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It's a head scratcher. The blue circle group known as the NCAA had said all along it was his HS and the course work he had taken there. That he didn't pass enough core classes, yet they didn't go to the school to review anything since 2011 making their judgement on the school in 2012. They even brought up transcripts from his 6th grade class in Mali.

This was what they were using to hold this kid back from playing a sport and trying to make a life for himself and perhaps the betterment of his family back in Mali.

But wait they lied about that. It came down to less than $200 bucks given to him when he first came over to the United States of America, by his handler who was trying to become his legal guardian. Shortly there after he was his legal guardian in the US of A.

Yet this was never brought up by the NCAA until yesterday. If they had this information earlier why didn't they say so and set the record straight?

If anyone remember this happened to Rick Majerous when he was at Utah. A player had lost his father and Rick took this young man out for a slice of pizza and a soda. That student athlete had to repay that 7 bucks or so to a charity sit one game I believe and Rick was fined put on probation and who knows what else the blue circle group of thrives made him do.

They aren't looking out for the best interest of the student athlete. They are looking out how to line their pockets with cold hard cash, get free stuff and anything else they can get their hands on.

The NCAA is following the playbook that was written by the Intetnational Olympic Committee and revised for a second edition by FIFA. Steal. Cheat. Party. Until you get caught. Then deny. Deny deny place blame somewhere else and take a huge buyout to go away.

@jaybate-1.0 said:

@JRyman

Thx.

Question: so you think preventative in this case?

After talking to a HS coach in Omaha last month about kids wearing them more and more, I'd say about 90-95% is preventative. 2% because they don't want to miss a trend and that final 3% is injury of some sort.

Nike. Adidas. Under armor all make them plain, with pockets for pads to be placed and taken out and also with built in pads that are little hexagons or something like that so they are very flexible lightweight and protective.

@nuleafjhawk John Wooden had two offensive plays he ran at UCLA. He didn't care what defenses were being played against his teams. He knew that if his players ran the offense like they were taught and coaches it would work.

There used to be a story perhaps folk lore that he offered his play sheet to an opposing coach. "Here are our plays if you think this will help. But I don't think you can stop it anyway."

It goes to the saying Don't practice til you get it right. Practice until you don't get it wrong anymore.

On the defensive end off the ball it's nice to know tendencies of your opponent or even what they do on inbounds. But if you play D like you are taught and keep to the principles and all 5 guys are doing it together then your D will be really really good even if it doesn't know it's opponent.

Even with the small arena having AC I'm sure these "lingerie" we're more for blood flow to the legs and helping to preven cramps.

Also a lot of those "leggings" have pads in them. Be it on te hips or thighs. Some even have them in the knee area. That way players done have to look like Patrick Ewing wearing volleyball knee pads. You remember the 80s @jaybate-1.0 don't you?

These "stockings" are more preventative maintenance than anything. Stopping floor burns, bruises, and cramps.

@Hawk8086 we will have to wait until the ICU release @HighEliteMajor after his heart attach caused by seeing so much Traylor last night.

I laugh that as this was drug along for months it was about his transcripts and highschool and even 6th grade.

But wait it wasn't about his academics after all(cause there was nothing there that was wrong) it was money. Impermissible benefits?

Cmon NCAA you have made yourselves, your department heads, and the whole big blue circle a mockery.

Let's not think he will step in next week and be a 20 minute guy right off the bat.

I'm as happy as everyone else that he is cleared to play. Don't get me wrong there!!!

Just saying he is in no way shape or form in game shape. 8-12 the first two games. Unless he is completely highly better than advertised.

He will probably get most of Lucas's minutes and Hunters too. The Traylor's as the season goes on.

Let's not forget that Embid took a bit to get his feet under him in the college game. Black was in front of him in the rotation. Once Joel got his lungs and legs and proved how good he was in a game, then he played until injury.

Nobody needs to get bent out of shape next week when he's not starting game 1 or playing 20-25 minutes.

Give home time. Let him get adjusted to game speed and his teammates get used to him as well.

Just sayin

@drgnslayr that's the problem with the league. They base everything on a players ceiling/potential.

They don't care what they are as a player now. The sooner they can get them away from a college team and I to the L they can make money off of them.

