Agree. OSU is 2-1 against OU including winning the last2 games, 2-1 against KU and 1-1 against WVU. It certainly deserves it more than Trae Young...I mean OU...:smile:
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Vegas literally puts its money where its mouth is...gotta give them credit, they are much better at predicting than we are.
I told you guy early on...we got this...😁👍
Mitch....
So far, so good.
OSU trying to foul up Mitch...
Mitch and Silvio combined for 10 points, 10 rebound, 4 fouls in 19 minutes. Not bad.
That was a travel and they called a foul on Sosinski.
No worries, we got this...
I am in the OSU website?
Robinson was doing a lot of bragging earlier but missed several late shots and the critical free throw. Karma is a beotch.
Yes, indeed, quite a drop from a #4 to a #5 seed.
Both teams blew lots of chances. Close game and both teams are now solidly in; add KU, TTU and WVU and that is 5 teams and counting. OU is now #11 and in the play in game...oh how the mighty have fallen...😂
Here is the entire record...
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1 Seed vs #16 Seed - 132-0 - 100% Winning Percentage #1 Seed
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2 Seed vs #15 Seed - 124-8 - 93.94% Winning Percentage #2 Seed
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3 Seed vs #14 Seed - 111-21 - 84.09% Winning Percentage #3 Seed
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4 Seed vs #13 Seed - 106-26 - 80.30% Winning Percentage #4 Seed
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5 Seed vs #12 Seed - 85-47 - 64.39% Winning Percentage #5 Seed
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6 Seed vs #11 Seed - 83-49 - 62.88% Winning Percentage #6 Seed
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7 Seed vs #10 Seed - 81-51 - 61.37% Winning Percentage #7 Seed
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8 Seed vs #9 Seed - 68-64 - 51.52% Winning Percentage #8 Seed
KSU won so at least he is better than Dixon.
You would think the betting would favor OSU since it has beaten KU twice and Doke is out. Remember, Vegas likes the betting balanced.
What else would you expect from them?
2 are 124-8 against #15 seeds for a 94% winning percentage. Yes, upsets have happened but the odds are long.
Unfortunately that is what most of us believed for a long time but information that came up recently indicates KU was one whisker away from getting the death penalty for a number of violations by Larry Brown. Apparently the penalty was deserved, that is not to say that if the name was Duke or Kentucky, KU would not have gotten away with it.
In a statement, Jayhawks coach Bill Self said Azubuike was hurt in a scrimmage.
"It is isolated. It is a Grade 1 sprain," Self said. "We will hold him out this weekend in Kansas City, and he will be re-evaluated Sunday, and our expectation is that he'll be back on the court next week."
Arthur can probably top that.
Because Ball State administrators are too smart?
The Ringling Brothers Circus Clown College would have been a better option, alas, it does not exist anymore. The creepiness of clowns would have been a perfect match for the Ball family.
Watching a game on TV has a thousand more visual benefits than sitting in a 29,000 seat arena.
Small correction. The Sprint Center basketball capacity is just under 19,000 rather than 29,000.
BTW, a couple of years ago I went to see KU play the Canadian National team and the entire upper section was closed with curtains and there were empty seat in the lower section as well.
I know what you are saying about career length but numbers can tell many different stories.
There are many players that join the League sign one contract for 2 over 3 years and after that they are gone, Other like Jabbar and Nowitzki can have careers that span 20+ years. Fringe players don stay very long and skew the number down quite a bit; starer quality players stay a lot longer.
Minimum of 41 games played in a career = 6.18 seasons.
- Less than 12 minutes per game for a career = 2.01 seasons.
- More than 12 minutes per game for a career but less than 20 = 5.01 seasons.
- More than 20 minutes per game for a career but less than 25 = 7.59 seasons.
- More than 25 minutes per game for a career but less than 30 = 9.21 seasons.
- More than 30 minutes per game for a career = 10.88 seasons.
NBA All-Star at least once = 11.36 seasons.
Obviously the objective of these academies would be to develop quality players, or so a reasonable person would think. Why would the academies bother developing players that will stay in the League 1-3 years when you can pick those anywhere with zero investment? If you take the numbers above for starter quality players needing comparable replacement, then a ten year career is not that unrealistic.
Now, if all they want to do is produce tons of players to replace entire rosters ever 3 years then the academies would make sense...but who would want to see a teams with lots of players with under 3 years experience? Isn't this what college basketball currently is?
The whole concept of having academies is silly.
Let’s see, the NBA ha 30 teams and each carries app. 15 players which makes it 450 active players in the League. Now let’s assume an average career of 10 years which means about 45 players or so are replaced every year. The draft selects 60 players of which 10-15 are foreigners with some experience and out of the 60 maybe 40-50 stick and the rest don’t make it and matches the number of players that retire or are phased out. This means that the NBA would be creating a system of Academies to produce app. 30 players per year?
It makes no sense financially when the G League already exists and what it pays is very low. There is no way these academies would generate any income and could not compete with the excitement of college basketball and its huge fan base.
A much better approach is to allow players to go directly to the League front m HS and the ones that don’t need to wait 3 years improving their game enough to have a chance to either make it in the League or have a career not in sports.
I know. It always amazes me how Smart’s career is based on one win over KU.
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@BeddieKU23 Weird, everyone thought Shaka would be so successful...
Not me. I have always said his record is all smoke and mirrors.
I thought it was Stoolwater...
Conferences are ranked based on the strengths of all team not just the ones at the top. KU, OU, TTU, WVU and I believe TCU have all been ranked in the top 10 at some point and Baylor and Texas have been in the top 20 with KSU also getting votes, so it is not like the conference does not have good teams. You can put the Golden State Warriors on the Big 10 and the conference would still not be good overall. I know you are a Big 10 fan but the conference is very weak overall this season and will likely end up with 4 out of 14 teams in the tournament while the Big 12 might have an historic 8 out of 10 teams.
