@wrwlumpy I think Vick starts, and Svi becomes our 6th man.
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@mayjay I'll help you with it.
@AsadZ Make SURE you have an ad blocker installed when you use First Row, like Ghostery.
@mayjay I saw that. 29 bucks. I'll find it for free online.
@JayHawkFanToo This ought to be condemned worldwide, yet you barely hear a peep. The blockade against the truth about socialism continues.
Prayers go out to your wife. I agree we have a pitbull in the making with Lighfoot. I get the feeling we'll be much stronger down low than in the past, which will help our tournament chances immensely. I think we'll have the most balanced team since 2012.
@DoubleDD You are giving far too much credit to a person who currently uses his brain like a hat rack. HEM is mailing it in, and is a far cry from what he used to be. "Bill Self flapping his wings like a chicken?" How dare we not want to build up Misery basketball, eh? If he wants to use his gifts to talk basketball, real basketball...I'm all in. If he wants to antagonize, and take pot shots because of his eternal boner against Coach Self, then he is a smarter, more eloquent el poyo.
**The Unanimous Declaration of the Thirteen United States of America
When, in the course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bonds which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the laws of nature and of nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shown that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security. -Such has been the patient sufferance of these colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former systems of government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute tyranny over these states. To prove this, let facts be submitted to a candid world.
He has refused his assent to laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.
He has forbidden his governors to pass laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.
He has refused to pass other laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of representation in the legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.
He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their public records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.
He has dissolved representative houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.
He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected; whereby the legislative powers, incapable of annihilation, have returned to the people at large for their exercise; the state remaining in the meantime exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within.
He has endeavored to prevent the population of these states; for that purpose obstructing the laws for naturalization of foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migration hither, and raising the conditions of new appropriations of lands.
He has obstructed the administration of justice, by refusing his assent to laws for establishing judiciary powers.
He has made judges dependent on his will alone, for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.
He has erected a multitude of new offices, and sent hither swarms of officers to harass our people, and eat out their substance.
He has kept among us, in times of peace, standing armies without the consent of our legislature.
He has affected to render the military independent of and superior to civil power.
He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his assent to their acts of pretended legislation:
For quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:
For protecting them, by mock trial, from punishment for any murders which they should commit on the inhabitants of these states:
For cutting off our trade with all parts of the world:
For imposing taxes on us without our consent:
For depriving us in many cases, of the benefits of trial by jury:
For transporting us beyond seas to be tried for pretended offenses:
For abolishing the free system of English laws in a neighboring province, establishing therein an arbitrary government, and enlarging its boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule in these colonies:
For taking away our charters, abolishing our most valuable laws, and altering fundamentally the forms of our governments:
For suspending our own legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.
He has abdicated government here, by declaring us out of his protection and waging war against us.
He has plundered our seas, ravaged our coasts, burned our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people.
He is at this time transporting large armies of foreign mercenaries to complete the works of death, desolation and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of cruelty and perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the head of a civilized nation.
He has constrained our fellow citizens taken captive on the high seas to bear arms against their country, to become the executioners of their friends and brethren, or to fall themselves by their hands.
He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavored to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian savages, whose known rule of warfare, is undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions.
In every stage of these oppressions we have petitioned for redress in the most humble terms: our repeated petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A prince, whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.
Nor have we been wanting in attention to our British brethren. We have warned them from time to time of attempts by their legislature to extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction over us. We have reminded them of the circumstances of our emigration and settlement here. We have appealed to their native justice and magnanimity, and we have conjured them by the ties of our common kindred to disavow these usurpations, which, would inevitably interrupt our connections and correspondence. They too have been deaf to the voice of justice and of consanguinity. We must, therefore, acquiesce in the necessity, which denounces our separation, and hold them, as we hold the rest of mankind, enemies in war, in peace friends.
We, therefore, the representatives of the United States of America, in General Congress, assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the name, and by the authority of the good people of these colonies, solemnly publish and declare, that these united colonies are, and of right ought to be free and independent states; that they are absolved from all allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the state of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as free and independent states, they have full power to levy war, conclude peace, contract alliances, establish commerce, and to do all other acts and things which independent states may of right do. And for the support of this declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.
