They were so used to Auburn scoring they gave Dotsons 3 to Auburn
HighEliteMajor
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On the bright side, there’s nothing to vacate this season.
Kcmatt7 said:
HighEliteMajor said:
Kcmatt7 said:
HighEliteMajor said:
truehawk93 said:
Let's hope we can win an appeal with SDS and get him eligible for next year. Their ruling was too harsh. I think this season was enough. But they made sure KU didn't do one damn thing this year. What's worse, KU decided not to do one damn thing this year. GEEZ. This is surreal. This is a freakin' nightmare of a season.
Either that or SDS just leaves and we never utter the name again. Wish we never heard of him to be honest.
I’ll be glad we got him if we don’t vacate the FF he helped get us to
I’d trade it back right now. The whole SDS situation has been a nightmare
I don’t know landing him changes anything. Billy was just as much of an issue... talk about wishing we never got a kid.
Good lord, no doubt.
Kcmatt7 said:
HighEliteMajor said:
truehawk93 said:
Let's hope we can win an appeal with SDS and get him eligible for next year. Their ruling was too harsh. I think this season was enough. But they made sure KU didn't do one damn thing this year. What's worse, KU decided not to do one damn thing this year. GEEZ. This is surreal. This is a freakin' nightmare of a season.
Either that or SDS just leaves and we never utter the name again. Wish we never heard of him to be honest.
I’ll be glad we got him if we don’t vacate the FF he helped get us to
I’d trade it back right now. The whole SDS situation has been a nightmare
truehawk93 said:
Let's hope we can win an appeal with SDS and get him eligible for next year. Their ruling was too harsh. I think this season was enough. But they made sure KU didn't do one damn thing this year. What's worse, KU decided not to do one damn thing this year. GEEZ. This is surreal. This is a freakin' nightmare of a season.
Either that or SDS just leaves and we never utter the name again. Wish we never heard of him to be honest.
And Barkley is a great guy.
What we haven’t mentioned is how absolutely weak Dedric has looked.
DanR said:
Wonder if Vick is watching this
No, no .... Vick is tending to very important personal matters.
Grimanitly!
wissox said:
Until last season, when was the last time we ended the season with an embarrassing blowout loss? I'm having trouble thinking of one.
Wichita St
wissox said:
Until last season, when was the last time we ended the season with an embarrassing blowout loss? I'm having trouble thinking of one.
Stanford.
Hmm .. maybe it’s trying to play 4/1 when we don’t have the personnel to do it? Garrett- Grimes.
I’m sorry, is this last year’s FF game?
Be patient. Play hi/lo.
Would Self have put Doke on the bench? Play Dave!
Grimes has been out .. similar to being in.
Garrett just shot from 17 feet. Unreal
wissox said:
Auburn is a football school. We always beat football schools.
Except in football.
Charlie Moore — less is more.
We have to play big. We can’t match up small. It’s that simple.
approxinfinity said:
Help us Mitch Lightfoot, you're our only hope.
Very nice ...
Dedric needs another big in.
Play McCormack.
Play zone.
Get Garrett out.
I think the key tonight is Agbaji. Need a 23 point, 5/7 from 3 type game.
KU 79 - Auburn 69
Total BS call
@Crimsonorblue22 Very good point ...
@Hawk8086 I don’t know. I was referring mainly to the tough non-con. Look at Purdue. Their non-con amounted to three losses against only three decent teams they played.
LSU played a zero non con and lost to Okla St by 13 and lost to Houston.
I still don’t know ...
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/team/schedule/_/id/2509/purdue-boilermakers ↗
@Crimsonorblue22 Nah, he’s very shabby. Wonder if he knew of UA’s initial payment to Silvio?
I would be interested in seeing the rule citation on this one. So a kid can't voluntarily give up his scholarship and stay at the school of his choice? I recall the discuss about Brady giving his up due to our scholarship limitations. That said, I've never even looked at the rule one way or another.
@approxinfinity I got the link below for 2009-10. We actually played 4 true road games - UCLA, Temple, Tennessee, and Nebraska. Hosted Michigan and Cal. Neutral site vs Memphis.
We haven’t lost a first round game since Bradley. I just don’t think our schedule gained us anything as far as NCAA seeding or tourney benefits this year.
Maybe because of losing Doke and Vick, our early wins were minimized. We had the toughest schedule though and it got us nothing .
It seems like a team like Houston getting 30 wins got more out of that. And Purdue?
http://m.kusports.com/schedules/mens-basketball/2009-10/kansas/?templates=mobile ↗
Goodnight KSU.
I'm definitely rooting for KSU .. good for KU, good for the conference.
All of our great scheduling, though, and the strength of our schedule really did nothing for us .. maybe gave us a four seed over a five? No, we clearly deserved a four or better.
But it didn't get us to the three line. Houston has a really good season .. beat Cincy, LSU, Oregon; but did they play near our schedule? LSU got a three seed with 6 losses (we had 9) but look at their schedule. Their non-con sucked. They lost to FSU and Houston in the non-con. Also lost to Oklahoma St. And Purdue? Good grief. They lost 9 games. Their non-con sucked too. And they lost to their two good non-con opponents (FSU and Va. Tech), and lost at Texas.
My point is that I don't think our excellent schedule gains us much. Otherwise, we would have jumped Houston, LSU, or Purdue for a three seed.
