@BShark seems like that works out for both parties honestly. Turgeon has underperformed imo
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Like to see us take 16 3pt attempts while Dave also got his still
At this point I’ll give up and say play Zach until he sucks. Because so far he has yet to suck
@BShark lefty
They need to find some D-Line bodies in the portal. Ideally a nice pass rusher.
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@FarmerJayhawk makes too much sense right? Lots of Urban Meyer talk but I don't see it.
Poaching rn is unreal. Who’s next?
They'll get the D sorted out. Always feels like Bill needs to see how best to pull those strings and by conference play we're elite defensively. We are a Kenpom top 5 offense even while playing Harris 27 mpg. Last year's defense finished 12th on Kenpom and we returned almost everyone and have a better bench. Bill will get that sorted out.
Honestly we've only played shitty in the 2nd half of two games. Otherwise this team has been as advertised. Once Bill sprinkles his magic fairy dust on the defense I think we will start to see some impressive wins. I'm definitely a little sour from this tournament, but overall we are still a top 5 team.
Use about whatever metric you want, Yes is a top 4 guard on a team that plays 4 guards a majority of the time (depending on how you view Jalen I suppose). He needs to be seeing the court 20 minutes a game at least.
@BShark said in Pastries for Thought:
Obviously the sample size with Yes and Zach is small but I do think they merit more consideration. I'd like to see less time for Harris, and man Jalen has really been terrible so far.
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@approxinfinity said in Iona Game Thread:
Yes needs more minutes
I honestly thought he’d be getting 15 mpg
@Crimsonorblue22 could have been better. No students because of break
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Leipold will get KU there. The evidence is there as KU was very competitive in its final 3 games and 4 out of the last 6. KU was also one of the least penalized teams in the country which is a positive sign.
KU's defense forced 8 turnovers over the last three games. Jalon Daniels has appeared to emerge as a clear cut starter going into the off-season which is something KU hasn't had a very long time. Devin Neal has emerged a top level back.
Leipold and staff obviously still have work to do on both sides of the ball, but there's a lot of positive things to build on this off-season.
Youngest roster in P5 as well. We’re going to work the portal hard to infuse the defense with some speed and the offense with some experienced depth. I’m pumped.
Went to the game tonight. A lot to love about this squad.
Say what you want about K.
He put Timme in ball screens. He let the hot hand shoot. He outcoached Few.
Frustrating to watch coaches play to strengths rather than to a system.
Gonzaga not invincible.
Duke proof you don’t have to have to play through a post player just because they’re 6’10
All I know is both of these teams would whoop our ass if we played today.
@benshawks08 said in Dayton Game Thread:
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@approxinfinity said in Dayton Game Thread:
Dave showed he can make big shots down the stretch in close games last year. He just started out sucking this year and he needs to get his head right. If he can’t do that without the ball always going through him then I don’t want to ride the struggle bus to get there, nor do the other 9 rotation guys.
Dave should NEVER be the guy we play through with a minute left. You have two players in Ochai and Remi too good to play through Dave.
Jesse Newell can talk about Remy hero ball, but literally all Frank did down the stretch was hero ball. Same with Graham. It’s what you do with PGs who can score the ball the way Remy does.
I do think Jesse hinted at the real issue which is Bill doesn’t trust Remy. Their relationship HAS to evolve (from both of them) for this season to go the way we all want it to.
Remy still gets pulled for defensive mistakes and Jalen no D Wilson comes in for him on the last defensive possession. When Remy gets pulled you can see it kills him. He does not hide his disgust. He plays hard and wants to win but his game and selfs game are not the same. Hopefully this game does something to bring them together. They both gotta give.
From what we’ve seen if Remy so far vs how he was at ASU the ego is from one side of this equation… Remy has for the most part been a patient and willing passer/teammate and decent enough defender . Some has to check their ego at the door and it isn’t the 23 year old.
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@approxinfinity said in Dayton Game Thread:
Dave showed he can make big shots down the stretch in close games last year. He just started out sucking this year and he needs to get his head right. If he can’t do that without the ball always going through him then I don’t want to ride the struggle bus to get there, nor do the other 9 rotation guys.
