KUSTEVE said:
@BeddieKU23 i think they'll let him go at the end of the year anyway. Too much fall out from the Book Richardson scandal, along with the Trier drug thing. Even if the "bribery story" falls apart, he has one too many strikes against him to stay in place, imo.
Agreed it's not over for him
Miller will remain the Arizona coach it seems.
Still a board of regents meeting this afternoon.
But they definitely gave Miller a platform to set the record straight
Arizona having a press conference soon.
Reading Arizona's board it seems the President and Boosters are behind Miller and sounds as if he's going to be reinstated with some new terms in his contract.. A day ago it seemed as if he would be fired and that could still be the case but there seems to be more support to keep him then it looks
BucknellJayhawk3 said:
Son of a superstar seeking the LA spotlight, makes sense to me. Were we actually a finalist for Shareef? Speaking of Hollywood & basketball, anyone excited for the Uncle Drew movie? Those commercials always cracked me up.
No we were not a finalist. We showed interest a long time ago and went elsewhere
mayjay said:
@BeddieKU23 Hard to imagine a Shaq sprout being too light!
6'9 205 if he's lucky. Just a 6'10 wingspan so he's definitely not the physical specimen Shaq was. I think his son has tried hard to differentiate his game from his dad. Can't blame him.
mayjay said:
@BeddieKU23 Maybe they can pay 100 large to get a big from a local program?
That's a good one!
I think the Suns would be thrilled to get Ayton, he's a terrific player. They have whiffed hard drafting bigs lately. Alex Len, Bender, Chriss.. Yikes Suns franchise is a mess
mayjay said:
@BeddieKU23 How is his FT skill? Did he inherit the bad gene?
He didn't. Not from what I've seen of him.
Shareef shoots like a guard. He's similar to Billy Preston in that regard, although O'Neal will have to work hard with the S&C coach to put on good weight and muscle as he's a bit light for being a 6'9ish prospect. He will become a good College player if he buys in and puts in the work. There are concerns that won't happen
DCHawker said:
@BeddieKU23 Interesting that all of the focus is on Vick's offense - or lack thereof. We don't need him to be a primary scorer - we have 4 others that can do that - he just needs to be a threat to score. What we do need is for him to be halfway interested in defense and helping out with rebounding. Notwithstanding his athletic capabilities, there are way too many instances in which he just stands around on defense. And, the next time he blocks out his man on a missed shot will be the first time. I really thought he had a chance to be our best defender - a stopper - but it hasn't played out that way. It appears to be primarily an effort issue rather than capability. I don't think he needs to score more than 7-8 points a game if he is really engaged and contributing in other areas - which hasn't been the case...
I've chosen to focus on his offense because I believe that's the one area he'd help this team the most going forward. When he shoots well he plays harder which transitions into his defense and effort. In the flow of our offense Vick see's the ball a lot on the wing in a scoring position and its been shocking to see the lack of confidence he has in himself to make a play and finish a play. He came into KU with a scorer's mentality, even as a sophomore he was a spark plug off the bench often giving this team an intriguing scoring option. He started off the year red hot and then what happened? He had a nice 3 game stretch after some Self motivation and then the last two games we've seen clear evidence that's worn off.
I want him to be a double digit scorer in the tourney, I believe its the most attainable goal Vick can reach in his current state.
Shareef is good. It's ironic seeing the difference in skill Shaq's son has compared to his father. O'Neal likes to roam the perimeter, has a legitimate 3 point shot and is the prototypical 4 man in today's game. Alford got himself a heck of a duo in Moses Brown & O'Neal. He's going to earn his money coaching these kids because both of them have OAD dreams without the OAD game.
No I don't put more stock in that scenario. Coaches like Chris Beard of Tech, Chris Holtmann of Ohio St, Bruce Pearl of Auburn, Rick Barnes of Tennessee fit the bill. Each has done a wonderful job this year considering the low expectations for all of those teams.
Depends really. Winning #14 gives Self a record no other coach or team has. Otherwise our 24-6 record is no different then any other year in the Self regime. Virginia is having an outstanding year and they simply defend better then any team in the country every night.
I think the race is between Bennett, Self, Mack of Xavier & Holtmann of Ohio St.
Kcmatt7 said:
@BeddieKU23 He's going to be a big surprise next season. I think once he has an entire season of film and time to work on everything, he will be a different player. Not to mention, I wouldn't be surprised to see him add 10-15 lbs of muscle in the offseason.
Had a career high last night against the Grizzlies.
29 pts 7 boards 4 assists 2 steals 2 blocks. 10-13 from the FT line.
I agree I expect to see him improve next season. The key is how much the Suns invest in actually getting better. They have zero veteran leadership and they lack a big who can give them consistent scoring. Bender and Chriss have not been the answer so far.
bskeet said:
BeddieKU23 said:
Don't think ESPN is hitching their Wagon on KU anymore.
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/insider/story/_/id/22596994/high-seeds-danger ↗
No. 1 Kansas Jayhawks
Even though BPI rates Xavier as the worst No. 1 seed by a decent margin, the current batch of second-round opponents for the top seeds are, overall, a worse matchup for Kansas.Like Xavier, they lack elite wins.
And how exactly does the most elite team get an elite win?
Can't make this stuff up. I'm wondering myself
I know the Suns are tanking but Josh Jackson has quietly put up 9 20 point games since January. Shooting the ball better. Good to see
I agree. Vick averaged 7 points in the tourney last year and on-que was 2-8 in the game we lost against Oregon so that would seem to support what we think could happen in that situation.
Looking at Vick's stats during this year in losses we have a tale of 2 season's really.
In Non-Conference Vick had 28 & 25 in losses to Washington & ASU. In Conference he's averaged 5 points a game in our 4 losses and contributed very little elsewhere statistically.
If Vick finds a way to be a consistent scorer in the tourney we have a legitimate chance of winning the whole thing.
Maybe the change from conference opponents to unknown opponents with just a few days to scout him will benefit him. I'm really trying to find any edge to grasp onto at this point because it can be the difference in staying alive. Vick simply needs to play up to his ability
Whoa this one went sideways fast. Never a dull moment. First we are UK not KU. Self is getting extra benefits. KU has a bigger stick.
My day is complete
OU continues to plunge. Just when they got a much needed home win against K-St they go ahead and get crushed at Baylor. I don't know how much the committee is going to care about the margin as much as the amount of games they have lost in the past month. If they care about both OU is in danger of not going to the dance if they don't win another game the rest of the year.
I think K-St is safely in unless they completely screw up from here on out.
Texas has played themselves out unless they get a miracle. Injury to Bamba and Davis being out doesn't help their cause.
Oklahoma St would need to beat KU and have a run for the ages in the Big-12 tourney to get in at this point.
Outside the Big-12, Auburn continues to fall since the injury to their big. I'm shocked they are still considered on the 3 line. Best win all year @ Tennessee? Getting exposed IMO.
I don't think the UNC lost does much for them. If they beat Duke on Saturday on the road that's a big resume boost having the season sweep. Miami has had two very lucky breaks in the past week.
Florida keeps itself off the bubble line with an important road victory. Alabama should not make the tournament
Hawk8086 said:
@BeddieKU23 MAYBE the 3 pointer moving back...that would be it for me.
I would be okay with that one as well. We have seen the NIT be the guinea pig for potential changes before. I highly doubt all four would happen at the same time. We could see all four trickled in over time.
Don't think ESPN is hitching their Wagon on KU anymore.
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/insider/story/_/id/22596994/high-seeds-danger ↗
No. 1 Kansas Jayhawks
Even though BPI rates Xavier as the worst No. 1 seed by a decent margin, the current batch of second-round opponents for the top seeds are, overall, a worse matchup for Kansas.
The Jayhawks, who rank seventh overall in BPI, have three major weaknesses: depth, rebounding and Udoka Azubuike's free throw shooting. The bench plays just 20.1 percent of minutes available, the fourth-lowest rate in Division I, per KenPom. Although that is not explicitly a factor in either BPI or our Giant Killers model, it does suggest that the Jayhawks are permanently on thin ice with their bigs. Azubuike's free throw shooting -- on consecutive attempts Monday vs. Texas, he hit the backboard and then air-balled short -- certainly could force the star big man to the bench at times in late, close-game situations. And their struggles on the boards makes the Jayhawks susceptible to matchup problems against certain types of teams. Missouri, Kansas' worst-case scenario among current No. 8 and No. 9 seeds, barely has a positive GK Factor over the Jayhawks but rebounding is the reason it is positive at all. Missouri would have a 26 percent chance to beat Kansas on a neutral court, while Kansas averages an 81 percent chance to win against the entire current group of possible second-round opponents.
http://www.espn.com/sportsnation/story/_/id/22586745/predictions-every-conference-tournament ↗
Our pick: West Virginia
Kansas has won just one of the past four Big 12 tournaments, despite winning the regular-season title each season, and West Virginia has lost in the title game each of the past two seasons. The Mountaineers’ Press Virginia style is draining on opponents on short rest.
