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jayballer73 said:

rockchalkwyo said:

Please forgive the ignorance. With everyone debating whether Wilson should take a medical redshirt or not made me wonder if Doke can take a medical redshirt for last year. He only played 9 games, and I was wondering what the cut off was for being eligible. Also, there's been discussions on whether he's even a fit in the NBA. Now if he technically can take a RS I don't at all see him doing it, I was just wondering if he's at least eligible.

Please keep rude comments to yourself if I'm just completely wrong on this. I believe that even when I disagree with people on here I do it with respect. We're all Jayhawks here.

Don't think Doke is or would be eligible for a medical redshirt my friend - I think he has already taken that.

Doke should be eligible for a medical redshirt for his freshman or junior seasons of he chose so. He only played in 11 of KU's 36 games as a freshman and 9 of 36 games last season. I don't see it happening, but Doke should have the option should he choose to come back and further refine his game.

Was Gianna his oldest or second oldest?

Some reports are saying Rick Fox was also on the helicopter.

RIP Mamba! Kobe was always my favorite player to watch play because of his will to win. I watched MJ, but was too young to really appreciate his greatness in the moment. Kobe was the standard for me for NBA greatness.

I do pray that the speculation that Kobe's daughters being on the helicopter with him is inaccurate.

BeddieKU23 said:

@Texas-Hawk-10

The comment was heat of the moment as I watched Moretti and another freshman miss critical free throws. I understand he has a young team and I expect KU will have trouble beating them coming up. They should have won that game last night

That's part of the growing up process for an inexperienced team though. That's the next step in the growth of that group is learning how to finish out close games against good teams. They're a good defensive team, probably 3rd best on the league behind KU and Baylor so I think they'll get there by the end of the season. I could easily see them knock off KU in Lubbock to close out the regular season.

bskeet said:

tundrahok said:

@bskeet I meant I disagree with Bilas. He said it was unnecessary. I thought it was awesome. At least, if had ended there.

Oh! I had not heard Bilas say that. I thought in his column earlier in the week, he was not critical of the block..

Anyway, I will give him credit for being very level-headed, thoughtful and balanced on this topic. But I will agree with you that the block itself was not the problem. I might even go so far as to say it was appropriate given the steal.

Anyone criticizing the block should remember this simple equation: No steal = No block.

The block was never the issue. If Silvio still makes that block, lets out a yell while walking away, nothing else happens. Standing over Gordon is what sparked everything else that followed. We can blame Love for coming off the bench and he definitely deserves his fair share of blame for that, but it doesn't mean Silvio wasn't in the wrong standing over Gordon and taunting him as well.

BeddieKU23 said:

Tech is terrible

Tech isn't terrible, they're inexperienced and haven't learned how to finish close games yet. They really only have 1 bad loss on the season to DePaul, all the rest are reasonable losses. I think I heard during their game yesterday that they have 9 new players on the roster this season. To have that many new faces at a program like Tech and to be ranked for most of the season is a good accomplishment. With the inconsistency of most programs this year, if they could pick up a win over WVU on Monday and/or KU in either match up, get to 10-8 in league play, and reach the B12 semis, Tech will be back in the NCAA tournament. I don't think a lot of people realize just how difficult that job is. Lubbock is in the middle of nowhere which hurts recruiting efforts, and they're usually the afterthought program of the major conference Texas schools.

Beard is doing a very good job with that program and if he stays long term (that's going to be the biggest hurdle for Tech), he'll have them as a consistent challenger to KU.

Doke has always been KU's most important player. They will go as far as he takes them. Tennessee face OSU a blueprint to beat KU without McCormack and Silvio, get Doke in foul trouble and force Self to play Tristan at the 5 or go with a 5 guard line up with either Garrett or Ochai guarding the opposing post players.