Dave should NEVER be the guy we play through with a minute left. You have two players in Ochai and Remi too good to play through Dave.
Jesse Newell can talk about Remy hero ball, but literally all Frank did down the stretch was hero ball. Same with Graham. It’s what you do with PGs who can score the ball the way Remy does.
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@approxinfinity To be clear I agree the game should have never been that close. And the first fifteen minutes of the first half (and really the last 5-10 of the first) are much more significant. But many games are going to come down to crunch time and if Dave is the go to guy at the end of the game I’m just not sure what we are even doing.
There is no excuse for Remy to not touch the ball the last possession, nor him playing only 25 minutes today. He was the best player on the court today and we were +15 with him on the floor.
He is on this team because he can score the ball. Complete failure today, almost surely based on ego.
Duke hot.
Bill would pull Banchero right about now because of defense or something.
@wissox idk high expectations.
Look at the football team. We’re willing to endure.
Not all of us have a 2nd college team to follow.
@BShark said in Dayton Game Thread:
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@BeddieKU23 said in Dayton Game Thread:
It will. That was a designed play to get Dave a look at the hoop, everyone knows he doesn't pass. That's after the game he's had while Och Remy and CB had provided all the offense. It's bad coaching on that play. Regardless of the bad call it was designed to get him the ball because at no point in the game had we pinned Dave in the lane to go get a bucket
If KU actually shown any effort the second half, it doesn't come down to the final possession. That's why this game is on the players and not Self. Bill Self was not the one on the floor saying fuck it foe 15 minutes and not giving any effort.
Agree with this. Hopefully they are engaged for all 40 minutes on Sunday.
Bill ducked around in the first half with the Harris/Bobby/JCL/Wilson/Mitch lineup too though. Could have put them away earlier… had every opportunity to be up 15 at half
Borderline I think the best fit for this team is to play KJ 15 mpg and run. At least he has athleticism to match.
@BShark serious question, why do we need a post scorer? There is plenty of offense elsewhere. Just tell Dave to set screens and catch lobs.
@Kubie against non-P5 talent… he should be dominating these games. But he still has the legs of a baby deer and the coordination of a toddler.
@KirkIsMyHinrich I’m really not even mad at the players.
Bill biffed this one. He’s got a friggen Lamborghini parked in the garage with Remy and we fed our ogre of a C like he shoots 75% from the field on our last possession.
Play out of a timeout before that we set a double screen for a guy scared to shoot the ball.
We played at least 7 minutes today without at least 2 of Braun, Och and Remy on the court for some god forsaken reason.
Didn’t make any sense.
@approxinfinity right. We didn’t play Wilson at the 5 once. Dave saw 26 minutes and only had 5 rebounds and missed 3 bunnies. Remy only played 25 minutes.
Sure our guys shot horribly, but we did plenty to hurt ourselves.
Wilson olayed 23 minutes and didn’t make a field goal.
Bill lost this game. Remy played 25 minutes and didn’t even touch the ball the last possession.
What the fuck was that Bill?
Remy +17 in 25 minutes
Harris -4 on the floor today. Only starter in the negative.
-10 with Mitch on the floor
CB has 5 swipes today. Dave has 4
Maybe 7 in 10
Lmao. 6 forced turnovers in the last 9 possessions I think
Give Remy the ball every damn possession from here on
Why do you have Harris start the play like that? Not a threat to score
I mean seriously we should apply so much pressure on D all 40 minutes. We have the depth to do it. Absurd that we are capable of forcing 4 turnovers in 5 possessions like this when we want.
Why wait until 5 minutes to start playing D?
4 point swing there from 3 missed layups
Harris is such a wuss.
No Remy and no Och. Wtf is this lineup?
9 for 22
This is a joke. Can’t guard anyone right now
WTF WAS THAT EFFORT OCH?
Absolute crime Harris has played more than Remy so far today
@BeddieKU23 getting absolutely torched in the Pick and Roll