New Hampshire: Josiah Bartlett, William Whipple, Matthew Thornton
Massachusetts: John Hancock, Samual Adams, John Adams, Robert Treat Paine, Elbridge Gerry
Rhode Island: Stephen Hopkins, William Ellery
Connecticut: Roger Sherman, Samuel Huntington, William Williams, Oliver Wolcott
New York: William Floyd, Philip Livingston, Francis Lewis, Lewis Morris
New Jersey: Richard Stockton, John Witherspoon, Francis Hopkinson, John Hart, Abraham Clark
Pennsylvania: Robert Morris, Benjamin Rush, Benjamin Franklin, John Morton, George Clymer, James Smith, George Taylor, James Wilson, George Ross
Delaware: Caesar Rodney, George Read, Thomas McKean
Maryland: Samuel Chase, William Paca, Thomas Stone, Charles Carroll of Carrollton
Virginia: George Wythe, Richard Henry Lee, Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Harrison, Thomas Nelson, Jr., Francis Lightfoot Lee, Carter Braxton
North Carolina: William Hooper, Joseph Hewes, John Penn
South Carolina: Edward Rutledge, Thomas Heyward, Jr., Thomas Lynch, Jr., Arthur Middleton
Georgia: Button Gwinnett, Lyman Hall, George Walton**
God Bless America. Take 5 minutes, and look at a few pictures of life in North Korea- we sometimes have no clue how good we have it:
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@BShark It's almost like recruiting is shady. What he said.
@bskeet Dolts? I prefer to call them egg sucking dogs.
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@wrwlumpy Oh...HOT DIGGITY DAWG! Beautiful. He's always going to be one of my favs. Loved those 3 point bombs...
The freaking Misery Tiggers. Signs a few hotshots, and now wants to play us again. Make the tournament, Chumps. We'll play you. If those egg sucking dogs ever show their mangy faces in basketball again, I'll be surprised. Cuonzo just got thru squandering some of the best talent in America- now he has to familiarize himself with concepts like .... spontaneous combustion, and meth labs in order to understand the short attention span, and fire risks associated with flammable meth-head Tigger fans.
@Texas-Hawk-10 No doubt we play not to lose. We aren't the same team in the Elite 8 game. Guess who we used to say the same thing about? Roy Williams. With good reason. Roy overcame tightening up his team, and Bill will too. Hopefully this year.
Mr. Hat and Mr. Garrison are having a disagreement. Oh My...
Here comes the Big Ten. 300 million dollars to improve the football facilities, stadium, practice field. Astonishing. I'm thinking it will be the Clones, Silo Tech, and us that make the jump. Home and Home bb with MSU, the Candy Stripers, and Wisky. Nice...
http://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/kansas-planning-to-spend-300-million-to-renovate-its-stadium/ β β
@HighEliteMajor the problem is when the only measure used is a national title, then you miss the genius of bringing in experienced players in order to prevent a full rebuild year. Now, if I had posed the initial question of : "will the 3 transfers lead us to the national title"???? then I would understand el putrid's stupidity, and blatant attack ( for the 10,000th time) on our program. Here is the definition of what el putrid did:
In Internet slang, a troll (/ΛtroΚl/, /ΛtrΙl/) is a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people, by posting inflammatory,[1] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a newsgroup, forum, chat room, or blog) with the intent of provoking readers into an emotional response[2] or of otherwise disrupting normal, on-topic discussion,[3] often for the troll's amusement.
See how the entire gist of the thread went from complimenting Coach Self on his transfers, to running down Coach Self for not winning more national titles?
@HighEliteMajor We're just in terrible shape, aren't we?
@elpoyo I know it's hard for a CNN reporter to grasp, but I was talking about next year's team. Come back at the end of next year, and we'll see if my positive vision wins, or your gutter sniping wins out.
