Perhaps the title of the thread should be coaching âcarouselâ rather than âcarousalâ...Freudian slip? :smiley:
JayHawkFanToo
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The story itself has a note just before the First Four section that indicates all times are Eastern and PM.
Remember all times Eastern Standard Time. or you will be one hour late. :smile:
3 point shooting percentage is impressive.
Pepperdine is not big on basketball. It is more worried about providing stables and a marina for student that bring their horses and boast to school with them.
Lots of posters are taking for granted Seton Hall will beat NC State, I am not sure it will happen.
Coach K and Williams have ongoing health issues and Coach K is one surgery away from retirement but he will probably stick around to torture college basketball and until he find a suitable replacement from among Duke alumni and I don't see anyone stepping up any time soon; Jeff Capel is just not it and I see Jon Scheyer as a better option but still a few years away. Roy Williams would have been gone if the grades investigation went a different way but his health is a serious issue and I see him also actively trying to find a suitable replacement. I don't believe either coach will be around in 5 years.
Coach Self realistically can go for another 10 years and seems happy at KU and I don't see him leaving until the streaks is broken. He seem heavier than i remember and could lose a few pounds; maybe he can get Hudy to set up a exercise/diet regime for him.
In a double elimination tournament, KU does not win in '88 but likely has 4 or more titles in years when one bad game doomed otherwise superior teams.
If you are looking at just athletes independently of basketball, Vick and Cunliffe are generally thought to meet the elite athlete criteria.
The 14 Conference title streak, likely to become 15 game streak, will not be broken unless basketball as we know it changes dramatically.
As comparison, the team with the second longest streak, Villanova at 6 did not win the title this year and they are back to square 1. The only team that i could see making a run is Gonzaga because they play in a very weak conference with maybe one half way decent rival every year and they truly dominate; even Gonzaga got only to11 before it lost.
I would not mind playing a team whose big start shot 5-17 from the field and never got to the FT line.
Barney said:
@JayHawkFanToo I love being correct, but my wife would never believe that I was.
I will be happy to vouch for you. :smile:
At this time of the year, everyone with a microphone or a column/blog makes outrageous prediction that if they come through they look as geniuses otherwise nobody really remembers or cares; win-win for them. Some predictions are so outrageous and idiotic that people remember them for a long time, i.e. Jack Smack.
Let me pose this question. If you are a team with title aspirations in the NCAA, which is the last team you want to see In your bracket or which team you really donât want to play regardless of who you are ? My answer would the KU.
I have been saying for a while now that Tubby is way overrated. He won a title with Pitinoâs players and has not done anything noteworthy since then.
I was going by what we had last season. Now that the final Four will be on TBS, TrueTV has been added to to the TeamCast.
By the way, for those wanting to cut the chord and catch the tournament, here is a summary of streaming services I tried:
- Sling - Best guide. Cheapest if you want limited sports channels. You either get the ESPNs or the various Fox Sports channels. Only one stream allowed at the lower cost ($20),if you want all the channels the cost goes up ($40) and you get 4 streams but you still have to pay extra for the cloud recorder. No local channels or networks. Sports stream lag anywhere from 20 seconds to over a minute. Great ESPN3 options.
- Hulu - good selection of channels. No local channels or cloud recorder at the base price ($40). Multiple stream allowed (4?) but I did not care for the channel guide. Not uncommon to have streaming interruptions. Sports stream lag anywhere from 30 seconds to over a minute.
- YouTubeTV - 60 channels including the ESPNs and FOX Sports channels plus TNT, TBS and TrueTV to get you through March Madness. Several other sports channels and they just sweeten the pot with the MLB and NBA networks and carry the local network stations. Six accounts and 3 streams that can be shared with friends and unlimited cloud recording, all for $35, although I believe the price might have gone up to $40 after the 12 of March when the new channels were added. Decent TV guide and streams perfectly. Least lag of all the streaming services.
All things considered and based on the channels I watch, YouTubeTV is the best value. I locked in at $35 before the increase. To me, it is the best value for sports fans that want and watch lots of sports channels. I believe it is now available in 80 major cities.
