@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Other bball news:
Talk about a what if scenario. KU was runner up for both Beal and Otto Porter in 2011. Does KU win the title that year with those two on the team along with the other pieces KU had?
If we get both? Absolutely. Beal probably starts over EJ and Porter plays more than Justin Wesley. Less Teahan and Wesley gets us over the hump against UK in that game the way were playing.
Worth keeping tabs on if something weird happens. https://247sports.com/Player/Frank-Anselem-46055566/ ā
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@Crimsonorblue22 said in Life after flattening?:
@FarmerJayhawk did it smell really bad?
Not that I remember! It was eerie seeing all the vacant floors there though.
@Crimsonorblue22 the approps chair. I think it was about 5 years old at the time, so that would make it almost 10 now. Turns out itās insanely expensive to get rid of Docking because the power plant for the Capitol complex is in the basement.
@Crimsonorblue22 said in Life after flattening?:
@FarmerJayhawk so how can that not be accounted for? How would you know that?
Government gonna government. We were doing a fact finding mission looking at the stateās building needs and while we were in the basement of Docking we see this big pallet of stuff all wrapped in plastic. One member asked what it was and the research staffer along told us about the computer equipment. I think it made the local papers later. We were all dumbfounded.
Fun story from my days at the state. The state bought $10 million in computer hardware and the agencies never even took it out of Saran Wrap. It was in the basement of Docking until a year or two ago when they donated it to K-State.
Luckily my bottle shop started delivery service so the brewskies are still around at my place!
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Not going to lie, I legit laughed out loud at the line about $5000/plate for orphaned lemurs
@approxinfinity said in The democratic nominee:
@FarmerJayhawk it is disturbing, I agree. So this study is from Feb 2020 right? I would be very curious what the results of the same study would look like in previous years, for instance pre-Trump.
Hopefully this is a reflection of undergrads perception of the toxicity in Washington, projecting it on their peers who endorse each respective party, and if you subtract Trump and Fox News more extreme bullshit years, i.e. the current faces of the Republican party, liberal students will find a more favorable, tolerant stance toward the other side.
If I assumed that all Republicans rely on Fox for their information I'd have a pretty negative impression as well.
Maybe these voices of tolerance and rational thought from the right need to be heard and seen.
I think it's a product of a couple things. First being "reverse polarization," the phenomenon where the other side looks worse and worse, so people end up voting against the other side vs. for their side. The other major factor is the rise of "woke culture" on college campuses. Where speech is considered violence so it's ok to counter "violence" with more extreme action. I remember Chancellor Gray-Little was shouted down at KU once for "enabling systematic racism" even though she grew up as a black woman in the Jim Crow South. Madness. These people put so much weight on identity and so little on everything else it drowns out any hope of rational discussion. You can't bring up liberalism without someone dismissing it as "just a bunch of old, white, cis-men talking to each other."
Folks on both sides are increasingly unable to grapple with ideas and increasingly able to play the identity card, which stifles real dialogue.
@benshawks08 said in The democratic nominee:
@FarmerJayhawk said in The democratic nominee:
@DoubleDD said in The democratic nominee:
@approxinfinity said in The democratic nominee:
@DoubleDD said in The democratic nominee:
@kjayhawks said in The democratic nominee:
@DoubleDD @approxinfinity @DanR We have to be able to see it from the other side without insulting and fighting each other. There is truth to both sides. Have the Dems labeled virtually everything Trump has done including his initial China travel ban racist? Yes, without question. Has Trump back tracked and gave circular reasoning? Yes, without question.
Iām not the one calling names. Iām just posting a different point of view. I guess itās like how a conservative speaker canāt speak on on a college campus anymore for fear of their life. And conservatives are naziās?
Some extreme trolling right here. I didn't call it dumbass trolling. Just extreme trolling.