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/22519688/jay-bilas-gets-set-march ↗
Kansas hasn't looked like a top-five team for much of the season, but the Jayhawks might have the best pure résumé in the country in terms of wins. Their Quadrant 1 record is 11-3 and their Quadrant 1 and 2 record is an astonishing 18-5, both tops nationally. A 14th straight Big 12 regular-season title is another feather in their cap. Like Xavier, they lack elite wins.
KUSTEVE said:
@BeddieKU23 I was under the impression he met with Az big wigs. I have not seen where he met with the FBI Monday. Do you have a link?
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2761778-sean-miller-arizona-reportedly-met-to-discuss-coachs-future-amid-fbi-probe ↗ ↗
Your right he met with Arizona not the FBI. I got the two confused. I retract my statement on the FBI, innocent part
Stubby met with the University to discuss his future. He was not at UA's practice Tuesday...
Arizona obviously has a lot of pressure to decide soon whether Miller is going to continue coaching the team or are they going to head into a direction of eventually firing him.
The actual tapes are sealed in court.
It would be a gigantic blunder if ESPN reported what they did and it had no validity. That could be just as damaging as the actual report.
Not seeing the Nike connection seeing how Arizona is Nike as well and is one of the premiere West Coast programs.
I'll take what your selling
Hawk8086 said:
@BeddieKU23 I don't like it. Seems like change just to change things. I like things the way they are.
On all of them? I can see a few of these being positive changes.
drgnslayr said:
I don't see us going too far in March without Vick bringing a lot more game. His play is vital because he is a starter and has been all year. Being a starter all year makes him a key. And if he starts playing aggressive our entire team will skip up an entire gear!
I'm torn on that statement. I'm a big fan of Vick's game but this season for him has been really disappointing to watch to be honest. If Vick was anywhere as consistent as our top 3 we'd be the best offensive team in the country. I really do believe that because the athletic ability that Vick has is in the Top 5% of all D-1 but he doesn't always use it.
For example take Zhaire Smith of Texas Tech. In my opinion pound for pound one of the 5 best athletes in the country but what elevates his ability is his effort and drive to make plays. Smith impacted the game against KU last Saturday in a lot of ways and we really didn't have an answer for him. Vick was on a string trying to guard him. I was thinking half the time this is what Vick should be for KU. This is what I'm imagining Self has been trying to push Lagerald towards for the past year. Maybe that's still a year away from happening and I've put expectations on him he's not ready to reach yet. I asked the question earlier this season when Vick was knee deep in a downward spiral, is Vick not as good as we think he is? I'm still struggling with that question.
I don't think if we lose in the tourney the blame will be on Vick. I think if we are in a position to lose its going to be a team breakdown. Not rebounding as a team, a poor 3 point shooting game, lack of defensive effort. The most likely individual that has the biggest impact on KU's chances is Doke in foul trouble which limits his minutes. Everything changes with him on the floor.
If Vick gets 8-10 a night in the tourney he improves our chances of outscoring teams and putting less pressure on every other aspect of the game. I do agree that we cannot have off games because we only go 7 deep regularly. I'm really hopeful Vick picks the end of the season to finish strong. We'll see what he's got to give
Thoughts?
• A deeper 3-point line. It will be moved back approximately 20 inches to the distance used by FIBA in international competition (22 feet, 1.75 inches).
• A wider free throw lane. It will be extended from 12 to 16 feet, which is used in the NBA.
• Quarters, not halves. The game will still have 40 minutes of game clock, but it will be broken into four 10-minute quarters, which was adopted for the women's college game in 2015. For each quarter, two free throws are awarded once a team reaches five fouls.
• After an offensive rebound, the shot clock will reset to 20 seconds, as opposed to the full 30.
Permanent rule changes to the sport cannot be made until the current two-year cycle ends in May 2019.
JayHawkFanToo said:
Not nearly as dominating last year or with elite players. Very good team though and well coached. I like Mark Few, he runs a really good and clean program.
