@wissox That Wiscy team was so good!
BShark
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KU has always been in deep with McCormack, good to see some crystal ball action though.
Well, at least I was better last week.
For this week I say...
WVU
TTU
OSU
OU
If we are in fact picking those other games.
UW
UGA but I don't feel great about this pick and might change it.
Grimes will be a great one, hopefully at KU. Like if KU can't get Grimes (for all the reasons that have already been mentioned) it makes you wonder who CAN they get.
BeddieKU23 said:
I agree that Self has a reputation with PG's that is hard to overcome when he's recruiting the very best in the land. Dotson should be a player Self can get though. There has been a significant amount of time and effort placed on securing his commitment.
What is Mike White offering that Self can't? Mike White certainly has even less of a reputation for putting his players into the NBA.
I would say Devon and his family putting his NBA future in the hands of Mike White is a far riskier move then Bill Self. And while Dotson has seen his stock rise considerably from where it was in the spring I wouldn't consider him a 1st round type at the moment unless he magically becomes a better athlete and perimeter shooter. I would also question what Florida has put into the league that stands out at the point guard position?
I honestly don't think it matters much where Dotson goes. Florida has been on him a long time too. All that said it would be a tough miss to swallow, especially since Self/the staff made the choice to go hard after Grimes and Dotson when they could have just as easily pressed on Carey and/or Ayo who I believe KU had a great shot at before slow playing due to Grimes/Dotson.
Honestly if Dotson goes to UF then Grimes becomes a near must land recruit. And I'm hesitant to say that any recruit is must land for KU. KU would obviously move on if Grimes picked UK (he very well might, as UK wants the first to commit of Grimes and Keldon Johnson) but it would be pretty awful when you consider... His mom went to KU, he is an Adidas kid, KU was his third D1 offer/has been on him since forever and he is tremendously talented.
wrwlumpy said:
Svi realized that bigger $ comes after this year, but the real reason he came back is he wants a National Championship. He has become that wonderful thing that is dear to all Jayhawk fans - a starting Senior ready to make Brass Knuckles out of Gold Rings. This year, he has all the tools. Imagine Svi, Vick, Dante and Malik on the court at the same time. Someone will always be open and someone will always get the ball to that man.
Autocorrect got ya lumps.
But yeah, the team will be at it's best offensively imo with Devonte, Newman, Svi, Vick and Doke on the court. Doke being out there will also hopefully mitigate some defensive issues.
Most spots are pretty set. Newman and Graham are the starting guards and will play a ton. Doke is the starting 5.
The four spot will be intriguing. Preston being the main back-up 5 plus his perceived effort issues mean that we will see a lot of experimenting at the 4. A mix of Svi/Vick/Garrett/Lightfoot/Cunliffe. At this point I like Garrett a lot more than Cunliffe at the 3 or 4. Garrett and Preston (or whoever doesn't start out of Vick/Svi if Self wants to start Preston) should be the main bench players imo. Cunliffe and Lightfoot will play due to need but I think they are hold your breath when they are out there players like Jamari and wouldn't be seeing time on a lot of other Self rosters.
Looks like Beaty's mom joined the forum. We're movin' on up.
McCormack has scheduled a visit to OSU for Oct 13th. Doubt he commits before then.
Dotson I think he does though. I think it's Florida.
Must be nice to have a decent football program. Dotson and his dad sure looked like they were into that game... Would suck if Florida football just helped them land Dotson.
And yeah if Grimes ends up at UK I just...fwrlt241351 3l41rw4...
Looks like a PF but I doubt it hurts KU. I think KU is well positioned here.
Welp, done with KUFball this year.
BeddieKU23 said:
McCormack is coming back for late night not even a month after unofficially visiting here. I think KU has been able to get in his ear about Doke's pending NBA decision and the opportunity for him here. He's an Adidas kid as well which helps.
Steve Smith, his coach for Oak Hill said he enjoyed his unoffical here and that NC St & Xavier were also schools he was considering with Duke/UCLA also trying to get visits (if he makes it that far). This was his quote " I don’t know if he’ll go past September, he’s getting kind of antsy and I think he likes a couple schools."
If NC St & Xavier are the biggest competition then we have to like our chances. The way he's changed his body and has started to play through the change he's made he's got NBA upside down the road. I think KU with Hudy and its history with bigs is the perfect spot for him. There might even be a starting spot for grabs when he gets here..
Agree. He'd also be a good fit at KU which seems important to him.
Also it's not IMG or Brewster but current staff at KU seems to have an ok relationship with Oak Hill.
I'm not saying the crystal ball is completely irrelevant, but it's not the whole picture.
He eliminated Georgetown in his last cut down.
KU still rocking a 0% on Silvio De Sousa's crystal ball.
KU, Xavier and NC State are the players with McCormack with that caveat that if Duke ever amped it up they'd be in strong contention.
If Vick is back he at least provides some scoring punch. A line-up of Moore, Garrett, Cunliffe or KJ, Dedric and De Sousa would struggle to score. Dedric the only proven scorer among them. Spacing nightmare. Of course I'm probably worrying about nothing but I'm interested to see who Self ends up with.
We need actual games to start this season already.
@HighEliteMajor I'd take that. Self probably would too.
@Kcmatt7 If Vick is gone I think 3 starters would need to be signed for KU to be really good again.
Because he wants to visit KU for a game.