Yet is it not true? Are not conservatives refrained on college campuses? For the colleges canāt give them the protection needed. What are these kids being taught? Doesnāt the media treat and even says the rep party is Nazism? Just saying
As an instructor at a college campus I can say a couple things on this. 1) liberals are much more resistant to hearing opposing ideas than conservatives 2) this doesnāt necessarily mean conservatives are oppressed 3) Iāve had conservatives come up to me and say thank you for trying to include all sides of a conversation since theyāre obviously a distinct minority.
Reading this board would convince me conservatives are more resistant to hearing opposing ideas with @DoubleDD as the prime example. Conservatives right now, led by trump are looking for every opportunity to play the victim and itās as sincere as those procedural arguments you brought up earlier. Itās trumps playbook over and over. Take the position of the attacked so that it looks like punching up even though he has the highest office in the land and the only direction he can punch (or would ever have the courage to) is down. Notice how in most of the clips of him berating reporters, they are women and often women of color. He is the typical bully who is afraid of everyone even though heās the biggest kid on the playground. So tired of the conservatives who accuse others of being snowflakes and the PC police having absolutely no spine to handle legitimate criticism.
If we think back to the one thing Jaybate was consistent on in his posts it was that the world is rarely one way or the other, it is always both. Are there people who criticize trumps every move without regard for whether they even might agree with it? Yes. Does that mean other critiques are automatically null and void?
Iāve seen @approxinfinity admit he was wrong, ask questions, and appreciate opposing views that he doesnāt share. Iāve seen most other folks on the board do the same thing. But when it comes to Trump there are some who simply refuse to see the plain facts for what they are and I donāt think this post or any other will change that but itās disappointing as hell and makes me afraid for the future of our country, honestly. A country I love, despite what others may tell you I believe or feel.
To be clear this isnāt just my opinion. I said at my campus liberals are generally more hostile to free speech than conservatives. This isnāt just anecdotes. No, itās not the population as a whole, itās UNC undergrads. But the patterns are disturbing nonetheless. https://fecdsurveyreport.web.unc.edu/files/2020/02/UNC-Free-Expression-Report.pdf ā
@DoubleDD said in The democratic nominee:
@FarmerJayhawk said in The democratic nominee:
@DoubleDD said in The democratic nominee:
@approxinfinity said in The democratic nominee:
@DoubleDD said in The democratic nominee:
@kjayhawks said in The democratic nominee:
@DoubleDD @approxinfinity @DanR We have to be able to see it from the other side without insulting and fighting each other. There is truth to both sides. Have the Dems labeled virtually everything Trump has done including his initial China travel ban racist? Yes, without question. Has Trump back tracked and gave circular reasoning? Yes, without question.
Iām not the one calling names. Iām just posting a different point of view. I guess itās like how a conservative speaker canāt speak on on a college campus anymore for fear of their life. And conservatives are naziās?
Some extreme trolling right here. I didn't call it dumbass trolling. Just extreme trolling.
Yet is it not true? Are not conservatives refrained on college campuses? For the colleges canāt give them the protection needed. What are these kids being taught? Doesnāt the media treat and even says the rep party is Nazism? Just saying
As an instructor at a college campus I can say a couple things on this. 1) liberals are much more resistant to hearing opposing ideas than conservatives 2) this doesnāt necessarily mean conservatives are oppressed 3) Iāve had conservatives come up to me and say thank you for trying to include all sides of a conversation since theyāre obviously a distinct minority.
You are the exception. I believe you. You are smarter and better at expressing your thoughts than I. You command much respect. I notice when you go against the grain everybody backs off. A tip of my cap. But even you must admit conservatives donāt get the same respect as radical speakers on college campuses?
Oh thereās no doubt about that. We just had Mitch Daniels on campus in the fall and both faculty & students were like ālol why is this Republican hereā even though heās the President of Purdue, 2 term governor of Indiana, President of Eli Lilly, and OMB Director under Bush 43. We could invite some rando lefty like Krystal Ball and sheād pack our biggest auditorium. Thereās just not that many people interested in center right ideas on campuses unfortunately. The one exception I can think of was ironically at KSU. I got roped into getting Herman Cain of all people to give a talk at KSU and the place was PACKED.
@DoubleDD said in The democratic nominee:
@approxinfinity said in The democratic nominee:
@DoubleDD said in The democratic nominee:
@kjayhawks said in The democratic nominee:
@DoubleDD @approxinfinity @DanR We have to be able to see it from the other side without insulting and fighting each other. There is truth to both sides. Have the Dems labeled virtually everything Trump has done including his initial China travel ban racist? Yes, without question. Has Trump back tracked and gave circular reasoning? Yes, without question.
Iām not the one calling names. Iām just posting a different point of view. I guess itās like how a conservative speaker canāt speak on on a college campus anymore for fear of their life. And conservatives are naziās?
Some extreme trolling right here. I didn't call it dumbass trolling. Just extreme trolling.
Yet is it not true? Are not conservatives refrained on college campuses? For the colleges canāt give them the protection needed. What are these kids being taught? Doesnāt the media treat and even says the rep party is Nazism? Just saying
As an instructor at a college campus I can say a couple things on this. 1) liberals are much more resistant to hearing opposing ideas than conservatives 2) this doesnāt necessarily mean conservatives are oppressed 3) Iāve had conservatives come up to me and say thank you for trying to include all sides of a conversation since theyāre obviously a distinct minority.
For sure. I wouldnāt hate taking a flier if we had a spot. A RS year then a 5th year Chaundee might be a nice player.
Our old friend Chaundee Brown is transferring
Heck yeah! I saw Judge Vratil told him to kick rocks about getting all the stuff related to Gassnola too.
@benshawks08 said in The democratic nominee:
@FarmerJayhawk But quite memorably not ALL filabusters.
True. Harry Reid was warned for starting this. Cocaine Mitch plays for keeps
@benshawks08 said in The democratic nominee:
@FarmerJayhawk I totally agree and think that has always been somewhat true. I do think Mitch has pushed us further in that direction. He is well known for drudging up old procedural precedents to suit his current agenda. He's not the only one and it's definitely on both sides, but I do think he is one of the biggest abusers of such arguments.
To his credit he's always defended the legislative filibuster.
@approxinfinity arguing about the methods we use to get from point A to point B (e.g. the filibuster or any parliamentary procedure, the powers of certain branches of government, etc.) When I was in state politics during the Obama years we were always told by D's to just "do what Obama says!!" including things that were clearly outside his authority. Now, those same people are all about defying the administration and supporting their D governor. You can find Senators of both parties both praising the filibuster as both a threat to the Republic and unconstitutional yet when they're in the minority its a bulwark against the tyranny of the majority and key to securing compromise. All of it's garbage. Just folks making whatever argument suits their agenda. No real principle involved.
Iām very glad people have rediscovered federalism during this crisis and the Trump admin generally since the 10th amendment was seen by the press as some kind of crackpot way to bring back the Confederacy. But now itās patriotic! Almost like.. and follow me here.. process arguments are inherently insincere.
Decent chance UK signee Terrence Clarke goes G League. Would be a brutal hit.
@jayballer73 said in 2021 Recruiting:
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2021 Recruiting:
@jayballer73 said in 2021 Recruiting:
Made the top 6 for a pretty decent player Kevan Parker , from Booker T Washington out of Tulsa Oklahoma. - -CB 5'11 173 pounds.
He has Arkansas , Baylor , Michigan State , Nebraska , SMU & KU - -would be a sweet get , not holding my breath but you neve know with Les , & the boys/
That would be a big time get. Looks like we're getting an OT pretty soon as well.
oh well heck that's good news , at1stI started to respond about my post with the CB - -but ya that's still good news also. - I seen something about that off the phog but I think the article was VIP so I couldn't read the article.