In my opinion of kids played longer in college two things would be seen. 1) the product in then a would be better as a whole. 2) greater fan bases. The fans would be more connected to a guy who played at their college for two or three years instead of just one.

I'd like Svi to be around for another year, let his game really shine and I believe he would graduate with a degree in his three years plus summer school at KU.

@Statmachine stats are a good thing. To me they are best used to know what to work on and build on.

"Moneyball" is a good book and movie. But what has Moneyball won? Sure it can build you a team, but those players then have to live up to and play up to those exact numbers. No injuries. No off games. No deviation from the process. If one thing changes or deviates Moneyball doesn't work.

In basketball trying to tell a guy where he needs to shoot the ball from for better odds is a mind f&$k for a shooter. Perhaps the rest of the team too.

I'm not doscounting stats by any means as I said above they can be a great teaching tool.

That said let players make plays.

@Bosthawk said:

( let me know if I've missed anything )

Well you missed the NCAA holding out Diallo.

No mention of Hunter's ability to grab every rebound known to man.

I mean just to pile on.

@Statmachine said:

He has a pretty good supporting cast when things are going right. 6 Jayhawks averaging double figures is REALLY good! How long has it been since 6 guys have averaged double figures? The answer is IDK but it sure is nice!

Cmon @Statmachine with a name like yours I expected more stats from you.

Just flippin ya some schitte nothing serious to be taken

That KUBuckets web site is blacked out beyond the state lines of Kansas.

@Crimsonorblue22 Joe Buck called said his Madison Bumgardner tree is better. But his Mart Harvey tree wanted to stay in the forest for a little longer.

@jayballer54 is/was English a second language? Do you speak three others fluently?

Perhaps you are someone we might all know of???

@AsadZ apparently they did NOT put tanning beds in the new apartments for the players.

@nuleafjhawk said Automatic bench time for anybody shooting anything but a dunk or bunny.

What's this "dunk" thing you speak of?

@DanR because you can't play D on the perimeter without fouling. Need that extra foul to keep guys in the game.

"If there was any justice in the world".

Translation

"If the NCAA was not corrupt"

Does the NCAA go to 6 fouls next year with the way they call fouls now?

Perhaps experiment with that in the NIT?

Svi showing fundamentals right there and followed his shot and not only got the rebound but the basket.

Bragg will have knee pads in those tights next game.

@bskeet said:

Ugly D... our offense sputtering. Svi is maybe 20% from 3.

Ugly D? What D?

@Crimsonorblue22 said:

@JRyman or his daughter falls in love w/Mari and they live happily ever after in cars

That movie was awesome. Mater could be our friend, that would be a lot of fun.

@HighEliteMajor finds out the Jamari Traylor sets the all time NBA rebounding record.

@jaybate-1.0 finds out that all post on all websites have to be under 20 words.

@HighEliteMajor said:

That we become Missouri.

You mean irrelevant in all sports?

Or

Such a bad university the only way anyone knows you exist (since your sports teams are irrelevant) is by student boycotts?

@jayballer54 I call coaching Hustle and Emergy.

@DoubleDD a lot of folks here talk about Selfs love for Traylor. But after reading your post I wonder what his love affair with Ellis is?

Is he good? Yes
Is he reliable? Until he gets knocked around.
Can he change a game? No
Can he take over a game? No.

And yet Self hangs his hat on Ellis to win games. He's good don't get me wrong and I have nothing against Perry just saying he's not the power forward that Self sets him up to be.

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In my driveway anyway.

@HighEliteMajor said:

The one thing that I will hold to as much as anything else regarding Self’s offensive approach is that he does not work hard to put his team in a position to get open three point looks. It’s more a flow of the offense thing

This coming from a man who played guard, not a post player, but a guard.

Is he worried abut assist numbers?

Our next opponent is upon us and now.

Questions arise about our defense in this game.

1. Who out of our committee at the 5 gets to guard their 7foot 245b center, Welsh, who got 20 against UNLV? He went for 5 more than his season average, put he also averages just south of 2 blocks a game and 7 rebs. I'm guessing we see Lucas in the beginning for that match up.

2. Who gets the call to guard the coaches kid Alford? He too got 20 its last night , right at his season average. Does this assignment go to Seldes or the combo of Frank and Devonte?