@Texas-Hawk-10 Those are 3 really tough dudes we're adding to the lineup.The experience they bring will be invaluable. Defensively, we should be really good.
@approxinfinity Your fears will always be justified on the EJ type point guard. My gosh, what a nightmare that was for years. So I get that all the way. I say " me, too." But this kid is far more than an EJ with the ball, imo. He has learned to use his superior height on the perimeter, and is quite proficient with the ball, imho. I see a real match up problem for other teams. I can see why people see him and think " Vick", and not a point guard. Here's the highlight film I like the best- you might've already seen it, but it's worth watching again:
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@jaybate-1.0 He was smart enough to pick KU, so gotta give him 5 stars for intelligence. His favorite player, and the player he looks up to on our team is Devonte, so gotta give him 5 stars for that. They interviewed Garrett after Devonte announced he was coming back for his senior year, and he genuinely was relieved and very happy Devonte was coming back. What we get with Garrett is a team first player, with a real knack for defense. A kid that can handle the ball, can hit a teammate with a perfect pass, can shoot it from 3, or drive it to the hoop. 5 star Jethro certified. He's a keeper.
@jaybate-1.0 He is Hall of Fame because he has risen above the shoe embargo. The embargo is real - his genius is too.
@dylans It's really an ingenious way to offset graduations, jumping to the NBA, and transfers of our own. If Doke somehow doesn't jump to the big leagues, then next year, we have the best front line we've had since TROB, Withey, and the Morii twins. Worst case we have Charlie, Garrett, and more than likely Cunliffe on the perimeter. Not sure if he'll use KJ at the 3, or whether he's a 4- either way, we've got a very good defensive player added to the mix. If Vick comes back, that perimeter looks solid. Maybe a Moore/Vick/KJ/Dedric/Doke lineup. That would be a scary team. The experience that team would have would rival 2012. We would dominate the boards, sort of like UNC did last year.
The one and done conundrum. Solved. How to sign 5 star talent when you have no minutes to spare... no room at the inn. How in the world was Bill was supposed to bring in a 5 star guard when Frank and Devonte were starters etched in stone, and the trio of JJ, Svi, and Vick guaranteed the 5 star would have almost no playing time available??? To make the situation favor us even more, let's have the 5 star guard practice in our system for an entire year without taking away a second from our other players, so he'll be ready when Frank graduates. Now we have a 5 star guard going into his 3rd year of college ball, with a year of experience in our system. Brilliant!
The 5 Star Transfer eliminates the freshman learning curve- it allows the 5 star to ease into the system with confidence and poise. The year layoff builds a burning competitive fire where they feel compelled to prove to themselves they can still be great. The simple taking away a year of play in games that count drives the 5 Star to visualize what they want to achieve when they do get to play. The season becomes more valuable. Each game becomes a treasured treat, because you finally get to play.
So, the Newman signing could have as much impact as the JJ signing.
Now, here's the Rubiks Cube part ...
What if we lost all 5 starters? We've done that before...remember 2013? How did all those freshmen look ? Well, DG and Svi are gone. Newman's gone. Preston could be gone. Doke, too. Maybe Vick. So, we are going to simply have to rebuild, right? No experience means no ring. No Final Four. No 2nd weekend. We don't really have any playing time this year to train a whole new team, so our Rubik's cube is mucked up. The colors are not lining up, and it looks like for the first time in Bill's career, he will truly have to start from scratch. How can we magically impart experience to a team that has no experience?
THE TRANSFER STACK:
Sign 3 transfers...3 starters who can take a full year to learn our system. 3 Amigos going into their 3rd year of college. Instant experience added. One potential Big 12 POY, one potential poor man's Frank Mason, and one potential Big 12 all defensive team. Experience out the wazoo. 3 players chomping at the bit to play in a game that means something after a long layoff. The colors line up. The Rubik's Cube is solved. The transfer stack is born.
