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kjayhawks said:

@JayHawkFanToo It one bowl game rather have won a good bowl that wasn’t BCS than be in the state we are currently in.

I am not sure what you mean. I am not a Perkins fan and I don’t agree with how he handled Mangino, particularly the way he was let go. Having said that, I have to give credit where credit is due and without Perkins KU does not go to the Orange Bowl and we don’t have the one thing we have to brag about football in this century.

approxinfinity said:

@JayHawkFanToo Do you think that we should let Russia take over the Baltics and Ukraine now? Is NATO not the organization best positioned to prevent that from happening? You can try to splice the rhetorical peapod with a nanoblade, but if the answers to these two questions are yes, then undermining NATO is a mistake.

Ukraine is not a member of NATO but in any case, ask Ukraine how well it has worked so far...

NATO countries agreed In 2006 to increase their military spending to 2% of their GDP and in the 12 years since then only 4 countries, UK, Poland, Greece and Estonia have met that target and countries like a Germany with the largest economy in a Europe are at 1.2% while the US is at 3.6% of a much larger economy and at 70% of the budget, it contributes almost 3 times the contribution of all the other countries...combined. This is unacceptable and untenable and the President is correct in asking them to live up to what they agreed, particularly when it is their own security...how exactly is this undermining NATO? If anything, it is trying to make it stronger.

The current German administration has been hostile to the US for a while now and has become close with Russia building a direct pipeline that will make it even more energy dependent. As you recall this has been an ongoing concern for our 3 previous administrations as well; in fact, the Obama administration was caught spying on Chancellor Merkel, precisely because of the concern that if economic sanction were imposed on Russia, how would Germany act agains the country that control its energy?

approxinfinity said:

NATO was set up to defend the world against Russian aggression. Who needs that these days?

With all due respect you are factually incorrect. NATO was created in 1949 not to protect the world but a limited number of Wester European countries from the Soviet Union and was originally a political alliance designed, as told at the time...to keep Americans in, Russians out and Germans down; in fact Germany was not even a part of the original alliance. In 1955 the alliance became more if a military one and it was determined that German troops would be needed to defend Europe and Germany joined NATO. As a result, the Soviet block created the Warsaw Pact to counter NATO. The NATO Charter only allows common defense against attacks from countries in the Northern emisphere and this is why NATO did not get involved in the Falklands War. With the end of the Cold War and the collapse of the Soviet Union and dissolution of the Warsaw Pact many of the former Soviet Block countries joined NATO to be protected from the new Russia but proved to be for naught since the lack of determination by our former president allowed the Russians to annex the Crimean Peninsula away from Ukraine and stepped all over the line drawn in the sand in Siria with no consequences...so in that respect you are correct, why have an alliance that will not act when really needed?

@kjayhawks @DoubleDD

The Orange Bowl selection of KU was very controversial and most though MU should have been picked instead of KU. Then, the Big 12, the ACC and the Bowls came up with an agreement to have OU and KU swap places in the Orange Bowl and the Fiesta Bowl and the ACC and the Big 12 commissioners submitted the proposal to the Bowl Comitte...talk about being stabbed on the back by your conference commissioner...luckily Perkins had a number of very influential friends all over and was able to have the proposal rejected. Perhaps you don’t remember but those were very trying days for the KU program and fans. This information comes from a high level KU administrator and big program booster. You can find more information and details here... ↗ Without Perkins KU does not make it to the Orange Bowl and its best season ever.

@dylans

Never heard of that ultimatum, do you have a source? I would be interested in learning more. In any case, looks like the fat man delivered with a final 12-1 record and the best football season ever at KU.

@stoptheflop

You do realize that without Perkins KU does not go to the Orange Bowl, right?

Perkins moved KU into the big time but there were things at the end, like how Mangino was fired, that left a bad taste. Perkin's tenure has to be looked at in its entirety and not just as one or two bad incidents.

What happened to the Royals? • Jul 15, 2018 12:43 PM

@kjayhawks

I like Gordon but no question he is way overpaid. I would have preferred keeping Zobrist instead.