Gonzaga still has a few NBA players and I think at least 4 guys from last year's run came back but it's definitely not the stacked roster they had last yr. I don't think they will be an easy out the way they have played for the past month or so
BShark said:
Self visiting Matt Hurt again tonight. He sure seems like our top priority in 2019.
Keeping the pedal to the medal on that one. Despite hurts ranking I think he's a type that would be in college past a year which is always a good thing.
If we pull a hurt, achiuwa, JRE triple holy cow
jayballer73 said:
BeddieKU23 said:
BShark said:
Impossible to not cry during Graham's speech.
That was brutal.
Great young man, glad he's a hawk for life
Whew that's a relief. - I thought I was the only one that did that - I thought man here I am crying harder then them - -both of them - if you didn't know how big these guys hearts were before - - - - -YOU DO NOW I have watched these and re watched and re watched. - -I think this has to be one of the most emotional Senior nights I remember. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Devonte, frank, Mari some of the recent ones I've melted down watching. We have spent 4 years with the ups and downs with these guys, it's like having a pet you love but have to let go after a few years. Senior night is special here.
What's kind of sad thinking towards next year is if Vick isn't back there will be no seniors on the roster..
Gonzaga got a #1 seed last year in the same conference. They just seem to be forgotten this year because they don't have as sexy a roster and not as many big wins this year. Had they beaten Villanova in the NC they would absolutely be a #1 seed candidate. The lack of a "star" win keeps their resume below the level that usually gets a 1 seed..
justanotherfan said:
Gonzaga has one bad loss, to San Diego State. They only have seven top 100 wins. If they played in a power conference, they would have a resume roughly equal to Michigan State. But in the WCC, that's a tough sell.
The one thing they have going for them is that all of their top 50 wins were by double figures. They beat Ohio State by 27. They beat Creighton by 17. They went up to Washington and beat the Huskies by 17. They went on the road and beat St. Mary's by 13 (lost by 3 to the Gaels in Spokane). That's a reasonably good resume. The only team to beat them by more than six was Villanova. But I think they are short on quality wins.
That SD St loss hurts them as SD St isn't the same team that was a perennial tourney team anymore. I was just throwing their name out there. I think they are likely a #3 seed given the resume, maybe a 2 if some teams falter in the next week and they go into the dance with that guady record.
I know Michigan St has a championship caliber team but shouldn't the committee be using them as a perfect example to schedule more aggressively in the non-conference. A power 5 team doesn't deserve a #1 seed if you have played as few of Top 100 teams as they have. I know the Big-10 has had as many as 7 teams have down seasons all at once which can't be predicted but between the NC and the Big-10 conference inequality Michigan St should be a # 2 seed at best come Selection Sunday. We'll see what happens over the next 12 days
JayHawkFanToo said:
TTU learned the hard way what it is like to be at the top and have a bull's eye on your back with all teams gunning for you. KU is used to it, in fact it seems to thrive in it.
Tech definitely felt the pressure. The perfect storm though occurred with Evans getting injured and having some road games that exposed them just a bit. 17 of their 22 wins at home is something to keep in mind as we fill out our brackets.
The good thing for is we've proven to be the same team no matter the venue.There have been many years where KU is so dominate at home and good enough on the road/neutral that we see different versions of the team depending on where the game is played. Outside of a great shooting game in Allen Fieldhouse Tech has been a below average away from Lubbock. I'm hoping our success away from home is something these guys can continue to fuel a championship run
Any chance Gonzaga is an outside chance of a #1 seed. I see them creeping up the rankings again and another win over Saint Mary's would put them around 30-4 heading into the dance.
Resume isn't terrible, not great- wins over Ohio St, Texas, Creighton, Washington, Saint Mary's -Losses to Villanova, Saint Mary's, Florida, San Diego St.
I'm not lobbying for them but they seem to be under the radar a bit compared to last season and are having another great season by Gonzaga standards.
BShark said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
I really doubt it's UK for Hagans. My guess is he stays in state. Either Tech or wait to see who replaces Mark Fox at UGA.
Interesting.
Matt mentioned KU won't be getting involved.
Not surprised given the studs we got already. I wouldn't trade Hagans for either of our guards
I agree we need to stay positive with him because we need him at his best when it counts. We seem to remember his negative plays more then his positives. Vick should be more consistent by now, his 3 game stretch before the Tech/Texas games was the best he's looked since the non-conference. So did the motivation wear off that Self had pushed him towards? Vick is still the missing piece to what seems to be 6 and even Silvio (7) guys who have completely bought into what's ahead.. Can KU survive with a squeaky wheel?