Beard is a good coach, Tech is an extremely inexperienced team this season and Beard still has them playing a pretty high level of defense. If the offense clicks for them at any point this season, they're a top level B12 program. Tech is a difficult program to recruit to and Beard has brought in good talent and will have Tech being a consistent B12 contender if he's there long enough.

jayballer73 said:

Texas Hawk 10 said:

dylans said:

@jayballer73 The radio ESPN guys think it helps KU - more playing time for shooters Moss and Braun.

It also means either Doke playing 40 minutes and probably being gassed at the end or Tristan playing at the 5 for a couple of games.

They brought out the fact that Doke has been playing like 33 minutes the last 2-3 games. Think your or what they are saying Enaruna going to spot Doke for couple of minutes

That's only if he stays out of foul trouble. Guaranteed Tennessee is going to be doing everything they can to get Doke in early foul trouble today.

jayballer73 said:

dylans said:

@jayballer73 The radio ESPN guys think it helps KU - more playing time for shooters Moss and Braun.

That's what I'm saying too - - I don't get it why they think that it hurts us that much

Here's how it hurts KU. If I'm Barnes, I'm telling my team to drive at Doke to try and get him in foul trouble. Anything to get two quick fouls on him and drive Self to either play Doke with two fouls or bring Tristan in at the 5.

It doesn't affect the perimeter at all and forces the 4 guard offense, but it does affect the front court because Self doesn't have a true low post player active except for Doke for the next two games. KU could also have a 5 guard line up on the floor at some point if Tristan is as bad as he's been lately as well with either Ochai or Garrett at the 5. When Doke comes off the floor, there's going to be some interesting line ups for Self out there the next two games.

dylans said:

@jayballer73 The radio ESPN guys think it helps KU - more playing time for shooters Moss and Braun.

It also means either Doke playing 40 minutes and probably being gassed at the end or Tristan playing at the 5 for a couple of games.

Did Seth Greenberg seriously just say the B10 will get 12 teams in the NCAA tournament?

I could see the B12 coming out on top. Kansas, Baylor, and WVU are the three B12 programs that should win today.

Baylor should not lose that game. Florida is a good team and the win over Auburn has given a lot of people belief they can beat Baylor, but they also lost to Missouri as well. Baylor. Baylor knows how to win on the road so they should be able win today.

Auburn and Alabama are the two SEC teams that should win today. The other 5 games are toss ups to me. If Kentucky beats Tech, I think the SEC wins and if Tech wins, I think it ends in a draw.

Tristan gonna be getting minutes at the 5 now.

If this was game two without the rematch coming, I would say go easier on the suspensions, but this was the first meeting so I would go harsher on both sides to send a message to try and deter another incident happening in Manhattan.

bskeet said:

Texas Hawk 10 said:

rockchalkwyo said:

I’m glad Silvio stared him down. They stole the ball while we’re having the clock run out and Silvio had a bad a$$ block. KSU started it by rushing SDS. What I do not like, and I mean DO NOT LIKE is the chair The rest is a blur for me. It seems like David and Garrett tried to separate players.

Silvio needed to walk away after the block, that's ultimately what started everything was Silvio not walking away after the block.

True.. although, it could also be argued that the start was the meaningless steal and attempt to score when down by 22 with 2 seconds left..

Sure, but that also happened against Monmouth and nothing escalated after that. Silvio standing over Gordon taunting him is what escalated this and got the KSU bench involved. If Silvio makes the block and walks away, nothing escalates so Silvio standing over Gordon and running his mouth is what started this.

COHawk said:

So any conjecture whether we will have more than 3 players for Saturday's game?

Worst case is KU would be down Garrett, McCormack, and Silvio. Nobody else on KU even appeared to do anything other than break up the fight.

KU will for sure be without Silvio, and possibly without McCormack.

Doke is going to have to Ironman it out Saturday and Enaruna is probably going to play some 5 as well on Saturday.

Just read what the ejections were for. The reason all but 10 players were ejected were for leaving the bench area. The 10 on the floor at the time the brawl started were the 10 called back for the final sequence. Everyone else was ejected for leaving the bench area.

Kubie said:

Ok, lets assume Silvio is gone long term, 5+ games. McCormack, at best he's out a game or two just for stumbling around over people waving his arms. So is Mitch's redshirt coming off, at this point in the season I'd hate to see that happen personally.

No chance. With the severity of Silvio's reaction, there's a high likelihood that Mitch would be the starting 4 next season next to Dave.

kjayhawks said:

@jayballer73 still don’t see it and it looks like a KSU bench warmer threw hands first.

A KSU player did throw the first punch, but Dave threw one in the middle of all that as well.

On the KU side, Silvio is going to get at least 5 games, Dave is probably going to get 1 game. Garrett looked like he should be in the clear discipline wise from the B12, we'll see if Self does anything.

@kjayhawks Dave threw a punch in there.

Enaruna better learn how to play some 5 real quick because he's going to be Doke's back up on Saturday.

rockchalkwyo said:

jayballer73 said:

rockchalkwyo said:

I’m glad Silvio stared him down. They stole the ball while we’re having the clock run out and Silvio had a bad a$$ block. KSU started it by rushing SDS. What I do not like, and I mean DO NOT LIKE is the chair The rest is a blur for me. It seems like David and Garrett tried to separate players.

David took a swing at a player

I guarantee KSU swung first

Doesn't matter, Silvio and Dave each threw punches, they will be suspended for that. The KSU players will get their suspensions as well, but KU is going to be without a back up for Doke on Saturday now.

rockchalkwyo said:

I’m glad Silvio stared him down. They stole the ball while we’re having the clock run out and Silvio had a bad a$$ block. KSU started it by rushing SDS. What I do not like, and I mean DO NOT LIKE is the chair The rest is a blur for me. It seems like David and Garrett tried to separate players.

Silvio needed to walk away after the block, that's ultimately what started everything was Silvio not walking away after the block.

There should be 2 KU players suspended for sure, Silvio at least 5 games, Dave probably gets 1 game, and the B12 is gonna have to look at what Garrett was doing as well.

FarmerJayhawk said:

approxinfinity said:

He didn't do anything with the stool. Maybe he just had to move the stool out of everyone way so no one trips.

Looked like he backed into it or something and picked it up. Don’t think he intended to do anything with it.

He picked that stool up with some aggression so he may have had bad intentions at first, but I think he realized before he did anything he needed to drop it.

BShark said:

Texas Hawk 10 said:

Possibly Garrett missing time too.

Sure hope not on this one.

I couldn't tell if Garrett did anything wrong, but he was holding down that guy in white pants and black top.

Possibly Garrett missing time too.

McCormack is going to be missing time too.

Silvio is going to sitting a long time after that one.

Baylor is the new #1 team in the nation jumping Gonzaga in the polls. Also, KU has played 5 teams currently ranked in the top 15 (4 of them in the top 10) to a 2-3 record (1-3 against the top 10 teams).

Also, KU got a first place vote in the AP poll somehow as the Jayhawks moved back into the 3rd spot in the polls.

Another note about the top 25 rankings this week, Rutgers is ranked for the first time in 41 years coming in at 24/25 in the polls this week.

@Crimsonorblue22 For all the grief some here give Grimes, those quotes from him in that article sound like the light is coming on for him and that he's realizing that he doesn't have to listen to his dad anymore.

I know some have pointed out he's coming off the bench now, but what those people are ignoring is that Grimes is still playing starter level minutes and is still their leading scorer.

He'll be a 4 year player and by the time he leaves UH, he'll have a good shot at being AAC POY his senior season.

@kjayhawks Even if Mangino stayed, Kale Pick was never going to be the answer at QB. The only thing I can think of is that Mangino was banking on Christian Matthews coming in off his redshirt and taking over.