3. Holiday another guard had 18, 5 above his season avg., but was hot from the FT line.

The bonus is those three players score 58 of their 77 points. So can we stop one of them? Slow the other two down a bit?

1. Will KU play free again tonight?

@MoonwalkMafia it is shut. But as someone who has spent a lot of time on the roads. City, highways and interstates .09 is dangerous behind the wheel of a 2 ton vehicle.

I have known guys personally and spoken with many state patrolmen that have blown or seen someone blow over twice the legal limit and yet passed the field sobriety test. Flawlessly.

Am I flawless in my driving after a few? No. So I will step down from the pulpit on this and let it go.

Jus saying Urban Meyers picks and chooses who he suspends and when.

@MoonwalkMafia ok I'll give that comparing Jernadez and Elkiot are a far cry from each other. Yet Jernandez was never suspended while at Florida. So that dismisses your argument that good ole Urb suspends players when they deserved it.

Urb actually covered it up at Florida so Hernandez wouldn't be expelled. This has been mentioned by more than one ex player and U of Florida students.

As for Elliot going live after his coaches to the masses in my opinion, just mine, is more selfish than what Greene did at practice.

Is Greene a repeat offender for calling his coaches out? Or for just being a head case?

Both Elliot and Greene are hyper competitive athletes and that causes these issues about carries and playing time. Are they both deserving? Probably. Did they go about it the right ways? No.

Just because the .09 BAL(Blood Alcohol Level) isn't against the university or team rules per the letter of their law it is against the law in all 50 States. Sometimes leaders, be it coaches or bosses need to step in and help young people understand that their actions have consequences. He could have easily killed someone at that BAL with delayed reactions. Then what???

@MoonwalkMafia ok what did I say about Barret? My comment was about Elliot their RB who spoke out against his coaches and the play calling to the press after their loss to Michigan state Saturday night. (Which is what is rumored BG did sans the media)

That's what I was referencing and how Urban Meyer let's his stars go Scott free like he did in Florida. Hernandez is the biggest of those names, but you could also look into the Pouncey brothers why they were at Florida. It was all clouded up by the ever popular golden boy Tim Tebow.

Urban wants to win and will do it at the cost of society and not his players.

@jaybate-1.0 so what you are saying is I really didn't miss much in the grand scheme of things? That it was OK to pass out at 630 cst due to being me?

What you are saying is I probably shouldn't watch tonight's game as I will be completely and utterly angry by how they play?

What you are saying is Hunter isn't our best rebounder?

What you are saying is there was freedom or a looseness to the flow of the game?

What you are saying is the Chieck Diallo needs to be freed!

What you are saying is that Chaminade doesn't have a big enough shoe contract?

What you are saying is that there were no representatives from the NCAA in Hawaii this week?

What you are saying is Rock Chalk Jayhawk

@Kip_McSmithers said:

E. Elliot the RB from tOSU calls out Urban and Co in the national media and gets zero games on the pine. BG does it behind closed doors and gets slapped with SIX. Legit.

I said this in another thread but it is worth repeating about Urban Meyers. He never suspended Hernandez at Florida even though he knew he was carrying a gun around. Look where that got Hernandez?

Urban isn't about the players, or their growth as young men. He in it for his legacy and bonus checks for winning.

@HighEliteMajor said:

@Statmachine If they suspend Self, or anything close, we'll be at the NCAA's doorstep in Indianapolis with torches in hand.

Torches? Seems too soft for them.

The more info that is brought to light about the NCAA handelimgs of not only Diallo and KU's case the more and more the NCAA seems to be getting more than they are giving.

Just like FIFA this past summer. The IOC a few years back.

The more reporting that goes on in the public eye the more and more people will investigate and or come forward. Only to show how crooked the NCAA is and has been for years.

Perhaps like the IOC and FIFA the leadership at the NCAA headquarters in Indiana should be asked to or forced out of their positions and let new blood in.

@SoftballDad2011 well since today is the first full business day since they received the letter from KU I'm sure it has been passed around over coffee break and now lunch.
They probably aren't real sure who should deal with it as I'm sure most of the hire ups have taken today Tiesday and Wednesday off to have an extended holiday weekend so they can travel to places unknown.
A week from today would be the first day that NCAA president Mark Emmert would possibly see this(doubt he's reading it on ESPN.com as plausible deniability). Then like most major leadership roles go he will set it in his brief case and take it home to review. But family will distract him and he will forget it's in there for a few more days.