Grimes remains completely puzzling. So many minutes, and so little production sometimes.
Some including me complained about our personnel choices vs ISU. Self clearly made the right moves in this game and deserves high credit for the switching strategy out high to help defend the three. Switching can be used against you when you employ it in such a broad manner — offenses can create the match-ups they want. Here, Self must have felt that risk was limited. It worked quite well and gave us a 30 point win over a team some analysts seemed to think might beat us.
I think analysts forget that while a team like Northeastern may play like ISU, they just aren’t as good as ISU.
I think Roy gets yet another title.
@KirkIsMyHinrich @BShark Dedric actually may have a better vertical than Jokic I think. I watched a game where they were suggesting Jokic couldn't dunk. Jokic is 7 foot though ... a touch taller.
@BShark ... that should ring quite true around here. You don't know what you have until it's gone. But I think we know and appreciate what we have with Self.
It's unimaginable to me, though, how far Nebraska football has fallen. What a great program. Now, middling. One event -- changing conferences. Man, I wish we could get NE and Colorado back. That would make 12 pretty nice.
Meniscus is tricky stuff .. one of the biggest complications related to ACL recovery is if the meniscus was involved. That can add multiple months to recovery. It's better long term to have an ACL tear with no meniscus, than just meniscus tearing (as all of you with meniscus issues surely know!). My daughter deals with that and it is not fun. My older son recovered from the ACL deal without issue. Obviously more traumatic when it happened, but he has no ill effects now. Except for soreness where the ACL was attached to the tibia with a screw.
I think we win too. Northeastern? Good grief. 77-61 Hawks.
And great work @wrwlumpy -- always appreciated, but never taken for granted.
@dylans That should be what every KU fan is hoping for ... a Bill Self that is truly reinvigorated and highly motivated to take what he believes is his.
@Kcmatt7 I’m not tracking with the greed thing then. My response was to demonstrate that a CEO making a couple million providing over a billion in benefits annually to its members, and the entirety of the athletes, is nothing to complain about. What’s your point?
@Kcmatt7 Come on. You know where the money comes from, right? TV in very large part. Tickets. Products. That all creates interest. It puts the athletes on a huge stage. Let's them further their own product. Let's them prepare for pro sports, or for the other 95%, for a career where their involvement in such athletics gives them a huge foot in the door for the rest of their lives. Of course, that evil money funds a bunch of other non-revenue sports that wouldn't exist, scholarships, etc. It's a tired narrative you're singing, my friend. All of this ... all of it ... benefits the student athlete.
When reading a statement like Self's there's a number of ways to interpret it. Let's consider it from a legal perspective, perhaps -- a possible hidden meaning.
Self took great pains to modify his prior statement about how long he wanted to coach. He stated that he intended to coach a long time, to coach here, to see this through, and said he wanted things "on the record."
So, if Self were terminated for cause, with his long contract sitting there, putting it on the record regarding his intentions deflects a legal argument that he wouldn't coach the length of his contract anyway and that the possible money owed to Self might be less than the contract. It could be setting up a negotiating point.
I know, a twisted way to look at things. Just one possible interpretation outside of the obvious, straightforward intepretations.
"So, you understand if you go to Kansas, this being your last season, there is a very reasonable chance you won't get to play in the NCAA tournament. I'm not saying it's certain, but the NCAA is investigating, they banned a player for basically two seasons, there are recordings of a coach talking about paying a player, and guys that helped Kansas recruit are going to jail. It's just reality. Here, at ______, we have none of that. I would hate to see a player in your spot lose a chance in his final season, to play in the NCAA tournament."
Or something like that ...
For this KU team, playing against a good three point shooting team and needing to defend the three, I'd play a 3-2 zone, stretch the top near the three point line. Leave the pass to the high post open. All Dedric/Dave/Mitch (2 of the 3) to guard the block area. Make them shoot 12-16 footers. Playing zone, you will give up some looks on good ball rotation, but you can also pressure the line. You've got to give something to get something.
About 1/3 of the time, I'd do a pure matchup zone out of this look, to change things up. Then mix in trips of man D here and there.
We continue to play the same man D and we can't guard the line.
This allows us to play two bigs, and not be dictated to personnel wise as Self seems to feel is necessary (adjust our personnel so our defense isn't compromised vs. using the mismatch to our favor, i.e., Dedric or Dave vs. a smaller player).
Just a thought.
@nuleafjhawk How about KU with Doke, DeSousa, and a Vick with his head on straight? What ifs, of course. But I think we'd be the favorite. Like Dee Ford lining up offside. What could have been.
@mayjay The thing is, if he were at KU, he wouldn't be getting this much attention. It wouldn't be the non-stop Zion-fest. I'm not a great complainer on this topic when I see ESPN promote the ACC so vigorously. I understand that ESPN is a money making venture, so they gear their marketing to what might be most attractive to the bigger markets. Middle America is not the bigger markets.
But the Zion-fest, the focus on one player, is out of control.
A great example was Michael Beasley. He was a better college player than Zion. He absolutely dominated. There wasn't 1/4 of this crap we see on ESPN now.
And I don't think the point is that Zion is or isn't "amazing." We all agree that he is amazing. But what appears to be the singular focus on one player is ridiculous. Men's CBB is much more than Zion Williamson, or any one player.
I just turn the channel.