KUSTEVE said:
@BeddieKU23 i love watching Garrett play. I find myself watching him instead of the play on both offense and defense. He's just so active on both sides of the ball, and he has sneaky quick speed. That drive to the basket was just flat amazing.
I find myself doing the same thing.
Up to 10 made 3's on the year.. Still making 62% of 2's on the year is an important stat. Very good finisher around the rim
BShark said:
The front court is going to be insane next year. KJ would start this year at the 4 and he's gonna be like the third or fourth guy depending on how Silvio progresses.
I really like Silvio and he'd start just about anywhere next year. Crazy depth we'll have
BShark said:
@BeddieKU23 Green is getting the axe if Hagans goes to UK. No way he wants to be the third PG on the roster. I'm sure either way we will hear more soon. Hagans doesn't even technically have a UK offer at this point.
I would take Hagans over Green if I was picking a side. I'm not a big Quade fan, wasn't in HS and I'm not surprised he's struggled a bit as a freshman. Syracuse could have really used him this season
BShark said:
@BeddieKU23 They could finish 4th. TCU KSU is big tonight for the final standings.
If TCU wins out and KSU wins their last game that will be 3 teams at 10-8.
Good to know. I still want Tech/WVU to finish 2-3 so that they play each other in the semi's of the Big-12 tourney
BShark said:
@BeddieKU23 I expect Doke will be back at this point.
I hope so, I've voiced my reservations on that but the Dedric/Doke bash brother tandem would be something we haven't seen in years at KU
BShark said:
@BeddieKU23 Yep. Great on ball defense all game. And his stat line is a perfect glue guy/stat stuffer: 11/4/3/3/1
If we get that stat line by Jr & Sr year we'll be happy. I am putting this out now, he will be one of our 3 best players his last 2 seasons. Hopefully he lives up to that
BShark said:
Bosthawk said:
Meanwhile garret had a very SOLID game last night
Self in the post game said Garrett was one of our two best players last night.
His defense was absolutely terrific last night. We get 3 more years of this kid too.
BShark said:
@BeddieKU23 So weird that they were good to go for the KU game. :thinking:
Of course, the game meant something especially with Gameday. After losing it seems Beard choose the future over the game vs WVU. I don't blame him, he could ill afford to lose either for the stretch run with both recovering from injuries. The Collapse of Tech in a week has been epic
BShark said:
@BeddieKU23 Yeah you are right it would not make a lot of sense. Green should stick around and they have Quickley. Maybe it will be another school after all.
I believe Green has been coming off the bench- still playing starters minutes but Alexander has been the primary PG during the recent stretch. QG is going to be a good 4 year guard for Calipari if he doesn't become the next Ryan Harrow.
But I have a hard time believing he's reclassifying to join Quickley and Green. Stranger things have happened of course.
BShark said:
BeddieKU23 said:
BShark said:
JRE was at this game too apparently.
good sign. can see what his future senior night holds?
Great game to be at.
damn good recruiting edge right there.
We really need at least 1 of - Doke, Newman & Vick to return, in that order. 2 of 3 would be basically the situation we ended up in last off-season waiting on Svi & Devonte. If we can get 2 starters to return we have a tremendous amount of talent for next season.
I would really like to see Newman return after the turnaround we have seen from him. I started thinking he didn't fit here but he's proving me wrong. Having seen what Frank did last year on the sidelines and now playing alongside Graham I see no reason why Malik wouldn't consider wanting to do the same next season leading a young but talented bunch. If Malik wanted to get back to being a leader and being the man this is his chance to do so and in my opinion is the only way he's going to play himself into a NBA contract.
BShark said:
@BeddieKU23 Hagans reclassing to 2018. I guess we will find out shortly who was behind this power play.
Spoiler: UK
ridiculous its not like they need another PG. Not understanding if its UK related
kjayhawks said:
Tech taking a big hit in seeding here the last week, Evans didn’t play tonight and WVU jumped out to a 16-0 lead in a easy win.
Zach Smith didn't play either. Seems like Beard was content to rest them from this game due to style of play and physicality and take the L
BShark said:
JRE was at this game too apparently.
good sign. can see what his future senior night holds?
BShark said:
Impossible to not cry during Graham's speech.
That was brutal.
Great young man, glad he's a hawk for life