBA will come calling next year.
I'd love to see him come back and be Mr. Everything at KU.
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@Gorilla72 said in KU/Big 12 NBA draft decisions thread:
KJ reminds me of Pierre Russell when he played at KU (yes, I’m that old). I don’t see KJ at the 5, but as a strong rebounding and inside scoring 4. But Self hasn’t gone that way in the past, has he?
Darnell Jackson??
@justanotherfan said in 2022 Transfer Portal Thread:
@BShark said in 2022 Transfer Portal Thread:
@rockchalkjayhawk said in 2022 Transfer Portal Thread:
@BShark said in 2022 Transfer Portal Thread:
Not expecting any KU players to enter the portal. As of right now, no one is in. Crazy.
This is kind of shocking. At one point, what, there was thought of at least three with a foot in the portal door???
Up to 4.
Winning cures all I guess. Though 2 were a case of people thought Bill would boot them. Very interesting.
This probably means the attrition will be through the draft.
JCL, Cam Martin, Mitch, and Remy were all listed as super seniors, so they are all gone. Big Dave and Och are also gone.
We know that MJ Rice, Gradey Dick, Zuby Ejifor, and Ernest Udeh are all coming. Ejifor and Udeh replace Dave and Mitch. Rice replaces JCL's roster spot. Dick replaces Remy's roster spot.
So there are two roster spots open at a minimum, but I'm guessing KU fills three because Braun is probably gone, too.
If we assume that means Wilson is back, our rotation next year is:
Starters: Harris, Dick, Rice, Wilson, Transfer A
Reserves: Ejifor, Udeh, Clemence, Pettiford, Yesufu, Adams, Transfer B.
I don't know where Kyle Cuffe fits into all of this. Honestly, he is the guy that I can't really figure out. He's a very bouncy athlete, but with him redshirting last year, its hard to gauge how the coaching staff feels about him. He can play. But how does he find minutes with Harris, Pettiford, Rice, Dick, Yesufu all playing guard/wing minutes. That's five guys splitting up 120 minutes already, and we know Self loves both Harris and Pettiford, so 50 of those minutes are already gone.
KU could get by without any transfers, honestly, if Wilson returns. Even without Wilson, they probably don't have to fill that other slot with a big time guy. But they probably do look for another guy either way.
Cam Martin was a red shirt, so at the moment he's not gone.
@BShark said in 2022 Transfer Portal Thread:
Not expecting any KU players to enter the portal. As of right now, no one is in. Crazy.
This is kind of shocking. At one point, what, there was thought of at least three with a foot in the portal door???
@BShark said in Next Year's Team Thread:
@FarmerJayhawk I've got good news about Mosley. Wonder if we have room for Mosley and McCullar or we are dead set on a small guard? Think we whiff on Hunter to the Ville.
Of all the names mentioned so far, Mosley seems like the best fit for our needs (imo).
I can't say i love the look of his jumper from 3, but if it goes in, OK!
So the NBA draft withdrawal date is June 1.
Are there any more portal deadlines before we can complete the roster?
@BShark said in Next Year's Team Thread:
CUFFE IS STAYING THIS IS ACTUALLY INCREDIBLY SHOCKING DON'T KNOW WHAT TO THINK
interesting. Self must like him, or he's not getting any transfers to bite?
@Kcmatt7 said in Next Year's Team Thread:
@approxinfinity said in Next Year's Team Thread:
I cant believe an elite defender wont end up a good defender. The two skills go hand in hand. If you are playing good d youre putting yourself in position to get the rebound. Not worried and excited hes coming back.
The guy jumps out of the gym. I’m not worried about him being a good rebounder even slightly. It’s honestly a strange critique for him. I get the offense or his tweener size takes.
But rebounding? Seems like a non-issue for a small sample size
Yeah, I don’t quite understand the bad rebounder label. He seemed to be in the mix a lot when on the floor. I recall a few times he lost the handle when pulling down a rebound, but maybe more nerves than motor skill.
More KJ!
@mayjay said in Chiefs Draft:
@rockchalkjayhawk said in Chiefs Draft:
I have to admit...I’ve never ever heard of Fayetteville State!
Chiefs took a bigger CB from there. Crazy. How do you scout a kid at that small of a school? :)From ChiefsWire on USAToday.com:
"The Chiefs had a big presence at the HBCU combine, the HBCU Legacy Bowl and made it a point to really dive into these prospects this year. They were able to see Williams at both the Senior Bowl and 2022 NFL Scouting Combine as well."
Ah. that explains it. thx!
And I have to say the first few days of the draft have been perfect for KC. Great picks.
The Greek dude and Skyy Moore just fell perfectly for them.
There will be some debate over the CB selection, whether his teammate Gordon should have gone first.
I have to admit...I’ve never ever heard of Fayetteville State!
Chiefs took a bigger CB from there. Crazy. How do you scout a kid at that small of a school? :)
HIGHLY disappointed to get an email from Fanatics, saying the hat I ordered a month ago will not be delivered for some stupid reason. Now i need a new hat vendor!