We need all the OL & DL we can get I think . I think in the skilled positions Les has done a really good job, especially with the WR, the only thing that seems to be evading us is a really good quality QB. - So I actually think they really need to put the hammer down for Ol & DL.
Did it happen to mention the name of the OT ? or what other schools may have been involved buddy?
I do! Would be this fellow. Glad we're getting more big dudes after getting Neal. https://247sports.com/Player/DeKedrick-Sterns-46096708/ ā
@jayballer73 said in 2021 Recruiting:
Made the top 6 for a pretty decent player Kevan Parker , from Booker T Washington out of Tulsa Oklahoma. - -CB 5'11 173 pounds.
He has Arkansas , Baylor , Michigan State , Nebraska , SMU & KU - -would be a sweet get , not holding my breath but you neve know with Les , & the boys/
That would be a big time get. Looks like we're getting an OT pretty soon as well.
Jalen Green going G League. Glad we were never really involved there. RIP Penny and Memphis.
@approxinfinity @jayballer73 I posted this in another thread a couple weeks ago, but it puts some meat on the bones https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2020/03/27/822407626/mystery-in-wuhan-recovered-coronavirus-patients-test-negative-then-positive ā
Coming back to KU https://www.instagram.com/p/B--BWcUniwj/?igshid=1x3emwuj386te ā
Our old friend Isaiah Todd is going pro
Josh Christopher to ASU. Top 20 recruits going 15 different places. Going to be another year without many, if any, great teams.
Thor going to Aubs opened up a scholarship at OSU, which Donovan Williams took. Lol Bruce
Justin Turner went back to BGSU. Awk.
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@Kcmatt7 said in Life after flattening?:
@FarmerJayhawk said in Life after flattening?:
@Kcmatt7 said in Life after flattening?:
But nobody can explain why the US sucks ass at testing. I sure canāt. And the feds allowing private companies to be the distributors of medical supplies is dumbfounding.
Iāve got a suggestion. The FDA and CDC were WAY too slow in approving tests in private and academic labs that were already being conducted. At one point they shut that early testing down. Have to love red tape.
I would say that is likely one of the issues.
Although I understand the concerns. Who would pay for it? The state, the federal government or insurance companies?
How do we ensure they are accurate?
How do we ensure that we aren't being defrauded? As in someone claims to perform tests, but really aren't and just send the bills and collect cash.
Some of this could red tape could be prevented by, dare I say it, a centralized healthcare system that removes some of these questions and administration issues.
The Feds farm out R&D all the time to private and academic institutions. They could've easily done the same here. The research labs have tons of experience running RCT's and whatnot on new drugs, so there's no reason to pull their funding and have FDA employees do it. Private companies make and test drugs all the time, then run trials to ensure they're effective. The FDA has monitoring capacity. If a company makes a fraudulent drug, they'll suffer massive financial losses. Then the rest of the world buys what we develop (the US patents about half of all new drugs worldwide each year). If the FDA screws up and makes faulty tests like they did for COVID, we all just shrug and keep paying them.
Centralizing it all probably won't make any difference. We're testing at about the same rate as all the other developed countries sans Italy. I suppose we could just get rid of all those pesky university hospitals and make them more similar to the Federally run hospitals like the checks notes VA?
@approxinfinity said in Dotson or Doke or both?:
@FarmerJayhawk do you think Dot is quick enough to be elite as a fast break guy? He definitely needs other skills to stick, but I consider him elite in that dept at a college level. Not sure if it translates to elite at NBA level or not.
For sure. Thatās his one real skill he can fall back on. But heās also not a good distributor on the break because heās been able to blow by 99% of guys until now.
@Kcmatt7 said in Life after flattening?:
But nobody can explain why the US sucks ass at testing. I sure canāt. And the feds allowing private companies to be the distributors of medical supplies is dumbfounding.