Recruiting Thread • Jul 14, 2018 06:45 PM

@Woodrow

Not really a surprise. The better players want and need better competition much like JRE.

The only realistic chances for wins are in the first 4 games when KU plays Nichols State, Central Michigan and Rutgers and then Baylor in the only conference game KU has a chance, then it plays OSU and WVU when it does not have much of a shot before the 1 week off.

How KU does in these first 4 games and how it plays in the next 2 will decide whether Beaty stays or goes. 3 wins and no blowouts and he likely keeps his job, less than 3 wins or blowouts against OSU and/or WVU and the announcement of his firing comes at the break.

KU/TUCKY ...THE 2 BEST TEAMS • Jul 13, 2018 11:10 PM

@dylans

I would not call it an off year, #2 class with 4 5-stars and 1 4-star...same as Duke. Just sayin’...

2019 Recruiting • Jul 13, 2018 11:02 PM

Here are the Rivals predictions ↗ for the remaining 2019 top prospects.

Time for Svi to move his family over... • Jul 13, 2018 03:40 PM

@Texas-Hawk-10

it is called the "jock tax" but not every state has it. Nine states currently don't even have a state income tax: Alaska, Florida, Nevada, New Hampshire, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Washington and Wyoming, so players do not pay taxes in these states. Some states have per game fee which many times is greater than what a low paid player makes for that game. There is talk about the owners picking up the per game fee.

2019 Recruiting • Jul 13, 2018 03:34 PM

@justanotherfan

It is coming before the end of the agreement. as early as 2021 ↗ or even 2020.

2019 Recruiting • Jul 13, 2018 01:38 PM

@FarmerJayhawk

Big changes in the horizon. I read the NCAA will make it so coaches cannot attend event likes the EYBL Peach Jam. Also, the NBA requirement for OADs might be done away as early as the 2020 which means coaches will not have to spend lots of time courting the OADs and will have more time to scout 3-4 year players. Yes, we will miss watching a few phenoms but, given the experience teams will have, I believe the overall quality of play might actually be higher.

2019 Recruiting • Jul 13, 2018 06:24 AM

The Nike EYBL Peach jam and players of interest to KU. ↗

Will LeBron and Lakers Sign with Puma? • Jul 12, 2018 08:11 PM

@Kcmatt7

Adidas had the option to renew but chose not too at what appears to be a bargain cost of $400M and Nike blew $1B for something Adidas and Under Armour thought it was not worth it. ↗ but it does keep away all competitors from advertising on NBA uniforms. No way Puma has the money to outbid Nike.

Will LeBron and Lakers Sign with Puma? • Jul 12, 2018 07:31 PM

justanotherfan said:

Lebron already has an entertainment company ↗. They have already had a few minor deals and productions.

The best location for LeBron's "entertainment business" is LA, the capital of the entertainment world and that, according to his agent, is one of the reasons he went with the Lakers. Akron just will not cut it...unless your business is making tires or rubber related products.

But Lebron's business enterprise is entirely separate from what the Lakers do. Last year, they had a "wish" patch on their jersey. Every team in the NBA can have a jersey sponsor, so if Puma is that company, it won't be surprising.

It would indeed be very surprising. Puma cannot have a patch in any NBA team uniform because competitors of Nike, the official NBA uniform provider, are explicitly banned from sponsoring any team's jersey patch. Nike's contract runs for 8 years and will likely be renewed since Adidas was no longer interested and voluntarily gave it up and Nike was the only other apparel maker interested and would have no problem outbidding Puma.

Will LeBron and Lakers Sign with Puma? • Jul 12, 2018 03:49 PM

LeBron's agent confirms ↗ what I posted above, his ultimate goal is to get in the entertainment business and the Lakers are preparing and saving cap money for a big rebuild in 2019.

2019 Recruiting • Jul 12, 2018 01:43 PM

@Woodrow

I read the story as the 3 schools that have made him a priority and are recruiting him the hardest but not necessarily where he will end up. If you believe you have elite talent and the choice is between Creighton and KU then you will pick KU; if you are not sure like Mitchell Ballock then you pick Creighton.