@jaybate-1.0 Coach doesn't recruit over his players for the most part. He did recruit Doke to start last year over LL, and that process was well on its way before Doke got hurt. We had no minutes to give any top flight guard- can you imagine the team turmoil if he had brought in a player that sent DG to the bench? Mutiny on the Bounty time because the team loves DG. Our big miss was Jarrett Allen. Now, putting aside Allen's bad haircut and lamb chops, the guy would've been nails down low. But Allen wanted guaranteed minutes, and Bill makes his guys earn it. Several of us have openly called for Coach to recruit over a few of our "energy" guys, and he'll recruit top 30 talent, but he'll still play the old nag over the top 30 talent. He trusts them more.
@mayjay Here's the pull quote:
"North Carolina missed on five-star forward Kevin Knox last weekend -- at which point Andrew Carter, who covers the Tar Heels for The News & Observer, detailed how Knox became the 46th top-25 recruit to reject a UNC offer in the past five recruiting cycles. In that same stretch, North Carolina has enrolled just three top-25 prospects -- Isaiah Hicks, Justin Jackson and Theo Pinson."
I wonder how many top 25 recruits we've signed in the past 5 years...
@BShark I'm really excited over him being in the fold. Just a great kid- extremely talented, with a natural poise both off and on the court that will serve him well throughout his life. I am officially deeming him a Jethro 5 Star recruit.
@Crimsonorblue22 Nice find.
@jaybate-1.0 UNC had their first one and done this year since 2007. Roy goes out, and signs 4 stars all day long, and they stick around. And they win. They beat the 5 star stacks. i sometimes wonder if we'd be better off in the long run looking for that solid 4 star that will be here for years, instead of the 5 star one and done. Not getting 5 star players hasn't seemed to hurt UNC at all.
Ainge is a little high strung. Walk softly around him, avoid eye contact, and don't make any sudden movements.
JJ let the teams that passed him up have it. I've said all along, he is a once in a generation competitor. I think he'll make Boston rue the day they chose Tatum over him:
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Mr Jackson...in Phoenix....beautiful....
@approxinfinity Any day of the week. It will go down in history as the worst mistake in draft history.
@approxinfinity What a bizarre man.
@elpoyo Serious question: do you work for CNN?
@mayjay So, where do you see Josh being drafted? I'm thinking number 3, although I could be wrong.
We need some basketball, man. Italy can't come soon enough.
I think it's time to pull out the dead horse image again.
I'm of the opinion that Garrett could play the point. But I could certainly see Coach wanting to use that size at the 2/3. Perhaps that is why KUSPORTS listed Garret at 6'7". Our ball handling skills could be off the charts next year with Moore, Garrett, and whoever else we bring in.
I missed your post. I deleted my duplicate post.
Charlie did not make the cut for the USA U19 men's bb team. Selfishly, I am glad he didn't make it, as it gives him more time to get settled in at KU:
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@BShark Do you think we need him? We've got Charlie Moore, Cunliffe, Garrett, and Vick. You're the recruiting whiz..would he help us?
His personality traits are brilliant on the court. They allow him to be the ultimate competitor, the most aggressive player on the court. In real life, those traits can be quite a problem. So, he'll have to learn to fake it off the court. Maybe the next time, he trash talks the girl, but he doesn't bust out her windshield. Maybe the next time he hits a parked car, he calls his agent, and everything is fixed. His core will never change- he is, and will always be a carnivore.
@Kcmatt7 Jayhawkfantoo has been calling this one for a year. He's shaping up right on time, when we need him the most. I love the kid. His face looks like he's 13, but there's a tough dude behind that youthful mug. I'm thinking a fu manchu might do the trick.
@Bosthawk I think his daddy has laid an extra tough path for him with his flapping jaws.
If any team is stupid enough to pick a Lonzo Ball ahead of a Josh Jackson, then they get what they deserve. Josh Jackson, imo, is very close to being a once a generation player. Free throw shooting and 3 point shooting be damned-you don't see that fiery aggressiveness, and passion every day. He'll learn how to make free throws, and shoot better, but he already possesses that very rare warrior mentality that will make him an elite player in the NBA for years to come. I can't wait to see him play the next level.
@mayjay That was before my time. I did write a very unfavorable paper on the JBS in high school.