@HighEliteMajor Here's the thing with Kansas Basketball though, we have Allen Fieldhouse as our home court. It can be the loudest venue in the country when the crowd is into the game. Having a bunch of guys who don't outwardly show emotion can help deaden a crowd and there's been plenty of discussion on this site about AFH being a quieter venue recently. WEF reorganizing the student seating a little bit is part of of it, but another part is having a team of mostly stoic players on the floor. Those types of players don't naturally get the crowd into games the way more outwardly emotional players can.

Teams need a balance of both and Self has probably gone a little too far to the stoic side which is why the debate of players not looking like they care or have fun has popped up in the last few seasons. You need the stoic guys that can outwardly remain calm when a team gets down and can reign in more outwardly emotional players in that situation. You also need those outwardly emotional guys because they can bring out energy needed to make a run and get the crowd into the game in a big moment.

@kjayhawks KU was about 5 plays aways from a bowl game in 2018 as well. Info believe this team really is just a QB away from being a bowl team again. I know some were/are skeptical of Franks because of what happened with Crist and Heaps, but those guys transferred as a result of losing their jobs due to on field performance while Franks lost his job due to injury.

This whole decade of crap QB play goes directly back to Mangino not developing a back up QB for Reesing. Kerry Meier was still the back up the whole time. If Mangino had developed a capable back up to secede Reesing, who knows how the past decade goes because I still believe Gill wasn't given enough time to clean up the program after the end of the Mangino mess, but with a solid QB, he may have gotten the time to filter out the Mangino mess.

@BeddieKU23 I would put an asterisk by that 84 given up to Dayton since that was an OT game. KU only gave up 73 in regulation that game to Dayton.

BeddieKU23 said:

How about the defense though. 8 of the last 10 games holding teams under 60 points.

This team probably wouldn't give up 45 to last years roster

They've only given up 70 once all season (Dayton) and 65-69 points 3 other times times with one of those being against Milwaukee in a near 30 point win. The other 2 were the Duke and Baylor games.

KU is 15th nationally in points allowed per game this season so far.

The 3 point line being moved back has brought scoring down temporarily. It happened last time the NCAA moved it back. Scoring will be back up in a couple of years like was also last time.

I agree the Big 12 is down overall this year. KU and Baylor appear to be a level above anyone else, but the bottom of the league is much worse than usual. We might have 1 team that's not making any post season tournaments, but this year there appears to be 3 that won't be sniffing any of the tournaments this year.

bskeet said:

This is a crazy year. The goal should be simply to get a little better every week. No dominant team.

The tournament is less likely to be driven by major conferences than ever.

The only issue I have with that statement is that the non power conference teams that are highly ranked this year are the usual suspects of recent mid major powers. Gonzaga, Butler, SDSU, Wichita St., and Dayton. Everyone of those teams except for SDSU has at least and E8 appearance in the past decade.

There may not be a dominant team this season, but there's also very little parity either this season. There's not really anyone on the top 25 at the moment that if you saw this poll in any random season that you would look at think how are they ranked.

This is a year where the more things change, the more they stay the same. I'm fully expecting the champ to be a traditional power with all 4 Final Four spots going to traditional powers and I am including Gonzaga among that group at this point.

Austin has some of the worst traffic control ever for postgame events. 🤬🤬🤬

tundrahok said:

@wissox Fran did rag on the Texas players mid second half, called them out for lack of effort. He also called out the crowd for lack of energy.

Yet he still pissed me off several times. I just wonder if fans from other teams get as annoyed with him as we do?

The crowd part was justified, Erwin was maybe 70% full and dead for most of the game. If anyone has ever seen it or been in it, it's basically a giant concrete mausoleum. Moody Center should definitely be a big upgrade for them. A smaller basketball capacity and more modern look is something I'm looking forward to in 3 seasons.

Clock on UT's end went out.

DCHawker said:

Overruled - he is in the circle???

That's what I saw.

Good reversal on that call.

Agbaji's awareness is terrible.

The emergency is by the UT bench, it's an elderly person that just got stretchered out.

Some kind of medical emergency in the stands, going to be a little delay in the game.

Garrett's back on the floor thankfully

Start the 2nd half with Braun just for some energy.