2019 Recruiting • Jul 12, 2018 01:36 PM

@BeddieKU23

K.J. indicated recently that he does not understand why some people call him a “big” and that he considers himself a guard. Also, Coach Self said... ↗

"K.J., he's just a big guard," Self said. "I look at him as a guard that would be a guy like we played [Josh Jackson]. He's an intangible guard. He really understands the game.

Devonte • Jul 12, 2018 01:15 PM

@Crimsonorblue22

Mason is by now a fairly well known commodity to his team and played in the Summer League to shake off the dust and get an early start but the team will not risk injury and, much like other players that already have a spot in the various team’s rotations, he will get now more rest than play. Borderline players will get more play so they can be better evaluated.

Still not sure • Jul 11, 2018 06:07 PM

KU can always play De Sousa until conference play starts and by then, if there is any eligibility concerns, it can sit him during conference play. Winning the Conference Tournament gives KU an automatic berth to the Tournament even if all the non-con games are taken away and KU can still go and win the NCAA without him without any risk.

Vick Coming Back • Jul 11, 2018 06:00 PM

@justanotherfan

I believe the number come from Bart Torvik and Newell was just using them but did not generate them himself.

Svi will become Lebron's Steve Kerr. • Jul 11, 2018 05:48 PM

@BShark

TRob and McLemore were orders of magnitude more developed than Diallo during and after they left college. Both were All Conference and TRob was runner up to POY Anthony Davis, one of the better players to come out of college in many years and picked #5 and McLemore was a finalist for the Wooden Award and picked #7 in the draft. Diallo was a second round pick based solely on potential. Diallo would have befitted greatly staying an extra year at KU.

Diallo is entering the last year of his guaranteed contract and he gets paid whether he plays or not and at that cost is fairly inexpensive to keep him on.

Like I said, his career looks a lot like that of Julian Wright who also had a lottery pick guaranteed contract and once it was over so was his career. If NO picks up the option after the next season then he might have a chance, if it does not he is headed overseas.

I really like Diallo and hope he makes it. At times he can do amazing things on the court and other times he is the polar opposite, again, a lot like Julian Wright. Just sayin'

@jayballer73

You could not be more wrong. I barely follow the Royals during a good year (and only because the results are announced during sports news) and I really don't give a rat's ass about the Yankees, so no, hate was not at all part of my reply. Perhaps if you take off your "everybody hates the Yankees" glasses you would see that most posters have indicated pretty much the same thing and you keep popping a gasket and I am not sure if it is is because you perceive a personal attack or because it just bothers you we don't really care about the Yankees...most of us really, really, REALLY don't.

The better question is...why are we even discussing the Yankees in this forum?

Svi will become Lebron's Steve Kerr. • Jul 11, 2018 05:07 PM

@HighEliteMajor

No, it is not fiction or semi-fiction, it is reality. Diallo had and still has a low basketball IQ because he did not play basketball until he was fairly old and unfortunately he is a very slow learner.

You are conveniently forgetting Diallo has a 3-year $3.4M guaranteed contract and he gets the money whether he plays or not. Last season he played in 52 games compared to 17 the season before but his mpg, ppg and rpg went down while his tpg and fpg went up, in other words, all the stats went in the wrong direction and the reason he played that many games is because Boogie got injured and the only othre option was 35 year old Emeka Okafor.

Here arethe summary stats for the playoffs for Diallo...

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...and here are the stats for the entire team...
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As you can see, the Pelicans do not use him that much and I am sure that the 10 points he scored in the 7 games he played had the opponents shaking in their very expensive shoes.

Diallo will make ~$1.5M the upcoming season and while it is a relatively small amount as salaries go I will guess there are no teams interested even at this low cost. The Pelicans have an option next season and whether they exercise it or not will be telling. His career in many ways is similar to that of Julian Wright, an super athletic player that could not stick in the NBA past his initial contract.

You seem to indicate that an outstanding college player should be by extension one in the NBA as well and we both know this is not the case since the college game sometimes does not translate to the NBA. CONSENSUS POY Frank Mason was picked in the second round and is a backup to a OAD player drafted in the same year that was not among the best in college basketball.