Iāve got a suggestion. The FDA and CDC were WAY too slow in approving tests in private and academic labs that were already being conducted. At one point they shut that early testing down. Have to love red tape.
Will miss u Dot. Heās in a weird spot. Unless you can dunk and/or shoot 40% from 3 the NBA really doesnāt want you. Itās becoming a specialistsā league and Dot isnāt one.
We never reached out. More and more likely the 13 for next year are set. I think thatās actually their preference at this point given all the uncertainty.
@DoubleDD said in Life after flattening?:
@FarmerJayhawk said in Life after flattening?:
@approxinfinity said in Life after flattening?:
So how does the economy recover? We have 4 million people who are unemployed find new ways to get employed and the other 12 million on unemployment for a year? How long?
The hope is the relief package was big enough that most people laid off were just effectively furloughed. Once we come back online they get their old jobs back. At this point though itās hard to say.
From my understanding small businesses can get a loan to pay their employees and bring them back once the economy opens again. If they do just that they donāt have to pay back the loan.
Thatās correct. Congress just needs to make sure the program has enough money to meet the demand.
@approxinfinity said in Life after flattening?:
So how does the economy recover? We have 4 million people who are unemployed find new ways to get employed and the other 12 million on unemployment for a year? How long?
The hope is the relief package was big enough that most people laid off were just effectively furloughed. Once we come back online they get their old jobs back. At this point though itās hard to say.
@BShark said in Life after flattening?:
The big problem is this will screw the economy. We aren't seeing it yet but it will happen. It might be 4-5 years before the economic crapper is fixed. It's not like everything was frozen in time and magically gets to restart.
Oh Iām definitely seeing it now. There arenāt any cars around anymore. Itās eerie af. Plus the millions upon millions of unemployment insurance claims. The jobs report this month will be historically brutal
The only antibody test available now is basically garbage. Itāll be awhile before weāre safe to do much of anything. In my county we just had an 80 person outbreak related to a nursing home. Weāre weeks away from the peak.
JT Thor committing tomorrow. Thinking Okie Lite
@BShark said in KU Twitter/Memes:
@FarmerJayhawk I enjoyed the financial one you did. I was legit laughing pretty hard.
Haha thanks my man. I canāt claim credit for that one though! https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/money-printer-go-brrr ā
I made a meme !alt text ā
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@DoubleDD said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/02/us/politics/cia-coronavirus-china.html ā
You have access to the ny times? I do wish I could read this article. Can you help?
Intel folks are saying China way underreports the impact of COVID. They warned the White House in February about how bad it will get with little response. Nobody really knows how many died in China since they donāt test a lot of people.
@approxinfinity said in The democratic nominee:
@FarmerJayhawk i wish abortion was left at the state level, we never had Roe v Wade and the Republicans never had to adopt the Pro-Life position universally (and conversely, the Democrats adopting Pro-Choice) to woo the Evangelicals.
I think when Pro-Life v. Pro-Choice became a winner-take-all battle at the federal level, it pushed us further down the road of bitter partisanship in Washington and guaranteed that the Supreme Court would be dragged into partisan bullshit.
Jefferson was wise to advocate a separation of Church and State and when Roe v. Wade gets overturned it will mark the crossing of a line that should never have been crossed, which I think is why Republican appointees have to date not been willing to pull the trigger. Abortion should have been handled at the state level and kept the hell out of Washington.
I'm curious if you think that abortion was on a collision course with the SCOTUS, or if you think this could have been avoided if Weddington and Coffee didn't push Roe v. Wade or if the SCOTUS hadn't taken the case.
My theory is Roe short circuited what was likely going to happen at the ballot box anyway, legal abortion in most places. My counterfactual is the fights over marriage equality. If Obergefell would've been decided in say, 2007 vs. 2014, you'd have a lot more bitter fights over it now. But instead, public opinion developed more organically and the Court ruled when it was more "ripe."