And how bout that, Karlaftis falls to us as predicted by many mock drafts.
I think the Chiefs for two very solid players who can help instantly, but maybe not superstars.
@mayjay @Gorilla72 yup, after reading up a bit, sounds like the CB is highly skilled, smart, but a little undersized. I haven’t seen any C Grades yet. Most were As and Bs. Good comps to other undersized guys who have succeeded in the NFL. Everybody seems to think he’s an instant starter.
Ha. Go figure. They did trade up!
I dunno much about the CB they got, but we need CBs, so good.
Experts wondering what's happening to the Florida State lineman.
Ugh, Saints/Wash trade i think hurts Chiefs chances of trading up.
@FarmerJayhawk said in Next Year's Team Thread:
There's a real possibility we trot out Juan, Hunter, Mosley, Jalen 1-4. DEAR GOD.
is that a good DEAR GOD, or a bad dear god?
I repeat myself, i know...but SOMEBODY has to be able to make a 3!
Draft day!
Thought I’d start a thread in case anybody wanted to discuss draft possibilities, and results.
I’m guessing the Chiefs trade UP to get the best available edge rusher, WR or CB,
@BShark said in Next Year's Team Thread:
@RockkChalkk said in Next Year's Team Thread:
If Wilson and Braun leave, next year's team will really be lacking experience.
Probably gotta get some experience in the portal.
Shooting, shooting, shooting! We need shooters!
The ISU dude would be a fine get, but doesn’t fill immediate needs.
SHOOTING! :)
Good for him, but bummer for us.
Was cruising the mock drafts to see where CB is expected to go, and found this gem comparison for any old schoolers:
46 Kansas – HT: 6-6 – WT: 205 – WING: NA – Jr – Braun is a complete player and a crafty scorer who could find a role at the NBA level. Comparison: CRAIG EHLO
@NormRoberts said in 2022 Transfer Portal Thread:
Just because Mj Rice is next level strong already doesn't mean he cant shoot. He can shoot. As Self described him when he commited he is a Pure Scorer. He was at Oak Hill putting up numbers on a sorry Oak Hill teamthen transfer to Prolific Prep. Gradey is a Pure Shooter who can go to the NBA right now and be a above 40% shooter but have to work on Ball Handling more to be the complete package
Not a shot at MJ and his skill, but looking at the bigger picture for team needs. 3 pt shooting stands out as a need to me, that’s all.
@BShark said in 2022 Transfer Portal Thread:
@Kcmatt7 My guess right now is Harris, Transfer, Rice, JWill, Zach/Transfer
Maybe Dick ends up starting over Rice.
Drat, losing Och and CB would really crush our outside shooting ability.
This looks like a great lineup for 1983, but maybe not for the modern outside shooting game. That transfer better be rock solid from 3, and an efficient scorer.
That is if what I’m reading about Rice is accurate...his game is more bully ball slash and powerful than outside threat at this point.
@bskeet KU can’t drive...fifty five! :) 🎸
Here’s a nice, simply stated story on what KU faces.
https://www.npr.org/2022/04/06/1091334394/university-kansas-ncaa-violations ↗
@BShark said in Next Year's Team Thread:
@rockchalkjayhawk said in Next Year's Team Thread:
And just to do math, which isn't my strength!
4 guys coming in
11 guys potentially leaving! Of course that won't happen.
Guessing 3-4 early departures. Impact of transfers will depend on who leaves. Think we do need that scoring guard type regardless.
So that means we prolly need to find 4 guys from the portal, or 5-star unsigned guys :)
Looking forward to the shenanigans in the next few weeks. Go Self and crew!
@BShark said in Next Year's Team Thread:
@rockchalkjayhawk Maybe @FarmerJayhawk can confirm but I'm fairly confident we only asked him to reclass because Bryce left. Bill likes having the roster full.
Makes sense.
And just to do math, which isn't my strength!
4 guys coming in
11 guys potentially leaving! Of course that won't happen.
@BShark said in Next Year's Team Thread:
@rockchalkjayhawk Basically a very athletic guy they took a flyer on. I disliked that they had him reclass up. Really needed the extra year in HS and then still take a RS. I think he's probably 2 years away, skill wise.
yea, the reclass part made it seem like he was a can't miss gotta have kinda guy. confusing.
@BShark said in Next Year's Team Thread:
Hasn't been announced but it will be. :thumbs_up:
Dude was so hyped coming in, right?
@BShark said in Next Year's Team Thread:
Cuffe is a lock to leave.
Gotcha. i'll update my list. thx @BShark
Just to keep it straight in my head...keeping track of the comings and goings.
NEWCOMERS
Gradey Dick / sf
MJ Rice / sf
Ernest Udeh / c
Zuby Ejiofor / pf
LEAVING
Ochai / g
JCL / g
Remy / g
Mitch / c
Cuffe / g
PROBABLY LEAVING
McCormack / c
KINDA MAYBE GOING
Cam / pf-c
KJ / not a guard? ha
Wilson / f
Braun / gf
Joe Y / g
We got some strange math going on! gotta find some guards. Experienced guards.