Svi will become Lebron's Steve Kerr. • Jul 11, 2018 02:03 PM

@KUSTEVE

Diallo missed the entire pre-season and part of the season which put him way behind the learning curve. His athleticism was off the charts but his basketball IQ was extremely low (and still is) and while he was able to overpower HS players, he was lost against the tougher and more capable Division I competition. Hard to play a player that is consistently out of position and has not mastered the playbook. Lucas was not nearly as athletic but had a high basketball IQ and was always at the right place at the right time and this is why the other players chose to have him start and play the lion's share of time at the position.

Svi will become Lebron's Steve Kerr. • Jul 11, 2018 01:33 PM

KUSTEVE said:

@Crimsonorblue22 The most curious story of the Self era....why didn't Diallo ever play?

For the same reason that he is playing in the Summer League after being drafted and playing 2 years already.

@jayballer73

Considering how much the Yankees spend, there is no question they have grossly underachieved. It has nothing to do with hating, it is an objective observation that anyone that looks at the number agrees... heck, probably the Yankees themselves agree.

Svi will become Lebron's Steve Kerr. • Jul 11, 2018 03:41 AM

@Crimsonorblue22

Coleby has played a total if 5 minutes and shot 0-1 and no points; not looking good for him and will probably end up in the G League.

Newman is averaging 11.5 mpg and 1.5 ppg and shooting 1-7 or 14% from the field and 1-4 or 25% from 3. Looks like Newman will be spending a lot of time in the G League as well before he gets a call.

I thought Lucas was going to play in the Summer League but I have not seen him in any team.

Still not sure • Jul 11, 2018 03:20 AM

@HighEliteMajor

The original story was written by Pat Forde which makes it immediately unreliable.

Svi will become Lebron's Steve Kerr. • Jul 11, 2018 03:12 AM

@Crimsonorblue22

Coleby is playing for the Pelicans as well.

LeBron turning over a new leaf • Jul 10, 2018 09:48 PM

@justanotherfan

During his first sting with Cleveland, Lebron did not have much leverage but once he got good and had some pull he moved to Miami to form his own dream team and has been heavily involved in what players the teams gets ever since. There is no doubt that he will get involved in who the Lakers get to play with him.

Jeff Long = New AD • Jul 10, 2018 02:41 PM

The search for a high profile position be that an administrator or coach will invariably involve hiring a head hunter firm to select candidates and make sure they are properly vetted before they are considered.

I cannot imagine any major school AD making a hire at this level in isolation. Typically he will hire a search firm with input of the AdHoc search committee, who normally would not have many of the restrictions a school HR office would and can contact candidates off the record, something public officials might not be allowed to do. Once the list of candidates is available, he might add more and then the information would be shared with the search committee who would narrow the list and, while the AD might have the ultimate choice...subject to approval by the school president, the selected individual will most like be the consensus candidate.

Vick Coming Back • Jul 10, 2018 02:20 PM

@BeddieKU23 @HighEliteMajor

Individuals show leadership in different ways. Some are vocal and demonstrative like Mason and Graham and others are more quiet and show leadership by example like Ellis and Lucas. I understand Lightfoot is a good one in practice and was very helpful to De Sousa. Some are good everyday leaders and some really shine under stress.

Vick is now in a situation where failure is not an option if he has any hope of playing at the next level. There is no going back to college fall back option and being dismissed from the team would be the kiss of death. I don’t believe we can expect to see a vocal Vick leader but hopefully he will let his game speak for him and provide leadership by example. Good Vick is All Conference and bad Vick does not see the second half of the season; I am hoping it is the first; I am sure we all are.

Devonte • Jul 09, 2018 11:35 PM

@Crimsonorblue22

I am not sure if you are serious or just kidding. Collison is 2 years older, played just a few mpg in the last few years and yet he was able to mentor several of the younger OKC players. Parker is younger than Collison, a 6 time All Star and has 4 NBA titles and I am sure he would be a great mentor for Devonté.