What do these coaches have in common?
John Chaney, Jim Boeheim, Rick Pitino, Jerry Tarkenian, Nolan Richardson, John Calipari, Tom Izzo.
All of the HOF coaches who I would not want to coach at KU.
My preferred coach would be Brad Stevens but I am not sure he would leave the Celtics. Next, Archie Miller, best of the younger generation of coaches but he might want leave his mark at Indiana as having revived the program and brought it back to elite status. Then, Tony Bennett, runs a clean and excellent program at Virginia with non-elite players, he would likely have a more active game style of play with the players he could recruit at KU.
No, and this why it is called an âupset,â right?
What you are saying is that since upsets happen rankings donât matter? I donât know how to even answer that.
kjayhawks said:
@JayHawkFanToo Ranking mean absolutely nothing in the tournament, donât care which ones you look at.
Hyperbole much? Of course ratings mean something. Granted they donât mean everything but they do mean quite a bit. If ratings have no meaning then the NCAA should get a bingo cage and draw teams at random instead of going through an elaborate procedure that looks at rankings among other parameters to determine seeding and pairings. The NCAA ranks team from 1 to 68 to seed teams; I am sure they would disagree that ranking mean absolutely nothing.
You are correct.
BShark said:
@Jayhawk-in-OKC Seton Hall is better than WVU imo.
I am curious why you think Seton Hall is better than WVU.
Ranking for WVU an SHU:
- AP - 15 and 38
- Coachâs - 14 and 38
- Sagarin - 9 and 26
- Pomeroy - 13 and 26
- Massey - 15 and 35
- Versus top 25 - 4-6 and 3-5
- Versus top 50 - 14-9 and 5-7
- SOS - 8 and 32
- Seeding - 5 and 8
- Conference - Big 12 is #1 Big East below that.
I donât find any ranking, computer or human, that has Seton Hall even close let alone ahead of West Virginia.
The Ivy League does not give athletics scholarships. All scholarships are based strictly on financial need.
I saw that earlier. Great news.
I am not sure Coach Self will ever grow the long white hair in one the pics above. :smiley:
I believe it is TNT and TBS.
Once DevontĂŠ was selected Conference POY, the chances of Young getting the award at a national level went up in smoke.
Probably the best 3 game stretch all season. Hopefully it means the team is peaking at the right time.
I would think this if he does not play it could be more related to not really needing him and allowing for more recovery time. KU should be able to win the first game, MSM claiming this could be the year this #1 seed, i.e KU goes down notwithstanding, without too much problems with Doke sitting. This would allow two extra days of rest which cannot be underestimated.
On a related note, last evening at dinner with friends, one of them who is pretty savvy and originally from Philadelphia and a big Nova fan indicated that Nova is a pretty âthuggishâ team (his words) and woul be a good matchup for equally thuggish West Virginia. Interesting observation from a Nova fan.
If you believe St. Louis, Omaha and Oklahoma City feel like home, imagine how all those much closer, in-state location feel to Duke.
As I understand it, the pods are regional and apply to the first weekend and this is why the locations seem out of whack with the region. The regions themselves kick in for the second weekend and match the assigned regional name.
Coach Self was interviewed and said Doke is ahead of where doctors thought he would be and he will likely be ready for Thursday but the doctors and trainers have the last word. I am sure there is a video of it available by now.
There is no narrative, just facts. First, you are assuming that only KU fans from Lawrence travel to wherever KU is playing which is not correct. Wichita would be a lot more convenient to KU fans from all over the state than KC which is convenient to fans in the greater KC Metro area only. Given the option of playing in Wichita, even with the great number of WSU fans that hate KU, and Omaha which is not that differente distance wise, I would pick Wichita every time since KU, as a state team, already has a fan base.