So with all that said I'm going with Dec 3rd before we hear anything from the MCAA or Oresident errrr dictator Emmert.

@Crimsonorblue22

Where can one get that SWAG?

Anyone else ready for tonight's game or is everyone else living in the past and to worried about how much they can bicker like its recess in the 3rd grade about whose opinion matters more?

I for one am looking forward to this week of basketball and to see what happens.

Let's all ROCK CHALK JAYHAWK

@Bosthawk said:

thanks guys -
(although I think Jaybate is part cyborg or a test computer program at MIT)

"Shall we play a game"

Wonder is the J in @jaybate-1.0 is for Joshua??

Be it via phone calls, emails or twitter, and or even the postal service. Let's start the old letter writing campaign to the NCAA and let them know how we feel.

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It's here! The hangover buster. The subject changer. The Wowie in Maui. The next game.

Whatever you call it, it's here.

I for one am looking forward to a game, a game that will show us how we have dealt with this past week post loss. The distractions of the NCAA and a suspension.

Time to move forward, no more looking back. The Delorean is parked and the flex capacitor has been removed. It's time for the present and future to shape into something great. What that is I have no idea, but one way or another I will enjoy the ride.

Chaminade, tough to say who will have the crowd more behind them. Will KU come out flat, reserved to save it for back to back to back games?

Will we rebound?

Will we play KU ball and grind them down?

Will coach Self get a Technical just for talking to an one of the three officials hired by the NCAA?

Will the game be blacked out for KU fans that traveled to Hawaii without tickets?

@DoubleDD said:

@Crimsonorblue22

To be fair HCBS said himself that shooting the 3 is fools gold. I wonder how Greene/White/Conner felt when they heard that?

Only Greene was a part of the KU roster when Self said this last February. AW3 was in Lincoln for over a semester and CF was already at WSU for a little over a month.

Just sayin it only affected one of those three. I'm sure Greene, Selden, Mason and Svi were all a little taken back by it as they were hitting this shots and to a point so was Perry

Played NAIA ball for a year. Then I just fell out of love for it as it wasn't a game any more for me and more of a job.

Love the game now. Again. It took a few years to get over.

As for wanting more playing time as a player it's something we all want. You can work hard and not get it if there are guys above you that do one thing better than you.

Normally you talk to the coach one on one before the season starts. He has notes about you, pluses and minuses. You as a player ask what it's going to take to get on the floor. He tells you exactly what you need to do and who is I. Front of you and why.

After practices start before the first game as a player you might feel that you've done what was asked if you and more. You may even speak to the coach in his office one on one or with an assistant or two in there as well.

After a game or two and you still aren't getting what you believe is adequate playing time the time and place for that conversation is after film and notes and behind closed doors.

You don't call out an assistant or head coach in front of the team. EVER. You can talk to your teammates about it and vent, that's what builds a brotherhood. But you don't call out the coach no matter what.

If this is what transpired and who knows what was said or how it was taken this is probably ky why BG is out 6 games.

For those that want to compare it to Traylor's deal or any other players those were their first infractions as far as I know. This seems to be a yearly deal with BG.

It's not comparable to "Snacks" as he's a coach and is held in a different light than a player.

This is just my opinion on my experiences. It's like as an adult you do as the police officer says and things go smoothly. You question the officer or argue well that incident now becomes an ordeal. Same with your coach.

Who do you want us to play? Ucla or UNLV? After Chaminade in the winners bracket

Could Danny and Wake make it to the finals and face Self and Co?

Will the Chris Mullims experiment pay off at St Johns?

Will Vamderbilt and Indiana be teams to worry about?

@AsadZ said:

I know a lot of UCONN Fans and I can tell you that they are very happy with all of the NCs. I would trade many of our Big 12 conference titles with few more FFs and NCs any day.

How do they feel about their 0% graduation number for men's basketball?

If they don't care then they aren't real fans that actually care about the players that come through their school.

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At least Greene kept it in house and didn't take it to the media after the MSU loss like the RB from OSU did.

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