Devonte • Jul 09, 2018 11:28 PM

@KUSTEVE

Parker averaged over 31 mpg for his 17 year career and only in the last 3 years his averGe went below 30 and just under 20 last season because of injuries.

Devonte • Jul 09, 2018 05:41 PM

@justanotherfan

Charlotte signed Tony Parker who was apparently driven out od San Antonio by Leonard and is probably itching to prove he still is one of the top PGs in the League. He could be a really good mentor for Graham.

LeBron turning over a new leaf • Jul 09, 2018 05:38 PM

@justanotherfan

Neither Miami or Cleveland depended on draft picks when LeBron was there, they relied on trades dictated by LeBron including the Coach at Cleveland. LeBron always wanted a team ready to contend and not one to develop. Kawhi Leonard has already indicated he does not want to play with LeBron ( although George might now be available, again )so the Lakers will wait until 2019 to really build the team since a number of players will be free agents then and LeBron will have an input on who comes in and who goes out. Unless the Lakers can pull some big trades, next season they will be a good team but not necessarily a contender.

Who do you want at QB? • Jul 09, 2018 05:28 PM

@Texas-Hawk-10 @HighEliteMajor

I politely suggest you two agree to disagree and move on since it looks like there will not be an agreement before Late Night and we really do not want football to interfere with basketball, right?. :smile:

Vick Coming Back • Jul 09, 2018 05:19 PM

HighEliteMajor said:

It does beg the question. If Garrett could change his form and work on his shot in the offseason, what was Doke doing last summer? Dunno.

Probably healing and getting physically into playing shape which he still is not quite there yet although he has made great progress. He averaged 23.6 mpg and was the only starter not to be in the 30s. Carrying 280 pounds, even on 7' body has to be pretty taxing.

Vick Coming Back • Jul 09, 2018 05:16 PM

@BeddieKU23

Vick will be on a short leash and if he stray too much he will be gone. I would think one of the reason Coach Self let him come back is because after the Summer he will need just 12 credits to graduate which he can easily do it and graduate in December and, even if he is let go and does not make it to the NBA, at least he will have a college degree to get him started in the real world.

In addition to all the ones mentioned, 3 former Jayhawks playing for the Pelicans, Diallo, Alexander and Coleby. Arthur White and Milton Doyle are still trying to secure a roster spot in the League; both have played on the G League and and off at the the top level.

One thing I noticed is that the KU players I have been following in the Summer League including Mason, Graham, Svi, Newman, Selden and Ellis, particularly the first two, all seem to play very unselfishly often passing shots to feed a player in better position to score, a trait that they obviously picked up at KU. This is pretty noticeable when they are surrounded by a majority of very selfish players that are often taking poor shots rather than sharing the ball.

Devonte • Jul 09, 2018 12:18 AM

@Crimsonorblue22

The commentators seemed to really like Devonté, indicated he will be in the League for a long time.👍

@KUSTEVE

Do you see the block he had on Bagley? That was one impressive block and he stared Bagley down afterwards.

@Crimsonorblue22

Ayton did not miss a single game and went #1 in the draft. Sean Miller is still coaching at Arizona, the school did not get any penalties from the NCAA and we never heard from the alleged tape the FBI had. Either Ayton never took any money as he claims or he figured out how to do it without getting caught. Maybe a Billy should have talked to him...:smile:

Billy Preston got a two way contract ↗ with the Cavaliers. taking that early money sure costed him many millions and security.

He will be the poster child and a cautionary tale for what happens when you get caught taking money under the table.

Vick Coming Back • Jul 07, 2018 06:46 PM

@HighEliteMajor

Remember I said the same thing and you though i was...well... ...starting the weekend early...:smile:

@stoptheflop

Josh played yesterday but not really a good shooting outing. 12 points on 4 of 16 and 0 of 5 from 3 although he had a full court drive to score. He is wearing short hair now.

Devonte • Jul 07, 2018 08:14 AM

@Crimsonorblue22

He coaches the Golden State G League team and was made an assistant for the Warriors for the playoffs and has an NBA Title now.