How many KU fans do you believe travel for a game, say in Omaha or Oklahoma City? You will likely have a much larger number of fans if you play in state where you already have a fan base, even in Wichita in KUâs case, than out of state. Duke has already a built in fan base in the state and playing in state is a bigger advantage than playing at a closer location out of state. As far as travel and distance, I can fly to Chicago for a lot less than to Oklahoma City or Omaha which are considerably closer. Didnât KU had to play in Lexington instead of Chicago because it was a few miles closer even when a Chicago is a hell of a lot easier and cheaper to get to and has a much larger fan base than Lexington? Given the choice of say, Asheville, NC or Richmond, Va which is closer, which one do you think Duke would prefer?
By the way, KU has earned every single favorable setting by virtue of consistently being a very high seed.
As far as the teams themselves, mileage does not make a difference. If it is close they will ride a luxury bus and if farther away they will fly a charter plane.
Distance by itself is not an indicator of preference as shown above. How about this, I read that 3 or 4 of the #15 seeds and 1 #14 seed are ranked lower than Penn and it is the highest ranked #16 seed in the last 6 years...how is that an advantage for being the overall #3 seed?
Excellent find. Like I said, this has been discussed on KU related sports boards for as far back as we have had sports boards and I have yet to see any evidence he ever did it, even Wilt himself never said he did it only that he âexperimentedâ with it.
I am sure the subject will pop up again in a couple of years.
As far as I can tell the 7â3â kid has no played at all or at least he has no stats. 22 players on the team of which 18 have played. 3 players playing 30 mpg and 9 players with double digit mpg; they certainly seem to use a lot of players.
What am I missing? Out of the 8 initial locations you cited for Duke 4 times they did not have to leave the state and a fifth time they went to Greenville, SC because North Carolina was banned from hosting games and the games were shifted to SC. How can you say they did not have as favorable draw as KU?
Not trying to be a dick but donât you think if he had done it in the junior versus varsity game there would be contemporaneous accounts about the feat other than from the Kansas State Coach that had no business being at that game and Wilt himself never claimed he did it during a game, any game. Donât you think that if true it would have been part of the KU historical narrative and in the media guide and used extensively by the program much like UCLA talks about the dunk being banned because of Kareem?
Like I said, this topic has been discussed extensively over the years and no one has been able to come up with any corroboration. Now, if that is good enough for you then by all means believe the story, it just does not add up for me.
Again, my point is that contrary to popular lore that he did it in HS, Wilt acknowledged he never did and there is no record anywhere he ever did it in any college game or practice even when he was in the junior varsity or that he actually converted one, only that he âexperimentedâ with it. Perhaps that is enough for you but not for me so letâs agree to disagree?
Small correction. Wooden was responsible for 9 of the 13 titles in the Pacific 8 Conference, Bartow had 2 and Cunningham also 2, one in the Pacific 8 and one in the Pacific 10 Conference.
Agree. According to a Pomeroy, 17 teams ranked lower than 68 are playing in the tournament.
The article goes on to say that Wilt did this in HS and then quotes Wilt as saying he never did it in high school but âexperimentedâ with it his first year of college. How could it be said the NCAA banned the play because Wilt did it in HS when he acknowledges he never did it? I love Wilt but I believe this falls under the category of urban legend.
Actually this was discussed either in this board or the previous one and I donât believe anyone could provide proof, other than rumors and annecdotal evidence â, that either Wilt did it or that the NCAA banned it because of him. Maybe and hopefully you have better information.
I know. Regardless of how the team looks at some point in time, I know Coach Self will get it straightened out and the only question is how high of a seed KU will be.:smiley: :thumbsup_tone2:
The NCAA banned the dunk because of Kareem?
I would love for Virginia to run into a low seeded team that gets hot and start hitting everything and hangs 90 on them.
Good luck with the surgery and donât jump up and down while watching games. :smile:
We have a decent inside game now. Silvio and Mitch could have a banner day. If Doke is no 100% healed I would say rest him the first weekend and give him some extra healing time.
I agree except I would not call them blue blood but elite programs, actually High Elite Majors is not a bad moniker...wait...HEM!!! :smiley:
The committee might not like UK but the refs will compensate for that, of course not nearly as much as they will for Duke.
In all fairness, many posters in this forum until a couple of weeks ago were pretty certain KU would not make it out of the first weekend, so hard to fault non-KU fans for not believing.