@approxinfinity said in USMNT:
@rockchalkjayhawk oh god it was brutal. Man city was shell shocked rest of half. I still think Turner should start.
Oh boy. I can imagine the players were steamed.
I recall a few close calls or similar plays at the start of US games. Weird.
Zack, jeebus.
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Danny just hired as an assistant at Louisville.
Needs for next year: shooting
Not sure any of KU’s rumored portal departures fit that role. So I’d guess Self takes on two guardish shooters at least.
One to start, one off the bench.
Wow. Having been twice to the Maui tournament to watch KU, I can tell you that tickets will be extremely tough (expensive) to come by in the secondary market with that lineup. Jeez.
For those of you who haven’t been...it’s awesome!
Looks like KJ was 2019-20, then left for the pros.
No biggie. Just a silly list. If we expand to all time transfers...that’s a better list!
@BShark Oh, shit. ya, totally forgot about his accident. my bad!
@BShark said in 2022 Transfer Portal Thread:
@rockchalkjayhawk said in 2022 Transfer Portal Thread:
Could we make a decent starting five with transfers? :)
PG: Charlie Moore
SG: Bryce Thompson
SF: Tristan Enaruna
PF: Silvio De Sousa
C: Gethro Muscadin? Any others?
Bench: Tyon Grant-Foster, Latrell JossellWouldn't include Gethro in this list sadly. :'(
doh! couldn't recall another center ...
BTW, looks like Latrell made 70 3 pters this season, at 37%. hmmm.
Could we make a decent starting five with transfers? :)
PG: Charlie Moore
SG: Bryce Thompson
SF: Tristan Enaruna
PF: Silvio De Sousa
C: Gethro Muscadin? Any others?
Bench: Tyon Grant-Foster, Latrell Jossell
@bskeet said in Jayhawk Championship Garb...:
Somewhere, I have the first Late Night with Larry Brown t-shirt and the second one that featured Larry Bud Melman.
I also have nearly every Big 12 championship t-shirt through the run of 14 straight.
Mine finally disintegrated a few years back :(
Too soon :)
Don't forget about us non-locals! we need online help...
i ordered a few shirts from what seems to be a reputable site -- Fanatics.
TBD when i get em!
Scouting report on Mosley
STRENGTHS
Big guard that scores in bunches with efficiency
Shot creator and shot maker; Professional scorer
Shifty handle with offensive creativity
Makes defenders dance on his island
Great combination of hesi’s, lift fakes, jab series and reverse pivots
High level isolation scorer
Does most of his damage off the dribble
Strong frame can score in low or mid post
Excellent soft touch finish package
Finishes floaters with both hands
Good rebounder
Efficient shooter from deep
Defenders can’t stop him from getting to his spots
Terrific free throw shooter
AREAS TO IMPROVE | CONCERNS
Can be too isolation focused
NBA role? Can he be a complimentary player?
Passing
Ball stopper? A lot of no pass possessions
Funny looking release on shot but it goes in
AST/TO ratio
@Jethro said in Next Year's Team Thread:
@BeddieKU23 said in Next Year's Team Thread:
I really do hope one of Wilson/Braun returns because that guarantees KU would have a featured player back. Both come back and the ceiling for next year is a lot higher then if only one returns.
Before the tourney started I thought we'd see both back. Now we have no idea what would motivate them to come back.
For Braun he's a Kansas kid, a lifetime KU fan and as we've found out his bond with Dejuan Harris goes a lot further then the basketball court. What does Braun want his legacy to be? It's already sky high. Another year could send it to the rafters like Ochai or he leaves on a high like Mario Chalmers did. His NIL game was just starting to ramp up as the season was ending (merchandise/apparel) so that's another thing that may incentivize him to come back if his draft grade isn't to where he has a guarantee.
For Wilson he's got parts of his game that could use developing. The chance to take on that "alpha" role and be a featured scorer could be the kind of opportunity he needs to change NBA minds.
I'm thinking like you do. Could be wrong, though. I think the starters next year will be Juan/CB/Rice/Wilson/Zach with Nigel Pack coming off the bench. I've learned from Embiid that you can't tell what they will do.
This could be a tough group to start in the “modern” game. I think for sure you need at least one better 3 pt shooter in that mix. Not sure who that is just yet...
Selden update:
Veteran shooting guard Wayne Selden, who began the 2021/22 season with the Knicks, has signed with Ironi Ness Ziona in Israel, the team announced in a press release. Selden has appeared in 127 total NBA games for Memphis, Chicago, New Orleans, and New York since 2016. He spent the 2020/21 campaign with Ironi Ness Ziona, so the move represents a reunion for the two sides
@FarmerJayhawk said in Tarheels Game Thread:
Has it sunk in for anyone yet? I’m still not sure this is real
A strange feeling, huh. Same for me!
@StLJhawk said in Tarheels Game Thread:
Still a bit in shock… this team, these kids, that comeback! Yet again, it’s good to be a Jayhawk
Same here! Still can't believe it!!
wooooooo hoooooo!
Champeenship!
What a comeback! Rock Chalk!