Self has missed on kids before by taking the other approach and telling the kid they will have to earn it. Maybe he changes it up based on his read on the kid now. From everything I've read before this is very much inline with it. Comments such as Grimes knows he has a starting spot at KU if he wants it etc...
If KU gets Grimes but doesn't get Zion I could see him and Dedric being the primary offensive options. The kid is an electric scorer.
Grimes broke down the pitch and what he likes most about his four finalists:
Texas: Coach Smart has really stressed how me and Matt Coleman could complement each other perfectly. Matt’s more of a passing point guard and I’m more of a scoring guard and he’d be able to look for me and we’d be able to play really well in that offense. I know most of those guys there because most of those guys are from Houston and I feel like we could play really well together in their system.
Kentucky: They came in on Sunday and their main pitch is to see me and another guard they get to be able to come in there and have the same goal, which is win a National Championship and just really get to the next level. They feel like they would be a great fit for me to get to my goals of making the NBA and also develop me on the court as a leader and as a person off the court. That was their pitch.
Kansas: They say I’m their top priority right now and they have to sign me. They see me coming in and playing right away and being the leader of that team and being the primary scorer and lead the team in scoring and be able to play with other good guards and other good players like the Lawson brothers. I could come in and be the man at Kansas for sure.
Marquette: They’ve been consistent the whole summer. They were 3 deep at almost every game and front row at every game. Their whole message is I’m the only guard they are recruiting. Come in there and be in the backcourt with Markus Howard. He’s a shooter and we can both shoot the ball pretty well and really just take over the program and try and take it to the new level.
@Kcmatt7 That line-up has no depth and one guard. However of course the staff will land more players, who they will be I do not know. I read a lot of concerning stuff about Dotson, we will see.
Oh and apparently KU made Antwann Jones final 4. He does not have a KU offer. Top 75 guard.
Winners
WVU
Ohio
ISU
Okie Lite
Duke
TCU
OU
KSU
TTU
USC
Grimes has cancelled his KU visit and will visit Kentucky on that date instead.
@jayballer54 I'm calling it now based on what I'm reading.
Zion Griffin to ISU.
Dotson will go to UF it appears. Carey is down to Cuse/UConn/Miami because KU didn't prioritize him. Already out on Locke and others.
Maybe if the staff tries really hard they can get back in there with Dosunmu.
Hopefully Grimes is a Jayhawk and the staff only has to go rummage through the heap for a single guard and not two.
U G L Y.
@jayballer54 This mediocre team has beat Big 12 teams before...
@Texas-Hawk-10 Thanks.
His arm talent is pretty good. So, he's going to look better than some others with a clean pocket. He certainly looks better than Bender.
Btw have they said why Sims isn't playing on offense?
lol
Whew, Wise gets to stay in the game!
jayballer54 said:
@BShark Na not really sure he is that good or our Defense is just really bad. -- -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Overall is he great? Maybe not. But trust me he is very good when he can set his feet and have a clean pocket. So, maybe a bit of a practice warrior but will look good when the other team can't get pressure on him.
CMU giving KU a gift running bootlegs with Morris. Kid can't throw on the run. But then....KU commits a dumbass penalty....
Morris is REALLY good when he has time to set his feet. Gotta get pressure.
Within 4 pts of a MAC school. PROGRESS.... :poop:
Same old same old....
Well, first drive sucked.
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
Is it weird that I want Quentin Grimes more than Zion Williamson?
Grimes is a bigger need, so no.
Agree. They made Brady throw into tight windows. I was defending Sutton early in the game on other boards too. Berry was a big part of taking out Gronk and unfortunately he is out for the year now. Really the only negative about last night.
Add Hunt to Hill and Kelce. That kid is a weapon and a great fit for Andy's offense.
BeddieKU23 said:
Agreed, he's proven already that he can't coach his teams how to score the ball even after having 2 1st round picks in the post on his team. Bamba will be the third. If the summer games have any foreshadowing they will suck again
Imagine KU last year with Jarrett Allen.......
BeddieKU23 said:
RockkChalkk said:
Devon Dotson's visit to UF this weekend has been cancelled.
It should be good news but we know this prolongs his announcement now if he sets up a return visit...
Not surprising. Already looking to reschedule I think.
Better start winning some games this year. There is talent on that roster.
One time KU target Jamie Lewis is reopening his recruitment. Doesn't look like he had a great summer.
A lot of this win was Andy Reid. Especially the first half where Alex was really not great but Andy did a lot of schemin and had multiple gotcha type plays. It's easy to not appreciate Andy because he has never won a super bowl but that was an incredible gameplan last night.
Crimsonorblue22 said:
Hope Eric Berry didn't tear his Achilles!
I hope so too, if only hope mattered. REEEEEALLY looked like he did. :(
jayballer54 said:
@BShark True, but I've got a feeling Coach would have some tendency to allow him to play through some of his mistakes - I hope anyways and I think he would I've am getting a good feeling about him.
I'm now for seeing this class possibly - pretty decent chance at landing this: Ok, already got De Sousa, then we land McCormack, Grimes & Dotson - and " MAYBE " a chance of Williamson - -I could live with that - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
I have no doubt he would play, it just sounds like what other coaches are pushing since the kid mentioned it.
The only negative part would be how much mentioned wanting to play through mistakes. That seems like the kind of thing other coaches would bring up against Self.
I think this kid would be a great addition.