I read where one of the better known analyst wrote...would you really like to have a Big 12 team, any team including ISU or OSU as your first opponent in the tournament? The answer was no...about what other conference can you say the same thing?
Very few major programs have strong non-con schedules anymore. Unless you play another big school in one of the early season resort tournaments or like the one with Duke, KU and MSU, the chances of playing other major programs are slim. Major programs want to pad their records and small programs are willing to travel and take a pounding for a paycheck. I believe there is small program that played the first 20 games on the road and the paychecks funded the entire athletic department.
Computers rankings look strictly at numbers and don’t usually play favorites and they unanimously have the Big 12 as the top ranked conference.
As the rule exists attending college for one year does not do much for the student athlete, only the NBA benefits by having a high end farm system that costs nothing.
Colleges don’t really benefit that much since there are only a handful of OADs and they spend huge sums of money recruiting, keeping them in luxurious accommodations, providing the best trainers, tutors, facilities and exposure and some don’t even play a game and after one year they are gone. Any athlete that leaves school before 3 years should be required to reimburse the school.
Student athletes either become millionaires at the age of 19 and retire by the time they are 30 and don’t expect to work again, unlike the rest of the people that work until their 60s and some never can really afford to retire and work until they die...for very little money.
The ones that get screwed are the student athletes that are led all along to believe they are good enough to make it in professional sports but they really are not. They don’t make it to the pros and have no degree to fall back.
I personally favor the baseball rule where talented players can go straight to the NBA but if they start college, they have to wait 3 year which is enough time to get them most of the way towards a degree that they can finish if sports don’t work.
He sure is full of himself. A little humility would endear him to a lot more fans instead many see him now as just another spoiled jock. Sad.
Yo will find out who he is any time now, :smile:
OU is in because Trae Young, first half of the season Trae Young that is, is a big draw, without him they are out.
WSU has been a top 20 team all season, a big part of it top 10 and as high as #3. Seems pretty high level to me. You don’t have to be a fan to admit they are a good team.
Printed brackets are overrated. Go to a digital schedule that resets automatically.:smile:
As per Jeff Sagarin KU Strength of schedule is #7, Michigan State is #69, according to KenPom #8 and #62...not close at all. KU does have a strong SOS, Michigan State does not. As I indicated before, it would not surprise me to see MSU as a 3 or even 4 seed; the price you pay for playing in a weak conference and a soft schedule. Nebraska is in the same boat and might not even make it to the tournament.
What about scoring? I posted he averages 10.4 ppg which is about 12.5% of WSU’s 83 ppg average and he plays 23.4 mpg out of 200 minutes or 11.7%...sounds about right to me.
Interesting note, KU is 1-3 against OU and OSU, I would prefer playing OU since OSU seems to be a bad matchup for KU.
I would like tournaments to reseed after the early rounds. I know there have been proposals to do it in the NCAA but I seriously doubt it will ever happen.
Frankamp is basically a sound basketball player but does not have the natural athleticism, speed or size to keep up with elite players. He excels at 3 point shooting which is a skill he acquired through hard work. Can’t blame the kid for wanting to play at the highest level possible.
Slow down Sista...My numbers were correct at the time I posted them as per ESPN and they did not include the last game against Cincinnati where Morris and Kelly played 33 and 31 minutes or 10 and 8 minutes above their averages compared to Fankamp 21 which was 2 minutes under his, so Morris and Kelly season averages went up by tenths of a minute and inched up barely past Frankamp and they are now 23.6, 23.5 and 23.4 mpg or 0.2 tenths of a minutes or a whole 12 seconds difference per game between now 2nd place Morris and 4th place Frankamp...12 seconds....if Frankamp plays 7-8 minutes more In the next game than Morris or Kelly he is back in second place. Do the math, it adds up. I call this negligible, what would you call it?
In any case, my actual point was that he is playing considerably more than he would be at KU.
They did win the regular season conference title by 2 full games.
The last 8 wins for Nebraska we’re against unranked teams in the very weak Big 10. Only 2 of its wins have been against ranked team teams including the 3rd game of conference play against Minnesota which since then has fallen on hard times and has not been ranked for awhile and finished the season 4-14 in conference play and the other against then #23 Michigan which just returned the favor in the last game beating Nebraska by 19 points. Not the record of a solid candidate.
Frankamp averaged 23.4 mpg, 2nd in the team, only Shamet played more. 10.4 ppg and 2.4 app and a perfect 32 of 32 from the FT. I would have to say pretty decent numbers considering 10 players average double digit minutes and 6 average 20 mpg or better.
OU might miss the tournament but would they leave Trae Young out? Would ESPN allow it? I think Young goes in as a high #5 seed. :smiley_cat:
Lots of 13 win teams don’t make it to the dance. Considering how weak the Big 10 is this year and that it does not have a true round robin so many of theirs wins are against the weaker team they played twice but played MSU, Purdue and OSU only once and lost. Their RPI is #64.
For some reason OSU is a bad matchup for KU. Hopefully KU does not run into a similar team in the NCAA. To make a run in the NCAA you obviously need some talent, favorable matchups, hope you don’t run into a hot team and a good dose of luck.
MSU’s record is against poor pre-conference competition and a poor Big 10. Of the games they played against decent competition, they beat UNC and Purdue and lost to Duke, Ohio State and Michigan...twice. I would not be surprised to see them as a 3 or 4 seed since they are #14 in the NCAA RPI.
In that case Trae Young is screwed. Casual fans don’t usually vote much, the bulk of the votes comes from people like us that vote every day for our favorite player.
Players laughing all the way to the bank likely disagree. :smiley: